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Planet Found That Defies The Laws Of Physics
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Thursday, 27 August 2009

It's the planet that really shouldn't exist – or at least not for long. It is 10 times the size of Jupiter, orbits its own star in under 24 hours and should soon be spiralling into the surface of its searingly-hot sun.


Under the laws of physics, planet WASP-18b orbiting a star 1,000 light years from Earth is too big and too close to its sun for comfort. The tidal interactions between the two massive objects should be pulling them together in a deadly gravitational embrace.

British astronomers say they have made a highly unusual planetary discovery in finding WASP-18b. Either they just happened to have witnessed an exceptionally rare event that they have likened to winning the lottery, or they do not understand the tidal forces affecting distant planets beyond our own solar system.

"The problem with this planet is that it's very massive and very close to its star. It should be creating tidal bulging that makes it spiral into its star," said Professor Andrew Collier Cameron of St Andrew's University.

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Maybe its not a planet.
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Maybe its not a planet.
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Pretty interesting though, no?
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its a star making a baby.
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its a star making a baby.
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Don't know why, but that sounded so cute. hf
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If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

That's an awe inspiring thought.

Incidentally, the planet doesn't really "defy the laws of physics", I suspect the writer was exaggerating for flavour.

If it instead continues to orbit the star this closely without getting closer and closer, then they say they have to rethink what they know about this particular kind of cosmic event.

But that's a pretty big if, general opinion is that it will continue to spiral closer and closer until it smashes into the star, as predicted by physics a.k.a science.

They calculate it has about 500,000 years before it crashes into its star which is consistent with the size of the planet and its distance from the star.

Nice find though. hf
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If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.

That's an awe inspiring thought.

Incidentally, the planet doesn't really "defy the laws of physics", I suspect the writer was exaggerating for flavour.

If it instead continues to orbit the star this closely without getting closer and closer, then they say they have to rethink what they know about this particular kind of cosmic event.

But that's a pretty big if, general opinion is that it will continue to spiral closer and closer until it smashes into the star, as predicted by physics a.k.a science.

They calculate it has about 500,000 years before it crashes into its star which is consistent with the size of the planet and its distance from the star.

Nice find though. hf
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TY hf
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"Defies The Laws Of Physics"

Translation: "We don't understand it".

These guys are soooo arrogant. Instead on plainly saying "We don't know" they act as if they do understand that object but the fact is that it just doesn't comply with the "laws of physics"!

"We are not ignorant, it's the planet who is not obeying the laws".
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If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.
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Very cool! Its a shame that none of us have a ship that could take us there to see for ourselves.
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I bet it involves particle flows man is not aware of yet.
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If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.


Very cool! Its a shame that none of us have a ship that could take us there to see for ourselves.
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That would be pretty amazing wouldn't it?
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[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Thursday, 27 August 2009

It's the planet that really shouldn't exist – or at least not for long. It is 10 times the size of Jupiter, orbits its own star in under 24 hours and should soon be spiralling into the surface of its searingly-hot sun.


Under the laws of physics, planet WASP-18b orbiting a star 1,000 light years from Earth is too big and too close to its sun for comfort. The tidal interactions between the two massive objects should be pulling them together in a deadly gravitational embrace.

British astronomers say they have made a highly unusual planetary discovery in finding WASP-18b. Either they just happened to have witnessed an exceptionally rare event that they have likened to winning the lottery, or they do not understand the tidal forces affecting distant planets beyond our own solar system.

"The problem with this planet is that it's very massive and very close to its star. It should be creating tidal bulging that makes it spiral into its star," said Professor Andrew Collier Cameron of St Andrew's University.

The planet is at least one billion years old, yet at this rate it should have no more than half a million years left before it crashes into its own star. The chances of finding it at this point in its life cycle is about 1 in 2,000.

Professor Cameron said: "This is another bizarre planet discovery. The situation is analogous to the way tidal friction is gradually causing the Earth's spin to slow down, and the Moon to spiral away from the Earth," he said. "In this case, however, the spin of the star is slower than the orbit of the planet, so the star should be spinning up, and the planet spiralling in," he said.

WASP-18b, one of more than 300 known "exoplanets" orbiting distant stars, was discovered by a team led by Coel Hellier of Keele University, whose study is published in the journal Nature.

It is a hot, Jupiter-like planet where temperatures exceed 2,100C – high enough to create clouds of silica-based gems, according to Professor Cameron. If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth


TXGal, we have our disagreements... But this is an interesting find. awesome!

hf
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Maybe its not a planet.


Pretty interesting though, no?
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Most scientists know no more than a 3-year old in pre-school when it comes to the universe. I imagine that this will change in our lifetimes though...
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We already have confirmed the existence of a planet whose inhabitants defy the laws of common sense!


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[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Thursday, 27 August 2009

It's the planet that really shouldn't exist – or at least not for long. It is 10 times the size of Jupiter, orbits its own star in under 24 hours and should soon be spiralling into the surface of its searingly-hot sun.


Under the laws of physics, planet WASP-18b orbiting a star 1,000 light years from Earth is too big and too close to its sun for comfort. The tidal interactions between the two massive objects should be pulling them together in a deadly gravitational embrace.

British astronomers say they have made a highly unusual planetary discovery in finding WASP-18b. Either they just happened to have witnessed an exceptionally rare event that they have likened to winning the lottery, or they do not understand the tidal forces affecting distant planets beyond our own solar system.

"The problem with this planet is that it's very massive and very close to its star. It should be creating tidal bulging that makes it spiral into its star," said Professor Andrew Collier Cameron of St Andrew's University.

The planet is at least one billion years old, yet at this rate it should have no more than half a million years left before it crashes into its own star. The chances of finding it at this point in its life cycle is about 1 in 2,000.

Professor Cameron said: "This is another bizarre planet discovery. The situation is analogous to the way tidal friction is gradually causing the Earth's spin to slow down, and the Moon to spiral away from the Earth," he said. "In this case, however, the spin of the star is slower than the orbit of the planet, so the star should be spinning up, and the planet spiralling in," he said.

WASP-18b, one of more than 300 known "exoplanets" orbiting distant stars, was discovered by a team led by Coel Hellier of Keele University, whose study is published in the journal Nature.

It is a hot, Jupiter-like planet where temperatures exceed 2,100C – high enough to create clouds of silica-based gems, according to Professor Cameron. If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.


TXGal, we have our disagreements... But this is an interesting find. awesome!

hf
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U bet! YW hf
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We already have confirmed the existence of a planet whose inhabitants defy the laws of common sense!


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:) :peace:
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We already have confirmed the existence of a planet whose inhabitants defy the laws of common sense!


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lol
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Man does not yet understand the laws of physics. He still thinks opposites attract in sciences and social studies. Big misunderstanding.
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We already have confirmed the existence of a planet whose inhabitants defy the laws of common sense!


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"Defies The Laws Of Physics"

Translation: "We don't understand it".

These guys are soooo arrogant. Instead on plainly saying "We don't know" they act as if they do understand that object but the fact is that it just doesn't comply with the "laws of physics"!

"We are not ignorant, it's the planet who is not obeying the laws".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758431



Very true -- but the arrogance you describe is not among the astronomers who made this discovery.

Among scientists, "We don't understand it yet" is a perfectly valid statement.

It is among the stubbornly, proudly, anti-science that you find statements like "I don't understand it, and therefor it isn't so."
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[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Thursday, 27 August 2009

It's the planet that really shouldn't exist – or at least not for long. It is 10 times the size of Jupiter, orbits its own star in under 24 hours and should soon be spiralling into the surface of its searingly-hot sun.


Under the laws of physics, planet WASP-18b orbiting a star 1,000 light years from Earth is too big and too close to its sun for comfort. The tidal interactions between the two massive objects should be pulling them together in a deadly gravitational embrace.

British astronomers say they have made a highly unusual planetary discovery in finding WASP-18b. Either they just happened to have witnessed an exceptionally rare event that they have likened to winning the lottery, or they do not understand the tidal forces affecting distant planets beyond our own solar system.

"The problem with this planet is that it's very massive and very close to its star. It should be creating tidal bulging that makes it spiral into its star," said Professor Andrew Collier Cameron of St Andrew's University.

The planet is at least one billion years old, yet at this rate it should have no more than half a million years left before it crashes into its own star. The chances of finding it at this point in its life cycle is about 1 in 2,000.

Professor Cameron said: "This is another bizarre planet discovery. The situation is analogous to the way tidal friction is gradually causing the Earth's spin to slow down, and the Moon to spiral away from the Earth," he said. "In this case, however, the spin of the star is slower than the orbit of the planet, so the star should be spinning up, and the planet spiralling in," he said.

WASP-18b, one of more than 300 known "exoplanets" orbiting distant stars, was discovered by a team led by Coel Hellier of Keele University, whose study is published in the journal Nature.

It is a hot, Jupiter-like planet where temperatures exceed 2,100C – high enough to create clouds of silica-based gems, according to Professor Cameron. If anyone could visit this planet, and survive, they might see a sky full of diamonds and sapphires, he said.
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

Thats where hell is located i hear
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"Defies The Laws Of Physics"

Translation: "We don't understand it".

These guys are soooo arrogant. Instead on plainly saying "We don't know" they act as if they do understand that object but the fact is that it just doesn't comply with the "laws of physics"!

"We are not ignorant, it's the planet who is not obeying the laws".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758431


Why did you put quote marks around YOUR words?

Why did you not realise that it was the NEWSPAPER that used term "defies the laws of physics"?

Why did you not actually read the scientists comments where he simply pointed out, rightly, that according to the current observations the planet should be spiralling inwards.

Perhaps it is. Perhaps we need to make further oibservations or refine any assumptions. Perhaps the paper misquoted.

Perhaps you hate science and scientists.

Yet you use a computer. Did you make it yourself out of wood?
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"Defies The Laws Of Physics"

Translation: "We don't understand it".

These guys are soooo arrogant. Instead on plainly saying "We don't know" they act as if they do understand that object but the fact is that it just doesn't comply with the "laws of physics"!

"We are not ignorant, it's the planet who is not obeying the laws".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758431


Thanks for being the one to say that.

Studying light(photon/particle waves), gravity, and time, I frequently wonder if "the laws of physics" only apply to our planet. How gravity, space, and time are being affected on this distant star and planet could be oddly different than our own.

I mean, cmon, have ya'll heard about that experiment where two watches are syncronized, then watch one gets into a super-sonic jet, flys around the world, gets back to watch two, and watch one is a second behind!! They say if you travled fast enough in a jet in space, flying away at insane speeds, then returning to Earth after a year, that decades will have passed on Earth! Thats proof we don't understand the "laws of physics". Based on that I think different masses and different velocities, and rotations on other planets might affect everything we think we know. I think quantum physics is the answer.

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