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JESUS commands you to KILL -- Its how THE CRUSADES started -- How Christians were versed to OBEY their Roman KING, JESUS!
Then Pope Urban II with Byzantine Emperor Alexius I (Roman PAGAN Empire) brainwashed The Christians after their PAGAN Roman predecessors carefully composed the New Testament and made sure to add verses that would cause strife, murder, confusion, and adultery. My focus will be on 'Murder'


VATICAN-JESUS said he was bringing a sword.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."


The Roman PAGANS didn't lie, they gave this sword and told The Christians it was the sword of JESUS their KING and to wield it in the blood of his enemies just like JESUS commanded and The Christians obeyed!

Luke 19:27 "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me."


His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf
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And they are STILL Obeying, not only by joining the military, but supporting CORP US of As games in the middle east. Nearly 10 million Iraqis and Afghanis have died as a direct result of American presence in those countries, this is the number above "normal" deaths, and this is genocide and it's OK with most Christians and most Americans in fact. Killing for God, the biggest game ever played. Jesus returned in 1954 and has been telling people to get their PENS, not their guns, into action. Hasn't worked. the message was squelched.
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Then Pope Urban II with Byzantine Emperor Alexius I (Roman PAGAN Empire) brainwashed The Christians after their PAGAN Roman predecessors carefully composed the New Testament and made sure to add verses that would cause strife, murder, confusion, and adultery. My focus will be on 'Murder'


VATICAN-JESUS said he was bringing a sword.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."


The Roman PAGANS didn't lie, they gave this sword and told The Christians it was the sword of JESUS their KING and to wield it in the blood of his enemies just like JESUS commanded and The Christians obeyed!

Luke 19:27 "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me."


His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf
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your kidding right?
You should be heard
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"Jesus returned in 1954"


Get out of here!

Can you prove this?
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your kidding right?
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Its in the Bible, check the verses in the Op if they correspond with your Bible!

hf
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your kidding right?

Its in the Bible, check the verses in the Op if they correspond with your Bible!

hf
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The sword Jesus speaks of is the words of scripture causing strife between the saved and the lost. There is also a division when the spirit of a man, redeemed by grace, works to bring his thoughts and understandings to obedience. Unbelievers always attack those who seek holiness through Christ..usually by temptation and deceit

The verse in Luke is set in a parable-for our Lord spoke in parables. It refers to judgement day-the king in the parable is GOD. Don't worry about the instant death by sword pictured in this parable..if you haven't been spiritually transformed, you will be destroyed with the brightness of His coming.

Quit kicking at cactus
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The verse in Luke is set in a parable-for our Lord spoke in parables. It refers to judgement day-the king in the parable is GOD. Don't worry about the instant death by sword pictured in this parable..if you haven't been spiritually transformed, you will be destroyed with the brightness of His coming.
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You can twist and contort all your PAGAN scriptures to fit squarely in your mind. But it won't change the meaning of the parable nor that JESUS commands those who worship him to kill and its precisely these verses the Pope and the Emperor used to persuade Christians to Crusade.

The parable is about a nobleman who leaves his servants to trade for him while he's gone. On his return one servant was afraid to lose what was given to him by the nobleman and stores the money away and produced ZERO profit, the nobleman expresses delusional and a psychotic display of grandeur by incriminating himself with the following:

22 -- He said to him, 'With your own words I shall condemn you, you wicked servant. You knew I was a demanding person, taking up what I did not lay down and harvesting what I did not plant;



The nobleman is profiteer, he then shows that he is also a thief which coincidentally JESUS said he was coming like a thief in the night, damn those PAGAN Romans, they sure could write a tall tale:

26 -- 'I tell you, to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away.



He continues with his anger with an emotional outcry for blood-lust:

27 -- Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me.'"



Time for a confessional like all good Christians after the sins and heads for Jerusalem:

28 -- After he had said this, he proceeded on his journey up to Jerusalem.


hf

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The Knights templar were kicked out of Europe for devil worship
(they regrouped and became the modern masons)


and if you knew history op you would know the knights templar looted and raped many christians in the crusades



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OP, instead of veinlets on your willy you should study history as because your drivel is like that of a stupid pimp.
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But if you divide the Bible into thirds it's only .333333333333333333....YOU ARE BEING ROBBED OF PART OF YOUR BIBLE. YOU STUPID FUCKWIT NUMBNUTS.
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The sword Jesus speaks of is the words of scripture causing strife between the saved and the lost. There is also a division when the spirit of a man, redeemed by grace, works to bring his thoughts and understandings to obedience. Unbelievers always attack those who seek holiness through Christ..usually by temptation and deceit

The verse in Luke is set in a parable-for our Lord spoke in parables. It refers to judgement day-the king in the parable is GOD. Don't worry about the instant death by sword pictured in this parable..if you haven't been spiritually transformed, you will be destroyed with the brightness of His coming.

Quit kicking at cactus
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That's not how it was interpreted by Emperor Constantine and the Kings and Popes who followed him and forced conversion to Christianity by the sword.
Those words were never said by any holy man. It's noble of you to try and put the best face on it, much better than using it as an excuse to wipe out any who refuse to believe in Christianity. Christians have come a long way. But those words, that would never be uttered by any truly holy man, were obviously inserted into the Bible by the compilers of the Bible and the founders of the Christian religion, for the express purpose of giving good reason to kill the unbelievers. You have been deceived by the Romans.
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That's not how it was interpreted by Emperor Constantine and the Kings and Popes who followed him and forced conversion to Christianity by the sword.
Those words were never said by any holy man. It's noble of you to try and put the best face on it, much better than using it as an excuse to wipe out any who refuse to believe in Christianity. Christians have come a long way. But those words, that would never be uttered by any truly holy man, were obviously inserted into the Bible by the compilers of the Bible and the founders of the Christian religion, for the express purpose of giving good reason to kill the unbelievers. You have been deceived by the Romans.
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hf

hf
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that is pope own words not jesus own words
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did I spell absurd correctly?
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Hebrews 4:12 (New King James Version)
"12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! "
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Then Pope Urban II with Byzantine Emperor Alexius I (Roman PAGAN Empire) brainwashed The Christians after their PAGAN Roman predecessors carefully composed the New Testament and made sure to add verses that would cause strife, murder, confusion, and adultery. My focus will be on 'Murder'


VATICAN-JESUS said he was bringing a sword.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."


The Roman PAGANS didn't lie, they gave this sword and told The Christians it was the sword of JESUS their KING and to wield it in the blood of his enemies just like JESUS commanded and The Christians obeyed!

Luke 19:27 "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me."


His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf
 Quoting: PR 758416


op

where in that verse does Jesus command any one to kill? he does not.

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

here is jut one verse that explains what that 'sword' is.

Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. (His word.)
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No peace on earth? Why wouldn't Jesus want peace on earth?
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Where in The Bible was Yeshua ever ( self ) declared a Roman or a Roman King? Nowhere!

1). The Sword represents Truth. And Truth always divides.
The chaff from the grain. The Truth from the lies.

2). You know how to Copy and Paste, but you know or understand little about Roman History and The History of The Roman Catholic Church which was an amalgamation of pagan and cult religions combined to try and incorporate these nature worshippers into The Church. The Roman Catholic Church has always been a Political Institution.

3). These pages you have quoted have brainwashed your mind.

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Then Pope Urban II with Byzantine Emperor Alexius I (Roman PAGAN Empire) brainwashed The Christians after their PAGAN Roman predecessors carefully composed the New Testament and made sure to add verses that would cause strife, murder, confusion, and adultery. My focus will be on 'Murder'


VATICAN-JESUS said he was bringing a sword.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."


The Roman PAGANS didn't lie, they gave this sword and told The Christians it was the sword of JESUS their KING and to wield it in the blood of his enemies just like JESUS commanded and The Christians obeyed!

Luke 19:27 "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me."


His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf
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No peace on earth? Why wouldn't Jesus want peace on earth?
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because satan live on earth
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Where in The Bible was Yeshua ever ( self ) declared a Roman or a Roman King? Nowhere!
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The Romans created the faith of Christians by commanding what they should read and the Christian sheep obey the slave-drivers of their souls. This makes the Roman version of Jesus a Roman by any other name.

hf
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Political bullshit is political bullshit.

Anybody who follows Jesus is liable to enjoy His FATE:
hated DISSIDENT in an atmosphere where Complicity is PRIME!


Ya know?
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Rome is about to pounce, she has her enemies ‘corralled” in the United States and Israel. It was not a slip of the tongue that George Bush uttered when he called the war in the Iraq a ‘Crusade’ –

"This crusade," he said, "this war on terrorism."


In every case the crusades were the signal for a massacre of the Jews - the enemies of the Papacy because they were/are the keepers of God’s Old Testament truth



Pope Urban II mounted the first campaign of the Crusade: “Let those who were formally brigands now become soldiers of Christ;”

To sweeten the pie, the Pope promised those that signed up that there would be plenty of booty, not to mention the spiritual benefit of having all your sins forgiven by God. www.eveninglight.org.nz/thecrusades&themuslims.html



Christ alone is the one true Mediator between sinful man and God !!

For there is one God, and one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1 Timothy 2:5

MEN ARE SAVED BY THE HOLY NAME OF GOD ALONE, NOT THE COUNTERFEIT 'HOLINESS' OF THE PAPACY

Will you heed the deception of a counterfeit order of priests who reject the command to call no man father, arrogantly presume to forgive sins and delight in deceiving the populace so that they may undertake their campaign for world religious and civil dominance? Will you rest on error or truth?

Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, Jeremiah 48:10

You’ve heard about the New World Order, most people think it is a global government. In fact, the New World Order is an order of priests – priests of ‘sacred’ commerce, all secret society members, who treat religion as a ‘business’ and have been marvelously successful at it – the Vatican splendor speaks for itself – but the Lord is about to silence that ‘great voice’

Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the GREAT VOICE; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered: Jeremiah 51
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The crusaders and inquisition killed on the authority of the pope, not Jesus or the Bible. They called real Christians witches.


Catholic Inquisition and The Torture Tools
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The severity of torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition, until the Reformation, can now be revealed from the pages of history. From the beginning of the Papacy, until the present time, it is estimated by credible historians that more than 50,000,000, men and women have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy charged against them by Papal Rome. This Video contains actual photographs of some of the instruments of torture that were used.

From John Dowling’s The History of Romanism Book 8 Ch. 1, p 542-543, “From the birth of Popery in 600, to the present time, it is estimated by careful and credible historians, that more than fifty million of the human family, have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy by popish persecutors, an average of more than forty thousand religious murders for every year of the existence of Popery.” The main credible historians on the Inquisition, besides Dowling himself are Lea, Vancandard, Maycock, Coulton, Turberville and Scott’s Church History. The torture chambers of the Inquisition lasted 605 years and were found throughout the nations controlled by Rome. They had their beginning under Pope Innocent III in 1203 until the Inquisition's final dissolution in Spain and Portugal in 1808. The DVD documents as well twentieth century atrocities of the Vatican working with Roman Catholic dictators such as Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler; Francisco Franco in Spain, and Antonio Salazar in Portugal. The most brutal and bloodthirsty of all was Anton Pavelic in Croatia four-year reign of terror.
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After WW 2 South America

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God is a gentle loving Spirit however if you push Me i am going to push back and if you abuse me sell me to play a prophet that profits and back me into a corner I am going to come out swinging. Once i am free of it my gentle loving nature is once again my center my Heart my love. That is the simple Truth of Me.
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The crusaders and inquisition killed on the authority of the pope, not Jesus or the Bible. They called real Christians witches.

The severity of torture and murder that took place under Papal authority during the 605 years of the Inquisition, until the Reformation, can now be revealed from the pages of history. From the beginning of the Papacy, until the present time, it is estimated by credible historians that more than 50,000,000, men and women have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy charged against them by Papal Rome. This Video contains actual photographs of some of the instruments of torture that were used.

From John Dowling’s The History of Romanism Book 8 Ch. 1, p 542-543, “From the birth of Popery in 600, to the present time, it is estimated by careful and credible historians, that more than fifty million of the human family, have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy by popish persecutors, an average of more than forty thousand religious murders for every year of the existence of Popery.” The main credible historians on the Inquisition, besides Dowling himself are Lea, Vancandard, Maycock, Coulton, Turberville and Scott’s Church History. The torture chambers of the Inquisition lasted 605 years and were found throughout the nations controlled by Rome. They had their beginning under Pope Innocent III in 1203 until the Inquisition's final dissolution in Spain and Portugal in 1808. The DVD documents as well twentieth century atrocities of the Vatican working with Roman Catholic dictators such as Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler; Francisco Franco in Spain, and Antonio Salazar in Portugal. The most brutal and bloodthirsty of all was Anton Pavelic in Croatia four-year reign of terror.
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Did the Popes and the Kings they controlled think they were doing the will of Christ? Or did they know their whole religion was a fraud and simply enjoyed doing evil for the sake of evil?
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Then Pope Urban II with Byzantine Emperor Alexius I (Roman PAGAN Empire) brainwashed The Christians after their PAGAN Roman predecessors carefully composed the New Testament and made sure to add verses that would cause strife, murder, confusion, and adultery. My focus will be on 'Murder'


VATICAN-JESUS said he was bringing a sword.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."


The Roman PAGANS didn't lie, they gave this sword and told The Christians it was the sword of JESUS their KING and to wield it in the blood of his enemies just like JESUS commanded and The Christians obeyed!

Luke 19:27 "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me."


His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf
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You are one ignorant twit.
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His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf

You are one ignorant twit.
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Good point. The Father also said commanded his followers to kill, even more often than did the Son.
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Then Pope Urban II with Byzantine Emperor Alexius I (Roman PAGAN Empire) brainwashed The Christians after their PAGAN Roman predecessors carefully composed the New Testament and made sure to add verses that would cause strife, murder, confusion, and adultery. My focus will be on 'Murder'


VATICAN-JESUS said he was bringing a sword.

Matthew 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword."


The Roman PAGANS didn't lie, they gave this sword and told The Christians it was the sword of JESUS their KING and to wield it in the blood of his enemies just like JESUS commanded and The Christians obeyed!

Luke 19:27 "Now as for those enemies of mine who did not want me as their king, bring them here and slay them before me."


His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf
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eh.... if i recall... it was men, that claimed they had the ear of God, that was telling other men things like,"Kill a muslim and past sins are forgiven..or you go to heaven" or something like that. ;)
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Did the Popes and the Kings they controlled think they were doing the will of Christ? Or did they know their whole religion was a fraud and simply enjoyed doing evil for the sake of evil?
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hf

His Father says "Thou Shall Not Kill" <<-- 6th Commandment, 6th, as in the sixth day when GOD created man, ADAM.

The Father or The Son, you decide!!! hf

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You are one ignorant twit.

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Good point. The Father also said commanded his followers to kill, even more often than did the Son.
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lol
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Moslem propaganda just because Momadhead demands people to be killed.

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