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Swine/Bird flu Natural Cure

 
Anonymous Coward
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This is my personal protocol & my alternative to
There deadly vaccines.
Please copy it might just save your life.
 Quoting: "The One Bee"


Thanks for posting.

Don't you want to add GARLIC to your list?

I am.

Would you consider Mullein which is specific for asthma, allergy and the related congestion?
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H1N1 Swine flu cure by Ayurveda and Homeopathy

[link to www.fightbackh1n1.com]
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Thanks a lot OP, this can be helpful.

Does anymone here know about oils ?

Which one is good in case of cytokine storm ?
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So basically, if you are poor you are screwed? Who can afford all this? All i can do if i get it is get half an hour of sunlight a day (free), and eat lots of garlic and oranges (relatively cheap). Anyone know anything else for those of us who live pay to pay and can't stock up on supplements?
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Go to this website and pull up these products from their search bar: www.vitacost.co
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If you want to survive the cytokine storm then read this,


Treatment

[edit] OX40 IG

A 2003 report in the Journal of Experimental Medicine published by researchers at Imperial College London demonstrates[10] the possibility of preventing a cytokine storm by inhibiting or disabling T-cell response. A few days after T cells are activated, they produce a biologic molecule called OX40, a "survival signal" that keeps activated T-cells working at the site of inflammation during infection with influenza or other pathogens. OX40 binds to receptors on T-cells, preventing them from dying and subsequently increasing cytokine production. A combined protein, OX40-immunoglobulin (OX40-Ig), a human-made fusion protein, prevents OX40 from reaching the T-cell receptors, thus reducing the T-cell response. Experiments in mice have demonstrated that OX40-Ig can reduce the symptoms associated with an immune overreaction while allowing the immune system to fight off the virus successfully. By blocking the OX40 receptor on T-cells, researchers were able to prevent the development of the most serious flu symptoms in these experimental mice[10] and reported the results in New Scientist.[11] The drug, to be made by a company called Xenova Research (Xenova Research was purchased by Celtic Pharma, a private equity firm, in September 2005), was supposed to be in phase I clinical trial in 2004, but its status is currently unknown.[12]

[edit] ACE inhibitors and Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers

The Renin Angiotensin system (RAS) has been implicated in the mediation of the cytokine storm,[13] suggesting a potential benefit for Angiotensin Converting Enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and Angiotensin II Receptor Blockers (ARBs), and ACE has been implicated in inflammatory lung pathologies.[14] Shigehara et al. published research confirming that serum angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) is a useful marker for disease activity in cytokine-mediated inflammatory lung disease.[15] Marshall and co-workers also found that angiotensin II was associated with cytokine-mediated lung injury[16] and suggested a role for ACE inhibitors.

Wang and co-workers published data that cytokine-mediated pulmonary damage (apoptosis of lung epithelial cells) in response to the pro-inflammatory cytokine TNF-alpha (implicated in the cytokine storm) requires the presence of angiotensin II, suggesting that ARBs might have clinical utility in this setting.[17]

Das published a review of ACE inhibitor and angiotensin-II receptor blocker use in a number of cytokine-mediated inflammatory pathologies and suggested that ACE inhibitors and Angiotensin receptor blockers have theoretical benefit in downregulation of the cytokine storm.[18]

[edit] Corticosteroids

Although frequently employed to treat patients experiencing the cytokine storm associated with ARDS, corticosteroids and NSAIDs have been evaluated in clinical trials and have shown no effect on lung mechanics, gas exchange or beneficial outcome in early established ARDS.[2]

[edit] Free radical scavengers

Preliminary data from clinical trials involving patients with sepsis-induced ARDS have shown a reduction in organ damage and a trend toward improvement in survival (survival in ARDS is approximately 60%) after administering or upregulating a variety of free radical scavengers (antioxidants).[2]

[edit] TNF-alpha blockers

Some types of arthritis medications are designed to reduce inflammation by inhibiting the tumor necrosis factor-alpha pathway to immune cell activation; these drugs are known as TNF-alpha blockers. One study[19] found that three different TNF-alpha blockers afforded a slight reduction in antibody presentation after vaccination against influenza in a group of immunocompromised patients, however it did not significantly affect patients' protective factor gained from inoculation. More research is necessary before any conclusions may be made regarding the efficacy of TNF-alpha blockers at reducing the effects of a cytokine storm in hospitalized flu patients.

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Thank you, Great list there OP! :)
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Or just take a vaccine that scientists with actual PHDs created. Or listen to some quack on an internet forum for your health concerns lol. The choice seems simple enough.
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Take vaccine on ur dum s226
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Thanks a lot OP, this can be helpful.

Does anymone here know about oils ?

Which one is good in case of cytokine storm ?
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Cytokine storms associated with sepsis and ARDS have been treated by forcing progression of the inflammatory process into its recovery phase. Some of the most effective approaches use recognizable anti-inflammatory compounds: aspirin, omega-3 fatty acids (fish oil) and curcumin (turmeric).

Aspirin may block cytokine storms by altering COX-2 to produce anti-inflammatory eicosanoids and lipoxins. Aspirin also blocks the major inflammatory transcription factor, NFkB. Of course, the administration of aspirin to children with viral diseases, is counter-indicated, because of the risk of Reye syndrome. The omega-3 fatty acid EPA is converted by COX-2 into an anti-inflammatory prostaglandin. Curcumin is one of the most potent inhibitors of NFkB. This trio of anti-inflammatory natural compounds may ultimately be major players in blocking the killing capacity of swine flu.

references:

Singer P, Shapiro H. Enteral omega-3 in acute respiratory distress syndrome. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2009 Mar;12(2):123-8.

Siddiqui AM, Cui X, Wu R, Dong W, Zhou M, Hu M, Simms HH, Wang P. The anti-inflammatory effect of curcumin in an experimental model of sepsis is mediated by up-regulation of peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma. Crit Care Med. 2006 Jul;34(7):1874-82.
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Been using it since 1989

If proactive I do not get sick.

If I get sneezed on by students, happens more than you might think, and I have not been proactive, I get symptoms.

Then get right home and take silver, flu or cold is very mild and gone in a day or two.
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I hear circling an egg from a free range chicken around your head three times and sleeping with a stone under your pillow is pretty effective too.
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NO< NO< NO And NO

THIS PRODUCT FROM PEPPER PULLS INTO THE BODY ANY MEDICATION THE PERSON IS TAKING . . . It HAS A BACKFIRE EFFECT.

DO NOT TAKE IF YOU ARE ON ANY,I MEAN ANY DRUGS.

THE MAKER of Bioperine states that also.

1. Bioperine® : A 20 mg dose of Bioperine® can increase curcumin’s bioavailability twentyfold . Take 30 min before the Turmeric 95% CURCUMIN.
Dr. Benway
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Sunlight

Start moderately dosing yourself now while the weather is nice.

Also check out the ancient mystical practice of "sun gazing" within one hour after sunrise or before sunset.
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So, how do we tell Chinese Star Anise from the Japanese variety?

Can you tell by looking?

I get all mine from the Asian Market and it says it's Chinese.

But! We all know labels can lie.

How do you tell?
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Bookmarked! Thanks, OP. hf
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Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html
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"Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato
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"Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy
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Elderberry juice (Sambucal) - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. This substance is very effective against the common flu but may not be desirable for the H5N1 virus. Increases in these cytokines may trigger a lethal cytokine storm.



Crap. Your body needs cytokines in order for the immune system to function. Increasing these does not equate to a cytokine storm.

Furthermore, a clinical trial has shown Sambucol (correct spelling) to work against some strains of Avian Flu, with no evidence of a cytokine storm.

Preventing the virus from replicating and infecting cells as soon as possible is what you need, and Sambucol does this. And by doing so, the risk of a cytokine storm is drastically reduced.

Hence it has been reported that Sambucol halves the the time of infection, even stopping flu in two days flat in some cases.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759418

Depends on the individual immune system.

Some folks are immunodeficient and, yes, they may benefit from cytokene supplementation. Many others have immune dysfunctions that might make a patient safer to avoid such things. Lupus, Crohn's disease, rheumatoid arthritis, and the like - folks with these most definitely DO NOT need any ingested cytokenes in their system. These people benefit more from mild immunosuppressants, especially during an attack of the flu - their own immune system attacks the disease, but also attacks their own body.

Unfortunately, there is no one bit of advice anyone can give that, blanket style, will be good advice for everyone. If you get the flu - rest, hydrate and maybe take some multivitamins (avoid fever reducers or cold medicines that mask symptoms and make you think you can go back out into the world prematurely - virii don't reproduce well or at all above 102 degrees body temp)... but that might not work for everyone either.

Not nice to call other folks theory "crap", we might not know it all ourselves.
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So basically, if you are poor you are screwed? Who can afford all this? All i can do if i get it is get half an hour of sunlight a day (free), and eat lots of garlic and oranges (relatively cheap). Anyone know anything else for those of us who live pay to pay and can't stock up on supplements?


Go to this website and pull up these products from their search bar: www.vitacost.co
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 748723


I'm back again, :), been researching enzymes nad probiotics for my dogs health issues. I cam across something I wanted to share, and get your feedback on this product, so far as a risk for increasing cytokine production ...

The product is called Symbiotics Family Defense™,
Proline-Rich Polypeptides Immulox from ®Bovine Colostrum.
[link to www.vitacost.com]

Under PRODUCT DETAIL,
Description
"Family Defense™ immune health spray. Helps your body fight back.
A healthy marathon runner puts terrific stress on her immune system simply because of the physical exertion of the long run. The PRPs in Family Defense™ enhance immune activity to promote cytokine production. This immune blancing action is important for marathon runners and for your family.

Your healthy immune system employs a complex range of actions to keep you healthy. However, even a healthy immune system reacts to everyday environmental factors by producing cytokines. The PRP's in Family Defense™ signal your body to balance cytokine production in order to maintain a normal level of immune activity. Maintaining a balanced immune system is really important to keep your family healthy.*"

It reads to me it PRODUCES ctokines, which sounds like what we DON'T want. Then it procedes to say the PRP's in this product signal the body to BALANCE cytokine production, which sounds good to me.

Any Colustrum users here?? What do you all think, does this sound healthy in the case of prevention of these flus??
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bumpand plenty of rest and pure water. also sweating will help clean the blood faster
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bumpand plenty of rest and pure water. also sweating will help clean the blood faster
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bumpbumpbumpbump
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Thanks a lot OP, this can be helpful.

Does anymone here know about oils ?

Which one is good in case of cytokine storm ?
 Quoting: Be aware

"Aromatherapy Workbook" by Marcel Lavabre.
two things in this book(get the book): for a low immune system, lemon and tea tree oil. applied through bath, diffuser, and massage.for infectious diseases: Bay, cajeput, cinnamon bark, cinnamon leaf, citronella, clove buds, Eucalyptus australiana, E. citriodora, geranium,lavander, lavandin, lemon, lemon grass, and even several more. apply bath, compress, diffuser, massage, friction.
so adding these foods to your diets as well in tea, salads, juices,what ever- just eat them.
the book will answer all your questions.
hope this helps
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bumpand plenty of rest and pure water. also sweating will help clean the blood faster

bumpbumpbumpbump
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SWEATING IS A NO-COST WAY TO GOOD HEALTH AND LONGEVITY!

EVERYONE SWEAT!
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thc kills flu
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thc kills flu
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RIGHT ON! SOME THC FOOD PRODUCTS ARE OVER 75%.
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Viruses are in your body all year round......people get symptoms mostly in the winter and early spring......most people become deficient in the hormone D3 from lack of sunshine by that time as well.....D3 strengthens and regulates the immune system, among other things. [link to www.medicalnewstoday.com]
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So basically, if you are poor you are screwed? Who can afford all this? All i can do if i get it is get half an hour of sunlight a day (free), and eat lots of garlic and oranges (relatively cheap). Anyone know anything else for those of us who live pay to pay and can't stock up on supplements?
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---479, as some one else pointed out already, Oregano Oil is the poor peoples antidote against viral diseases. I use gel capsules, take them apart and add 5 drops of Oregano Oil, close-up and swallow with water, if it becomes critical I take it twice a day. I have enough available to last for months. Simple and relatively cheap. One can function normally without becoming paranoid.
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So basically, if you are poor you are screwed? Who can afford all this? All i can do if i get it is get half an hour of sunlight a day (free), and eat lots of garlic and oranges (relatively cheap). Anyone know anything else for those of us who live pay to pay and can't stock up on supplements?


Go to this website and pull up these products from their search bar: www.vitacost.co
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you can sweat. it is a total non-cost way to good health
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you forgot smoking tobacco
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Actually, the only commonality among the survivors of the 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak/pandemic was they were all Cigar smokers.






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I hear circling an egg from a free range chicken around your head three times and sleeping with a stone under your pillow is pretty effective too.
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What kind of an egg? Vanilla or chocolate? Single or double yoke? Oh, and what type of stone?
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health nuts are always the first to go

i sat y get the shot or the flu and be donwe with it and let the coward silver face herb eating wimps worry about their pathetic lives

not many sports types on this site - thats for sure.
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This is my personal protocol & my alternative to
There deadly vaccines.
Please copy it might just save your life.


Thanks for posting.

Don't you want to add GARLIC to your list?

I am.

Would you consider Mullein which is specific for asthma, allergy and the related congestion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758224

if you eat the raw galic cloves you need un cooed olive oil too so as to prevent it from burning your throat and stomach . .put them on baked potaotes . i eat 2 tablespoon of olive oil and 6 whole raw peeled garlic cloves with my baked potatoe .or plate of veggies..l onion also open bronchial tubes for better breathing , just put thick slices on sammich with meat and tiny real hellmans mayo . breathing improves bout 20 min or so . when breathing get bad make another food or samich to eat a big whole slice of onions on .
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Swine/Bird flu Natural Cure
Don't take the deadly shot



The Swine/Bird flu causes death among the strongest and most healthy individuals by causing a cytokine storm in the person's normal immune system to overreact and flood
the lungs with fluid. The current H1N1 outbreak has had a very low mortality rate, in large part because it doesn't trigger this cytokine storm and also, is a close relative of an older flu strain for which many older individuals already have partial immunity. But if this comes back in the fall, with a deadly mutation ,or from deadly shots it will cause this cytokine storm. that produces these different receptors TNF-a, IL-6, IL-1, IL-8, neuraminidase, & others. The first part of the below protocol will prevent you from getting the swine/bird flu. The second part will inhibit the above receptors that swine/ bird flu need to cause a cytokine storm in the body. If you do get the cytokine storm the Turmeric 95% CURCUMIN combined with the Bioperine® will stop the deadly cytokine storm.

The best medications to have in kit:
(These are adult doses, modify by body weight for children.)
To Prevent the flu:

1. Colloidal Silver: 30ppm silver ,will help kill the flu dead in it's tracks taken oraly, & nebulised thru the nose & mouth into the lungs 3 times a day.

2. Vitamin C w/Rose Hips: 1000 mg taken with each meal 3 times a day. and increase slowly to 2000-4000 mg per meal. Your optimal dose is just below the point where your body complains by giving you mild diarrhea. This is called
the "bowel tolerance dose." Such doses are perfectly safe. Be sure to take vitamin C with food that will coat your stomach to prevent stomach upset.

3. Vitamin D : adults can simply take 4,000 units a day, or less when you go into the sun. Children over 50 pounds need up to 2,000 units a day. Under 50 pounds, about 1,000 units a day. There is no way to know for sure how much you need without a blood test, called a 25-hydroxy-vitamin D. That test should be conducted in the late winter, when your levels are the lowest, and at the beginning of fall, when your levels are the highest.
If You Come Down With The Flu :

1. Bioperine® : A 20 mg dose of Bioperine® can increase curcumin’s bioavailability twentyfold . Take 30 min before the Turmeric 95% CURCUMIN.

2.Turmeric 95% CURCUMIN: 900mg: to stop a "cytokine storm" immune system overreaction if you become infected. Take 4 900mg tabs a day.

3. Scuttellaria (Skullcap):Antiviral. A herb used as a tea. It has no side effects and is also a mild tranquilizer. Research suggests neuraminidase, which is a substance needed by the H5N1 virus to reproduce, may be inhibited.

4.Green Tea :(possible Tamiflu/Relenza alternative)- Very effective antiviral. Also decreases the production of the cytokine (catechins) TNF-a. Inhibits neuraminidase. May have antiviral activity that is equal to other antivirals such as Tamiflu.

5.Resveratrol : In addition to inhibiting neuraminidase, resveratrol also sends a message to cells to stop manufacturing viruses.

6. Cat’s Claw (Enzymatic Therapy Saventaro): The Only Cat's Claw That's: - 100% Contaminant-free (no TOA's) - 200% More Potent than Cat's claw products derived from the bark - Guaranteed to benefit both the natural and
acquired immune systems Decreases the production of the cytokine TNF-a. Also boosts immune system. The number of white blood cells was significantly increased
during treatment. No toxicity was noted.

7. Vitamin E : Immune booster. Also decreases the production of the cytokine TNF-a. Very suitable for immune compromised people, especially the elderly. Effects enhanced when taken with Vitamin C.

8.St Johns Wort (Hypericum): - Very effective antiviral. Also decreases the production of the cytokine IL-6. Hypericum is an extract from St John’s Wort. There have been some very successful field trials in
commercial flocks infected with H5N1 in Vietnam.

9.Zinc (L-OptiZinc 30 mg of Zinc): , a zinc-methionine complex ,Zinc has been shown to have direct activity against a range of viruses. Zinc is a mild to
moderate inhibitor of neuraminidase. Zinc ions have been shown to have a slight inhibitory action on all strains of neuraminidase tested Zinc reduces TNF, IL-1 and IL-8 production Zinc can also turn down TNF, ICAM and
other cytokines involved in over reaction to H5N1 and other viruses.

9.Hydrogen Peroxide (H202) (3% solution food grade) :and a Nebulizer that will allow you to fill the medicine container. Mix H202—2 parts to 1 part distilled water. Nebulize into lungs by breathing mist deeply and through
mouth 3-6 times daily according to symptoms. remarkable results in curing the flu and cold within 12 to 14 hours by administering a few drops of 3% hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) into each infected ear, (sometimes only one ear is
infected). The H2O2 starts working within 2 to 3 minutes in killing the flu or cold; there will be some bubbling and in some cases mild stinging occurs. Wait until the bubbling and stinging subside (usually just a few minutes),
then drain the excess fluid onto a tissue and repeat the process in the other ear. It is easiest to lie on your side in bed while using this method, and a Q-tip or cotton ball work well to administer the H2O2. It is best to use 35% food
grade Hydrogen peroxide diluted to a 3% solution. mix 1 ounce 35% food grade peroxide to 11 ounces of distiled water in a pint jar ,shake. you now have a 3% peroxide.

The following substances may be best to avoid during a H5N1
pandemic


Elderberry juice (Sambucal) - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. This substance is very effective against the common flu but may not be desirable for the H5N1 virus. Increases in these cytokines may trigger a lethal cytokine storm.

Micro Algae (Chlorella and Spirulina) - AVOID - Increases production of cytokine TNF-a.

Honey - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6.

Chocolate - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6.

Echinacea - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. Although it is often used for normal flu, research shows that it may increase the chance of cytokine storms for H5N1.

Kimchi - AVOID - Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. calcium and magnesium-AVOID increased the activity of neuraminidases.

Dairy products & Bananas - AVOID - These foods increase mucous production.



Rember THE SPANISH INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC OF 1918 WAS CAUSED BY VACCINATIONS


“Obama administration's three Fall flu shots could be deadly”.
 Quoting: "The One Bee"



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