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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 756919 08/31/2009 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thought you'd never ask! Actually this forum is the most godless. I've never seen so many who reject Jesus or that he even existed. Really poor education we have. Wasn't the New Testament written hundreds of years after Christ? Though some say that the New Testament was written 100-300 years after Christ died, the truth is that it was written before the close of the first century by those who either knew Christ personally, had encountered him, or were under the direction of those who were His disciples. In the article When were the gospels written and by whom?, I demonstrated that Matthew, Mark, and Luke were all written before 70 A.D. Basically, the book of Acts was written by Luke. Since Acts 1:1-2 mentions that it is the second writing of Luke, the gospel of Luke was written even earlier. Revelation The author of the Book of Revelation is John. "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John," (Rev. 1:1). "Justin Martyr (Dialogue with Trypho, p. 308) (A.D.. 139–161) quotes from the Apocalypse, as John the apostle’s work." Revelation was probably written at the end of John the Apostle's life. Some hold to the 90's and it is the last book written in the New Testament. [link to www.carm.org] These books as found in todays canon of the King James NT were agreed upon as scripture, and no other, in the second century or earlier as they became available. Fact #1) The fact of the four-fold gospel is reflected in the "Muratorian Fragment" that Irenaeus was writing, around 170 A.D. The Muratorian Fragment lists for us basically the whole New Testament canon and it shows us that the four-fold gospel was an established fact by then. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Fact #2) We have approximately 50 manuscripts of the New Testament that PRE-DATE the Roman takeover of the established church in the 4th century. Fact #3) We have more than 32 THOUSAND New Testament quotations from the early church writers of the 2nd and 3rd centuries. In fact, we could recreate virtually the entire New Testament just from the quotes of the early church writers of the 2nd and 3rd centuries. We can be QUITE certain that the New Testament we have today has come down to us just as it was from the earliest days, and we can be QUITE certain what they considered to be scripture. Yes, the Roman government came along in the 4th century and corrupted and paganized the institutional church. There were many Christians who resisted this, and they were persecuted brutally. However, Christianity and the Bible were doing JUST FINE before Rome ever came on the scene. |
| mr...bojangles User ID: 760286 08/31/2009 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and your resentment comes from? Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
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| mr...bojangles User ID: 760286 08/31/2009 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anger is the real hell..... and it follows people wherever they go.... no need to die to go to hell..... Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu. Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher. Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy! |
| New Age Messiah (OP) User ID: 759089 08/31/2009 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and your resentment comes from? Quoting: mr...bojanglesI resent the lie that Barack Obama is a decent person, a caring individual. I resent the lie that the democrat party is on the side of the little guy. I resent the lie that it was all about sex during Monica gate. I resent the lie that there is some mystical power in "believing" in Jesus. I resent the lie that he died for our sins. I resent the lie that we are "helpless" victims of Adam and Eve's original sin, and we need a savior. I resent the Chrisitan religion for alienating hordes of people from true morality, and making conservatism seem like churchy garbage. I resent the church constantly revising their moral code to fit society. I resent the church drawing a line through the old testament and saying Jesus changed it. I resent people apologizing for "God" spinning him like politicians, when "He" tells Israel to kill every man woman and child, and tells people to stone their own children to death, and and and. He's GREAT ANYWAY, you say. We just don';t understand "His" holiness. And we don't understand Clinton either, do we? I resent Solomon and David having harems and God being silent as to any moral issues, instead David and Solomon being God's exemplary men, but NOW, since Jesus died, well, one man one wife and go to hell if you do otherwise. I resent you bastards who have NO CLUE whatsoever what happened 2,000 years ago pretending you're righteous and holy for believing the crap, when in FACT, you're stupid. Last Edited by New Age Messiah on 08/31/2009 02:00 PM "It Took Me A While To Realise, But N.A.M. Is The Greatest Poster On This, Or Any Other Forum." |
| ObeWayneKenobe User ID: 745585 08/31/2009 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and your resentment comes from?I resent lies, and especially lies that masses of people pretend are true. Quoting: New Age MessiahI resent the lie that Barack Obama is a decent person, a caring individual. I resent the lie that the democrat party is on the side of the little guy. I resent the lie that it was all about sex during Monica gate. I resent the lie that there is some mystical power in "believing" in Jesus. I resent the lie that he died for our sins. I resent the lie that we are "helpless" victims of Adam and Eve's original sin, and we need a savior. I resent the Chrisitan religion for alienating hordes of people from true morality, and making conservatism seem like churchy garbage. I resent the church constantly revising their moral code to fit society. I resent the church drawing a line through the old testament and saying Jesus changed it. I resent people apologizing for "God" spinning him like politicians, when "He" tells Israel to kill every man woman and child, and tells people to stone their own children to death, and and and. He's GREAT ANYWAY, you say. We just don';t understand "His" holiness. And we don't understand Clinton either, do we? I resent Solomon and David having harems and God being silent as to any moral issues, instead David and Solomon being God's exemplary men, but NOW, since Jesus died, well, one man one wife and go to hell if you do otherwise. I resent you bastards who have NO CLUE whatsoever what happened 2,000 years ago pretending you're righteous and holy for believing the crap, when in FACT, you're stupid. OK, you got my nomination for next president of the United States! Go gettum slugger!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 760323 08/31/2009 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I resent you bastards who have NO CLUE whatsoever what happened 2,000 years ago pretending you're righteous and holy for believing the crap, when in FACT, you're stupid. Quoting: New Age MessiahI resent your stupidity and ignoring the post that proves you are an ignorant troll with no understanding of truth. |
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| Richard Strong User ID: 471457 08/31/2009 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mary Mag was one sweet piece of ace though! Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeOh, you are like SO going to Hell for that one!!!! lol Eh, I'm a regular on GLP...what could be worse than that! I am Richardus Strongus. Father to a murdered 'Refreshtard' thread, Husband to a deleted Top 10 thread. I will have my vengeance on the Lightworkers ..in this life or the next. |
| Doomamatrix User ID: 759741 08/31/2009 02:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anger is the real hell..... Quoting: mr...bojanglesand it follows people wherever they go.... no need to die to go to hell..... Exactly. OP, I can relate, really I can. You sound as I did, all hurt and pissed as all hell from the carp-o-la that so many of the heavenly minded can often inflict in the name of love. I pray for you right now that in time, someone or someplace can begin to clear away the scales from your soul and let you see and understand God, Jesus and the faith as it is meant to be, not the burn, baby, burn method employed by so many. May you know peace. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 756562 08/31/2009 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | asshole was your rabied father boar because he did not put on the rubber in proper time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 416242------------- Your cult is garbage. I have been mocking the dog crap out of your bloated scabby, humpty dumpty, bogus, dofus, dunce cap wearing, worm humping, dumpster diving, god fugger, for more than thirty years. I am extremely happy, healthy and successful, and of course, not shackled to your mindless superstitious ignorant cult of MOOOOOOOOOOOOO cows. Your phoney baloney god character is nothing but make believe garbage. I'ts not real. It's a purely imaginary god character. That's why it has never, ever, ever, ever, VERIFIABLY, been seen except in your crappy silly ignorant old bibble. All your cult really has is your ignorant silly stupid crappy smelly really stinky, blind faith. |
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| New Age Messiah (OP) User ID: 759089 08/31/2009 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I can relate, really I can. Quoting: DoomamatrixYou sound as I did. Quoting: Doomamatrixall hurt and pissed as all hell from the carp-o-la that so many of the heavenly minded can often inflict in the name of love. Quoting: DoomamatrixI pray for you right now that in time, someone or someplace can begin to clear away the scales from your soul and let you see and understand God, Jesus and the faith as it is meant to be Quoting: DoomamatrixReality is God, when you pretend or lie, you cease to exist you die. Last Edited by New Age Messiah on 08/31/2009 03:50 PM "It Took Me A While To Realise, But N.A.M. Is The Greatest Poster On This, Or Any Other Forum." |
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| New Age Messiah (OP) User ID: 759089 08/31/2009 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maby the OP can elabrate as to the reasons why he would be any of these adjectives.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 603629Narrow is the gate and few will find it, wide is the path that leads to destruction. If you don't bear fruit, burn baby burn. If you don't give a cup of water, BURN. If you forget your oil, BURN. If someone else forgets their oil, to hell with them, keep yours. Let them BURN. These are freaky asshole "teachings" period. People who defend a bastard who would say this stuff have no more integrity than people who defend Clinton. Last Edited by New Age Messiah on 08/31/2009 05:26 PM "It Took Me A While To Realise, But N.A.M. Is The Greatest Poster On This, Or Any Other Forum." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 653234 08/31/2009 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're going overboard OP. Peace is a valid concept for humans to rally around, would you not agree? So perhaps people enjoy Christ worship because they feel he is the totem for peace. Can you grasp that and reply? And yes, I understand you will say: "But their followers are not being peaceful!" to which I will respond by asking what can the master do when he is away? Won't the servant act like fucking idiots and won't the master return to find them drunk? Yes, in some cases, everyone is a sinner. But then there's assheads who will rail against the concept of "sin" --they'll say "there is no such thing". But many humans would say that to harm another human, is a sin. The gospel story is written along the lines of confusion, as the Python boys pointed out years ago. Jesus, whomever he was, was concealed and not seen or known to the throngs which seek for him always. Only when he allowed it, did they see him. He was not an asshole, but a ninja. There were many seeking him when the age of the fish began at that time. They would have composited a story of the master on their own, if he'd not come. But still, I do believe it happened that Jesus was a King and with titleage. And yes, I believe Satan offered him Rome (all the kingdoms of this world) if he were to simply claim the Alexandrian power to which he was entitled. Jesus did not claim the crown at that time, and therefore he SACRIFICED his beloved city, Jerusalem. So perhaps from the Jewish perspective (they would have not wanted their city destroyed) when Jesus refused the Roman power which Satan offered him. When I prayed for guidance, I was told that the loving and Kingly Jesus was the grandson of Cleopatra and Marc Antony via their son, Alexander Helios, Jesus' father. He was a peaceful and loving King who simply abdicated via never claiming the crown. But to his enemies (same as today), yes, they would consider him to be the largest asshole ever. He knocked over the cash registers and gave them the finger. All the poor and needy, however, loved him and still do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 603629 08/31/2009 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maby the OP can elabrate as to the reasons why he would be any of these adjectives.... Quoting: New Age MessiahIf you are not ready in that hour, you will burn in hell forever. Narrow is the gate and few will find it, wide is the path that leads to destruction. If you don't bear fruit, burn baby burn. If you don't give a cup of water, BURN. If you forget your oil, BURN. If someone else forgets their oil, to hell with them, keep yours. Let them BURN. These are freaky asshole "teachings" period. People who defend a bastard who would say this stuff have no more integrity than people who defend Clinton. If you have the written words of "Christ himself" maby you could boost.... I can't argue with you.... You are so wrong.... He is the Good news... And our Fathers hand is always streached out... The true nature of our God is all about justice.. You,weather you beleive in Him or not, or hate Him or not belong to Him.. This earth,where you are,belongs to Him.. And heaven or hell,belongs to Him.. He is a JUST AND A JELIOUS God.... No that the"good"seed has been planted in all the world... Yes even in you,are we would be having this conversation. All it takes is a little watering......... But these are the choices "we"have to make... |
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| lilmisscantbewrong User ID: 754025 08/31/2009 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | asshole was your rabied father boar because he did not put on the rubber in proper time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 756562------------- Your cult is garbage. I have been mocking the dog crap out of your bloated scabby, humpty dumpty, bogus, dofus, dunce cap wearing, worm humping, dumpster diving, god fugger, for more than thirty years. I am extremely happy, healthy and successful, and of course, not shackled to your mindless superstitious ignorant cult of MOOOOOOOOOOOOO cows. Your phoney baloney god character is nothing but make believe garbage. I'ts not real. It's a purely imaginary god character. That's why it has never, ever, ever, ever, VERIFIABLY, been seen except in your crappy silly ignorant old bibble. All your cult really has is your ignorant silly stupid crappy smelly really stinky, blind faith. Hi fugger guy. How are you today? |
| New Age Messiah (OP) User ID: 759089 08/31/2009 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're going overboard OP. Peace is a valid concept for humans to rally around, would you not agree? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653234So perhaps people enjoy Christ worship because they feel he is the totem for peace. Can you grasp that and reply? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653234And yes, I understand you will say: "But their followers are not being peaceful!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653234I do believe it happened that Jesus was a King and with titleage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653234But to his enemies (same as today), yes, they would consider him to be the largest asshole ever. He knocked over the cash registers and gave them the finger. All the poor and needy, however, loved him and still do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653234The made up Jesus was an asshole, I have no idea how the real Jesus was, and I mean no malice toward him, nor frankly toward anyone who believes any religion, even though it's stupid. It's stupid to forget your car keys and stupid to leave the oven on and all that. It isn't fatal. It's not a final judgment, but it is STUPID. "It Took Me A While To Realise, But N.A.M. Is The Greatest Poster On This, Or Any Other Forum." |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 742532 08/31/2009 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and your resentment comes from?I resent lies, and especially lies that masses of people pretend are true. Quoting: ObeWayneKenobeI resent the lie that Barack Obama is a decent person, a caring individual. I resent the lie that the democrat party is on the side of the little guy. I resent the lie that it was all about sex during Monica gate. I resent the lie that there is some mystical power in "believing" in Jesus. I resent the lie that he died for our sins. I resent the lie that we are "helpless" victims of Adam and Eve's original sin, and we need a savior. I resent the Chrisitan religion for alienating hordes of people from true morality, and making conservatism seem like churchy garbage. I resent the church constantly revising their moral code to fit society. I resent the church drawing a line through the old testament and saying Jesus changed it. I resent people apologizing for "God" spinning him like politicians, when "He" tells Israel to kill every man woman and child, and tells people to stone their own children to death, and and and. He's GREAT ANYWAY, you say. We just don';t understand "His" holiness. And we don't understand Clinton either, do we? I resent Solomon and David having harems and God being silent as to any moral issues, instead David and Solomon being God's exemplary men, but NOW, since Jesus died, well, one man one wife and go to hell if you do otherwise. I resent you bastards who have NO CLUE whatsoever what happened 2,000 years ago pretending you're righteous and holy for believing the crap, when in FACT, you're stupid. OK, you got my nomination for next president of the United States! Go gettum slugger!!! Me too. |
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| lucifer User ID: 424327 08/31/2009 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I resent Solomon and David having harems and God being silent as to any moral issues, instead David and Solomon being God's exemplary men, but NOW, since Jesus died, well, one man one wife and go to hell if you do otherwise.. Quoting: New Age Messiahseem god need send pedhopil back to save humanity :p |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 760478 08/31/2009 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | asshole was your rabied father boar because he did not put on the rubber in proper time. Quoting: lilmisscantbewrong------------- Your cult is garbage. I have been mocking the dog crap out of your bloated scabby, humpty dumpty, bogus, dofus, dunce cap wearing, worm humping, dumpster diving, god fugger, for more than thirty years. I am extremely happy, healthy and successful, and of course, not shackled to your mindless superstitious ignorant cult of MOOOOOOOOOOOOO cows. Your phoney baloney god character is nothing but make believe garbage. I'ts not real. It's a purely imaginary god character. That's why it has never, ever, ever, ever, VERIFIABLY, been seen except in your crappy silly ignorant old bibble. All your cult really has is your ignorant silly stupid crappy smelly really stinky, blind faith. Hi fugger guy. How are you today? ---------- Your god is the fugger. Your god fugger can't do squat about me or anything else. christurds love to threaten me with.... FUTURE punishments. Notice that everything about you god fugger is claimed to happen in the FUTURE? christurds can only make excuses for their NO SHOW turd knocking god fugger, like: "He's too busy to do anything today, but just wait till he' gets good and ready" "he's coming soon" "he'll fry your ass" "you'll burn in hell forever" "god will fuk you up" "lake of fire" "etc etc etc etc etc etc". Truth is, your god character is less than a slop bucket full of piss. That's why it hasn't done squat, can't do squat now, and can't ever do squat. It's not real, It's a zero. It's just a fuking joke, make believe god fugger. |