Was JESUS sinless? -- No, no of course not, JESUS was born from a sinner -- Romans Chapter 3:[23] For all have sinned,

Interesting approach grasshopper. Your stating GOD was disconnected with his human creation, dis-connected with Adam, Noah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Solomon, etc, etc...

Interesting that you believe GOD to be not all-knowing, very, very interesting!

are god and adam was gay couple before eve exist :p

No, you misunderstand. People were disconnected from God.

Don't have to, the PAGANS that wrote the Roman version of JESUS have him to it himself.

Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Amen, I say to you, you will not finish the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.


CULT FABRICATION.


JESUS not being able to raise a PEBBLE at the sinful adulterous woman makes him a sinner among everyone who there incapable themselves to raise anything but their dicks.


JESUS being a sinner had good reasons wanting to do away with the LAW of GOD making him the LAWLESS one, like all sinners and criminals want to be.


Puleeezzzzz, if JESUS took away your sins then you would never die, for sin is death. But all men die, Christians or not, for in this World, there is not one religion under GOD, all religion under one agenda " divide & conquer."

Romans.6:[23]For the wages of sin is death.

That's not what you said:

"The reason God used a human woman to become Jesus was so that he would have a natural, as well as supernatural, connection to humanity. He became one of us."

Now that you stuck one foot in your mouth allow me to help you with your other foot. People were disconnected with GOD during the days of NOAH, so then, why didn't GOD use a human woman to become JESUS so that HE would have a natural, as well as supernatural, connection to humanity and became one with those people?

Stop using hearts and flowrs to try to mask the filth you are typing.

That means David (From Jews) is also a sinner, dirty sinner.

I use flowers to overpower the stench of this PAGAN belief and the vomit its followers throw up as an excuse to defend their LAWLESS ways!

it's very simple. diplomatic immunity.

There is only one guy on this forum that spreads lies like candy at a shriners parade, and then uses the term "grasshopper" and that is Hard Truth.

Other than that observation, I would say that you are a spiritual retard void of life, void of knowledge and void of value.

Obviously he got bored of his Nasa threads .

But you agree otherwise with the OP, is this my understanding?

Immunity is a lie. The PAGANS of this belief called Christianity don't love JESUS, they love the CULT aspect of this religion. Carefully woven by the sorcerers of paganism. The followers love the fact they can sin and believe they are magically forgiven and they perpetrate this on the youth so they too can bound themselves with unbreakable chains, and another generation is lost.

If Christians really loved JESUS they would read about him in Gnostic text because the Roman version is a complete fabrication leading only and into PAGANISM.

hi punisher

let me give you some perspective.

you know the pearl of great price parable? where the guy finds the perfect pearl, goes and sells all he has, and buys it?

YOU are that pearl. God gave His Son to buy YOU. He considers you so valuable, He would have done it even if you were the only person on earth.

YOUR REDEMPTION PRICE IS ALREADY PAID.

you are sitting on a shelf in a shop -- waiting for someone to buy you, not realizing JESUS ALREADY HAS.

the thing is, Jesus is knocking on the door of the shop, bidding you come out, but you aren't paying attention. you won't reach for the doorknob turn it and open the door.

Jesus would open the door Himself, but the only doorknob is on the INSIDE OF THE SHOP -- WHERE YOU ARE.

only you can take advantage of the freedom that's already been paid for by OPENING THE DOOR YOURSELF.

love ya

rb

You are confusing the sin-nature of man and being guilty of sin. Being man, Christ had a sin nature, but was without sin.

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet was without sin.

Sure, Jesus could have stoned her. It wasn't because he was weak. Remember that time he flipped out on the money changers at the temple? Can you imagine that, the prince of peace flipping their tables and chasing them out with a whip?

God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

"As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it."



I find it interesting how you quote Romans 3:23, one of the "Romans Road" verses on which to hang your point, but I'll mention another favorite Romans Road verse, Romans 3:12: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. It's often used in the sense that it's not possible for man to do good, and to supplement it, as those tracts often do, Isaiah 64:6, which is basically all our righteous acts are as filthy rags. This is all there to support and/or illustrate the notion that it doesn't matter what GOOD you do to try to favor the scales, it's not going to matter. How we act when we see ourselves and seek to prove our own GOODness.

If you want to behave humanely towards your fellow man, or bless someone in need, then by all means do it. Don't let God or the what the bible says or anyone else stop you.



God's laws are unfair to humans in their condition because indeed they are impossible to live by. You'll see Paul explain in Romans that the law is merely our schoolmaster, which brings us to a point where we recognize it's just not possible to obey. God's law is not unfair as a whole, though, because God himself is righteous and his law is a picture of that righteousness. You can better yourself with his law, but likely not though it -- it is futile and an impossibly heavy burden to carry. You cannot obtain righteousness, or this GOOD you speak of through that law.

Don't expect to work yourself into his grace. You'll find the respect and recognition of your fellow man, but our good works have nothing to do with our condition. I have some cognitive dissonance going on myself which might be very similar to yours, but I've already covered the first obstacle, and that's going about to create my own righteousness. God's grace is available to us if we are willing to accept the sacrifice of Christ our passover lamb the and live in it by faith. That faith is a starting point for good works.

You want a way out of the cult? Recognize the place of the law and the grace of God through Christ. I grew up in the Roman faith and I still have to deal with that ingrained belief system, that cognitive dissonance I speak of which limits me from the freedom I want to find the good works I desire. I'll leave you with a couple of words:

Romans 8:15 regarding the nature of the faith and how we then relate to God in faith: For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!"

Galatians 5:1 concluding the previous words and how we ought to live in the faith:
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage [law].

You are so tormented. Your cult has twisted your minds into believing the biggest PRETZEL of all cults.



- Who's the Father? --- Jesus! (John.1:14)

- Who is Jesus? --- The Son of God! (1John.4:9)

- Who's the Son of God? --- The Son of Man! (John.6:62)

- Who is the Son of Man? --- Emmanuel! (Matthew.1:23)

- Who's Emmanuel? --- The Lamb of God! (John.1:29)

- Who's the Lamb of God? --- The Lion of the tribe of Judah! (Rev.5:5)

- Who's the Lion? --- Jesus, the father of creation! (John.1:14)

I'm not a whore like the rest of you Sheep waiting for a Lion to marry you, ha,ha,ha, the Wedding of the Lamb/Lion -- PAGANS of Rome made JESUS dress up in DRAG.


John.14:[12] Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes in me will do the works that I do, and will do greater ones than these, because I am going to the Father.

And you're spending your days here on GLP when you can be healing the sick in Africa, feeding the poor with a couple of fishes and a few loaves of bread, shame on you!

Maybe some day we'll hear about you doing these wonderful miracles as a true disciple of JESUS.

How could that possibly be confusing? Jesus is God.

And a son, and a man, and a lamb, and a lion, and his name is Emanuel but friends call him Jesus, ha,ha,ha, no confusion its all clear.



If JESUS was the same Old Testament God the he would have no need to undo the LAWS he gave to Moses, unless he was being unfair to those people and was too demanding that after repenting of his mistakes came as human and was humbled by the experience.




JESUS is GOD, ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!!!!


The story of Jesus. The Old Testament God incarnate came to live amongst men. Was humbled by the experience and found out what a horrible idiot he was during the Old Testament, seriously, Jesus found out how difficult it was being human. In the Old Testament when Jesus/God didn't have to suffer at the hands of temptation and sin Jesus/God would be quick in wanting to stone people for whatever sin or temptation they indulged in.


But after being born a human, well, things quickly changed.


- Jesus/God was made humble, he no longer demanded that sinners be stoned as in the adulterous woman who was brought before him by the Pharisees. Jesus/God knew how difficult it was now to be a man, hanging out with prostitutes like Mary Magdalene, Jesus/God understood and went as far as removing the demons (lust) from Mary to avoid unnecessary temptation and made sure the adulterous woman was spared (thankfully).


- Jesus/God no longer cared for the ridiculous old covenant and wanted a new one, wanted to change, made damn sure the Temple burned down so that the old covenant was done away. Sure he didn't connect with the 'abomination desolation' prophecy, but that's understandable, Jesus/God wasn't just God anymore, but a man, a man that the Devil could intrude upon and disrupt his God-thinking-and-predicting abilities. LOL


- Jesus/God no longer cared for red meat either, in his earlier days like of the Old Testament Jesus/God would indulge in young bulls and rams, but as a man Jesus/God incarnate became aware that a diet high in red meat wasn't good for the body and quickly resorted to lowering his God-cholesterol-and-high-blood-pressure with fish (omega fats), and I'm sure there was poultry involved although not recorded.


Jesus/God became caring, healing the sick and feeding the hungry, sure there was only 5000 people fed, you'd expect more from a God, like maybe the World since Jesus is God, but no matter Jesus/God showed those there how to live longer through a high omega and fiber diet (fish sandwich). Jesus/God was also hospitable by changing water into white wine, you know it was "white" wine because they had fish, you can't have "red" wine with fish. And Jesus/God like to hang-out at night with the prostitutes and other shady characters; "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners" (Mark 2:17), so its not outside of the conceivable that Jesus was banging out "spritzers" at these get together s.


Jesus is GOD, sure thing, yeah, right!

If you're a man, you could be classified as a:

father
son
brother
uncle
nephew
friend
enemy
to some, even
ass
clown
snake

Just sayin'

LOL, those are all aspects of being a human, like you. But never a GOD


And you can't be a

lion,

lamb,

man,

angel (son of GOD),

and be named Emanuel but everybody calls you JESUS,

Mary was without sin. It says so in the Bible. Look it up.

If a human can be classified under different names, why can't God...we were made in His image.

Your name is not the same in differnt languages either.

God can.

The fact that you believe GOD could be a man tells me that you are twisted from the torment of this PAGAN Roman cult.


Numbers 23:19
GOD is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Hosea 11:9
I will not carry out my fierce anger,
nor will I turn and devastate Ephraim.
For I am GOD, and not man—
the Holy One among you.
I will not come in wrath.


Being made in His image means you can achieve the heights of your creation, or, live and die like the PAGAN you've become.

God and Jesus are two separate entities.

Jesus is the Word of God that became flesh.

GOD can kick your ass and that's exactly what He's fixin to do!

Yup, and a,

lion, and a,

lamb, and a,

man, and a,

angel (son of GOD),

and his name is Emanuel but you call him JESUS.


TWISTED LIKE A PRETZEL...

God can cause it to never have existed in the first place.