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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
chaol
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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
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Interesting---can we learn more?
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Could you tell more about your language?
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Hello!

To describe it farther, it's not a language used for speech and writing, like English. It's more of a language of perception.

We're completely surrounded by seen and unseen languages, representations used to transmit (and form) reality.

For example, 4 letters of DNA are able to communicate the genetic instructions for life itself.

We use 26 letters of the English alphabet to understand the world around us and communicate with others. If you can think of a sound there is probably a way to represent it in English.

Similarly, where I come from we are able to represent everything in our perception using 4 "elements". We learn about these 4 elements to understand the world around us, much the same way we also use English to do the same.

Once you determine what element something is (from your perspective), there is a simple formula you can use to learn more about it and its relationship with other things.

Because most the people where I am from know this language we've developed in a somewhat different way.

Yes, there are alternate realities. "Possibilities" they may be called.

Everything truly exists. Like I mention above, When something cannot be fully perceived, it appears infinite.

Thus, every possibility you can imagine.

Our language also enables us to perceive these alternate realities, if we want. One alterate realm is this one.

It is no different that using a web browser to tunnel to a website. You could say that in our world, we have invented a type of internal browser that can transport us to other worlds (this example for illustration purposes).

You exist in multiple realms now, at every moment. You could traverse hundreds of thousands of different possibilities in one day without knowing it. (However, most if not all of the time these worlds are quite relative to your own. It would be as though you never left the city in which you were born. For me and others it is as easy as taking a trip from USA to Mexico, for example.)

Our worlds are pretty much the same until the time of the industrial revolution. That's about where our worlds diverge a bit. It could be as small of a difference as someone not meeting someone else one day. That bifurcative moment "created" the kind of world in which I lived.

Thanks.
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Hello!

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Similarly, where I come from we are able to represent everything in our perception using 4 "elements". We learn about these 4 elements to understand the world around us, much the same way we also use English to do the same.

Once you determine what element something is (from your perspective), there is a simple formula you can use to learn more about it and its relationship with other things.

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Could you tell us some details about these 4 elements, the formulas and the relationships, and the structure of your language?
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thanks for the heads up.........how do we make we make our way over to you????
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Could you tell us some details about these 4 elements, the formulas and the relationships, and the structure of your language?
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Hello! Surely...

The four elements are ion, axon, chaon, elementon. (There is a 5th, but it's not used.)

Each can have a numerical value and context value. They are 1, 2, 3, 5, respectively.

An ion is structure.
An axon is potential energy.
A chaon is interaction.
An elementon is representation.

The basic formulas are:

* 1+2=3
* 2+3=5
* 5-3=2
* 3-2=1

So, for example: an ion element + an axon element = a chaon element (1+2=3)

To illustrate this example, let's say that a building is an ion element (structure; 1). The space inside the building is an axon element (potential energy; 2). So when you add these two elements together you get interactivity (chaon; 3).

You simply identify what element (of the 4) something is then you can extrapolate conjectures about its relationship with something else. You can also add more formulas onto the result to get more detailed extrapolations.

This is an example done for illustration. The system is used for the very simple as well as the very complex.

The basic formulas could be easily translated into workable For example, 3-2=1 could be translated as, "if we provide less potential energy than our interactions require, our time perspective is reversed." (As potential energy is being structured more than it is not.) Such a model can be used for what would be called time travel (although time is not really what is thought).

The benefit of such a base system allows anyone to use it to make their own extrapolations.

Thanks.
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thanks for the heads up.........how do we make we make our way over to you????
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Hello!

It can be done with the right tools.

The tools are not physically-based, however.

You have plenty of experience-altering tools that you take for granted. For example, how different would have been your life experience had you not learned how to read?

The tool I describe, however, has proven much more useful than written language. Imagine how much more useful learning the language of perception (more accurately, "perspective") would be.

We also developed the internet around the same 'time'. We call it something different but the idea is the same. The BIG difference is that instead of connecting to computer servers we connect to other worlds.

So instead of Gabby going to a website to find out more information on the French Revolution for a school project she would actually experience an aspect of the French Revolution. (Not "time travel" per se but the experience is similar.)

Thanks.
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I do not understand how consciousness cannot exist
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are there any hot chicks? do they put out?
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Note!

I should add that the elements can be anything, not just a physical concept as illustrated in the example above.

Potential energy (axon) for example can be emotions, fuel or energy, trust, capital, incentives or prizes, anything used for its capacity or space, et cetera.

As I mentioned, we represent everything in the universe (physical, non-physical, etc) using one of the four elements.

Thanks.
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I do not understand how consciousness cannot exist
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Hello!

It is because we only know of one thing in relation to another.

One is not aware of something directly.

To take an easy example, if you look at your hand you are not seeing it directly. You are interpreting your retinal image's electrical signals as they existed in the past. This "past viewing" is more obvious when you are looking at the sun (as it was several minutes ago) but also extends to everything else you think you're perceiving of right now.

There are only relationships, not consciousnesses.

Thanks.
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are there any hot chicks? do they put out?
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Sure!

Hot chicks. Cold chicks. In-between chicks. As many as a chicken hawk can hendle.

Thanks.
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That example helps but still hard to grasp for an earthling.
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Could you tell us some details about these 4 elements, the formulas and the relationships, and the structure of your language?


Hello! Surely...

The four elements are ion, axon, chaon, elementon. (There is a 5th, but it's not used.)

Each can have a numerical value and context value. They are 1, 2, 3, 5, respectively.

An ion is structure.
An axon is potential energy.
A chaon is interaction.
An elementon is representation.

The basic formulas are:

* 1+2=3
* 2+3=5
* 5-3=2
* 3-2=1

So, for example: an ion element + an axon element = a chaon element (1+2=3)

To illustrate this example, let's say that a building is an ion element (structure; 1). The space inside the building is an axon element (potential energy; 2). So when you add these two elements together you get interactivity (chaon; 3).

You simply identify what element (of the 4) something is then you can extrapolate conjectures about its relationship with something else. You can also add more formulas onto the result to get more detailed extrapolations.

This is an example done for illustration. The system is used for the very simple as well as the very complex.

The basic formulas could be easily translated into workable For example, 3-2=1 could be translated as, "if we provide less potential energy than our interactions require, our time perspective is reversed." (As potential energy is being structured more than it is not.) Such a model can be used for what would be called time travel (although time is not really what is thought).

The benefit of such a base system allows anyone to use it to make their own extrapolations.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 183770

The four elements are ion, axon, chaon, elementon. (There is a 5th, but it's not used.)

Let me guess the fifth element ..... it's called


laugh
moron !

spock
drevil
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..."if we provide less potential energy than our interactions require, our time perspective is reversed." (As potential energy is being structured more than it is not.) ...
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Hello!

An important point about how most people in my world seem to think.

What does fat have to do with time travel?

Fat cells, for example, are of the potential energy element.

You could translate the above example into: "if I eat less fat than I need for my daily activities then the ageing of my body and mind will decrease."

The same concept that can make most of us lose body weight and live longer lives can power a shift of time perspective.

In this world we look at something and ignore most of what we see, thinking "that does not apply to me".

In my world we can form relationships with everything, thinking: how can I translate that into something useful to me?

Helps,

Thanks.
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are there plants and animals there? sounds like a nice place to visit.
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Let me guess the fifth element ..... it's called


laugh
moron !
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Hello!

That's quite funny.

Something to think about.

Thanks.
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That example helps but still hard to grasp for an earthling.
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Okay!

What is consciousness to you?

Is there anything that you're completely aware of?

Thanks.
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bumpy


op, I am very interested in your form of perception. I would like much more instruction on it, if you do have such available.
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are there plants and animals there? sounds like a nice place to visit.
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Hello!

Pretty much the same basic things are are extant here. I like it here very much.

The biggest difference, perhaps, is there isn't as much of an emphasis on physical perspective.

So there's not that much "stuff" like so many roads or power lines.

However, you'd probably consider it more advanced (though I would not agree).

Thanks.
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op, I am very interested in your form of perception. I would like much more instruction on it, if you do have such available.
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Surely!

Search for the 4 elements and you shall find on your choice of search engine.

I am working on spreading this knowledge, as I have 'settled' here. Call me Marco Polo.

Thanks.
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Consciousness to me..hmm that would be my own perception of myself, my awareness of my own being.
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what form of transportation did you use to get here?
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So are you on the same earth as us, just a different "realm"?

Where on your earth do you live?
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I like op, he makes my brain smiiile herethere
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I like op, he makes my brain smiiile herethere
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or her hf
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sorry?dunno what haened to the heartflower D:
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I like op, he makes my brain smiiile herethere
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+1
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op. I dunno what I am expecting to find in a search engine, I did't find anything of certain relevance to what you are proclaiming. However, I am curious if you have other source links, maybe to a pdf or something pertaining to your knowledge of this higher structuring.

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