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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Unfortunately no - I only have time(or desire?) to absorb 1% or less of the info imparted here by Chaol and others. That small amount of info have been enough for me to start/complete/continue goals/objectives/milestones.
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This thread contains useful information though hard to understand and apply successfully. I wish I have more time to post/reply in it. I/we just made the almost 'impossible' happen in the financial aspect of our lives after trying for six years.
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Did you use ecsys to accomplish this "impossible" financial aspect?
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Unfortunately no - I only have time(or desire?) to absorb 1% or less of the info imparted here by Chaol and others. That small amount of info have been enough for me to start/complete/continue goals/objectives/milestones.
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Just checking in, have a busy day tomorrow, going to sleep soon, on this side of the planet.
I'll try to group together a couple of replies.

@MM - yes.
The player becoming a pawn to play with the pawns, reminded for some reason of one of the best movies ever seen, "The 13th floor". (though nothing beats "Blade Runner", lol)

@Starry3 - Thanks about the symbols! It's really fun to work with them. I may create one more soon... oh, and that kefir tastes good :-)

Homeopathy (same-ill), is about treating an ailment with a greatly diluted substance that normally would cause/aggravate it, rather than heal it. Same for same, to cause a reaction. It is the extreme dilution that makes it powerful (all that is left, is the energy imprint. The actual substance is gone), so it would not apply to kefir, which is consumed as is.

What I have to figure out, is why that particular symbol (kefir) was the one that became relevant to the issue at hand.
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The RA material has been so far, the one I mostly resonate with. In fact, I should read it again :-)
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... I was almost forgetting.... the other night I did ask for a vision of EC in the dream...
I did get a vision, and while dreaming, I was aware of it, and thought... how cool that I got what I asked for! I guess it was lucid...
What I got was a scene, where everything was rainbow-colored, with barely distinguishable shapes. Hard to describe.

As I was observing it, at first I thought, kind of confusing to find my way through it, squinted my eyes trying to see the boundaries of the shapes, but it looked very cool. This all happened from within the dream.
Thought about sharing it.
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I was avoiding posting the following to this thread, but it is something that I have burned into my understanding:

From the RA Material:

In truth there is not right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.
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Goofy Thum
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If I can paraphrase, you are everything in your perspective, or more succinctly you are perspective.
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Sure, but how do you use that statement? Also the law of one mentions going into a 'void' which they havent 'plumbed' yet, which implies theres something more.

more new age stuff related to the cube:
[link to www.spiritofmaat.com]
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Surely the knowledge that you are everything in perspective as opposed to this silly little human body, mind and soul must provide some value. Even this void you speak of is in my perspective so I must be it too.
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I personally dont like the idea of what might happen this summer, i hope im wrong ... ;;; 2012 so weird
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OMG. What about what might not happen this summer?
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Unfortunately no - I only have time(or desire?) to absorb 1% or less of the info imparted here by Chaol and others. That small amount of info have been enough for me to start/complete/continue goals/objectives/milestones.
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Just checking in, have a busy day tomorrow, going to sleep soon, on this side of the planet.
I'll try to group together a couple of replies.

@MM - yes.
The player becoming a pawn to play with the pawns, reminded for some reason of one of the best movies ever seen, "The 13th floor". (though nothing beats "Blade Runner", lol)

@Starry3 - Thanks about the symbols! It's really fun to work with them. I may create one more soon... oh, and that kefir tastes good :-)

Homeopathy (same-ill), is about treating an ailment with a greatly diluted substance that normally would cause/aggravate it, rather than heal it. Same for same, to cause a reaction. It is the extreme dilution that makes it powerful (all that is left, is the energy imprint. The actual substance is gone), so it would not apply to kefir, which is consumed as is.

What I have to figure out, is why that particular symbol (kefir) was the one that became relevant to the issue at hand.
---

The RA material has been so far, the one I mostly resonate with. In fact, I should read it again :-)
----

... I was almost forgetting.... the other night I did ask for a vision of EC in the dream...
I did get a vision, and while dreaming, I was aware of it, and thought... how cool that I got what I asked for! I guess it was lucid...
What I got was a scene, where everything was rainbow-colored, with barely distinguishable shapes. Hard to describe.

As I was observing it, at first I thought, kind of confusing to find my way through it, squinted my eyes trying to see the boundaries of the shapes, but it looked very cool. This all happened from within the dream.
Thought about sharing it.
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Oh wow i love the rainbow !
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I personally dont like the idea of what might happen this summer, i hope im wrong ... ;;; 2012 so weird
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OMG. What about what might not happen this summer?
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doom and gloom duh ! ok lol just joking, i see my perception of the world is shifting to butterflies and rainbows! or maybe cookies and cream world: hey, how do i shift my perspective i want everything made of cookies!

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Goofy Thum
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If I can paraphrase, you are everything in your perspective, or more succinctly you are perspective.
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Sure, but how do you use that statement? Also the law of one mentions going into a 'void' which they havent 'plumbed' yet, which implies theres something more.

more new age stuff related to the cube:
[link to www.spiritofmaat.com]
 Quoting: Starry3


Surely the knowledge that you are everything in perspective as opposed to this silly little human body, mind and soul must provide some value. Even this void you speak of is in my perspective so I must be it too.
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Tell you what, lets work together to create a language of perception thats not built on just cubes. squared google goooooooo rawwwwwwwwwwwwr hummmmmmmmm
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Lets work together to make a cookie universe
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Lets work together to make a cookie universe
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It's already fairly kookie
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This thread contains useful information though hard to understand and apply successfully. I wish I have more time to post/reply in it. I/we just made the almost 'impossible' happen in the financial aspect of our lives after trying for six years.
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Did you use ecsys to accomplish this "impossible" financial aspect?
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Unfortunately no - I only have time(or desire?) to absorb 1% or less of the info imparted here by Chaol and others. That small amount of info have been enough for me to start/complete/continue goals/objectives/milestones.
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Congratulations to you! Sometimes, it only takes a little dab of something to make a difference. Thanks for reporting to this thread. The rest of us find encouragement in success stories.
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I personally dont like the idea of what might happen this summer, i hope im wrong ... ;;; 2012 so weird
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[*To 'defeat' something you do not resist it. This interaction will create an environment where more of it is apparent. You simply do not focus on what you do not want. Make it irrelevant. But keep in mind that it may be symbolized in your perspective in more ways than is obvious. Your experiences will guide you, if you are careful to observe.]
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Also, remember how simply Seth put it: "You get what you concentrate on. There is no other rule".
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I dont think were saying its impossible, were just asking if theres another more desirable way .... Im not assuming its impossible, currently im lazy and dont wanna find another way :)

Im still very leery of dividing things into 4 forces - useful for the genius, but not for a language because the english language structures how we see reality visually and reduce the language to such simplicity is to miss the complexity. Missing the complexity in the sense that i dont want all the
details of matter, i want some mystery!

I do think describing the complexity with ec neuronics would work - however, i also think making it a fluent language would literally change how we visually see things. Maybe we could test it in a dream state (not the physical reality dream state - when we go to sleep!)


Agreed, our conscious mind is hypnotized into forgetting alot of things that are now 'subconscious'. We need to test how much we can remember without overloading ...
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Do you think that the 26 letters of the English alphabet to be more complex and useful than the 4 letters of the DNA alphabet?

I would propose that the 26 letters leave less room for mystery than the 4 letters, as the 4 are more inclusive.

The funny thing is that we don't know how many concepts we cannot express in English (or whatever similar language) because we ask the question, and think of the answer, in the same language that we're asking about!

I assure you, the number of things that cannot be expressed is so vast it could be said that English expresses nothing at all (the same way that you could say that a glass is full if it is 99% full).
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[snips]

@Chaol
How does the english language structure vision?
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For a start take a look at, "The Alphabet Vs The Goddess" by Leonard Shlain.

When we learn a word for something we are building a geometry of relationships. Why would a person knowing only "blue" not be able to perceive the same variety of colors as someone knowing 22 different kinds of blues.

The relationships are different, and so the experience is different.
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[snips]

@Chaol
How do the value of your world and ours differ?
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Hi.

What do you mean?
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I think the following summarizes

(1) Chaols universe is similar to that described by Anonymous Coward
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I'm not sure about that, so I cannot comment about it.

(2) People here probably would prefer this worlds way of seeing things to that of chaols
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It's not about 'preference', of course. Or what we assume others to want, or what these 'others' are thought to want.

I speak more of the nature of perspective, not on what is perceived. The actual perceptions do not actually matter much, as they are much more symbolic and not the actual thing.

(3) There is a constant interplay between the technical squarish building blocks, which is chaols world, and that of the wholistic which is this world. The technical squarish building block in the end doesnt work out all the way to the top, because this universe doesnt mesh the best with them ...
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It is kind of amusing that you perceive neuronicons to be technical, squarish building blocks.

They are symbolic. Representative. Again, not the 'real' thing.

How would you view DNA, then?

To say that these blocks are my world is way off the mark.

(3) Switching languages will permanently switch how we see things (visually) and eventually all of perception. Do we see things from a technical or overall viewpoint?
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One adds to language, not switches them. In a similar way you have added to the language you learned as a fetus, a newborn, a baby, or a child.

You would consider the workings of your own fingertips to be highly technical.

Yet they are useful (and easy) because they are symbolic. You need only work with the symbols, not what the symbols represent because these parent symbols are themselves symbols.

Ecsys is more 'overall' (as you say) than probably anything else that you can imagine.

If Ec, as one easy example, could illustrate the entire US Library of Congress in less than a few hundred neuronicons, which do you think is more technical?

That something is foreign does not make it less useful. We need only learn how to use something in order to become familiar with it.

The same way you learned how to speak.

But the difference is that Ecsys is not a requirement.
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@Chaol
What did you mean by switching one form of oppression/slavery for another? Why does there need to be oppression?
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As illustrated, because the opposite seems to exist.

With one, comes the other.

It is how perception comes to be. By imagining AB and making it real by imagining BA.
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Chaol,
thank you for your reply.

I agree that our interpretation of what we call souls could not be accurate from our physical viewpoint.

This leads me to another thought. If a certain concept/idea exists within our perception, there must be something behind that idea that validates it. Unless it's all just a big fantasy, and we are making things up.

In other words, if one even managed to grasp the idea of having a soul, as inaccurate as one may be in their interpretation of it, the idea itself brings it into perspective, and therefore it does exist.

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Would it exist without that which brought it into your perspective?

That it seems to exist does not mean that it actually exists (i.e., exists independently of something else).

Besides the geometry of relationships that is perspective nothing else is.


Unless I misunderstood some of the discussions, there seem to be two opposite interpretations of your message.
I recall you said that nothing is ever "created", it has always existed. We just rearrange what was already there, within this physicality.
At other times, it seems as if nothing exists, nothing is real.

Hmmm... it is possible that everything has always existed (in potentiality), while at the same time not existing at all (unless perceived)... To be, or not to be, may indeed be the question! It makes me think of your number 5.
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For the first few introductions on the concept I utilized the verbiage to denote that it is "more accurate".

Something is real because of what it does not appear to be.

However, these separations are an illusion.

You could ask, for example, "How does an apple exist if the uni-verse is an absolute?"

It's not that the it exists or does not exist. The question of existence is irrelevant because what else is there?

I am still not clear on the Japan thing, except for my projection that it may be related to radiation changing our physical construct in a way that it will enable us to shift perspective by the 2013 timeframe. The Fukushima radiation making cosmic radiation more relative to us. Not sure.
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Time will tell.

But the extent to which something is ignored is nearly the extent to which something permeates the structure of our reality.

When we resist (even through ignorance) we are giving something more power and relevance.
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@Chaol
What is the nature of sound? In your opinion how would you describe music and why people love it so much, atleast certain styles? For example, how would you describe this sound track

[link to www.eckankar.org]
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Sounds are representations, of course, and their internal and intranal relationships of and with each (other).

When a these relationships are of a certain geometry they we may perceive them as a certain type of light. Certain lights are perceived as sound. Those sounds that take the least amount of energy to perceive* we call 'pleasant'. Sounds that take much more energy to perceive we perceive as being 'unpleasant'.

Same for light or any other representation.

I'm not sure about your link, unfortunately.

*for ease of understanding only. The process, of course, would not be as simple to describe.
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Can the population of this "brand of physicality" accomplish colonization of space? Is this in our future?
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Also, remember how simply Seth put it: "You get what you concentrate on. There is no other rule".
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I believe it is, "You get what you concentrate on. There is no other main rule".

However, what does it mean to "get" something. Obviously, it is not coming to our house in a box wrapped up in a nice silk ribbon. It is to perceive it.

This is an easier way to share Ecsys prime which is basically, "We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive."

To 'concentrate' on something is to represent it in your experience more, even if by thought or sensory perception.

So, you experience what is most logical for you to experience.

This is all putting it simply, which is why we have nice sayings like, "You get what you focus on," etc.
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Can the population of this "brand of physicality" accomplish colonization of space? Is this in our future?
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As you've quoted me, I'll assume this question is for me and answer that we have already colonized space in the same way that you have colonized the air above you, indirectly. But not in the way that might be expected.

It will be an other kind of humanity that colonizes space physically and not this brand of physicality.

Space is physical, but only in the way that time is. They are physically-oriented geometries based on perspective rather than universal dimensions conquered by technological advancements.

Once we have discovered how to expand our perspective we will colonize space (as they are the same thing).
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It will be an other kind of humanity that colonizes space physically and not this brand of physicality.
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That answers my question. :(
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Chaol's Guide to Telling if You're on the Right Track with Your School of ThohT

for your entertainment, as all ways

1) Does it allow for the possibility that it is not true? [If not, deduct 500 points]

2) If all things are equal in the universe to it, does it speak in opposites and put some things above or below others in value and importance? [If so, deduct 1,000 points]

3) Can it do your taxes? Feed the dogs? Flush the toilet? How much of your life is it applicable to? Do you agree with it because it applies to your life so well? [If you agree with your School of ThohT deduct 200 points]

3) Does it have an origin story that people like? Could this story be the reason for its popularity? What would the ThohT be without this story? [If so, deduct 300 points]

4) If it speaks of unity, does it seek to assign names and symbols to things and to make experiences more complex? Is it unified with other Schools of ThohT or entities that it does not agree with? [Deduct 500 points each]

5) Is it built to withstand the power of a good beating? Does it contradict itself by doing the things it says not to do? Is it even capable of doing these things? [Deduct 150 points]

6) Does it survive by use emotional language? Does it assume to know the thoughts or emotions of whatever symbol or entity it promotes? Are these thoughts and emotions the kind of thoughts and emotions a human would have? [Deduct 400 points]

7) If it promotes love, can it define it? Is it only love for some (agreeable) things? Does it love hate, smelly things, or scones? [Deduct 20 points]

8) Does it promote the idea of right and wrong? If so, who defines these things? Does these definitions ever change? Who changes them? [Deduct 500 points]

9) Does it say that something is true? [Deduct 10,000 points]

10) Is it ever gonna give you up? Is it ever gonna let you down or run around and desert you? Make you cry? Say goodbye or tell a lie and hurt you? [Deduct 35 points)

11) Can your School of ThohT survive without its members? If so, does its "truth" depend entirely on the members' actions? If so, can it be said that it is a valid School of ThohT?

12) Does it allow for humor, funny things, enjoyable things, pleasurable things, or yummy things? Or does it try to restrict human behavior and possibility? [Deduct 600 points]

13) If it speaks about nature, is it human-based nature or nature nature? Does it pretend to know anything about nature? Does it promote the idea that you are not nature? Or humanity and civilization are not natural? [Deduct 150 points]

14) Does it talk about a universe? In its view of the universe, is everything not the same thing? (Does it forget what "universe" even means?) [If it does not know what 'universe' means deduct 7,000,000,000 points]

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It will be an other kind of humanity that colonizes space physically and not this brand of physicality.
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That answers my question. :(
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I cannot imagine this brand of physicality on a galactic scale.

We tend to seek out the kind of life that we ourselves see, and not what is actually there.

Your solar system is teeming with human life. But it's probably not the kind your looking for.

If each planet in it were not relative to your life on Earth you would not know of them. Our thoughts and ideas colonize other worlds, as long as they exist in our perspective somehow.

And, so too, we have colonized space via our dreams.

Next time you look up to the sky, see yourself dreaming. It is symbolic of an expanded perspective, and is where you would say your dreams reside right now. (This is not just an analogy.)

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Next time you look up to the sky, see yourself dreaming. It is symbolic of an expanded perspective, and is where you would say your dreams reside right now. (This is not just an analogy.)
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Thank you. This helps deal with a sense of disappointment. I had once been told that the stars represent ideas. I remember this when I look at them...and I look at them a lot.

Someone else once said that if you ever reach the edge of the universe, that you would bump into the back of your head lol.

So, I guess there have not been enough probabilities that correlated with this nexus. I mean, we should be in flying cars by now, with trips to the moon for a family vacation. When I was 7 year old, I sooooo looked forward to this having happened by the 21st century.
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10) Is it ever gonna give you up? Is it ever gonna let you down or run around and desert you? Make you cry? Say goodbye or tell a lie and hurt you? [Deduct 35 points)


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Hahaha!
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Next time you look up to the sky, see yourself dreaming. It is symbolic of an expanded perspective, and is where you would say your dreams reside right now. (This is not just an analogy.)
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Thank you. This helps deal with a sense of disappointment. I had once been told that the stars represent ideas. I remember this when I look at them...and I look at them a lot.

Someone else once said that if you ever reach the edge of the universe, that you would bump into the back of your head lol.

So, I guess there have not been enough probabilities that correlated with this nexus. I mean, we should be in flying cars by now, with trips to the moon for a family vacation. When I was 7 year old, I sooooo looked forward to this having happened by the 21st century.
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It would appear that things are becoming simpler and easier (mostly through technology), but it is the nature of existence to make things more complicated.

The technology we 'invent' makes other aspects of life more complicated. It's an exchange of energy, so to speak. (We are in need of social physicists here on this world.)

How can we say that no energy is created or destroyed but still expect exponential gains in efficiency or "energy saving" to not have an effect?

We do not "save" time, space, or energy. It is simply 'transferred' to the experience of its own destruction, so to speak. (To illustrate, imagine going camping with someone that does not know how to live without electricity. The 'energy' of your experience in this situation, and its after-effects, is not created out of thin air but transferred from the efficiency gains and use of the technology.)

As I've mentioned before the "green" movement is actually helping to destroy what it is thought to be saving. (The Earth will be here for a long time yet. We are not working to save it, we are working to save our own civilization. To think that the Earth needs any type of saving is kind of amusing.)

This singularity is reached in different ways then the process starts over and things again become more simple.

It's interesting to watch and I don't mind helping the process along.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
It would appear that things are becoming simpler and easier (mostly through technology), but it is the nature of existence to make things more complicated.

The technology we 'invent' makes other aspects of life more complicated. It's an exchange of energy, so to speak. (We are in need of social physicists here on this world.)

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Chaol

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05/26/2012 01:34 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
If I may sing off-key for a moment...

A guy meets up with his friend at a bar and tells him that he's going to Zimbabwe for a few weeks for work.

His friend tries to convince him not to go to Zimbabwe because there is an outbreak of a deadly virus strain called comicus.

"That can't be true because I haven't heard about it on CNN or Fox News!", the guy says to his friend.

His friend replies, "CNN and Fox News? You mean the same media channels that have been losing ratings to the internet because people are beginning to realize that popular media lie and manipulate?"

The guy goes home and checks the internet then sees his friend again the next day.

"I checked the internet but still didn't see anything about comicus. I think you're full of it!", the guy says to his friend.

"What site did you go to?", his friend asks.

"cnn.com," he replies.

This is just a stupid joke but it illustrates that oftentimes people do not believe something if it is not popular.

Often, what is considered true or real only has basis in social realities instead of more independent realities.

We are social beings, and we look to others for validation even if we do not realize it.





GLP