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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. | |
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SpawnX User ID: 23530328  United States09/14/2012 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More relative = easier to happen. For example, if you happen to be a great Basketball player or Corporation's CEO, the experience of earning alot of money is very relative to where you stand. Lets say I'm just a perspective working a slave shift for pennys on the dollar. No discovered talents that are bringing in the cash flow. How does this perspective make a relative experience of earning a lot of money from where I don't stand at this current moment? I prefer if examples relate to winning lottery game. Using all of Chaols teachings how can a perspective make winning a lottery drawing easier to happen? Buying random or predetermined numbers doesn't make winning lottery drawing easier to win. What's the missing puzzle piece that I cant grasp at this moment? How does a perspective make something easier to happen then makes it happen if he isn't there to begin with? How do I leap into a created reality? Chaol can you break down an example step by step so the forum can grasp ecsys on a higher level? |
| MutantMessiah User ID: 2727136 United States09/14/2012 05:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More relative = easier to happen. For example, if you happen to be a great Basketball player or Corporation's CEO, the experience of earning alot of money is very relative to where you stand. Lets say I'm just a perspective working a slave shift for pennys on the dollar. No discovered talents that are bringing in the cash flow. How does this perspective make a relative experience of earning a lot of money from where I don't stand at this current moment? I prefer if examples relate to winning lottery game. Using all of Chaols teachings how can a perspective make winning a lottery drawing easier to happen? Buying random or predetermined numbers doesn't make winning lottery drawing easier to win. What's the missing puzzle piece that I cant grasp at this moment? How does a perspective make something easier to happen then makes it happen if he isn't there to begin with? How do I leap into a created reality? Chaol can you break down an example step by step so the forum can grasp ecsys on a higher level? Short answer, you cannot. The challenge we have is that I don't know which tools (preconceptual framework) you are missing so let me note the following... you assign the meaning to all that exists...you are confined to that which you define yourself... your experience is a reflection of your choices... your choices are a reflection of your experience... you experience exactly what you deserve... what you think, you become... as above, so below... all is justified in perspective... all is dependent on your perspective... what comes "next" will be what you believe can come next... you are God... you've chosen to forget yourself.... you are forever looking to remember... everything that is, was and will be... is now... you are choosing to be here, right now... if you believe you do not have control, you won't... you are only restricted by your belief... You will feel this. You can make a conscious commitment to drop breadcrumbs for your "current" self, when you get to where you can. Know that as you collect(notice) the crumbs(hints) they are for you, from you. You can only allow yourself to advance as quickly as you believe you can. Believe (feel) what I've reminded you... remind someone else. If you assist others you will be assisted. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1500916  Canada09/14/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More relative = easier to happen. For example, if you happen to be a great Basketball player or Corporation's CEO, the experience of earning alot of money is very relative to where you stand. Lets say I'm just a perspective working a slave shift for pennys on the dollar. No discovered talents that are bringing in the cash flow. How does this perspective make a relative experience of earning a lot of money from where I don't stand at this current moment? I prefer if examples relate to winning lottery game. Using all of Chaols teachings how can a perspective make winning a lottery drawing easier to happen? Buying random or predetermined numbers doesn't make winning lottery drawing easier to win. What's the missing puzzle piece that I cant grasp at this moment? How does a perspective make something easier to happen then makes it happen if he isn't there to begin with? How do I leap into a created reality? Chaol can you break down an example step by step so the forum can grasp ecsys on a higher level? This has been answered many times before. Winning the lottery need not be relative. The consequences (surroundings, activities, etc.) associated with you already having won the lottery need to be relative to you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 United States09/14/2012 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something is there but not relative to your perspective then you will not experience it. Quoting: Chaol You will find a way not to disclude it from your logical narrative. The most striking example of this, IMHO, are the people who look at those odd, disappearing silver airplanes that lay down checkerboards of blossoming chemtrails in the sky, and insist that they're passenger jets leaving a vapor trail. I am trying real hard to accept that they cannot see what is happening right in front of them, but I still have to stare at their heads for awhile in utter astonishment. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1500916 Canada09/14/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something is there but not relative to your perspective then you will not experience it. Quoting: Chaol You will find a way not to disclude it from your logical narrative. The most striking example of this, IMHO, are the people who look at those odd, disappearing silver airplanes that lay down checkerboards of blossoming chemtrails in the sky, and insist that they're passenger jets leaving a vapor trail. I am trying real hard to accept that they cannot see what is happening right in front of them, but I still have to stare at their heads for awhile in utter astonishment. For me its unbelievable that the majority can not see the multiple roles of the actors in the drama we call the world. I dont watch much tv or movies so I would think those that do would recognize these same individuals in the different roles with their stage makeup and costumes on. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 United States09/14/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Artificial islands? A population living in Antarctica? Constant surveillance keeping the neighbors more friendly with each other? The symbol Sekhmet is 30,000 years old? Everything is represented within our perspective? Like the legend of Atlantis? Has anybody else read A Dweller of Two Planets by Phylos the Thibetan? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 United States09/14/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something is there but not relative to your perspective then you will not experience it. Quoting: Chaol You will find a way not to disclude it from your logical narrative. The most striking example of this, IMHO, are the people who look at those odd, disappearing silver airplanes that lay down checkerboards of blossoming chemtrails in the sky, and insist that they're passenger jets leaving a vapor trail. I am trying real hard to accept that they cannot see what is happening right in front of them, but I still have to stare at their heads for awhile in utter astonishment. For me its unbelievable that the majority can not see the multiple roles of the actors in the drama we call the world. I dont watch much tv or movies so I would think those that do would recognize these same individuals in the different roles with their stage makeup and costumes on. It is like Chaol mentioned a few pages back, about the way things are hidden in plain view, simply because they are so unbelievable to most that they cannot see it. He used an example of Nazis in the White House. The New York Times ran a series of articles on Project Paper Clip and, yet, people still take sides and holler at each other about Republican/Democrat; left/right; liberal/conservative...as if any of it makes any difference at all. They ignore what is directly in front of them! They simply cannot believe it and so they don't see it. Nazis Were Given ‘Safe Haven’ in U.S., Report Says [link to www.nytimes.com] Try explaining synthetics and robotoids to a regular imbiber of the MSM. I gave up on such projects a long time ago. And to explain being the dream world? There are people who want to put me away! For real! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1500916 Canada09/14/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something is there but not relative to your perspective then you will not experience it. Quoting: Chaol You will find a way not to disclude it from your logical narrative. The most striking example of this, IMHO, are the people who look at those odd, disappearing silver airplanes that lay down checkerboards of blossoming chemtrails in the sky, and insist that they're passenger jets leaving a vapor trail. I am trying real hard to accept that they cannot see what is happening right in front of them, but I still have to stare at their heads for awhile in utter astonishment. For me its unbelievable that the majority can not see the multiple roles of the actors in the drama we call the world. I dont watch much tv or movies so I would think those that do would recognize these same individuals in the different roles with their stage makeup and costumes on. It is like Chaol mentioned a few pages back, about the way things are hidden in plain view, simply because they are so unbelievable to most that they cannot see it. He used an example of Nazis in the White House. The New York Times ran a series of articles on Project Paper Clip and, yet, people still take sides and holler at each other about Republican/Democrat; left/right; liberal/conservative...as if any of it makes any difference at all. They ignore what is directly in front of them! They simply cannot believe it and so they don't see it. Nazis Were Given ‘Safe Haven’ in U.S., Report Says [link to www.nytimes.com] Try explaining synthetics and robotoids to a regular imbiber of the MSM. I gave up on such projects a long time ago. And to explain being the dream world? There are people who want to put me away! For real! In America? The happiest place on earth, where arbeit macht frei? |
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| Gespenst User ID: 23861634  Brazil09/15/2012 11:20 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | September 29: Quoting: Chaol [link to www.01.ign.es] Immense pressure, like a Bond, is not only building up tremendously but has "shaken loose" an important layer in the Earth's mantle in that region. This bond (meaning 3) stretches all around the Earth, of course, so it is telling us that pressure in the mantle is at extreme levels and magma is continuing to build up at a rapid pace. Who doesn't like a little Magma in the morning? Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) (Page 41) |
| Chaol User ID: 2690124  Thailand09/16/2012 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How and why are the relationship between 'you' and the 'disease' valued? Especially when you just suggested that neither exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2908369 I suppose I am having trouble separating current "realities" (I have an aggressive bacterial infection) from the relationships spoken within Chaol's ideas. In other words, while I recognize that they "do not exist" per se, and culminated from "previous" thoughts,choices, experiences etc. I still am fighting the disease. So perhaps to answer your question, there may be some value to it, but I am interested in changing that current relationship as fast as possible as it is horrible. Did I answer your question? Seeker They are as real as your dreams. How would you change a dream? |
| Chaol User ID: 2690124 Thailand09/16/2012 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How would you define it? Let's start from there. Can you give an example of someone becoming more relative to receiving an ambundence of USD dollars. May the example show the change in relation that makes receiving money more relative. Quoting: SpawnX You would not focus on the 'receiving money' part of it but the conditions that come about under such circumstances. If you think about 'money' then you're putting the cart before the horse. What do you think it would be like for you to have 'an ambundence of USD dollars'? Care to share your way of receiving money? You are using a genius method from what you stated a while back ago. Quoting: SpawnX And could you explain more about observing flashing blue screen at the right SPEED/ frequncy. What was the purpose of that? Irrelevant due to lack of technology, right speed, or focus? Unfortunately, I tend not to share my methods but try to impart methods that would be easier to understand. My methods are far more complicated (from other perspectives) and would create further confusion. And could you explain more about observing flashing blue screen at the right SPEED/ frequncy. What was the purpose of that? Irrelevant due to lack of technology, right speed, or focus? Quoting: SpawnX What matters more is the color rather than the frequency. That was for the 'Magic Mirror of Chaos' to be able to perceive other perspectives. It's not irrelevant so much as 'too late' to begin using it. I've instructed others how to achieve similar effects using what they have. |
| Chaol User ID: 2690124 Thailand09/16/2012 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets say I'm just a perspective working a slave shift for pennys on the dollar. No discovered talents that are bringing in the cash flow. How does this perspective make a relative experience of earning a lot of money from where I don't stand at this current moment? Quoting: SpawnX If you define your experience as, "...slave shift for pennys on the dollar. No discovered talents that are bringing in the cash flow." then of course your desired experience is not relative. Because you've made it so. I prefer if examples relate to winning lottery game. Quoting: SpawnX Using all of Chaols teachings how can a perspective make winning a lottery drawing easier to happen? Buying random or predetermined numbers doesn't make winning lottery drawing easier to win. What's the missing puzzle piece that I cant grasp at this moment? Using the methods you would not focus on "winning a lottery drawing" but on the conditions you would likely to experience if that were to happen. By focusing on "winning a lottery drawing" you actually push it away. It would be like rejecting all other ways to experience your conditions in favor of how you think it should be. How does a perspective make something easier to happen then makes it happen if he isn't there to begin with? How do I leap into a created reality? Quoting: SpawnX There is but one perspective, actually. It is definitely there to begin with. No leaps required. Chaol can you break down an example step by step so the forum can grasp ecsys on a higher level? We're still on the basics, actually. (Not the very basics, however.) I've explained the basics of Ecsys at length on this and other threads. Is there a more specific question or concern you have to which I could respond? |
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| Chaol User ID: 2690124 Thailand09/16/2012 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315 The most striking example of this, IMHO, are the people who look at those odd, disappearing silver airplanes that lay down checkerboards of blossoming chemtrails in the sky, and insist that they're passenger jets leaving a vapor trail. I am trying real hard to accept that they cannot see what is happening right in front of them, but I still have to stare at their heads for awhile in utter astonishment. For me its unbelievable that the majority can not see the multiple roles of the actors in the drama we call the world. I dont watch much tv or movies so I would think those that do would recognize these same individuals in the different roles with their stage makeup and costumes on. It is like Chaol mentioned a few pages back, about the way things are hidden in plain view, simply because they are so unbelievable to most that they cannot see it. He used an example of Nazis in the White House. The New York Times ran a series of articles on Project Paper Clip and, yet, people still take sides and holler at each other about Republican/Democrat; left/right; liberal/conservative...as if any of it makes any difference at all. They ignore what is directly in front of them! They simply cannot believe it and so they don't see it. Nazis Were Given ‘Safe Haven’ in U.S., Report Says [link to www.nytimes.com] Try explaining synthetics and robotoids to a regular imbiber of the MSM. I gave up on such projects a long time ago. And to explain being the dream world? There are people who want to put me away! For real! In America? The happiest place on earth, where arbeit macht frei? We tend to have a short memory, which benefits certain interests. They never left. We forget that they were supported by powerful people in the US. That didn't change after the war was "lost". It's all just a game to such persons. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 United States09/16/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm tired of playing their game. They cheated! They did not share the rules with us. They laugh at us as they display their shenanigans in full view of everybody. We were hoodwinked! Something else that many people refuse to look at is the dark occult. Perhaps this is why there are so many warnings to the populace about avoiding such things; if you don't know about the "other side", then you don't know what the game IS. But, when one examines the deeply esoteric "kook" stuff, one discovers that the natural geometries of the universe have been used against us. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 United States09/16/2012 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if gold is an Earthly, physical representation of the Sun.. what might it all mean? Quoting: Chaol To begin with, "time" in this world is established by measuring the decay rate of caesium-133. The decay rate of gold-198 is measured by the release of its neutrinos. The Sun emits streams of neutrinos. There are reports that recent solar flares have been changing the decay rate of molecules on Earth. Some neutrinos change themselves as they travel. They change into something else. Is this on the right track? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 09/16/2012 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You haven't escaped anything, Canada. You do realize, I hope, that this was not the real Queen of England at the opening ceremonies? I was not intending to suggest we have escaped anything here in Canada. Some of the most prolific 'actors' originate from Canada. One of the important aspects to recognize is that the nazi characters are no different than any of the others...they are simply a role. |
| Baltar User ID: 14348632 United States09/16/2012 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello! Quoting: chaol 183770 I have been living in this world for some time now. I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours. I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future. * Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do) * Matter is gravity that has been structured * We are not human (we are perspectives) * When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite. * Space is not physical * There is no "now" or "here", but relationships. We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different. If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science. This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting. If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know. Thanks. cool thread, bro will be waiting to read more The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~Marcus Aurelius |
