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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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...Nazis in the White House.

They never left.

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I think we call them "neocons" nowadays.
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...Nazis in the White House.

They never left.

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I think we call them "neocons" nowadays.
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I usually follow your logic and love your posts but I don't follow this one. They have opposite philosophies.

I thought it was more in reference to the president and family that acted in the roles of hitler, goebels, hess, etc., that then came back to America after the war and took prominent roles in the entertainment industry.
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There's a lot to catch up on :)

Thanks for your patience!
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Hi Chaol. What's next?
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The start of the "end of the world".

The gloves come off for 2013. From September 9 onwards is the beginning of something fantastic.

And you've got front row seats!

About 8 months ago I talked about how Obama's 'family' would become an issue. This led to a man called Brietbart being murdered, which itself opened a can of worms in all directions. I also talked about how the actors in these dramas would begin to be exposed. The LIBOR scandal is one of the biggest exposés (among others for the past few months), but not the biggest yet for 2012.

Events so powerful that they cause the ground to shake from a decade ago. (You'll get the hang of this 'flexible' time's pace soon enough.)

Your world is crumbling as we see ourselves in the reality that is before us (the dream world).

Better to talk about what is happening than what will happen. All is now.

Back to reading and calibrating. It may be a few days before I am properly 'adjusted'.
 Quoting: Chaol


September is turning out to be an interesting month. We're not done yet, of course. We're just getting started. (Did you forget to bring the popcorn?)

"2012" did not begin in January. It begins in September, as I said in 2009. But the real 'end of the world' is in 2013. This is just practice.

The East/West hemispheres on the brain are in identity crises. There's other stuff in the pipeline, but needless to say there is (will be) so much going on simultaneously you won't know where to look or what to believe.

And that is the point.

"If you are me, then who am I?"

The dream world is what you make of it.

All for entertainment, of course. Hasn't it all ways been?
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So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
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There's a lot to catch up on :)

Thanks for your patience!
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Hi Chaol. What's next?
 Quoting: miqq


The start of the "end of the world".

The gloves come off for 2013. From September 9 onwards is the beginning of something fantastic.

And you've got front row seats!

About 8 months ago I talked about how Obama's 'family' would become an issue. This led to a man called Brietbart being murdered, which itself opened a can of worms in all directions. I also talked about how the actors in these dramas would begin to be exposed. The LIBOR scandal is one of the biggest exposés (among others for the past few months), but not the biggest yet for 2012.

Events so powerful that they cause the ground to shake from a decade ago. (You'll get the hang of this 'flexible' time's pace soon enough.)

Your world is crumbling as we see ourselves in the reality that is before us (the dream world).

Better to talk about what is happening than wEhat will happen. All is now.

Back to reading and calibrating. It may be a few days before I am properly 'adjusted'.
 Quoting: Chaol


September is turning out to be an interesting month. We're not done yet, of course. We're just getting started. (Did you forget to bring the popcorn?)

"2012" did not begin in January. It begins in September, as I said in 2009. But the real 'end of the world' is in 2013. This is just practice.

The East/West hemispheres on the brain are in identity crises. There's other stuff in the pipeline, but needless to say there is (will be) so much going on simultaneously you won't know where to look or what to believe.

And that is the point.

"If you are me, then who am I?"

The dream world is what you make of it.

All for entertainment, of course. Hasn't it all ways been?
 Quoting: Chaol


I am expecting the unexpected. The old left hemisphere is having some issues because all the old logic is in question.
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So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
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I'm here with a bowl of popcorn popcorn
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Chaol,

First off I'd like to say I can't wait to see whats going to happen...

So if the dreamworld is what we make it, do you mean something of the classical variety, like being able to dream a life of wealth, fame, great love, wisdom etc.? Or does this mean something that is out of normal humanity's wildest...ahem...dreams?

Also, out of sheer curiosity, do you like the Science Fiction series Dune? One of the many themes of these books are about the "unexpected" and how necessary they are in the development of humanity. And they are quite entertaining btw. Thanks.

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So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
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I think I'll just sleep/explore the dream world while this one ends.

Wake me in 2013?
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So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
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We'd better be!
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I wonder, since ww3 and the collapse of the "old" financial sytem are expected... then if we look forward to the unexpected we could end up sidestepping these issues altogether.

Asking us to expect something that is outside of our ability to expect opens up possibility for something different to happen, right? I see our current reality as percieved at this moment as the logic, the persistent "are you ready?" as the interaction and the rising anticipation as the possibility...

I appreciate you Chaol and look forward to what comes next.

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Nothing is irrelevant.
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I wonder, since ww3 and the collapse of the "old" financial sytem are expected... then if we look forward to the unexpected we could up sidestepping these issues altogether.

Asking us to expect something that is outside of our ability to expect opens up possibility for something different to happen, right? I see our current reality as percieved at this moment as the logic, the persistent "are you ready?" as the interaction and the rising anticipation as the possibility...

I appreciate you Chaol and look forward to what comes next.
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Are you saying we could avoid WW3 by choosing a different path?
If that's a yes, I think the same
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I wonder, since ww3 and the collapse of the "old" financial sytem are expected... then if we look forward to the unexpected we could up sidestepping these issues altogether.

Asking us to expect something that is outside of our ability to expect opens up possibility for something different to happen, right? I see our current reality as percieved at this moment as the logic, the persistent "are you ready?" as the interaction and the rising anticipation as the possibility...

I appreciate you Chaol and look forward to what comes next.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Are you saying we could avoid WW3 by choosing a different path?
If that's a yes, I think the same
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If we can make ww3 less relevant, then that energy (possibility) may render in a more relative / preferable way.
Nothing is irrelevant.
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The East/West hemispheres on the brain are in identity crises.
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RA = Left hemisphere (Horus/Sun/Western/Male/Yang)
ISIS = Right hemisphere (Set/Moon/Eastern/Female/Yin)
EL = Cerebellum (Osiris/the Creator/the Center)

Pacific Ocean = prefrontal cortex (directly opposite the cerebellum)

When the West is in conflict with the East, the struggle manifests in the center, the Middle East

Occult Astrotheology

Mark Passio was a priest for dark occult organizations. He decided to tell the world about the teachings of these organizations. His overlords gave him permission to go ahead, declaring that no one would believe him.

Mark Passio - Occult Influence, Mind Control & Astrotheology - Part 2 of 4
[link to www.youtube.com]

Horus begins at 1:43:43

When you get bored, jump to

Earth as a global living, brain: 2:24:00 to 2:38:32

All parts of this lecture are on Passio's website:
[link to www.whatonearthishappening.com]

Also of value:

Why dependence upon the left hemisphere leads to a police state.

Mark Passio - Free Your Mind Conference 2011
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Could we be ready for something of what we are not yet aware?

It is more of a curiosity to see what lay ahead?

Indeed, "World War III" is becoming more relative, or so it seems. It is not a linear progression, of course. It is entirely up to you, so to speak.

What have you included in your perspective?

The reason I am here at this time is because there are some of us who have included such possibilities in their perspective.

The current issues that many are now thinking may lead to an other wold war have all been orchestrated by governments in the United States.

They mostly have to do with the petrodollar and the power of fiat currency. Without the ability to create money out of thin air, its position is diminished.

So it will do whatever it takes to fortify the currency. It will send Japan against China, a country that rightfully wants to price itself out of dollars. It will destroy Libya, a democratic country that was planning to unite Africa and create the Dinar. It will destroy Iran, a peaceful country who last attacked an other country when George Washington had just stepped down as president. Every major conflict in the world (values of perspective) is in one way or an other manipulated and managed by the US interests.

The 'old logic' will not prevail. But it will certainly fight to the death of itself.

See a few posts up about a short discussion on how this all ties together with changes in perspective.
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hi, what will replace money?
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You'll always have money.
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Money is a symbol for an energy exchange, right? The symbol could be anything: cowrie shells, stones, drugs...

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What happens when this energy is created in an abstract way with a few punches of the keyboard, without being tied to something else?

What is a representation when its potential energy has no limits, and is well beyond the limit of what the symbol can support?

...to the tune of USD $300 trillion over the past 4 years? (Much, much more than you have been told.)
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@chaol

It is by definition impossible to be "ready" for the unknown. What we can do... is understand that all is, as it is. Acceptance of anything that comes unknown or otherwise is the only way to be "ready".
Nothing is irrelevant.
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So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
 Quoting: Chaol


If we were unable to see you last fall, then what makes you think we will be able to see them?

Are you finally lifting the curtain and turning on the lights?

("Revelation" for the month of September, he says. "Revelation", bought for a dollar! Sheesh.)
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The current issues that many are now thinking may lead to an other wold war have all been orchestrated by governments in the United States.
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All of it propaganda. All of it designed to divert attention.

I don't play that game anymore. I hear what is being shouted from the rooftops, and then I turn my head and go about my own business. I don't have to participate if I don't want to.

huffy
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The current issues that many are now thinking may lead to an other wold war have all been orchestrated by governments in the United States.
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All of it propaganda. All of it designed to divert attention.

I don't play that game anymore. I hear what is being shouted from the rooftops, and then I turn my head and go about my own business. I don't have to participate if I don't want to.

huffy
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But, without resistance, let me add! There are simply more interesting things that I prefer to do.
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What happens when this energy is created in an abstract way with a few punches of the keyboard, without being tied to something else?
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This is what hackers do. :)

Of course, this electronic money is silly. Who hasn't figured out that one yet? And no need to print little slips of paper! What a scam!

Incidentally, speaking of the Sun and gold, I recall as a child the sun being golden. Nowadays, it is white.
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The reason I am here at this time is because there are some of us who have included such possibilities in their perspective.
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...and I always thought that I was amongst that particular crowd, but then Elenin came and went, and we got the post last December about "if you are reading this, then you probably didn't make it".

Cannot tell you how that depressed me for months!

Then, the disappointment that came with the no-show of the big ass UFO, as large as a small country, and I have to tell you, Chaol, that I pretty much give up. You say that you are in control, and I hand over the reins. I don't know anything.
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"If you are me, then who am I?"

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Although you bill yourself as a big, mean Destroyer, I have always found you to be very kind, both here on this forum and in other places. You have been tolerant of my cluelessness and I much appreciate that. You have given a lot to all of us.
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hi, what will replace money?
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You'll always have money.
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Money is a symbol for an energy exchange, right? The symbol could be anything: cowrie shells, stones, drugs...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


What happens when this energy is created in an abstract way with a few punches of the keyboard, without being tied to something else?

What is a representation when its potential energy has no limits, and is well beyond the limit of what the symbol can support?

...to the tune of USD $300 trillion over the past 4 years? (Much, much more than you have been told.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Does the symbol becomes useless disappears? Or does it just become green paper perfect for starting a BBQ.

Like removing octane from gas making it useless. Or adding water to milk nobody wants that.

What's the new symbol for money. Could it switch back to gold for a period in time and really fulfill Chaols $21k an ounce prediction.


So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
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Perspective is defiantly already there to begin with, no surprises.
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...to the tune of USD $300 trillion over the past 4 years? (Much, much more than you have been told.)
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If all electronics were to go kaput, then all debts would be erased.
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Incidentally, speaking of the Sun and gold, I recall as a child the sun being golden. Nowadays, it is white.
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I recall that too! There used to be a time you could look into the sun (not too long obviously). That's impossible nowadays.
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The reason I am here at this time is because there are some of us who have included such possibilities in their perspective.
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...and I always thought that I was amongst that particular crowd, but then Elenin came and went, and we got the post last December about "if you are reading this, then you probably didn't make it".

Cannot tell you how that depressed me for months!

Then, the disappointment that came with the no-show of the big ass UFO, as large as a small country, and I have to tell you, Chaol, that I pretty much give up. You say that you are in control, and I hand over the reins. I don't know anything.
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The 'UFO' was done as (mostly) intended. As was noted, it was a group effort. I merely provided the direction. I consider it a great success and the first of its kind.

<<We will 'manifest ourselves' as a multitude of bright and colourful orbs in the daytime sky in front of a crowd of thousands, perhaps millions.>>

What is not realized and as was mentioned before there was, indeed, a UFO on July 18th. That was done by those in this forum. ("...in front of a crowd of thousands...")

However, the energy on July 18th was used for the Olympics opening ceremony, which was the nearest mass-scale event. ("...perhaps millions...")

We can be arguing about what did and did not happen until the end of time. Heck, we're still arguing about who shot Kennedy, the Moon landing, and 9/11.

The evidence is there for all to see.

Regarding Elenin, I overestimated the ability of the majority of persons on this forum to understand what it is about. Although I explained it in detail and at length, persons seem to bring their own beliefs and interpretation to the table.

Even before the event, I said several times that nothing "bad" will happen. That the event was more meaningful than physical. However, the evidence is there for all to see.

Regarding, "if you are reading this, then you probably didn't make it" how would you know if you did or not? Take what I say as light entertainment, but here I am back again when I said things would ramp up (September 2012).

And here you are.

Did you "make it"?

Take a look around. Your world is falling apart. I don't know how else to put it.

The dream perspective is trying to break though but you're still 'stuck' in the old perspective. How else do I say this?

I tend not to do and say things that others would want me to do and say. What purpose would that serve?

My words implore you to think for yourself. To figure it out. And even for you to help along the way, which many of you are starting to do more of.

It is not my intention to be "right". Sometimes I am intentionally wrong about things, or make mistakes, or even manipulate you for my own purposes.

However, I have put all my cards on the table. Am I who I say I am? (Does it really matter? I've said before that I don't actually want you to believe me. It's better if you think for yourself and use my words as a reference. If I told you exactly about everything then it would defeat the purpose entirely and I would look like a kosmik a-hole. But many of you would be quite satisfied.. for a short while. I am still waiting for the half-dozen or so persons whose 'mind I read' to even reply to my response about their innermost secrets.)

Really, how many of you want to do the work required to change perspectives? Many (not all) of you would prefer me to just tell you what to do.

This I am unable to do. It would seriously work against you.

I am still playing chess-not-checkers. A long game of chess. If you think I am "wrong" because I give up a piece on the chessboard it's entirely up to you. But sooner or later you're going to realize that something is a bit different about this chessboard.

I am the fool who jumps out of a plane without a parachute and magically lands on my feet whilst you turned your head to look at the girl in the red dress and claimed I was on the ground the whole time. It matters not to me what you saw or didn't see. I only care to remind you of the course of events to mark values in perspective so that I may return again.

My jumping out of the plane is a marker for me to get back here no matter if you see it or not.

So here we are.

Many of you have made tremendous changes in perspectives over the years that I have posted. It's very refreshing.

Is anything in this thread true?

Probably not :)

The truth is beyond perception.
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"If you are me, then who am I?"

 Quoting: Chaol


Although you bill yourself as a big, mean Destroyer, I have always found you to be very kind, both here on this forum and in other places. You have been tolerant of my cluelessness and I much appreciate that. You have given a lot to all of us.
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Not big and mean :)

Just a destroyer.

No different that how you COMPLETELY OBLITERATED what you call "yesterday".

That was a whole world just... gone.

Changing perspectives is what we do all the time without realizing it.

The idea is to do it more consciously. Thus, the dream world. Here, the nature of perspective is more readily seen so that we can see a connection between one perspective and the next.

I didn't know that I was so tolerant but I'll take it :) thank you
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You'll always have money.
 Quoting: Chaol


Money is a symbol for an energy exchange, right? The symbol could be anything: cowrie shells, stones, drugs...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


What happens when this energy is created in an abstract way with a few punches of the keyboard, without being tied to something else?

What is a representation when its potential energy has no limits, and is well beyond the limit of what the symbol can support?

...to the tune of USD $300 trillion over the past 4 years? (Much, much more than you have been told.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Does the symbol becomes useless disappears? Or does it just become green paper perfect for starting a BBQ.

Like removing octane from gas making it useless. Or adding water to milk nobody wants that.

What's the new symbol for money. Could it switch back to gold for a period in time and really fulfill Chaols $21k an ounce prediction.

So I ask again.

Are you sure you're ready for what you're about to see?
 Quoting: Chaol


Perspective is defiantly already there to begin with, no surprises.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


The real value of gold is about USD $20,000 an ounce.

Gold at whatever-it-is-today is a steal. The price you see is the price of paper gold, not physical gold.

All the gold in the world cannot fill a tennis court. But there's much, much, much more paper gold floating around.

Hyperinflation could happen overnight.

by the way.. adding water to milk is a big industry!
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Incidentally, speaking of the Sun and gold, I recall as a child the sun being golden. Nowadays, it is white.
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I recall that too! There used to be a time you could look into the sun (not too long obviously). That's impossible nowadays.
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1986:
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