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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
Chaol

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SpawnX. I am worried that your symbols already related to other things which you may not be aware of.
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explain;

what symbol would purely achieve desired reality related only to the reality I seek?

we are all still learning I hope to understand your idea but I don't know what you mean ATM.
 Quoting: SpawnX


In all of my genius trials, Chaol has stressed brand new symbol with no previous relations. Your symbol is linked to the 1 kilo gold bar that likely already has a certain value in your perspective.
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You can use a 'used' symbol, but you probably wouldn't like the result.

When people use symbols that already have values attached, I run the other way.
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09/27/2012 12:35 AM

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[snips] I've only see one post claiming to get the genius to work.

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Then you haven't read enough ;)

There are at least 15 such instances, documented here.
 Quoting: Chaol


Well now since I am in an alternate universe than before!

Of course there are at least 15 such instances, documented here.

back to readingcool2
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SpawnX. I am worried that your symbols already related to other things which you may not be aware of.
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explain;

what symbol would purely achieve desired reality related only to the reality I seek?

we are all still learning I hope to understand your idea but I don't know what you mean ATM.
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In all of my genius trials, Chaol has stressed brand new symbol with no previous relations. Your symbol is linked to the 1 kilo gold bar that likely already has a certain value in your perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


You can use a 'used' symbol, but you probably wouldn't like the result.

When people use symbols that already have values attached, I run the other way.
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Straight from the Destroyer.
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explain;

what symbol would purely achieve desired reality related only to the reality I seek?

we are all still learning I hope to understand your idea but I don't know what you mean ATM.
 Quoting: SpawnX


In all of my genius trials, Chaol has stressed brand new symbol with no previous relations. Your symbol is linked to the 1 kilo gold bar that likely already has a certain value in your perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


You can use a 'used' symbol, but you probably wouldn't like the result.

When people use symbols that already have values attached, I run the other way.
 Quoting: Chaol


Straight from the Destroyer.
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ya well that destroyed my symbol.. Throw me a bone here what symbol would fit the criteria of my genius plan with no value attached to it?

If i took a picture of a picture crazy
Visiting a gold dealer and taking a picture of a gold bar.

No flash photography allowed scratching
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In all of my genius trials, Chaol has stressed brand new symbol with no previous relations. Your symbol is linked to the 1 kilo gold bar that likely already has a certain value in your perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


You can use a 'used' symbol, but you probably wouldn't like the result.

When people use symbols that already have values attached, I run the other way.
 Quoting: Chaol


Straight from the Destroyer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


ya well that destroyed my symbol.. Throw me a bone here what symbol would fit the criteria of my genius plan with no value attached to it?

If i took a picture of a picture crazy
Visiting a gold dealer and taking a picture of a gold bar.

No flash photography allowed scratching
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A piece of blue Hubba Bubba gum with three toothpicks stuck in it.
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You can use a 'used' symbol, but you probably wouldn't like the result.

When people use symbols that already have values attached, I run the other way.
 Quoting: Chaol


Straight from the Destroyer.
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ya well that destroyed my symbol.. Throw me a bone here what symbol would fit the criteria of my genius plan with no value attached to it?

If i took a picture of a picture crazy
Visiting a gold dealer and taking a picture of a gold bar.

No flash photography allowed scratching
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A piece of blue Hubba Bubba gum with three toothpicks stuck in it.
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Genius!!!thumbs

well thanks i passed a road block your idea got through to me
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Hey forum

I want to start a group genius project.

ProjectX

1-Create symbol: Paper replica of 1 Kilo (32.15 oz) Gold Bar 999.9 [link to i.ebayimg.com]
Interaction: Gold bar paper replica locked in safe under bed. Key of the safe is kept in wallet/purse.

2-Find possibility: Gold dealer, eBay, backyard X marks the spot dig!

3-Interact:
Rule 1- Every night unlock safe rub the replica and visualize what wealth means to you. Lock safe return key to wallet/purse.
Rule 2- If someone physically speaks about gold in your perspective you will create another Paper replica of 1 Kilo (32.15 oz) Gold Bar 999.9, and add it in your safe.
Rule 3- Record the price of gold daily on the back of your replica(s).

5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.


If you can add, edit the genius plan can you post your version. I would like to see what symbols you perspectives come up with, possibilities, rules and structure. Then we can all work off each others ideas and create a final model of ProjectX.

Is adding to the symbol good to do like rule 3?
Rule 3- Record the price of gold daily on the back of your replica(s).

What can I put for 5-Structure?


Chaol do you observe this model of the genius efficient enough to shift into the desired reality. Any inputs? I've only see one post claiming to get the genius to work.

Who's in?
 Quoting: SpawnX


If I were to personally invest in gold, it would take the form of jewelry. I feel more comfortable when the value is distributed among multiple pieces that I can keep (without drawing attention) close to or on my person.

Sooo that said, should I begin wearing gold jewelry, or make new jewelry that isn't 'true' gold, but represents it? I would then apply all the other rules listed above.
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Straight from the Destroyer.
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ya well that destroyed my symbol.. Throw me a bone here what symbol would fit the criteria of my genius plan with no value attached to it?

If i took a picture of a picture crazy
Visiting a gold dealer and taking a picture of a gold bar.

No flash photography allowed scratching
 Quoting: SpawnX


A piece of blue Hubba Bubba gum with three toothpicks stuck in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


Genius!!!thumbs

well thanks i passed a road block your idea got through to me
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The new symbol is a surrogate until the relation are formed and then the logic is in place to relate with the desired value/symbol.
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If I were to personally invest in gold, it would take the form of jewelry. I feel more comfortable when the value is distributed among multiple pieces that I can keep (without drawing attention) close to or on my person.

Sooo that said, should I begin wearing gold jewelry, or make new jewelry that isn't 'true' gold, but represents it? I would then apply all the other rules listed above.
 Quoting: CatCarel


Real or 'fake' jewelry are 'used' symbol.

Run the other way.

Create a bubble-yum necklace pink of course!

[link to www.x-entertainment.com] naughty
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If I were to personally invest in gold, it would take the form of jewelry. I feel more comfortable when the value is distributed among multiple pieces that I can keep (without drawing attention) close to or on my person.

Sooo that said, should I begin wearing gold jewelry, or make new jewelry that isn't 'true' gold, but represents it? I would then apply all the other rules listed above.
 Quoting: CatCarel


Real or 'fake' jewelry are 'used' symbol.

Run the other way.

Create a bubble-yum necklace pink of course!

[link to www.x-entertainment.com] naughty
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actually don't create a necklace as it may be considered fake jewelry which has values attached
Chaol

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ya well that destroyed my symbol.. Throw me a bone here what symbol would fit the criteria of my genius plan with no value attached to it?

If i took a picture of a picture crazy
Visiting a gold dealer and taking a picture of a gold bar.

No flash photography allowed scratching
 Quoting: SpawnX


Why need your symbol be so obvious?

An obvious symbol comes with values already in place.

Any symbol would fit :)

...as long as you start tabula rasa.
Chaol

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Hey forum

I want to start a group genius project.

ProjectX

1-Create symbol: Paper replica of 1 Kilo (32.15 oz) Gold Bar 999.9 [link to i.ebayimg.com]
Interaction: Gold bar paper replica locked in safe under bed. Key of the safe is kept in wallet/purse.

2-Find possibility: Gold dealer, eBay, backyard X marks the spot dig!

3-Interact:
Rule 1- Every night unlock safe rub the replica and visualize what wealth means to you. Lock safe return key to wallet/purse.
Rule 2- If someone physically speaks about gold in your perspective you will create another Paper replica of 1 Kilo (32.15 oz) Gold Bar 999.9, and add it in your safe.
Rule 3- Record the price of gold daily on the back of your replica(s).

5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.


If you can add, edit the genius plan can you post your version. I would like to see what symbols you perspectives come up with, possibilities, rules and structure. Then we can all work off each others ideas and create a final model of ProjectX.

Is adding to the symbol good to do like rule 3?
Rule 3- Record the price of gold daily on the back of your replica(s).

What can I put for 5-Structure?


Chaol do you observe this model of the genius efficient enough to shift into the desired reality. Any inputs? I've only see one post claiming to get the genius to work.

Who's in?
 Quoting: SpawnX


If I were to personally invest in gold, it would take the form of jewelry. I feel more comfortable when the value is distributed among multiple pieces that I can keep (without drawing attention) close to or on my person.

Sooo that said, should I begin wearing gold jewelry, or make new jewelry that isn't 'true' gold, but represents it? I would then apply all the other rules listed above.
 Quoting: CatCarel


For it to work, most likely you wouldn't wear jewelry at all.

See beyond what you perceive it to be to find its value.
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The new symbol is a surrogate until the relation are formed and then the logic is in place to relate with the desired value/symbol.
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That's a good way of putting it. Thanks!
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If I were to personally invest in gold, it would take the form of jewelry. I feel more comfortable when the value is distributed among multiple pieces that I can keep (without drawing attention) close to or on my person.

Sooo that said, should I begin wearing gold jewelry, or make new jewelry that isn't 'true' gold, but represents it? I would then apply all the other rules listed above.
 Quoting: CatCarel


Real or 'fake' jewelry are 'used' symbol.

Run the other way.

Create a bubble-yum necklace pink of course!

[link to www.x-entertainment.com] naughty
 Quoting: SpawnX


Generally-speaking, if your intent is to 'create more gold in your experience' then you would do well not to use gold as your symbol.

This is telling the universe (for lack of better illustration), "Gold looks like this! And this is what I want in my perspective."

On the other hand you use a bubble-gum symbol proclaiming, "Gold has other values of which I am not aware. But here I am with my bubble gum gold, exploring the extent of what gold really is in my perspective."

For that, you are rewarded (so to speak) with the different values of gold.

It's like you have discovered the secret of "gold" as being not-gold but everything else.

So the relative values become more a part of your experience.

You experience more gold and more bubble gum gold, and more of everything surrounding your the new value of gold.

Hope this helps :)
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Here's an interesting post: Thread: Crustal Displacement! Pacific showing signs of folding/compressing plates! Connection proven between Indonesia & Alaska
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Hi Chaol,

Currently, what are the odds of a super volcano erupting within the next few days?
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Hi Chaol,

Currently, what are the odds of a super volcano erupting within the next few days?
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There are no odds.

(Different from, "1-in-a-million". It is not anywhere near the relevance of the next few days.)

But keep in mind that tremendous pressure has been building ever since Farpoint Station. It has not yet been released.
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Hi Chaol,

Currently, what are the odds of a super volcano erupting within the next few days?
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There are no odds.

(Different from, "1-in-a-million". It is not anywhere near the relevance of the next few days.)

But keep in mind that tremendous pressure has been building ever since Farpoint Station. It has not yet been released.
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Will the pressure be released by a way of an eruption before the end of this year?

Also can a genius mind symbol be placed at a different location other than where your 'body' is, or does it have to be kept on your self?

Would it still be getting an interaction is what I'm trying to say basically. And if so would it be more interacted with the seemingly busier the place and thus quicker to be brought into your perspective?
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Hi Chaol, what would be the effect of using a known representation for Genius? I would like to test it out for science but would like to know what to expect.
Thank you!
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Will the pressure be released by a way of an eruption before the end of this year?

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Most likely not. It will build into 2013.

Also can a genius mind symbol be placed at a different location other than where your 'body' is, or does it have to be kept on your self? Would it still be getting an interaction is what I'm trying to say basically.
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Sure. But the less relative it is to your perspective the less you'd experience the 'result'.

Your physical body is the most relative to you physically.

And if so would it be more interacted with the seemingly busier the place and thus quicker to be brought into your perspective?
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It does not matter how busy the place is.

What matters is the value of the interactions rather than the number of interactions. There are as many interactions in an empty room as there is in the same room filled with people.

The 'speed' at which something is brought into your perspective depends on how many logical steps there are between what you are experiencing now and that other experience.

The less steps, the less time (generally).

Hope this helps.
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Hi Chaol, what would be the effect of using a known representation for Genius? I would like to test it out for science but would like to know what to expect.
Thank you!
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It is difficult to predict.

But as a rule of thumb just expect the opposite of what you intend, sometimes brought about in ways that could not have been previously imagined.

If you try it for science please be sure to let us know what happens :)
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Chaol,

Could you tell us a bit about the nature of this particular nexus? Is it due to some celestial alignment, brown dwarf approaching, or such?

I've felt below zero energy. Just been dragging myself, waiting for a big change, lately. Zero enthusiasm or lust for life, much like "depression". Add to that the disappointing quasi-blimp-like event, for which I just could not gather excitement. Time to be proactive now.

Theme: get rid of stagnation under any form and disguise.

Now that the seemingly endless summer heat wave has passed, I feel compelled to start again with a practical approach. Especially with getting rid of clutter (change the geometry of relationships), where I sense resistance.

Then, the creation of new symbols.

The first symbol I created worked perfectly, then was gradually "forgotten" over the summer for the interaction part, and kind of fell apart [for those wondering, I've posted about it earlier in the thread, a wine cork with a curled metal wire as an antenna, and pink wool wrapped around it - abstract, not representing the actual thing/situation].

The second symbol half worked and the third one is forgotten on the shelf (but I know where I went wrong). So I want to recreate them from scratch.

I can't wait to report another success story with a properly done new symbol. :)

Soon, I will attempt more dream world visits. Once in a while, I find myself entering the library to meet you very briefly, but bypassing the Sekhmet portal. During waking daytime. Not sure it works.
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Hi Chaol, what would be the effect of using a known representation for Genius? I would like to test it out for science but would like to know what to expect.
Thank you!
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It is difficult to predict.

But as a rule of thumb just expect the opposite of what you intend, sometimes brought about in ways that could not have been previously imagined.

If you try it for science please be sure to let us know what happens :)
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hahaha thanks for answering. I will be getting back with the results.

I don't know why I find it a challenge making an enitrely new
representation that I can interact with.
Would using a representation of something entirely
different (for example, a book) be acceptable as a new representation? Or would the book need some straw or string tied to it to make it a valid new representation. Thanks for all your help again! peace
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Hi Chaol, what would be the effect of using a known representation for Genius? I would like to test it out for science but would like to know what to expect.
Thank you!
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It is difficult to predict.

But as a rule of thumb just expect the opposite of what you intend, sometimes brought about in ways that could not have been previously imagined.

If you try it for science please be sure to let us know what happens :)
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hahaha thanks for answering. I will be getting back with the results.

I don't know why I find it a challenge making an enitrely new
representation that I can interact with.
Would using a representation of something entirely
different (for example, a book) be acceptable as a new representation? Or would the book need some straw or string tied to it to make it a valid new representation. Thanks for all your help again! peace
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With regard to yesterday's Nexus - this organisation (Academy of Remote Viewing and Influencing Reality) released an uplifting spiritual message indicating that it was a very important day

[link to probablefuture.com]
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Hi Chaol, what would be the effect of using a known representation for Genius? I would like to test it out for science but would like to know what to expect.
Thank you!
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It is difficult to predict.

But as a rule of thumb just expect the opposite of what you intend, sometimes brought about in ways that could not have been previously imagined.

If you try it for science please be sure to let us know what happens :)
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Murphy's Law!
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Hey forum

I want to start a group genius project.

ProjectX

1-Create symbol: Paper replica of 1 Kilo (32.15 oz) Gold Bar 999.9 [link to i.ebayimg.com]
Interaction: Gold bar paper replica locked in safe under bed. Key of the safe is kept in wallet/purse.

 Quoting: SpawnX


Do you really want gold?
Usually gold is just used as a means to achieve or get something else.
Why do you want gold?
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The new symbol is a surrogate until the relation are formed and then the logic is in place to relate with the desired value/symbol.
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That's a good way of putting it. Thanks!
 Quoting: Chaol


I am here to help.
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So where's Chaol anyway?
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I am here, observing :)
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Hi chaol. Did the nexus have an effect?
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Any time that much energy comes together there are effects.

The direct physical representation appeared to be a series of earthquakes in Alaska.

However, the 'unseen' effects usually take about 2 days (3 at most) to manifest in the kind of physicality you experience.

So basically it's like eating something on Monday that takes 2 days to work itself in your body (perspective) and that would be a new part of your perspective on Wednesday.

This one is a bit strange. I don't exactly know what it is. But the last time it had the same 'appearance' was September 9, 2001.

(I'm not saying that something bad will happen. It's merely an observation of what you'd call energy.)

The more energy that comes together (such as in a nexus) the greater the possibility.

Beings from other perspectives, such as myself, use these to do our thing.
 Quoting: Chaol


Will the new psy op production have the same set of actors and TV fakery to arouse our emotions?

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