Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

I sense a relationship between the witchcraft episodes and what we are about to learn about BO in about 30 minutes.

Aha! I realized this morning you were observing. TY.

And I agree, we are doing quite well.



Edit: Whoa! You didn't answer the question I most wanted an answer to. You're a sly one, eh? ;o)

How do you explain those things "that just happened"? You told me this is how you met your gf.

I want to know your explanation of things that just happen, if you don't mind. And yes, I have a reason for wanting to know.

I just don't see death (in the traditional objective sense) as something that is subjectively possible.

A bit more advanced application of Ecsys, but it may have some value to you now...

[And here is the purpose of this post...]

There is also life and consciousness between other symbols. Everything that has a relationship with something else has this life and consciousness. It is as real and fully detailed as what you are experiencing now.

The floor on which you walk has a relationship with your leg, and you feel it's reality. It is a part of your life. But the floor also has relationships with other things, and this is just as real as is your leg.

You are surrounded not only by life but also by a force that you could call a living, breathing consciousness. It has intelligence, desires, and it communicates.

It is perspective.

If you communicate, so does everything else. In the same way that you are now communicating. Whatever you do or say or think is also expressed throughout the universe in the same way and to a degree that is relative to your perspective.

When you go to a restaurant, for example, your cat at home also goes to the same restaurant at the same time.

Did you order and eat pasta? Your watch has also ordered and ate pasta, because it is relative to your perspective. Even more than the cat because the watch rests on your arm and you don't see your cat. But, guess what? Your cat is also in the restaurant.

This is the real "holographic universe". It is a holographic universe not of bits and bytes of information but of perspective.

The Earth is going through the same thing that you are going through right now because there is no difference. Feeling giddy? You have just changed what scientists would call the quantum nature of the entire universe in a measurable way.

I implore you to figure out what this means for yourself. There is something profound that you can get from the above. You have only to squeeze the oranges. I will not post it here (or confirm or deny if any of you should mention its implications) because it is a highly resisted concept.

Enjoy :)

Can you provide an example of something that "just happens" and an other example of something that does not "just happen"?

To see nothing is really there would indicate you do not exist, no?

This is why I asked Chaol if he feels alone. He didn't answer that question.

This is my general viewpoint (all ways open to a new one:) ), too, K. How similar is this scenario you are referring to, Chaol?

Yes, what would a smart witch do?

You've realize an important aspect of the nature of perspective.

Only values in your perspective die (become more irrelevant).

You do not become irrelevant to yourself, and cannot experience death.

A bit more advanced application of Ecsys, but it may have some value to you now...

[First, some context...] Everything is a representation of something else in your perspective. We are not able to perceive beyond our own perspective and thus cannot perceive of the truth of something. Truth is beyond perception.

When you talk on the phone what you hear is a representation of the other person's voice. When you see them in person you are also experiencing a representation. You could say that your brain interprets signals and shows you something that isn't really there. But the signals that your brain perceives are also representations of something else.

When you look into the mirror you are not seeing yourself. In the same manner when you look at your hand you are not perceiving your hand directly, but interacting with representations.

Direct perception is impossible. We can perceive only of relationships rather than the real thing.

In this illusion we have life. We have what we call consciousness. But this life comes only from the relationships between the symbols.

[And here is the purpose of this post...]

There is also life and consciousness between other symbols. Everything that has a relationship with something else has this life and consciousness. It is as real and fully detailed as what you are experiencing now.

The floor on which you walk has a relationship with your leg, and you feel it's reality. It is a part of your life. But the floor also has relationships with other things, and this is just as real as is your leg.

You are surrounded not only by life but also by a force that you could call a living, breathing consciousness. It has intelligence, desires, and it communicates.

It is perspective.

If you communicate, so does everything else. In the same way that you are now communicating. Whatever you do or say or think is also expressed throughout the universe in the same way and to a degree that is relative to your perspective.

When you go to a restaurant, for example, your cat at home also goes to the same restaurant at the same time.

Did you order and eat pasta? Your watch has also ordered and ate pasta, because it is relative to your perspective. Even more than the cat because the watch rests on your arm and you don't see your cat. But, guess what? Your cat is also in the restaurant.

This is the real "holographic universe". It is a holographic universe not of bits and bytes of information but of perspective.

The Earth is going through the same thing that you are going through right now because there is no difference. Feeling giddy? You have just changed what scientists would call the quantum nature of the entire universe in a measurable way.

I implore you to figure out what this means for yourself. There is something profound that you can get from the above. You have only to squeeze the oranges. I will not post it here (or confirm or deny if any of you should mention its implications) because it is a highly resisted concept.

Enjoy :)

You do not become irrelevant to yourself, and cannot experience death.

Without being relevant to the experience, such a difficult time would be had.

So, considering that a perspective contains relative perceptions do you think an alien from 500 years in the future would be likely to be perceived as:

1) a humanoid figure.. obviously not-of-this-world

2) the strange man in 5C

If you guessed #3, you're right!

You have only to figure out how you are all ready moving through time's pace at will right now. It's more obvious than you think it is.

To travel through time, for example, you "bring the time to you".

Good to hear that it worked for you without realizing it, for your body shape.

Chaol,

Thank you for teaching us why the birth certificate is such an important symbol and the strange form of logic that applies to it.

No thanks, not interested. Prove that consciousness does not exist.

I see this now. Thank you. I understand wanting to be just a regular guy. I think you'll get that chance soon.

It's the relationships, it's the relationships!

We focus on relationships that produce our "goals." Now, if I can just get why that is....maybe I'll get it.

Chaol

In my perspectives I focused on getting a car and a job. The car I focused was a Camaro Z28, the car that became relative to my perspective was Firebird Trans AM WS6. Very much related to the Camaro same engine different body. The job I focused on was Google, the job that became relative to my perspective was Apple. Also very much related. Also I focused on a white Camaro and the WS6 is black.

If i focus of winning a "Jackpot" at a casino its very much related to winning the lottery. Making lottery irrelevant by focusing on jackpot might just make me a millionaire

Hi Chaol,

I just noticed you are posting right now. Thought I'd try to catch your comments on LeKing's program? You can click on the link above to get a peek.

I'm sure he and the rest of us would appreciate your input.

The logical pathway I use to conceptualize these ideas is through the symbol of energy, as if each consciousness is a mixture of many frequencies within an infinite sea of energy. Each frequency affects the infinite sea of energy by causing energy to resonate with that frequency. We can only perceive resonant frequencies, thereby seeing a reflection of ourselves. If we can change any frequency, the previous frequency would no longer be resonant and a new one would begin to be perceived. So we would have a cat frequency within our energy matrix causing a resonance within the energy field for the concept of cat. So if I resonate with the symbol of restaurant, the cat is with me because it is part of my energy matrix to begin with. I'm just choosing to have the restaurant symbol/energy become dominant or most relative in order to perceive it.

So every moment in time can be conceptualized as a still frame like in a movie. We are sitting in a vast, infinite sea of still frames of all possibilities. As we change the frequencies within our energy signature we attract a frame to us following the path of least resistance, the most logical/believable path. This happens so quickly, it appears as motion. Every moment we perceive one of these frames we process it and calculate the next logical moment, attracting it to us. If we purposefully decide to attract something to us, we would hold the frequency, symbol within, as in feel as if you already are it, then it would begin to resonate with the energy field and attract it to us. But the logical pathway we are following may continue for a bit before the symbol is perceived. So despite what is perceived, we must hold the frequency of the symbol, trust the pathway we are one is the one that attracts it to us.

The logical pathway I use to conceptualize these ideas is through the symbol of energy, as if each consciousness is a mixture of many frequencies within an infinite sea of energy. Each frequency affects the infinite sea of energy by causing energy to resonate with that frequency. We can only perceive resonant frequencies, thereby seeing a reflection of ourselves. If we can change any frequency, the previous frequency would no longer be resonant and a new one would begin to be perceived. So we would have a cat frequency within our energy matrix causing a resonance within the energy field for the concept of cat. So if I resonate with the symbol of restaurant, the cat is with me because it is part of my energy matrix to begin with. I'm just choosing to have the restaurant symbol/energy become dominant or most relative in order to perceive it.

So every moment in time can be conceptualized as a still frame like in a movie. We are sitting in a vast, infinite sea of still frames of all possibilities. As we change the frequencies within our energy signature we attract a frame to us following the path of least resistance, the most logical/believable path. This happens so quickly, it appears as motion. Every moment we perceive one of these frames we process it and calculate the next logical moment, attracting it to us. If we purposefully decide to attract something to us, we would hold the frequency, symbol within, as in feel as if you already are it, then it would begin to resonate with the energy field and attract it to us. But the logical pathway we are following may continue for a bit before the symbol is perceived. So despite what is perceived, we must hold the frequency of the symbol, trust the pathway we are one is the one that attracts it to us.

Just get why it is that we focus on the relationships?

What else is there to focus on?

The example you gave me is you said when you met your girlfriend, "it just happened." And no, I can't give the other example.

What I've been trying to find out from you is if you ever feel something influences your life besides you?

Do you feel there is a Benevolence that guides you at times?

I ask this because I surely have a lifetime of this. And I know you will probably say it's because I don't know how to interpret some things...which could be true. But, I don't think so.

Many times, things have happened, right before my eyes, where I was going one direction and "something happens", to change my course.

Basically, do you feel there is a Divine or Benevolent force in your life that guides you? Do you feel there is a Creator God? Do you feel you created yourself or you came from some kind of Source?

And don't worry about how I define any of this. I will use my intuition to read between the lines of whatever you say. I'm trying to get a picture into your world this way.

Thanks.

I've always thought and felt this, especially when I was a kid. It's weird, I learned and realized that I could be harmed through physical pain, but I always felt as if I was somehow 'invinceable' when it came to death...

Although I was in a pretty bad car accident a few years back and walked away fine even though the conditions were that which I could've died or at least been seriously injured. There was nothing to really remember, I like blacked out and just 'woke up' immediately after the impact. I've always thought about how randomly I could have 'died' and somehow just kept the show going.

If I were to approach a cliff my programming would give me the thought of falling to my death, but if I were to actually jump you're somehow saying I would survive? I get what you're saying, but I don't get it...

LOL!

I imagine people walk right by you and never see you.

This reminds me. I've been meaning to ask Chaol this question...or Marsh (or anyone), if you have some insight.

Chaol, are you aware of using symbols so you can create your body?

And this brings up another thought, even in our experience here, just how do we keep certain things, such as a body, the sun/moon, family, etc:, constant?

How did I decide to have a female body that went from infant, to teen to adult? Interesting to think about, eh?

That ^^^^. I know the website says we only know things in relation to other things. But, the example is a plane with space around it. How do we perceive the differences in space in the example?

[link to ecsys.org]

Thanks.

I see.. I forgot that I wrote that, so apologies for being confused by your question. I just meant that it fell into place. A couple of months after I came back to this world I had what you would call a premonition of her visage a few months prior. I went back to my (new) world and came back to this one specifically because of her. But I did not know that I would meet her. It was a good surprise, though.



This would be a bit difficult to explain, as it would be that everything influences my life.



No.



hehe.. no, I don't think I would say that. But we each have our own interpretations. None is more valid or true than an other.



I suppose you are asking if I believe in a god or divine something. But for me the question is irrelevant. It would not be a question of belief or disbelief because for me the concept is not defined.

But I suppose my "nothing" could be translated as "god". But in that way it is so true it is independent of perspective and, thus, could not possibly exist.

The way we define things surely affects our experience and the way we see things (and react to them).

In my world the people are as unique as in this one. We have different thoughts and beliefs, of course, and the majority of the population do not use Ecsys or neuronics.

We "act" less than those in this world, I would say. It is (in your world) in your past that whenever people are in public they would "act" and pretend to be someone else. This is probably the most noticeable difference (and the reason why I find it so interesting). Your world's acting has decreased significantly over the years but at an even faster pace in my world.

The picture that I paint of my world will be quite biased. But I can try.

Of course they do! At least, I hope :)

I stop and look into windows, step in mud accidentally, wait for the stoplights, and bump into people sometimes. It's all part of the fun.

I will refer additional questions about my person to my grandma Jezebel. She's better at answering those.



It's all one perspective. The sun and moon are not two symbols. It only appears that way from your perspective.

The plane only appears to be there because of its relationships to other things.

The conveyance here is that there is no plane, only things that have a relationship to the plane. It is this relationship that "creates" the plane.

Please let me know if I can clarify this a bit.

1) I really enjoyed reading this. Thank you. I am surprised most of the people in your world don't use neuronics. Are they aware of it?

One other thing about "things that happen." I have had nice surprises, such as finding this thread. And I got here through what I would call amazing circumstances, LOL!

I've also had what I didn't feel were nice surprises at the time, but after I got over it, realized it was the best thing that could have happened to me.

My interpretation is that someone or something is looking out for me since so many things have happened against my will.

2) Have you had things against your will happen?

3) So do you go back and forth between our worlds...in the same body?

Thank you.