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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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I know how to switch it. Thanks. I"m asking why disco instead of strobe? Chaol said to use a strobe light.
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My mistake. Use "strobe".
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Actually, I said Bud Light!

But seriously.. any will do. Some may have more results with strobe, others may prefer a different effect. Play around with it and see what works best for you.
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If you communicate, so does everything else. In the same way that you are now communicating. Whatever you do or say or think is also expressed throughout the universe in the same way and to a degree that is relative to your perspective.

 Quoting: Chaol


Noticed today how using communicating tools expresses throughout the universe. Shaping the universe in my perspective with communicating tools.

communicating tools = mental tools

Dream world perspectives use mental tools to manipulate their reality.

Be careful how you think; your life is shaped by your thoughts.
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In my world the people are as unique as in this one. We have different thoughts and beliefs, of course, and the majority of the population do not use Ecsys or neuronics.

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Sounds like my world
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I know how to switch it. Thanks. I"m asking why disco instead of strobe? Chaol said to use a strobe light.
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My mistake. Use "strobe".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Actually, I said Bud Light!

But seriously.. any will do. Some may have more results with strobe, others may prefer a different effect. Play around with it and see what works best for you.
 Quoting: Chaol





LOL! They have a new Bud Light with lime.

Okay, thanks every one. Glad we got that straight.
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I love "CHAOL" thread!!!!! smile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisschorus
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You are freaking me out, LOL! This is the second time now that you've come up with the exact thing I'm thinking about. Who are you? He, he!

Good stuff and I agree. I plan to use Nueronics to break up my programming, along with the strobe light. I've been breaking up programming for years but I"m ready for the quantum effect now.
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I love "CHAOL" thread!!!!! smile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisschorus
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Ditto...and everyone here too. I love having others in on learning this together.

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Once I figure out how to do this stuff, I'm going to see if I can get an island that's for sale in the Banana Coast, between Vancouver and Victoria Island. We can all just live there, heh! It's only $77 million. cool2
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He is right, metaphorically speaking. The whole vibration thing always makes me laugh. To be fair though, it is a good metaphor and easy to digest.

The other stuff he talks about is spot on. I appreciated that he went over the importance of the developmental years (pre "true" self awareness) before the critical faculty of the "conscious" mind is formed as a barrier protecting the subconscious from "other". Good stuff.

You have to wonder though, as an observer of others going through that same process, whether that is just the way we rationalize it. "If" we only exist now, then the past is created in the "memory" of it and the future is a "memory" of possible futures.

Perhaps it's just how we do it now.

As reality pushes forward, clicking into the next sequence of still frame, we may find such things far less relative.
Nothing is irrelevant.
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I love "CHAOL" thread!!!!! smile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisschorus
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Ditto...and everyone here too. I love having others in on learning this together.

Goofy Thum


Once I figure out how to do this stuff, I'm going to see if I can get an island that's for sale in the Banana Coast, between Vancouver and Victoria Island. We can all just live there, heh! It's only $77 million. cool2
 Quoting: Unit3


Until now, every time I set a plan to achieve something I believe is beyond my current perceived capability(I am limiting myself with "fear"), I render that goal less relative. It just seems to not matter anymore.

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Nothing is irrelevant.
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I love "CHAOL" thread!!!!! smile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisschorus
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1633800




Ditto...and everyone here too. I love having others in on learning this together.

Goofy Thum


Once I figure out how to do this stuff, I'm going to see if I can get an island that's for sale in the Banana Coast, between Vancouver and Victoria Island. We can all just live there, heh! It's only $77 million. cool2
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Until now, every time I set a plan to achieve something I believe is beyond my current perceived capability(I am limiting myself with "fear"), I render that goal less relative. It just seems to not matter anymore.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda





You got that right. Why limit ourselves any more? Been there, done that! Do you like islands? tounge


hf
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I love "CHAOL" thread!!!!! smile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisschorus
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Ditto...and everyone here too. I love having others in on learning this together.

Goofy Thum


Once I figure out how to do this stuff, I'm going to see if I can get an island that's for sale in the Banana Coast, between Vancouver and Victoria Island. We can all just live there, heh! It's only $77 million. cool2
 Quoting: Unit3


Until now, every time I set a plan to achieve something I believe is beyond my current perceived capability(I am limiting myself with "fear"), I render that goal less relative. It just seems to not matter anymore.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda





You got that right. Why limit ourselves any more? Been there, done that! Do you like islands? tounge


hf
 Quoting: Unit3


Island sound good! But I don't want cold weather I am perfectly happy where I am in pandhandle/gulf coast florida.
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 Quoting: LeKing


IMHO, an understanding of Ecsys is taking us beyond these notions of conscious/subconscious.

I like the video. I know what this fellow is saying. But, we are here on this thread learning that "consciousness" only results as the relationship between two (or more) things, thoughts, concepts, etc. If there is nothing to relate to, then there is no consciousness. There is no existence.

I think that what we have been calling our "subconscious" is more likely the relationships -- that is, the associations; the geometries -- of which we are unaware. I think these geometries are "stored" or are active just below our waking awareness, and that is why it is "subconscious".
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IMHO, an understanding of Ecsys is taking us beyond these notions of conscious/subconscious.

I like the video. I know what this fellow is saying. But, we are here on this thread learning that "consciousness" only results as the relationship between two (or more) things, thoughts, concepts, etc. If there is nothing to relate to, then there is no consciousness. There is no existence.

I think that what we have been calling our "subconscious" is more likely the relationships -- that is, the associations; the geometries -- of which we are unaware. I think these geometries are "stored" or are active just below our waking awareness, and that is why it is "subconscious".
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Really well put. I believe you're right.
Nothing is irrelevant.
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I have some shocking news for you all. Everything in this universe is related to me. I am the link that bonds it all. If I were to 'die' none of you would exist in this universe anymore.
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I have some shocking news for you all. Everything in this universe is related to me. I am the link that bonds it all. If I were to 'die' none of you would exist in this universe anymore.
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So, it's you! Release us!
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I have some shocking news for you all. Everything in this universe is related to me. I am the link that bonds it all. If I were to 'die' none of you would exist in this universe anymore.
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The example you gave me is you said when you met your girlfriend, "it just happened." And no, I can't give the other example.

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I see.. I forgot that I wrote that, so apologies for being confused by your question. I just meant that it fell into place. A couple of months after I came back to this world I had what you would call a premonition of her visage a few months prior. I went back to my (new) world and came back to this one specifically because of her. But I did not know that I would meet her. It was a good surprise, though.

What I've been trying to find out from you is if you ever feel something influences your life besides you?
 Quoting: Unit3


This would be a bit difficult to explain, as it would be that everything influences my life.

Do you feel there is a Benevolence that guides you at times?
 Quoting: Unit3


No.

I ask this because I surely have a lifetime of this. And I know you will probably say it's because I don't know how to interpret some things...which could be true. But, I don't think so.

 Quoting: Unit3


hehe.. no, I don't think I would say that. But we each have our own interpretations. None is more valid or true than an other.

Many times, things have happened, right before my eyes, where I was going one direction and "something happens", to change my course.

Basically, do you feel there is a Divine or Benevolent force in your life that guides you? Do you feel there is a Creator God? Do you feel you created yourself or you came from some kind of Source?

And don't worry about how I define any of this. I will use my intuition to read between the lines of whatever you say. I'm trying to get a picture into your world this way.

Thanks.
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I suppose you are asking if I believe in a god or divine something. But for me the question is irrelevant. It would not be a question of belief or disbelief because for me the concept is not defined.

But I suppose my "nothing" could be translated as "god". But in that way it is so true it is independent of perspective and, thus, could not possibly exist.

The way we define things surely affects our experience and the way we see things (and react to them).

In my world the people are as unique as in this one. We have different thoughts and beliefs, of course, and the majority of the population do not use Ecsys or neuronics.

We "act" less than those in this world, I would say. It is (in your world) in your past that whenever people are in public they would "act" and pretend to be someone else. This is probably the most noticeable difference (and the reason why I find it so interesting). Your world's acting has decreased significantly over the years but at an even faster pace in my world.

The picture that I paint of my world will be quite biased. But I can try.
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Chaol,

Could premonitions be in the form of dreams?

How does ecsys define them?
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I have some shocking news for you all. Everything in this universe is related to me. I am the link that bonds it all. If I were to 'die' none of you would exist in this universe anymore.
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Correct.
Nothing is irrelevant.
Chaol

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Chaol,

Could premonitions be in the form of dreams?

How does ecsys define them?
 Quoting: CatCarel


Hi.

It would be defined as, "Everything is a value in the current perspective."

All that exists is extant here and now, in some way.

All time and space, a value in your now and here.

Those that are least relative (for now) are usually referred to as far away in space or time. More relative, closer.

A premonition is simply perceiving what is all ready here in a "partial" way. The event on November 16 and 27, for example, may be perfectly represented by the new angle of the television on the console and its relationship to everything around it. When you perceive this relationship in a different way you have a 'premonition' and not really know where it came from. But it was all ready there.

It could be any relationship of any physical or non-physical thing. (Though as I've stated before thoughts and dreams are also physical, as are light, sound, etc.)
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This thread is turning into a cult. Interesting to watch you make this Thai boy your L. Ron Hubbard, yet also scary.
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But I thought the "L" in Ron Hubbard was for love?
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You've given me a good one to do a Tarot read on. Him and Jack Parsons.

I've done some for you and they were interesting. ;)
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It wasn't in my plans, nor his. He was arrested and put in jail.
 Quoting: Unit3


(Again, I don't mean to sound like a smart ass. I think there may be something in it for others reading.)

If you went outside to walk to the bakery, and on the way unexpectedly met an old friend, do you feel that meeting your friend would be against your will since you did not plan it?
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Chaol, why don't you take those posts out? It was a lovely conversation but it's over now. It doesn't have to stay public property. Personally, I forgot we are in a public forum but I thank you for it. I really enjoyed it.
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It's okay as is. Not too much, not too little :)
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This is what I see. A tunnel of sorts.
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It's a good start.
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I really respect what you are doing Chaol. I love it.

Your most recent qualities, or what is at the deepest level of your subconcious, currently, and the way you see yourself, and your hopes or fears are the following, respectively:

Dominion:
[link to www.corax.com]

Knight of Wands:
[link to www.corax.com]

The Magus (or Magician):
[link to www.corax.com]

Anyone that disbelieves you, is in for a rude awakening (or not.) ;)
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Every post you make feels like a drop of water in the desert!
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Pray thee I've not sprung a leak!

Hopefully we can move on greater torrents of understanding once we move beyond the language barriers.

Chaol, then, what are we?
 Quoting: miqq


Do you reaaaally need to know? Or are you curious?

Isn't the fun in the mystery of it all?

What make us us and not other thing?
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Why are you not also that something else?

When you think of 'where' you are, what do you think about? Most people feel they are in their head, because that's where their eyes are.

But do you also perceive from your hands? Not as much, even though you have a sense of touch.

So what separates your hand from the keyboard? "You" from "something else"?

One is mobile and relevant on a more constant basis. The other is transient and dynamic.

If the keyboard became much more relevant to you then you'd find a way to work it in your logical narrative the way some people have heart transplants or inject devices under their skin.

The difference is what is relevant and what is not-so-relevant.

But it's all "you".

What are we missing that we don't get the bigger picture?
 Quoting: miqq


That there is no bigger picture. All of it is here all ready for you.

Chaol, few weeks back I got banned several times for posting on a thread of someone who claimed that there was a advanced civilization living under antarctic ice. That user was permanent banned but I could find him on another forum. Where can we contact you if you get banned?
 Quoting: miqq


hehe.. yes, that kind of story never seems to die. If I get banned from posting then just be patient :)
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The script is quite simple. To change color from blue to indigo you have to change #0000ff to #4B0082 (I have changed it)
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 Quoting: miqq


Something around #9037E9 may work well, too.

Green: 55
Red: 144
Blue: 233

Also, a variation in the strobe frequency (constant, but trial at different frequencies)
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Chaol,

Could premonitions be in the form of dreams?

How does ecsys define them?
 Quoting: CatCarel


Hi.

It would be defined as, "Everything is a value in the current perspective."

All that exists is extant here and now, in some way.

All time and space, a value in your now and here.

Those that are least relative (for now) are usually referred to as far away in space or time. More relative, closer.

A premonition is simply perceiving what is all ready here in a "partial" way. The event on November 16 and 27, for example, may be perfectly represented by the new angle of the television on the console and its relationship to everything around it. When you perceive this relationship in a different way you have a 'premonition' and not really know where it came from. But it was all ready there.

It could be any relationship of any physical or non-physical thing. (Though as I've stated before thoughts and dreams are also physical, as are light, sound, etc.)
 Quoting: Chaol


I was referring more to whether a premonition is a symbol, interaction, or potential. If that makes sense.
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Noticed today how using communicating tools expresses throughout the universe. Shaping the universe in my perspective with communicating tools.

communicating tools = mental tools

Dream world perspectives use mental tools to manipulate their reality.

Be careful how you think; your life is shaped by your thoughts.
 Quoting: SpawnX


Using symbols to perceive symbols.

hmm... what if they are the same?

What if our perspective is shaped from the languages we use?
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What's the use of strobe lights? I didn't get it.

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