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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Went to look at the car and had a great time talking about old cars with the seller; a really nice guy who took the time showing the Peugeot to us. He hoped to finish the car himself, which is taken apart and in the stage of being rebuilt, but complete. He reckons that he as an experienced non-professional would need another 4 years plus a few thousand euros to get it on the road...
In the course of our visit he threw in a few other extra parts, books, and his advice in the offer if we'd decide to buy... Which he asked us to think through well, but he wanted us to let him know within a week or so.

Now I try to make a symbol for it. Would that scarab bead work? My idea is to wind some thread through it's hole, and stick a colorfoul piece of felt or string through it each morning (or evening). Sounds ok?
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Makes perfect sense that we can perceive at a speed faster than light, at least on the meta level. So we use ecsys to program reality on the meta level? Is that what we are doing Chaol?
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Hi, Unit3. Your dream is affecting my dream. Now I am seeing stuff about islands. Funny how that works.

The Call of the Castaway
Scores of private islands are for sale off the North American coast, with prices down 25% from their peak
[link to finance.yahoo.com]
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Hi, Unit3. Your dream is affecting my dream. Now I am seeing stuff about islands. Funny how that works.

The Call of the Castaway
Scores of private islands are for sale off the North American coast, with prices down 25% from their peak
[link to finance.yahoo.com]
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It is funny. I sort of hoped my dream would affect others here because I'd love for some of us to live around each other. You know, whoever wants to. But now, I'm thinking coastal areas aren't a good idea for us for the next few years. Those areas are affected first as earth changes happen.

My dream seems to have affected my sister too. She just signed a contract about a week ago on a house that she loved. She called the other day and said she broke the contract. All of us were shocked. My sis said she went to look at the house one more time and saw a bunch of things she hadn't noticed before and didn't want the house any more. So she broke the contract!

My mother's comment about this was: "She sure saw something different this last time she went to look at the house." I just kinda smiled, while inside I was shocked, LOL! Made me go hmmmmmmmm!

Anyway, thanks for the link. Those are nice. If you haven't run across Dubai yet, take a look. They have hired Dutch architects to build artificial islands that are amazing. Dubai is sinking and the Dutch feel they have conquered the sea. They sunk the Netherlands during a war to defeat the enemy. (Spanish i think) Anyway, Dubai hired them to build some artificial islands:

This link is a concept, floating city planned for Dubai
[link to www.xenomed.com]

This link is where Dubai is actually selling homes on the islands. The Dutch plan an under the ocean golf course too!
[link to www.theweek.co.uk]

Here's a cool concept, eco, floating home
[link to inhabitat.com]

This company is working on concept floating cities that they want to be free from any government today!
[link to www.seasteading.org]

Those links were in my history. Thought I'd share them.

And here's a home (not floating but interesting)The Japanese built it and it runs on a car battery:
[link to inhabitat.com]

There are several concept island cities on the net. Also, a concept, high-tech, floating house is for sale in the UK, but during Hurricane Sandy, I learned boats leave harbor and go to sea when the weather is bad. It's easier for them to manage that kind of weather out in the sea, so a houseboat isn't safe during violent weather.

I'm now re-thinking my dream and don't really know where to go. I just know I'm going somewhere, at least that's the way it will seem to me. I'm guess I'm not actually going anywhere. 1dunno1

Edit: I've been getting rid of stuff for 3 years and packed for 2 years!!!!! Got my passport a couple of months ago!

I've recently been invited to The Netherlands and Norway, but don't know if that's where I want to go. I feel like my move is soon though, like even next month. I just need to know where.

So, not only am I changing my goal, I don't even know for sure what one of my goals is. blink

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I just read this about EC in Chaol's other thread:

Thread: Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality) (Page 4)

"Hi.

There are no symbol outputs because the whole process is a symbol output, per Ecsys Prime (near the bottom of the Ecsys home page):

Symbol = logic(possibility2-possibility)+interaction

You're not outputting a reality. You're influencing the relationships that allow you to perceive the reality.

However, Ec is more for changing how you perceive reality, like mapping new neuronal pathways in your brain.

You can get to a very specific perception using Ec but that's quite an advanced use. It would be similar to teleportation (though it is not really) and using Ec as both the programming language and the address to where you're going.

The best way for now is to use the Genius if you want specific perceptions to 'materialize'.

For example: We can use the Genius to materialize a glass of milk in your reality. We can use Ec to experience one of an endless variety of ~(glassess)~(of)~(milk) because we are exploring glass/of/milk possibilities."

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TY Unit3.

I saw a really interesting video on the double slit delayed choice quantum eraser. It does a great job of describing how that which is perceived is rendered by the perceiver. I believe the meta information is where the ecsys language comes into play.
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TY Unit3.

I saw a really interesting video on the double slit delayed choice quantum eraser. It does a great job of describing how that which is perceived is rendered by the perceiver. I believe the meta information is where the ecsys language comes into play.
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Sounds very interesting. Do you happen to have a link to that video?
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TY Unit3.

I saw a really interesting video on the double slit delayed choice quantum eraser. It does a great job of describing how that which is perceived is rendered by the perceiver. I believe the meta information is where the ecsys language comes into play.
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Sounds very interesting. Do you happen to have a link to that video?
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Thread: Quantum Physics 101 - Double Slit Experiment
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TY Unit3.

I saw a really interesting video on the double slit delayed choice quantum eraser. It does a great job of describing how that which is perceived is rendered by the perceiver. I believe the meta information is where the ecsys language comes into play.
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Sounds very interesting. Do you happen to have a link to that video?
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Thread: Quantum Physics 101 - Double Slit Experiment
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Search Tom campbell an my big toe. Lots of info very relevant to ecsys I believe.
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That was an amazing video. Thanks. I don't quite understand how the first proton waits on the second, though. Is it once it's perceived that it knows where to go?

Btw, Tom C. is answering questions on YT, or at least a week ago he was. (In case you're interested.)

Not only do we need Ecsys but I think the strobe/chill light is important too. It's a very interesting experience every time. Which reminds me, I am going to sign off for this evening. Time to chill out.

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That was an amazing video. Thanks. I don't quite understand how the first proton waits on the second, though. Is it once it's perceived that it knows where to go?

Btw, Tom C. is answering questions on YT, or at least a week ago he was. (In case you're interested.)

Not only do we need Ecsys but I think the strobe/chill light is important too. It's a very interesting experience every time. Which reminds me, I am going to sign off for this evening. Time to chill out.

Goofy Thum
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The simple experiment proves that our current understanding of how things work is inadequate, as in we have no real clue. Things appear to be able to change forward and backward in what we call time.


When you do the strobe do you use moodlight.org? What setting do you use for the balls? Are they all the same color or some indigo and some black?
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That was an amazing video. Thanks. I don't quite understand how the first proton waits on the second, though. Is it once it's perceived that it knows where to go?

Btw, Tom C. is answering questions on YT, or at least a week ago he was. (In case you're interested.)

Not only do we need Ecsys but I think the strobe/chill light is important too. It's a very interesting experience every time. Which reminds me, I am going to sign off for this evening. Time to chill out.

Goofy Thum
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The simple experiment proves that our current understanding of how things work is inadequate, as in we have no real clue. Things appear to be able to change forward and backward in what we call time.


When you do the strobe do you use moodlight.org? What setting do you use for the balls? Are they all the same color or some indigo and some black?
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Thanks for the explanation.

Yes, I use moodlight. I set it between 22-25. I do all the balls variations of the darker blues. I don't use any black but I might experiment with it.

I also often use some of the hour long binaural beats vid. on YT. Here's one I used last night and I use different ones.



[link to youtu.be]
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Went to look at the car and had a great time talking about old cars with the seller; a really nice guy who took the time showing the Peugeot to us. He hoped to finish the car himself, which is taken apart and in the stage of being rebuilt, but complete. He reckons that he as an experienced non-professional would need another 4 years plus a few thousand euros to get it on the road...
In the course of our visit he threw in a few other extra parts, books, and his advice in the offer if we'd decide to buy... Which he asked us to think through well, but he wanted us to let him know within a week or so.

Now I try to make a symbol for it. Would that scarab bead work? My idea is to wind some thread through it's hole, and stick a colorfoul piece of felt or string through it each morning (or evening). Sounds ok?
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Hi.

What would represent your interactive element?

Also, do you have a toy car?
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Makes perfect sense that we can perceive at a speed faster than light, at least on the meta level. So we use ecsys to program reality on the meta level? Is that what we are doing Chaol?
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The speed of light is the speed of physical perception.

Reality is not programmed.

You have perspective.
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I just read this about EC in Chaol's other thread:

Thread: Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality) (Page 4)

"Hi.

There are no symbol outputs because the whole process is a symbol output, per Ecsys Prime (near the bottom of the Ecsys home page):

Symbol = logic(possibility2-possibility)+interaction

You're not outputting a reality. You're influencing the relationships that allow you to perceive the reality.

However, Ec is more for changing how you perceive reality, like mapping new neuronal pathways in your brain.

You can get to a very specific perception using Ec but that's quite an advanced use. It would be similar to teleportation (though it is not really) and using Ec as both the programming language and the address to where you're going.

The best way for now is to use the Genius if you want specific perceptions to 'materialize'.

For example: We can use the Genius to materialize a glass of milk in your reality. We can use Ec to experience one of an endless variety of ~(glassess)~(of)~(milk) because we are exploring glass/of/milk possibilities."
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Thanks for the quote :)
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TY Unit3.

I saw a really interesting video on the double slit delayed choice quantum eraser. It does a great job of describing how that which is perceived is rendered by the perceiver. I believe the meta information is where the ecsys language comes into play.
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Of course, the experiment exists only in theory ;)

...until you are performing the experiment yourself. (i.e., until it is a direct value in your perspective)

Photons and such exist only when they need to.

The video shows the result of the experiment. However, the reality that the video illustrates exists only in the experiment.

Those are pretty obvious omissions from their hypotheses but it will be some time before they apply quantum physics to itself.

The next level of understanding for them, perhaps. (And one which is an "of course!" moment for them.)
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A double slit experiment for the mind...

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Neither did, as both are one should we go back far enough.

Let's call this "chegg".

Chegg, much like our androgynous ancestors who know neither male nor female, reproduces asexually. It need not find an other of its kind with which to mate, as it can manage the entire process by itself.

In chegg's time, the chicken and egg are probabilities that have a 'reality' in the here and now.

The egg is a probability in the chicken, and vice versa.

We are probabilities of our asexual ancestors, and vice versa. (We will also 'become' this again in future.)

We developed into "male" and "female" as a result of a narrative that also produces just about everything under our species' sun, from music to atoms. Some of our androgynous ancestors took on qualities that eventually evolve into our idea of "male", some took on other qualities that evolve into our idea of "female".

The wave–particle duality is not only a phenomena in quantum physics but is an aspect of time itself (rather, your perception of it).

If you go 'back' or 'forward' far enough in time the results of the experiment would be completely different, as the result is dictated by our perspective of time.

A little confusing, perhaps, but interesting to think about.

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A double slit experiment for the mind...

If you go 'back' or 'forward' far enough in time the results of the experiment would be completely different, as the result is dictated by our perspective of time.

A little confusing, perhaps, but interesting to think about.
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Not that confusing really. Thanks.
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Went to look at the car and had a great time talking about old cars with the seller; a really nice guy who took the time showing the Peugeot to us. He hoped to finish the car himself, which is taken apart and in the stage of being rebuilt, but complete. He reckons that he as an experienced non-professional would need another 4 years plus a few thousand euros to get it on the road...
In the course of our visit he threw in a few other extra parts, books, and his advice in the offer if we'd decide to buy... Which he asked us to think through well, but he wanted us to let him know within a week or so.

Now I try to make a symbol for it. Would that scarab bead work? My idea is to wind some thread through it's hole, and stick a colorfoul piece of felt or string through it each morning (or evening). Sounds ok?
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Hi.

What would represent your interactive element?
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I thought it would be the piece of felt I add each day...

Also, do you have a toy car?
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
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Chaol,

It's time to give us a few more breadcrumbs as to why Obama was elected. Thank you.
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& here you are now on GLP..okaay

would 'now' be a a chaon element??or what what
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This is somewhat like a class and Chaol you are the professor.
This would be the first time I've ever asked such a question but, can you come up with some assignments (homework) in regards to using EC and/or the Genius?
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Also, do you have a toy car?
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
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Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
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Hi.

What would represent your interactive element?
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I thought it would be the piece of felt I add each day...

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The would be a logical element.

An interactive element is a way for the symbol to interact with your environment.

See step 4 here: [link to ecsys.org]
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Hi.

What would represent your interactive element?
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I thought it would be the piece of felt I add each day...

 Quoting: tuuuuur


The would be a logical element.

An interactive element is a way for the symbol to interact with your environment.

See step 4 here: [link to ecsys.org]
 Quoting: Chaol





I showed my lottery ticket (symbol of wealth) to 2 barking dogs today. I had it with me, the dogs were barking, so I thought, why not?
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Chaol,

It's time to give us a few more breadcrumbs as to why Obama was elected. Thank you.
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To bring about conditions that facilitate further the destruction of Western civilization, from finance and banking, to Fukushima, to the "adjustment" of the Gulf Stream, social tension, and beyond.

There are other reasons, but that's enough for now.
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& here you are now on GLP..okaay

would 'now' be a a chaon element??or what what
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"Now" does not really exist if we are to say that past and future are separate from it.

Past and future are values in the "now".

There is nothing besides now, though we do not actually experience it.

We experience a perspective that can be represented, whereas "now" is without representation.

So you could say that you can only experience something that does not exist ;)

hope this isn't confusing
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Hey Chaol where does the philosophers stone(red/white) fit into all of this? Sounds like it will be a contributor the great change in my opinion.

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