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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Chaol,

It's time to give us a few more breadcrumbs as to why Obama was elected. Thank you.
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To bring about conditions that facilitate further the destruction of Western civilization, from finance and banking, to Fukushima, to the "adjustment" of the Gulf Stream, social tension, and beyond.

There are other reasons, but that's enough for now.
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Looks like your plan is working fine.
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This is somewhat like a class and Chaol you are the professor.
This would be the first time I've ever asked such a question but, can you come up with some assignments (homework) in regards to using EC and/or the Genius?
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funny.. I don't see myself as a professor.

This is like a new type of class and MajorMan you are the teacher.

The teacher teaches someone else and, thus, the teacher can learn it. The students are teachers, and the teachers are students.

Can you come up with some assignments for your class in regards to using Ecsys?
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How are things with you Chaol? Is there any way we can help you?
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How are things with you Chaol? Is there any way we can help you?
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You mentioned the Nov 2nd mutant monster was a bit of a unique nexus. Did it turn out the way you expected?
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This is somewhat like a class and Chaol you are the professor.
This would be the first time I've ever asked such a question but, can you come up with some assignments (homework) in regards to using EC and/or the Genius?
 Quoting: (MaJorMan)


funny.. I don't see myself as a professor.

This is like a new type of class and MajorMan you are the teacher.

The teacher teaches someone else and, thus, the teacher can learn it. The students are teachers, and the teachers are students.

Can you come up with some assignments for your class in regards to using Ecsys?
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How about a joint Genius exercise, along the lines of the 'dream thread' exercise, where all who wish can participate, perhaps with a shared outcome in mind? Would that be possible Chaol?
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Chaol,

It's time to give us a few more breadcrumbs as to why Obama was elected. Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


To bring about conditions that facilitate further the destruction of Western civilization, from finance and banking, to Fukushima, to the "adjustment" of the Gulf Stream, social tension, and beyond.

There are other reasons, but that's enough for now.
 Quoting: Chaol


Looks like your plan is working fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


It's quite a natural process. But this time I get to be an essential member of the crew.
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Chaol,

It's time to give us a few more breadcrumbs as to why Obama was elected. Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


To bring about conditions that facilitate further the destruction of Western civilization, from finance and banking, to Fukushima, to the "adjustment" of the Gulf Stream, social tension, and beyond.

There are other reasons, but that's enough for now.
 Quoting: Chaol


Looks like your plan is working fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


It's quite a natural process. But this time I get to be an essential member of the crew.
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As opposed to being one of the actors?
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I showed my lottery ticket (symbol of wealth) to 2 barking dogs today. I had it with me, the dogs were barking, so I thought, why not?
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if it's part of a singular formula, it may work more to your liking ;)

meaning, you create the 1, 2, 3, 5 elements at once and go through them consistently.

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Hey Chaol where does the philosophers stone(red/white) fit into all of this? Sounds like it will be a contributor the great change in my opinion.
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What is that?
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How are things with you Chaol? Is there any way we can help you?
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You are all ready helping me :)

You are my teacher!

It would be difficult to help when we would not share the same purpose.

What I am doing I am doing because I want to be with the woman that I love.
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How are things with you Chaol? Is there any way we can help you?
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You mentioned the Nov 2nd mutant monster was a bit of a unique nexus. Did it turn out the way you expected?
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No expectations, but it is indeed a monster of sorts.

These are somewhat uncharted territories, and I think the kraken has awoken. If not the kraken then his big brother.

What hath Glaucus wrought?
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How about a joint Genius exercise, along the lines of the 'dream thread' exercise, where all who wish can participate, perhaps with a shared outcome in mind? Would that be possible Chaol?
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Sure, go for it. Thanks for taking the lead!

My only help would be that November 17th would be a good date to focus on.

I will observe and see how my teachers are doing :)
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To bring about conditions that facilitate further the destruction of Western civilization, from finance and banking, to Fukushima, to the "adjustment" of the Gulf Stream, social tension, and beyond.

There are other reasons, but that's enough for now.
 Quoting: Chaol


Looks like your plan is working fine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


It's quite a natural process. But this time I get to be an essential member of the crew.
 Quoting: Chaol


As opposed to being one of the actors?
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Not real difference other than knowing a role is being played.
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Hey Chaol where does the philosophers stone(red/white) fit into all of this? Sounds like it will be a contributor the great change in my opinion.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


What is that?
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No use explaining here, no one here seems familiar with alchemy. ha ha

Another question, If the left hemisphere of the brain brings the chaos into order through singular perspective, and the right transforming order into chaos through infinite possibility by inter-action. What is the result when the two are in sync?
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Hey Chaol where does the philosophers stone(red/white) fit into all of this? Sounds like it will be a contributor the great change in my opinion.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


What is that?
 Quoting: Chaol


No use explaining here, no one here seems familiar with alchemy. ha ha

 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


Sometimes we ask questions because defining it for yourself will help you to obviate the answer.

Another question, If the left hemisphere of the brain brings the chaos into order through singular perspective, and the right transforming order into chaos through infinite possibility by inter-action. What is the result when the two are in sync?
 Quoting: Chaol


The Chaol response would be that the left and right do not have pre-assigned roles.

The hemispheres of the brain are more like tints in perspective much the same way that leaves on a tree usually have a top and bottom. The leaves are not fulfilling a role or doing their pre-assigned duty but it's the most efficient way for you to perceive that particular value.

(The more efficient it is the more absolute it seems, I think.)

A singular perspective is never achieved. You could say that what seems to be a singular perspective is comprised of a variety of individual perspectives working together.

Both the right and the left perform the same functions but only one "waiter" delivers your meal, so to speak. It is usually the one that took your order in the beginning, because the taking and delivery are two ways to perceive the same thing.

The two hemispheres of the brain only seem to have separate functionality from the perspective that experiences the separation, the same way that "top" is always on top to you even though (in the big scheme of things, in space for example) top is irrelevant.

So basically both sides do the same job. They are one and the same. But when the left performs a function that you think the right should perform it is perceived in a different way because you have chosen to divide that particular value (physical mind) into easier-to-experience parts.

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Hey Chaol where does the philosophers stone(red/white) fit into all of this? Sounds like it will be a contributor the great change in my opinion.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


What is that?
 Quoting: Chaol


No use explaining here, no one here seems familiar with alchemy. ha ha

 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


Sometimes we ask questions because defining it for yourself will help to clarify the answer.

Another question, If the left hemisphere of the brain brings the chaos into order through singular perspective, and the right transforming order into chaos through infinite possibility by inter-action. What is the result when the two are in sync?
 Quoting: Chaol


The Chaol response would be that the left and right do not have pre-assigned roles.

The hemispheres of the brain are more like tints in perspective much the same way that leaves on a tree usually have a top and bottom. The leaves are not fulfilling a role or doing their pre-assigned duty but it's the most efficient way for you to perceive that particular value.

(The more efficient it is the more absolute it seems, I think.)

A singular perspective is never achieved. You could say that what seems to be a singular perspective is comprised of a variety of individual perspectives working together.

Both the right and the left perform the same functions but only one "waiter" delivers your meal, so to speak. It is usually the one that took your order in the beginning, because the taking and delivery are two ways to perceive the same thing.

The two hemispheres of the brain only seem to have separate functionality from the perspective that experiences the separation, the same way that "top" is always on top to you even though (in the big scheme of things, in space for example) top is irrelevant.

So basically both sides do the same job. They are one and the same. But when the left performs a function that you think the right should perform it is perceived in a different way because you have chosen to divide that particular value (physical mind) into easier-to-experience parts.
 Quoting: Chaol


Alchemy is the art of imitating and accelerating nature. Philosophers Stone is a substance(powder) that transmutes other substances into a their perfect state. There are two versions of the Philosophers Stone, which is the white stone and the red stone. The white(moon;female) transmutes any metals into silver. And the red(sun;male) into gold. The Stone is simply a concentrated and highly developed
form of energy, which is the true nourishment of all things that grow(mineral, plant, animal). It is the universal medicine for the mind, body, and spirit. Unlimited life-energy. I could go on, but I think you get the just.

I will respond about the brain in a second lol


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The Chaol response would be that the left and right do not have pre-assigned roles.

The hemispheres of the brain are more like tints in perspective much the same way that leaves on a tree usually have a top and bottom. The leaves are not fulfilling a role or doing their pre-assigned duty but it's the most efficient way for you to perceive that particular value.

(The more efficient it is the more absolute it seems, I think.)

A singular perspective is never achieved. You could say that what seems to be a singular perspective is comprised of a variety of individual perspectives working together.

Both the right and the left perform the same functions but only one "waiter" delivers your meal, so to speak. It is usually the one that took your order in the beginning, because the taking and delivery are two ways to perceive the same thing.

The two hemispheres of the brain only seem to have separate functionality from the perspective that experiences the separation, the same way that "top" is always on top to you even though (in the big scheme of things, in space for example) top is irrelevant.

So basically both sides do the same job. They are one and the same. But when the left performs a function that you think the right should perform it is perceived in a different way because you have chosen to divide that particular value (physical mind) into easier-to-experience parts.
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes I understand they do the same job. But each side does it's job in 2 totally different ways. Opposite in fact. Words vs Images. You are trying to explain to a person what A tornado is. But they speak a different language? You would communicate by imagery. Drawing, hand gestures. Now imagine that you both speak the same language, but instead you call it a twister. The other person thinks you mean the game, but you clarify to the person that the word 'twister' a synonym for a tornado. That's a prime example about how the two hemispheres perform the same function in a different manor. We live in a left hemisphere dominant right-handed society. Linear thinking. This will not do for creation. Both hemispheres in equal balance is what i'm getting at.
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I don't mean to take over this thread, but I'm pretty sure -- and Chaol should correct me if I am wrong -- that you can map for yourself a gentle awakening. Instead of the "crash" that is being predicted for some, simply map waking up on an easy, sunny morning with a wonderful day ahead of you. Something like that.
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:)
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I'd love some input as to how to map this gentle awakening.

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I showed my lottery ticket (symbol of wealth) to 2 barking dogs today. I had it with me, the dogs were barking, so I thought, why not?
 Quoting: Unit3


if it's part of a singular formula, it may work more to your liking ;)

meaning, you create the 1, 2, 3, 5 elements at once and go through them consistently.
 Quoting: Chaol





I did that. (I switched goals as more information filtered in.) That's what I meant when I posted about doing The Genius on the run. I was going one direction with my goals and learned some things from the threads, so had to switch goals.

I was interacting with my symbol when out walking and saw the dogs. I have rules around it.

Oh, but I did make the rules after I purchased the ticket. So, should I start over then with a new symbol and new rules?

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Also, do you have a toy car?
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes! And it had me very excited as a kid! A plastic 1/43 scale Peugeot 403, my favorite car at the time.
I can't believe I didn't think of that one earlier. It's kind of fragile, the front and front bumper are off (just like the real life car).
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How are things with you Chaol? Is there any way we can help you?
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You are all ready helping me :)

You are my teacher!

It would be difficult to help when we would not share the same purpose.

What I am doing I am doing because I want to be with the woman that I love.
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Oh boy! Makes my heart flutter! What a romance. And according to you, you didn't even use The Genius! Sigh!

What I don't quite understand though, is how this helps you be with her? Aren't you with her now? Or do our 2 worlds have to come together better?
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Also, do you have a toy car?
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
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Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
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Yes! And it had me very excited as a kid! A plastic 1/43 scale Peugeot 403, my favorite car at the time.
I can't believe I didn't think of that one earlier. It's kind of fragile, the front and front bumper are off (just like the real life car).
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Isn't that interesting? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes! And it had me very excited as a kid! A plastic 1/43 scale Peugeot 403, my favorite car at the time.
I can't believe I didn't think of that one earlier. It's kind of fragile, the front and front bumper are off (just like the real life car).
 Quoting: tuuuuur





Isn't that interesting? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Yes!

Isn't it interesting Chaol knew I had it and had to remind me that I had it? :)
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Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes! And it had me very excited as a kid! A plastic 1/43 scale Peugeot 403, my favorite car at the time.
I can't believe I didn't think of that one earlier. It's kind of fragile, the front and front bumper are off (just like the real life car).
 Quoting: tuuuuur





Isn't that interesting? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Quoting: Unit3


Yes!

Isn't it interesting Chaol knew I had it and had to remind me that I had it? :)
 Quoting: tuuuuur





Yes, that too, LOL!

Edit: I remember when he told you about it, I was surprised because he has always said we need new symbols that we don't already have meaning attached.

When he said it to you, I remembered on the website, he talks about sweeping the floor and having a childhood memory at the same time. I didn't really figure out why he mentioned it to you but that's what came to mind.

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Alchemy is the art of imitating and accelerating nature. Philosophers Stone is a substance(powder) that transmutes other substances into a their perfect state. There are two versions of the Philosophers Stone, which is the white stone and the red stone. The white(moon;female) transmutes any metals into silver. And the red(sun;male) into gold. The Stone is simply a concentrated and highly developed
form of energy, which is the true nourishment of all things that grow(mineral, plant, animal). It is the universal medicine for the mind, body, and spirit. Unlimited life-energy. I could go on, but I think you get the just.

 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


And what is the purpose of it? How is it used?
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Yes I understand they do the same job. But each side does it's job in 2 totally different ways. Opposite in fact. Words vs Images. You are trying to explain to a person what A tornado is. But they speak a different language? You would communicate by imagery. Drawing, hand gestures. Now imagine that you both speak the same language, but instead you call it a twister. The other person thinks you mean the game, but you clarify to the person that the word 'twister' a synonym for a tornado. That's a prime example about how the two hemispheres perform the same function in a different manor. We live in a left hemisphere dominant right-handed society. Linear thinking. This will not do for creation. Both hemispheres in equal balance is what i'm getting at.
 Quoting: Issius Ulmonus


If left hemisphere-thinking dominates society, what of emotion?

Are the hemispheres not all ready in sync?
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Also, do you have a toy car?
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes! And it had me very excited as a kid! A plastic 1/43 scale Peugeot 403, my favorite car at the time.
I can't believe I didn't think of that one earlier. It's kind of fragile, the front and front bumper are off (just like the real life car).
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Yes. That is exactly the one.

Now why do you think the front of the toy car is misaligned, and when did this happen?

And how can this small real thing represent the bigger real thing (the car that you want)?

Do you see how you all ready own the car? We have only to change the perspective of what you have so that you can drive it. (Your toy car becomes the real one that you can drive.)

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Yes!

Isn't it interesting Chaol knew I had it and had to remind me that I had it? :)
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Well, I really wanted you to figure it out ;)
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I don't mean to take over this thread, but I'm pretty sure -- and Chaol should correct me if I am wrong -- that you can map for yourself a gentle awakening. Instead of the "crash" that is being predicted for some, simply map waking up on an easy, sunny morning with a wonderful day ahead of you. Something like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1489265


:)
 Quoting: Chaol





I'd love some input as to how to map this gentle awakening.

bump
 Quoting: Unit3


How would you define this gentle awakening? What would it mean to you, in practical wisdom?
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Lots! Not a model of this particular one, but lots of toy cars. I could stick the bead in a toy truck I have, and take it with me... showing it to others and having them interact with it too would help as well, if I recall correctly?
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Do you have one the color of the moon that can fit in your hand?
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes! And it had me very excited as a kid! A plastic 1/43 scale Peugeot 403, my favorite car at the time.
I can't believe I didn't think of that one earlier. It's kind of fragile, the front and front bumper are off (just like the real life car).
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Yes. That is exactly the one.

Now why do you think the front of the toy car is misaligned, and when did this happen?
 Quoting: Chaol


I really can't remember when, about 20 years ago while in university is my guess (but it could be earlier)

And not only is the front off as with the original, one of the headlights is missing a glass as well (as in the real life car).

What nice touches! ;-)

And how can this small real thing represent the bigger real thing (the car that you want)?
 Quoting: Chaol


I'm still trying to wrap my head around how that would be possible...

Do you see how you all ready own the car? We have only to change the perspective of what you have so that you can drive it. (Your toy car becomes the real one that you can drive.)
 Quoting: Chaol


I'm starting to see it!

Now this morning I got it from its spot where it has been the last 7 years, and started to restore it; took it apart and reglued the steeringwheel and the interior.

Now I read your reply I wonder if I shouldn't have left it in its original dilapidated state...

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