Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

I define it as quiet acceptance. So in practical wisdom, it means I am comfortable experiencing and perceiving that which is new to me.

When you switched your goal, did you make a new symbol?



It's probably better to make your symbol first (with logic and such) before considering the experience.

(However, with a powerful symbol it will not matter. But better to do it before to be sure.)

It 'was' part-time, but as our worlds merge it becomes more full-time.

Yes, I switched my goal to Wealth. Then, I purchased a lottery ticket as the symbol. I didn't make a symbol because you told me once it's better to get something new to you. I don't buy lottery tickets and I don't even care if welth comes that way. It represents wealth w/o having to be tied down to a job in this Western civilization to me. Then, after I got the ticket, I decided on the rules, etc:.

Edit: I need to clarify here. I actually had wealth, house, car and true love as goals. The real goal was to be in community with like-minded people (like what I find here in your threads) with someone I love.

As Hurricane Sandy took place, I began to see I was going to have to change everything, including the logic of getting what I want. So, I went for wealth because I feel it will help me do what I want to do too. And I have the logic for what I want to do.

From what I put in bold above, what's better to do before what to be sure? (sorry I don't get it, but it's better to find out what you mean than to guess.)

Last Edited by U3 on 11/05/2012 04:58 AM

Okay, I kinda figured that's what's going on. Wow, what a love story. Tell you what.....I'll help all I can.

To create something new, rather than get something new.

(tuuuuur's representation of his "old" toy car is somewhat different as I interfered somewhat in the process in order to illustrate, similar to an interference with your 'island' query)

Last Edited by Chaol on 11/05/2012 06:08 AM

Make the plan first (the Genius) then carry it out.

The plan is the map of your logical narrative from point A to point B, and it is where you can begin.

You know, this shines a new light on Alzheimers!

Chaol, I love ya but I am confused. The bold above, you tell me to create something new.

You told me in a post (in the link below) that symbols we create ourselves are not as powerful. I can make my own sigils and would prefer to do so but because of the post in this link, I quit making them and started finding symbols...such as a lottery ticket.

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So, do you see why I am confused?

Are you sayhing I have Alzheimers?

Hi Chaol, teachers and class,

Can a person by a symbol, used with the Genius?

Curious.

Thanks!
:)

*be a symbol!

Can a person be a symbol, used with the Genius?

I knew your response would be around those lines lol.
Sure I can come up with an assignment. I tried before actually to do a joint experiment like the one curve suggested, it never worked tho for some reason.

We all have the same intents for the most part as Western civilization has shaped all of our desires. To keep things organized and to avoid questions about a hundred different symbols, I'm thinking we all create the same symbol, rules, interaction to achieve the intended possibility. Not sure if that can work but I don't see why not, if it doesn't at least we can all start fresh together on a new one until we get it right.

So we all have a perspective of an abundance of money that we are trying to make most relative to our current perspective. We all have keys to unlock doors. So lets use a key as our symbol to unlock this perspective.

Anyone want to pitch in on space, logic and interaction?

Chaol, make sure you pay attention, no sleeping in class lol

I guess we'd have to do some modifications to the key since the key aloe already has meaning assigned to it. Lets wrap some tape around it. Use a key we don't use anymore and remodel it a bit. Maybe add some colors.

I guess we'd have to do some modifications to the key since the key aloe already has meaning assigned to it. Lets wrap some tape around it. Use a key we don't use anymore and remodel it a bit. Maybe add some colors.

Emotion based on personal gains...all for sense of 'I'. Nothing for the sense of 'us'.

Are the hemispheres not all ready in sync you ask? Ask yourself that question, and observe how 'you' answer it. Analytically and in a linear fashion using numbers then words. Ecsys. You compare human thought to the functionality of a CPU and you wonder why ask what I ask. In the manor that I ask.

I have homework for you chaol. Don't sleep for 7 days to loose your sense of I. Promise you that your dominating left hemisphere would rather shut down the body completely out of utter fear, rather than allow the passive right hemisphere to assume primary control. And you ask are the hemispheres not all ready in sync? If they were, sleeping would be a much different experience. A more 'waking' one.

Certain people are symbols. Mother Theresa and Hitler for example.

I meditated until I popped out of body sitting in the void. Once there, I asked myself your question to Chaol.

The response I gave myself was the following:

Although they are both using the same words, they're not talking about the same thing.

The left/right brain argument is no different than the intellectual/spiritual, democrat/republican, left/right, liberal/conservative or nogod/god arguments.

We are as we define ourselves, and we love to define ourselves.

Before anyone can even discuss this, we need a better understanding of the words we're discussing and how each party sees them.

So I guess what I am wondering is: what exactly do you mean by "left" and "right" hemispheres of the brain? The physical or metaphorical? What do you mean by "out of synch"?

Also, have you seen the philosopher's stone? Why do you believe it exists? Have you read "the book of Aquarius"?

Chaol, Do you ever watch the tv series "Fringe"? Anyway, you remind me of your teaching and logic to a character "Observer" which is my favorite character.

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Chaol, Do you ever watch the tv series "Fringe"? Anyway, you remind me of your teaching and logic to a character "Observer" which is my favorite character.

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Chaol, it's time for you to get over yourself. I appreciate your the purity of your intentions that we get the message and separate it from the messenger. But, it's just not possible. Our anthropologists and scientists have realized themselves, that they cannot study an environment without influencing it.

You are one of us now. We will learn this as fast as we can so you can just be a regular guy, but until then, you are still our friend. And, teaching us something we want to learn.

Of course, you're hearing this from someone who is tired of virtual reality, tired of being on the Truman Show....really, we have over 250,000 views on this thread alone? Who are you?

And a hand full of people posting? Why aren't the rest of you people posting? Tell us hi. Tell us you want to learn. Tell us when you can help us. Or not!

Plus, it's a little difficult to learn when the land beneath your feet and the sky above your head is changing so rapidly.

Major Man, I'm in on your experiment. And thank you for offering. As we can all see, Chaol appreciates it. He has repeatedly told us he doesn't want to be seen as anything other than a regular guy.

I'll think about your proposal and be back with input if I have any. TY.


OK....

Do you think there is a possibility we could scare him away with requests like this? I mean, how firm are you willing to be? I believe Chaol's credibility is rooted in the uncertainty on who or what he/she/it is.

I'd still follow these threads if he came clean on the possibility he is fantasizing the whole thing. What if he admitted to reminding us this is all just "light entertainment" to absolve himself of any sense of guilt? I think any of it could be possible, or none of it. The information he provides is ambiguous, intelligent, intriguing, fascinating and resonates with me.

Jesse Sovoda~ Indeed!!!

Do you mean it could be scary to him if I see him as my friend and I want to learn from him? I'm firm enough that I'm presenting as clean a slate as I can to learn Ecsys.

I appreciate your input so please talk to me about this. The last thing I want to do is scare him away.

Is the uncertainty factor something that makes this all better for you? I do believe he has encouraged us to make this what we need for ourselves....light entertainment or whatever. I've come to the place where I don't care what his agenda is. I see the value in the message.

Edit: Btw Jesse, one reason I love to talk to you is that you always bring in a factor that I don't usually think of. Thank you for that.

Last Edited by U3 on 11/05/2012 07:46 PM

I'll throw out my 2 cents.

First, I think it wise to approach this with a clean slate. No ideas of how it works or how we want it to work. We're here to learn HOW we create perceptions.

I like the idea of wealth. This seems to be a common thread to anything we are trying to create at this point.

Create the symbol: I'd say finding an old key is not a good idea but as you know, I am a little confused at this point. I was thinking of taking 3 toothpicks (twigs or matches) and taping them together, preferably with gold tape or tape it and wrap in gold ribbon. Anyway, something we can carry in a pocket.

Logic: We are into consciousness research so need a facility for our research.

Rules: Cover the symbol nightly with a tissue. Kiss it each morning when the tissue is removed. Sing a lullaby song to it before bedding it down at night.

Space: Read and subscribe to magazines and websites the wealthy read.

Interaction: Call some of the advertisers in these sources. This can also include corporations that might subsidize a consciousness research institute. Take the symbol with you if you visit any of these places.

Yes absolutely thank you for actually taking the time to understand what I was trying to get across. 100%

Although they are both using the same words, they're not talking about the same thing. The left/right brain argument is no different than the intellectual/spiritual, democrat/republican, left/right, liberal/conservative or nogod/god arguments.

Every truth is but half-truth! There is no correct or incorrect way to learn or solve a problem. There is no absolute absoluteness. Just a side on the same spectrum. This is the problem that we humans could not solve. Because it cannot be solved, only understood. Ouroboros. Aggressive/Passive, Love/Hate, Creation/Destruction Male/Female. All the same. Each side needs each other to create a stable wave of light. When two yin interact in a certain way, they create yang. This is the secret of the tao. The tree of life fractal shows this.

So I guess what I am wondering is: what exactly do you mean by "left" and "right" hemispheres of the brain? The physical or metaphorical? What do you mean by "out of synch"?

I mean both. Understanding will link them both. You can look inside to simply "know" any question you could ever ask. Read the book Left In the Dark by Tony Wright and Graham Gynn. The free edition of the book will suffice.

Also, have you seen the philosopher's stone? Why do you believe it exists? Have you read "the book of Aquarius"?

Yes. I know it existed because it is something a normal person would never find, even though it is always in plain sight. The book of Aquarius, yes I just finished the book about a week ago. That book was basically my confirmation that I was not madd. In Pursuit of Gold, and The Red Lion: The Elixir of eternal life are the books I read prior. There are many different ways to make the stone. The simplest is the secret fire in the center of a pyramid(kings chamber).
To tell you the truth I don't remember how I arrived at the stone. I started researching executive orders Obama has passed and now a year later I am here talking to you about a philosopher's stone. I just wished for adventure is all ha ha. I'm only 18 so I have no reason to use it just yet.

Last Edited by Issius Ulmonus on 11/05/2012 07:53 PM

I love you Chaol.

This thread is all about reprogramming our minds.

You initiate minds to think.

Now, tell me, how do I get rid of chinese symbols, which I have forgotten the sound memory, and meaning of?

Shall I visualise geometric symbols when the symbols appear in transcended mind-state?

I have also seen arabic letters, which I also have forgotten of.

You need to make a "guide" how to re:draw the symbols drawing us nearer to one symbolic language, without dividation of the sound.

Thank you Chaol!

Hi.

I believe you may have misinterpreted it. Please check again.

Not when used with the Genius*. Too much pre-extant meaning.

*more advanced uses, perhaps. But we're still on the basics.

Na, I don't think that's really the case. I just over-analyze.

Thank you for your sincere concern, though. If he takes off and gives up on all this(which he will have to eventually anyway) then I'll move on. He is one of many sources of information. I just happen to like his flavor.

There is something fascinating about the unknown, ANYTHING could be there. What better place for the Genius to discover? I was just trying to express a fear (that Chaol is a complete doucher and made it all up as a messianic fantasy) and a fantasy (that he's providing the Truth he denies "exists").