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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Talked to my dad, mother, wife and father in law... and they all strongly advise against getting this car.

If it's my car, I'll apparently get there by rowing against the stream...
 Quoting: tuuuuur


It does not mean that the destination has changed :)

I would even say that it clarifies the map a bit more. Now you have a better idea of the possibilities that would make their advice irrelevant.

For example, the car being gifted to you.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thanks for the heads up! That would be a possibility indeed.

Just for fun, here's a pic of the toy car with the color of the moon that almost fits in one's hand:

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]

And here is the real car, as we saw it last friday. The front is not attached, just there for an indication what it would look like:

[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
 Quoting: tuuuuur



Both are very cool, sounds like you have a pleasant 'surprise' coming your way tuuuuur, congrats! Thanks for sharing.
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[snips]
I actually had not thought of how I'd get to Vegas, just that Vegas is where the Bellagio is.

[snips]
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Sometimes it is not in Vegas ;)

(it depends on your perspective)

To clarify, "Bellagio" may relate more to a book in your library than "Vegas".

This is a bit more advanced, so I'll stop here.
 Quoting: Chaol


Dig :)
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It sounds weird but the symbol could be a bag of sand that is used to bring about a perspective of an abundance of water. The logic is in the rules you make not the symbol itself.
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I'd like to see how that would work :)

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And even the rules don't have to have anything to do with the outcome I don't think. As long as your symbol is interacting with your environment and you have rules and structure around it, subconsciously you will lead yourself to where u "want" to be.
 Quoting: (MaJorMan)


For rules the crazier, the better.

It should not be something obvious to your conscious mind. The more obvious the symbol and rules the less effective it would probably be.
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Obama = 'doom' on?
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It's not over til the bat lady sings.
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I agree about the rules. I also remember reading in one of the threads how opposite results sometimes happen.

Are you doing anything to interact with the Nov. 17th nexus?
 Quoting: Unit3


Hi.

This has been taken out of context a bit...

The results are predictable and can be calculated, as they exist now. However, this is an advanced function of Ecsys.

However, if a symbol that already has more than a little value in your perspective is used then the result is unpredictable. That's why I recommend using a symbol that has little to no value.

hope this helps
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Now you know why I interacted with dogs, LOL!

I think it's important though to interact with others. That's why I was trying to keep to the key shape.

OK, let me think because I want to do this. I need to make a symbol that represents $50 million that I can interact with others and without feeling like a complete dork, heh!
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Allow the symbol to interact with the things you want it to have an effect on and things that surround those things.
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[snippy-snips]

[(Perspective shifts result in...)optional?] great wealth continuously flowing to me[other-me, my-other] in increasing quantities via multiple sources, with ease. (Here I have paraphrased and added to a mantra suggested on a 'thinking wealthy' video which someone posted earlier on this thread, sorry, I forget who posted it, and from which page it can be found).

 Quoting: curve


Nice.

But what is the specific source of this wealth? How do you define it? When you define it you uncover it's value and begin to introduce it into your perspective.

[snippy-snips]

If my understanding is correct, Chaos enables the impetus for change, the more chaotic a situation, the more interactions involved between symbols, then, the more possibilities exist for deconstruction/change/creation.
 Quoting: curve


Chaos, in the classical sense, is simply an order or logic we do not (yet) understand. When we do understand it (that is, when it is more relative to us) it is known as interaction.

The impetus for change comes from interacting with new symbols. The "new" is born out of possibility and perceive because of logic.

[For bonus points "Possibility" is a representation of Nothing. The unused fifth element, number 4, is this pervasive Nothing and, when used, is represented as number 2, the element of possibility. Possibility allows us the illusion to relate one with an other, and thus seem to exist in a reality. So really the impetus for change comes from Nothing, and implies that there is no change but only the illusion of change. Which is exactly why neuronics works, because it is the same illusion as reality itself.]
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Thank you for noticing. I realize I'm forgetting things as this drags out. I guess that's how I learn! ;o(
Your patience is appreciated.

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You all ways have my patience.

For yea, I am a jealous surgeon.
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oooh...create a logical narrative from one perspective to the next, make our own '6 degrees of separation' style story of how we ended up with $50 million in the bank.
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Sure.. if you want to call it that :)

Start with something you have a try to draw a path from there to a perspective where $50MM in the bank is a given.

But don't think of the $50MM directly... think of what having that entails. For example, you are tired of getting interest statements every 2 weeks. So your goal would be to "...receive annoying interest statements every 2 weeks telling me I have an additional $12,234 in my account"

For example, before I purchased my new Bentley (with cash) all I had to do was create a Genius formula for a perspective that included receiving a quotation for 2 scratched chrome Bentley tires.

The logical narrative is filled in automatically. For example, "In order for Chaol to receive the quotation he first needs the car. Here ya go! Now it's more logical, and he's ready to receive the quotation." And so on...
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Yes, that's how it makes sense. It's how we go from current perspective to the next.

When we started this group project, I suggested the logic be that we are starting a consciousness research institute.
This is logical to me for $50 million.

Edit: I'm sort of getting lost into how to do this as a group project.
 Quoting: Unit3


If the goal is for each participant to have $50MM each in their account perhaps the most logical from this perspective (from my guess) is to champion the "next big idea" of one person and have the participants work on it. If there are 10 participants then the company is worth north of $500MM.

For the money to 'just appear' in the account would not be logical, unless we were in a magical universe.

There needs to be a logical narrative to go along with it, otherwise it is highly, highly unlikely to be experienced.

Neuronics is not magic, it's 'science'

The Genius shows you the map of how to get there from where you're standing.
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Chaol, do I understand this correctly??

For the "Genius" to have the intended results the

Symbol: must be physically represented in the least relative way possible.

Logic: the rules must be set in the least relative way possible.

Interaction: must be as often as possible in the way most relative to intent.

Possibility: must be within a space with high uncertainty.

A shoe used as a hat wouldn't be a great symbol for mastering ecsys because a shoe and hat are both articles of clothing.

Or am i further confusing my perspective?
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Talked to my dad, mother, wife and father in law... and they all strongly advise against getting this car.

If it's my car, I'll apparently get there by rowing against the stream...
 Quoting: tuuuuur


It does not mean that the destination has changed :)

I would even say that it clarifies the map a bit more. Now you have a better idea of the possibilities that would make their advice irrelevant.

For example, the car being gifted to you.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thanks for the heads up! That would be a possibility indeed.

Just for fun, here's a pic of the toy car with the color of the moon that almost fits in one's hand:

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]

And here is the real car, as we saw it last friday. The front is not attached, just there for an indication what it would look like:

[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
 Quoting: tuuuuur


That's exactly how I saw it. Though for some reason it is upside down.

Now you know why I said "color of the moon". I can almost see the lunar craters lol

I was hoping you would get it before you went, but there's still a possibility.

Do you think the most logical way is for it to be gifted to you?

(If you took this car, it would have been. The owner would have just given it to you. I don't think it would work now, though.)

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Talked to my dad, mother, wife and father in law... and they all strongly advise against getting this car.

If it's my car, I'll apparently get there by rowing against the stream...
 Quoting: tuuuuur


It does not mean that the destination has changed :)

I would even say that it clarifies the map a bit more. Now you have a better idea of the possibilities that would make their advice irrelevant.

For example, the car being gifted to you.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thanks for the heads up! That would be a possibility indeed.

Just for fun, here's a pic of the toy car with the color of the moon that almost fits in one's hand:

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]

And here is the real car, as we saw it last friday. The front is not attached, just there for an indication what it would look like:

[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
 Quoting: tuuuuur


That's exactly how I saw it. Though for some reason it is upside down.

Now you know why I said "color of the moon". I can almost see the lunar craters lol

I was hoping you would get it before you went, but there's still a possibility.

Do you think the most logical way is for it to be gifted to you?

(If you took this car, it would have been. The owner would have just given it to you. I don't think it would work now, though.)
 Quoting: Chaol


You see the toy car upside down because today it's lying upside down on my desk... ;-) The rear wheels were off, I am taking it with me to the model builders club I'm at to glue them on using stronger glue then I have at home.

We'll see what happens. I plan to call the seller Friday as I promised him to let him know what we decide.

Do I think the most logical way is for it to be given to me? Well, stranger things have happened... I do not have the amount of money asked, nor do I have stuff (that I can actually miss) of equal value to trade; so at the moment buying is out of the question.

I think you mean that, if I want that to happen, I got to bring my perspective to a point where it is the most logical thing to happen...

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Talked to my dad, mother, wife and father in law... and they all strongly advise against getting this car.

If it's my car, I'll apparently get there by rowing against the stream...
 Quoting: tuuuuur


It does not mean that the destination has changed :)

I would even say that it clarifies the map a bit more. Now you have a better idea of the possibilities that would make their advice irrelevant.

For example, the car being gifted to you.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thanks for the heads up! That would be a possibility indeed.

Just for fun, here's a pic of the toy car with the color of the moon that almost fits in one's hand:

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]

And here is the real car, as we saw it last friday. The front is not attached, just there for an indication what it would look like:

[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
 Quoting: tuuuuur





Just to interact......you have shown us a lot of the process. I thank you for that. Edit: Btw, cool car!

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And even the rules don't have to have anything to do with the outcome I don't think. As long as your symbol is interacting with your environment and you have rules and structure around it, subconsciously you will lead yourself to where u "want" to be.
 Quoting: (MaJorMan)


For rules the crazier, the better.

It should not be something obvious to your conscious mind. The more obvious the symbol and rules the less effective it would probably be.
 Quoting: Chaol





Wow! So only the logic from current perspective to new perspective is needed.
Happy Holidays! snowman
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I agree about the rules. I also remember reading in one of the threads how opposite results sometimes happen.

Are you doing anything to interact with the Nov. 17th nexus?
 Quoting: Unit3


Hi.

This has been taken out of context a bit...

The results are predictable and can be calculated, as they exist now. However, this is an advanced function of Ecsys.

However, if a symbol that already has more than a little value in your perspective is used then the result is unpredictable. That's why I recommend using a symbol that has little to no value.

hope this helps
 Quoting: Chaol




Aha! Yes, this helps.

I would like to discuss with you regarding a symbol that has little to no value, though.

Every symbol I can think of to use, seems to have some value.

I hang onto things that might be used in a creative project.
They may be thrown into a box and never used, but there is a value or I wouldn't hang onto it. I consider this something of little value.

About the only way I can see to use something that has no value is to make something from scratch. And even those materials have some value. I am just re-assigning their value. The modified key for our group project comes to mind here.


Does either example represent "little to no value"? And can you say more about something that has no value?

Thank you.
Happy Holidays! snowman
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It does not mean that the destination has changed :)

I would even say that it clarifies the map a bit more. Now you have a better idea of the possibilities that would make their advice irrelevant.

For example, the car being gifted to you.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thanks for the heads up! That would be a possibility indeed.

Just for fun, here's a pic of the toy car with the color of the moon that almost fits in one's hand:

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]

And here is the real car, as we saw it last friday. The front is not attached, just there for an indication what it would look like:

[link to farm8.staticflickr.com]
 Quoting: tuuuuur


That's exactly how I saw it. Though for some reason it is upside down.

Now you know why I said "color of the moon". I can almost see the lunar craters lol

I was hoping you would get it before you went, but there's still a possibility.

Do you think the most logical way is for it to be gifted to you?

(If you took this car, it would have been. The owner would have just given it to you. I don't think it would work now, though.)
 Quoting: Chaol


You see the toy car upside down because today it's lying upside down on my desk... ;-) The rear wheels were off, I am taking it with me to the model builders club I'm at to glue them on using stronger glue then I have at home.

We'll see what happens. I plan to call the seller Friday as I promised him to let him know what we decide.

Do I think the most logical way is for it to be given to me? Well, stranger things have happened... I do not have the amount of money asked, nor do I have stuff (that I can actually miss) of equal value to trade; so at the moment buying is out of the question.

I think you mean that, if I want that to happen, I got to bring my perspective to a point where it is the most logical thing to happen...
 Quoting: tuuuuur



Don't you have a car? If so, why don't you sell it and buy that old (sorry, vintage)one? As the old one is more 'rare', you can always get a common (current) car again.
I'm sorry if I'm not clear it's difficult for me to express in english
Just giving you ideas...
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Thanks Chaol, will take head to your suggestions and make the proper modifications. This is why I wanted it to be a group effort so everyone can learn and adjust at the same pace towards this common goal.

The research institute narrative is a great idea and in a way what we are beginning to do now. Thanks again Chaol and everyone participating. It's becoming more and more clear how to implement the system.
MaJorMan
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Chaol, do I understand this correctly??

For the "Genius" to have the intended results the

Symbol: must be physically represented in the least relative way possible.

Logic: the rules must be set in the least relative way possible.

Interaction: must be as often as possible in the way most relative to intent.

Possibility: must be within a space with high uncertainty.

A shoe used as a hat wouldn't be a great symbol for mastering ecsys because a shoe and hat are both articles of clothing.

Or am i further confusing my perspective?
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


Hi.

The symbol should just be something that has little-to-no pre-existing value. Nevermind about relativity or how you think it relates to the 'desired' perspective.

Logic can be anything. Just make sure it facilitates the symbol interacting with your perspective. The more it interacts the better.

Possibility can be anything (any space). It is thought of where the symbol can interact.

Interaction need not be often. It can be seldom, as long as the symbol is interacting with those values in your perspective that you'd like to experience more of. If it interacts often it's good but not essential.

A regular shoe used as a hat may not be a useful symbol because the show has pre-existing value (not because it's clothing). Change the nature of the shoe itself to make it something new (to assign a new value to it). If you paint it or wrap it in something and then put it on your head, for example, that is fine.

hope this helps.
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[snips]

I think you mean that, if I want that to happen, I got to bring my perspective to a point where it is the most logical thing to happen...
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Yes.

Here's how the previous scenario plays out in your past (the rated G version)...

you would have taken this car along for the ride with you to see the other car, holding it in your hand. Talking to the seller you realize, midway in conversation, that you have something in your hand. You actually forget what it is and you open up your hand, surprised. The person you are with is also surprised and a nexus point is created then and there, enabling the new values in your perspective (in this case, the real car) to interact with your toy car.

After a sort-of short discussion about your toy car the seller would 'make a deal' with you (I am not sure what kind of deal, as I was not paying attention to that part) so that you would essentially get the car for free after doing 1 thing that you consider quite easy in relation to the benefit.

But the good thing is that you now have the symbol that I have pre-programmed for you (for free! lol) that actually did not exist in your reality a few days ago (the memory is also free).

You can use it to unlock the perspective of owning the car. But it is up to you to figure out how.

A hint: see my example above about one of my cars that I purchased and apply it to your car's restoration and post-restoration. Care to enter a contest?

(No more hints. May the 4-sys be with you!)
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And even the rules don't have to have anything to do with the outcome I don't think. As long as your symbol is interacting with your environment and you have rules and structure around it, subconsciously you will lead yourself to where u "want" to be.
 Quoting: (MaJorMan)


For rules the crazier, the better.

It should not be something obvious to your conscious mind. The more obvious the symbol and rules the less effective it would probably be.
 Quoting: Chaol





Wow! So only the logic from current perspective to new perspective is needed.
 Quoting: Unit3


Don't think too much about the logic. The details are essentially meaningless.

The purpose is to focus on something. So it does not matter what the rules you have set are, as long as they enable your new symbol to interact with your perspective.
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I agree about the rules. I also remember reading in one of the threads how opposite results sometimes happen.

Are you doing anything to interact with the Nov. 17th nexus?
 Quoting: Unit3


Hi.

This has been taken out of context a bit...

The results are predictable and can be calculated, as they exist now. However, this is an advanced function of Ecsys.

However, if a symbol that already has more than a little value in your perspective is used then the result is unpredictable. That's why I recommend using a symbol that has little to no value.

hope this helps
 Quoting: Chaol




Aha! Yes, this helps.

I would like to discuss with you regarding a symbol that has little to no value, though.

Every symbol I can think of to use, seems to have some value.

I hang onto things that might be used in a creative project.
They may be thrown into a box and never used, but there is a value or I wouldn't hang onto it. I consider this something of little value.

About the only way I can see to use something that has no value is to make something from scratch. And even those materials have some value. I am just re-assigning their value. The modified key for our group project comes to mind here.


Does either example represent "little to no value"? And can you say more about something that has no value?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Unit3


Just take two or more things and put them together.

A modified something should be fine. Just continue to modify it until enough meaning is dispensed with that you begin to see something new. (Apologies if this isn't clear. I am not sure how to write this.)

A symbol done from scratch is even better.

An example of something with little-to-no value could be you taking two things that you've never seen before and you don't know what they're used for and (not trying to guess what they are) putting them together.

[Everything has a value though. But from our current perspective we can try to guess on things that may have very, very little pre-existing meaning to us.]

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I suppose I incorrectly determined value to be equivalent to relevancy.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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I suppose I incorrectly determined value to be equivalent to relevancy.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


It is inaccurately determined by the conscious mind*,

and more accurately determined by the sub-conscious mind.

It is safer to say that we do not know the value of something. We assume that we know what something is but usually we do not.

But using the Genius** the value will be uncovered, defined in our perspective and, thus, discovered in our experience.

*these terms here used for sake of illustration. There's really no difference between the two. Another chapter, perhaps.

**the Genius being your "sub-conscious"

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I suppose I incorrectly determined value to be equivalent to relevancy.
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Here's an illustration of how it's difficult for us to guess the relevancy of something...

Whatever is prevalent in your perspective now is highly relative to it and, thus, to you.

If an old, rotting ham sandwich is nearby it is more relevant to your current perspective than your mother whom is not.

Take a look around you. Each in your perspective has a high degree of relevancy. This may be obvious to you if you are at home. But it does not stop there.

Walk outside.

The people you pass, the strange things you see, the smells, the experiences, etc. All more relevant than that which you think is more relevant to your perspective.

Just an example of how it's difficult for our "conscious mind" to know the value of something,

and easier for the Genius (the "sub-conscious") to know it because it is the one doing the calculations, so to speak.
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Thanks Chaol, will take head to your suggestions and make the proper modifications. This is why I wanted it to be a group effort so everyone can learn and adjust at the same pace towards this common goal.

The research institute narrative is a great idea and in a way what we are beginning to do now. Thanks again Chaol and everyone participating. It's becoming more and more clear how to implement the system.
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With pleasure :)
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I suppose I incorrectly determined value to be equivalent to relevancy.
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Here's an illustration of how it's difficult for us to guess the relevancy of something...

Whatever is prevalent in your perspective now is highly relative to it and, thus, to you.

If an old, rotting ham sandwich is nearby it is more relevant to your current perspective than your mother whom is not.

Take a look around you. Each in your perspective has a high degree of relevancy. This may be obvious to you if you are at home. But it does not stop there.

Walk outside.

The people you pass, the strange things you see, the smells, the experiences, etc. All more relevant than that which you think is more relevant to your perspective.

Just an example of how it's difficult for our "conscious mind" to know the value of something,

and easier for the Genius (the "sub-conscious") to know it because it is the one doing the calculations, so to speak.
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Thank you. I feel like you used relevancy and value as equivalent terms in this post too. I may be missing something.
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I suppose I incorrectly determined value to be equivalent to relevancy.
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Here's an illustration of how it's difficult for us to guess the relevancy of something...

Whatever is prevalent in your perspective now is highly relative to it and, thus, to you.

If an old, rotting ham sandwich is nearby it is more relevant to your current perspective than your mother whom is not.

Take a look around you. Each in your perspective has a high degree of relevancy. This may be obvious to you if you are at home. But it does not stop there.

Walk outside.

The people you pass, the strange things you see, the smells, the experiences, etc. All more relevant than that which you think is more relevant to your perspective.

Just an example of how it's difficult for our "conscious mind" to know the value of something,

and easier for the Genius (the "sub-conscious") to know it because it is the one doing the calculations, so to speak.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thank you. I feel like you used relevancy and value as equivalent terms in this post too. I may be missing something.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


Apologies for the lack of clarity.

Imagine that everything in your reality is assigned a number (a value) from the dust to the photons to the television.

When we add all of these values up we get an other number, a sum that represents your perspective. For this example let's say that sum is 72

Further, let's say that "36" is more relevant to "72" than "73" is (for 36x2). Many other values surrounding "72" are not as relevant to it than "18" or "9", for example.

Putting 72 next to 74 is not as energy-efficient as putting it next to 36 or 144.

So in your "72" perspective, there are values everywhere but not all similar values are equally relative. We can determine the value of something by observing, in a way, that which surrounds it.

hope this helps to clarify.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
An apology is unnecessary and thank you, it does clarify things for me. I suppose then, my confusion stemmed from a misinterpretation of the word "value". I had read and interpreted it as the value from "valuable"(like, "i value that which is most relative" perhaps like "worth") and not as the value within the geometry of relationships.

Thank you very much. I apologize for my ignorance.
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