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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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If there is nothing Neuronics can not do, why not take death out of one's perspective? And old age? Disease, deformity etc:.
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If those things did not have some benefit then it would not be experienced.

There once was a boy who met a genie. The genie gave him 3 wishes.

"I wish for and endless supply of wishes" the boy commanded.

"Very well" said the genie. "You have an endless supply, and two more wishes after that."

The first wish that the boy wished for was a spaceship to take him far from Earth. He traveled far, and along the way he wished for things like air, food, water, friends to play with, and more.

Although the journey to other worlds was fun, after a while he grew tired and wished for an endless amount of physical energy so that he'll never have to rest.

He still had an unlimited supply of wishes left, which comforted him. Yet, he was still quite lonely because he continued to realize that his friends were not real. They only came to be and came to play because he wished it.

It was all an illusion, really.

He eventually came back to Earth because he grew lonely and missed the things he could not control. He missed fighting with his brother because it also meant that he liked making up with him. He missed his homework because it gave him something to do and meant that he would have a sense of accomplishment. He missed his parents because even though he had problems and it wasn't a perfect family, they have been there since the beginning.

After considering all of this for quite some time he decided that life is better left to its own elements.

His second wish was to 'undo' his first wish, and return the endless supply of wishes back to the genie.

He lived a happy life for a number of years. But still, in the back of his mind was the lingering thought that it was all an illusion. That somehow his life, which he was now quite happy with, is something that he wished for. He wanted to feel more secure and that. He wanted life to be itself and to be as real as it could possibly be.

What an awful thought! To think that even he is not real and does not exist. "What could be worse that having absolutely no value?", he would think. This troubled him too much, and one day he came to a decision.

Finally used his third wish.

"I wish I never met the genie"

And in a puff of smoke the genie vanished.
 Quoting: Chaol


He created the genie, then chose to forget him. Hrm.
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He is the genie.

o.O
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I'm trying to figure out how best to use the internet as a space too. If you want to do a blog with your symbols, etc:, feel free to interact with me. [link to perceptionmap.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Unit3


Thanks Unit3! I've looked at your blog and it inspired me :)

I am thinking that putting my symbol here, for this intent, where there is a lot of interaction, in this particular way, is best.

But I am putting out other symbols "online" in different ways in every thing I do. I know that sounds weird, but think of those company pens dispersed around to successfully brand that company. When I think in this way, it all fires off in my brain and every thing I would like to experience more is becoming more relative.

Genius at play!
 Quoting: * * *





Yes, everywhere online. Also, in our lives.
 Quoting: Unit3


Yes, that is what I meant by putting online in quotes ;) Holographic universe! Every thing is our lives.

The only problem I'm having is I keep forgetting to write down what I am supposed to be doing. Some of the rules are easily built-in, but I have to review my Genius maps because others are done on certain conditions.

I guess I need a "rule book" or something. Haven't decided on that.

Thanks for looking at the blog. It's such an easy system. Takes 3 minutes to post.
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I was forgetting to do my logic/structure actions, too. I wonder if the more I practice them and they become habit, the more relative the symbol has become? Maybe Chaol will have a last piece of advice on this. Or PGA. Or that person lurking! Haha. Life is weird :)
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Tell me about it, LOL! ^^^^

I have noticed some of them are very easy to become habit. I even forget which Genius map I'm using them for. But, I wonder how hard it is to switch to other actions when new Genius maps are written up? Ohhhhhhhhhh, so much to consider, so much to learn. But, boy, it is fun.

I feel like a spy when I go to some places to place my symbol, hehe!
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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!

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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!
 Quoting: * * *


-S / I = Do

-s / P = Hello

kilo = -S / +I

no = -S / +P
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go = S/ +I
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Sounds like a party...

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

See you there (briefly)!
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Bump!

November 15/16: A short meeting in the dream world under Chaol’s tree as first attempted months ago. Its possible to connect there any time. So as a warm up to the big one this is a good starting point I feel.

November 16/17: The power of our Sun ensures as we attempt to meet on the sun again.

November 17/18: Hopefully we are all dream world experts ;) or Chaol is there to help us and we attempt to find city with lagoons! Surely if someone posts about dreams in cities and lagoons after this date we can organise more types of meetings and activities.


Everyone reading please get involved, instructions are in the thread Chaol linked above.

Give it a try, what's the worst that can happen?
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[link to echelper.weebly.com]

It works well enough to store and retrieve your words.

Its easy to break and not prettiest or neatest application but its a start!

Will update it often but for now I am at least taking a week off, still need to plan a meet in the dream exercise!

Anyway, let me know what you think.
 Quoting: LeKing


This looks great!

Sorry if I missed it, but is it only for Windows? I'm on a Mac.

Thanks!

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Currently windows only.

Taking a little time off from developing it but I am hoping to get it on mac in the future :)
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Also for the neuronicons, remember we only need the sound of the bit which is underlined.

So for example +S-S, on the icon chart its AMERICAA


So the pronunciation is A A

Another example +S+I on the icon chart its BOOK

So the pronunciation is OO

I know most of you probably had that already, just for the new comers.

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Sorry, I should explain and not be so emo:

The other day I had an experience of great clarity about unity, and it was very lonely.

The reason for the illusion(s) is because being every thing at once means being no thing at all. I got close to being every thing at once, and not sure if I actually became no thing, but close was enough to feel devoid. The void.

Then, I was glad again for the illusion of separation, to know I exist, in relation.

So now, how to use it for entertainment.
:)

Jeez you guys, I'm sorry for not making more sense! Thanks for listening!
 Quoting: * * *


Well, now you know why we all ready 'live a perfect existence'.

So many of us seek unity, but that would not only be very boring it would mean absolutely nothing.

Of course we can dream, I suppose. And it's a nice idea in theory.
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My symbol is now three straightened paperclips wrapped in a post-it note. The space is an envelope with a PGA logo I drew on it. The interaction and logic is when I shake the envelope everyday to move the symbol around in the space. Maybe Chaol can help me if there is something missing here before he leaves.

PGA
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Hi.

You put a Symbol on your Possibility.

You can also make more Logic. Come up with something a bit crazy for better results.
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I was forgetting to do my logic/structure actions, too. I wonder if the more I practice them and they become habit, the more relative the symbol has become? Maybe Chaol will have a last piece of advice on this. Or PGA. Or that person lurking! Haha. Life is weird :)
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It helps, but it is the work of all the elements together that makes the symbol more relative.
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If there is nothing Neuronics can not do, why not take death out of one's perspective? And old age? Disease, deformity etc:.
 Quoting: Unit3


If those things did not have some benefit then it would not be experienced.

There once was a boy who met a genie. The genie gave him 3 wishes.

"I wish for and endless supply of wishes" the boy commanded.

"Very well" said the genie. "You have an endless supply, and two more wishes after that."

The first wish that the boy wished for was a spaceship to take him far from Earth. He traveled far, and along the way he wished for things like air, food, water, friends to play with, and more.

Although the journey to other worlds was fun, after a while he grew tired and wished for an endless amount of physical energy so that he'll never have to rest.

He still had an unlimited supply of wishes left, which comforted him. Yet, he was still quite lonely because he continued to realize that his friends were not real. They only came to be and came to play because he wished it.

It was all an illusion, really.

He eventually came back to Earth because he grew lonely and missed the things he could not control. He missed fighting with his brother because it also meant that he liked making up with him. He missed his homework because it gave him something to do and meant that he would have a sense of accomplishment. He missed his parents because even though he had problems and it wasn't a perfect family, they have been there since the beginning.

After considering all of this for quite some time he decided that life is better left to its own elements.

His second wish was to 'undo' his first wish, and return the endless supply of wishes back to the genie.

He lived a happy life for a number of years. But still, in the back of his mind was the lingering thought that it was all an illusion. That somehow his life, which he was now quite happy with, is something that he wished for. He wanted to feel more secure and that. He wanted life to be itself and to be as real as it could possibly be.

What an awful thought! To think that even he is not real and does not exist. "What could be worse that having absolutely no value?", he would think. This troubled him too much, and one day he came to a decision.

Finally used his third wish.

"I wish I never met the genie"

And in a puff of smoke the genie vanished.
 Quoting: Chaol


He created the genie, then chose to forget him. Hrm.
 Quoting: CatCarel


He is the genie.

o.O
 Quoting: * * *


Yes :) With an endless supply of wishes, he was the genie.

But his best wish by far is to forget that he ever knew that part of himself, thus forgetting what he can do.
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Ecsys Prime:

"We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive"

or, alternatively:

"We perceive that which takes the least number of interactions to perceive"

I make one more post before I go.
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Ecsys Prime:

"We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive"

or, alternatively:

"We perceive that which takes the least number of interactions to perceive"

I make one more post before I go.
 Quoting: Chaol


I replied in the dream world thread, please reply there.
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Also for the neuronicons, remember we only need the sound of the bit which is underlined.

So for example +S-S, on the icon chart its AMERICAA


So the pronunciation is A A

Another example +S+I on the icon chart its BOOK

So the pronunciation is OO

I know most of you probably had that already, just for the new comers.
 Quoting: LeKing





This newcomer appreciates it. Plus, reviews are always good even when you think you know a subject. AND you learn it better when you teach anyway!

So, 2 thumbs up!





Goofy Thum Goofy Thum

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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!
 Quoting: * * *


-S / I = Do

-s / P = Hello

kilo = -S / +I

no = -S / +P
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


Okay, thanks. So there are some typos on that page (which I found very hard to believe, hence my mad confusion!):

Word "constitution":

(From the text)
The first icon of the word has an input of +Symbol and an output of (neutral)Logic... the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction... the last icon is -Interaction and +Logic.


Proper definition: +SL S+I -I+L

Proper pronunciation: th-g-ing

THINK GO SING

On that page, it says the pronunciation for constitution is "oo-n-ing", which is way different than "th-g-ing".

Please let me know if I'm still off, but if not, it clears up a lot for me. Thanks!
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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!
 Quoting: * * *


-S / I = Do

-s / P = Hello

kilo = -S / +I

no = -S / +P
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


Okay, thanks. So there are some typos on that page (which I found very hard to believe, hence my mad confusion!):

Word "constitution":

(From the text)
The first icon of the word has an input of +Symbol and an output of (neutral)Logic... the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction... the last icon is -Interaction and +Logic.


Proper definition: +SL S+I -I+L

Proper pronunciation: th-g-ing

THINK GO SING

On that page, it says the pronunciation for constitution is "oo-n-ing", which is way different than "th-g-ing".

Please let me know if I'm still off, but if not, it clears up a lot for me. Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


Good catch, and my apologies for the confusion with the example graphic. It has been corrected.



See you in a ~month, everyone!

(And see some of you in your dreams)

X
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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!
 Quoting: * * *


-S / I = Do

-s / P = Hello

kilo = -S / +I

no = -S / +P
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


Okay, thanks. So there are some typos on that page (which I found very hard to believe, hence my mad confusion!):

Word "constitution":

(From the text)
The first icon of the word has an input of +Symbol and an output of (neutral)Logic... the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction... the last icon is -Interaction and +Logic.


Proper definition: +SL S+I -I+L

Proper pronunciation: th-g-ing

THINK GO SING

On that page, it says the pronunciation for constitution is "oo-n-ing", which is way different than "th-g-ing".

Please let me know if I'm still off, but if not, it clears up a lot for me. Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


Good catch, and my apologies for the confusion with the example graphic. It has been corrected.



See you in a ~month, everyone!

(And see some of you in your dreams)

X
 Quoting: Chaol


hf
Nothing is irrelevant.
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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!
 Quoting: * * *


-S / I = Do

-s / P = Hello

kilo = -S / +I

no = -S / +P
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


Okay, thanks. So there are some typos on that page (which I found very hard to believe, hence my mad confusion!):

Word "constitution":

(From the text)
The first icon of the word has an input of +Symbol and an output of (neutral)Logic... the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction... the last icon is -Interaction and +Logic.


Proper definition: +SL S+I -I+L

Proper pronunciation: th-g-ing

THINK GO SING

On that page, it says the pronunciation for constitution is "oo-n-ing", which is way different than "th-g-ing".

Please let me know if I'm still off, but if not, it clears up a lot for me. Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


Good catch, and my apologies for the confusion with the example graphic. It has been corrected.
 Quoting: Chaol


Ahhhhh, THANK YOU <3

See you in a ~month, everyone!

(And see some of you in your dreams)

X
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes.

x
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Hi guys,

I have an Ecsys question, which I didn't ask almost a year ago now, because I thought I must just not be understanding it. (I may have asked back then, but never got an answer. Mind is blurry.)

Any way, now that I've studied and learned more, there is still something that's confusing me.

Can someone please explain to me how -S+I = NO ?

1. Isn't the neuronicon for NO = -S+P

I keep reading -S+I as KILO from the pronunciation chart [link to ecsys.org]

But on this page [link to ecsys.org] , under Using "EC: 1 - English-to-EC" it says the word for "constitution" is pronounced oo-n-ing.

In the side paragraph, it says "Let's then say the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction."

2. I read this as GO = S+I ; Is this correct?


But then above the second neuronicon in the graphic for constitution, neutral Symbol and high Interaction is noted as -S+I

3. Wouldn't neutral symbol be S (no "-")?

Any help greatly appreciated. This is what stopped me from moving forward confidently before.

Thank you!!
 Quoting: * * *


-S / I = Do

-s / P = Hello

kilo = -S / +I

no = -S / +P
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


Okay, thanks. So there are some typos on that page (which I found very hard to believe, hence my mad confusion!):

Word "constitution":

(From the text)
The first icon of the word has an input of +Symbol and an output of (neutral)Logic... the next icon is (neutral)Symbol and +Interaction... the last icon is -Interaction and +Logic.


Proper definition: +SL S+I -I+L

Proper pronunciation: th-g-ing

THINK GO SING

On that page, it says the pronunciation for constitution is "oo-n-ing", which is way different than "th-g-ing".

Please let me know if I'm still off, but if not, it clears up a lot for me. Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


Good catch, and my apologies for the confusion with the example graphic. It has been corrected.
 Quoting: Chaol


Ahhhhh, THANK YOU <3

See you in a ~month, everyone!

(And see some of you in your dreams)

X
 Quoting: Chaol


Yes.

x

EDIT: There is still a typo in the example graphic: The second icon (GO) should not have the box on the input. I'm just adding this here so those who are new to it don't get confused and give up. It is quite easy, now that I know the sample matches my understanding of the language. Woohoo!

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Sounds like a party...

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

See you there (briefly)!
 Quoting: Chaol


Bump!

November 15/16: A short meeting in the dream world under Chaol’s tree as first attempted months ago. Its possible to connect there any time. So as a warm up to the big one this is a good starting point I feel.

November 16/17: The power of our Sun ensures as we attempt to meet on the sun again.

November 17/18: Hopefully we are all dream world experts ;) or Chaol is there to help us and we attempt to find city with lagoons! Surely if someone posts about dreams in cities and lagoons after this date we can organise more types of meetings and activities.


Everyone reading please get involved, instructions are in the thread Chaol linked above.

Give it a try, what's the worst that can happen?
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So for my first experience on the initial run, I've no recollection of anything except for the moment before I awoke. And lol all I recall is some one sternly reminding me "doe deck knows"

Not much to go on there, jotted it down in the dream journal anyway.
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This was interesting, reminded me of Chaol's teachings.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Sounds like a party...

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

See you there (briefly)!
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Bump!

November 15/16: A short meeting in the dream world under Chaol’s tree as first attempted months ago. Its possible to connect there any time. So as a warm up to the big one this is a good starting point I feel.

November 16/17: The power of our Sun ensures as we attempt to meet on the sun again.

November 17/18: Hopefully we are all dream world experts ;) or Chaol is there to help us and we attempt to find city with lagoons! Surely if someone posts about dreams in cities and lagoons after this date we can organise more types of meetings and activities.


Everyone reading please get involved, instructions are in the thread Chaol linked above.

Give it a try, what's the worst that can happen?
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So for my first experience on the initial run, I've no recollection of anything except for the moment before I awoke. And lol all I recall is some one sternly reminding me "doe deck knows"

Not much to go on there, jotted it down in the dream journal anyway.
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Uhhh. Dodec, care to share what you know?

:D
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Sounds like a party...

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

See you there (briefly)!
 Quoting: Chaol


Bump!

November 15/16: A short meeting in the dream world under Chaol’s tree as first attempted months ago. Its possible to connect there any time. So as a warm up to the big one this is a good starting point I feel.

November 16/17: The power of our Sun ensures as we attempt to meet on the sun again.

November 17/18: Hopefully we are all dream world experts ;) or Chaol is there to help us and we attempt to find city with lagoons! Surely if someone posts about dreams in cities and lagoons after this date we can organise more types of meetings and activities.


Everyone reading please get involved, instructions are in the thread Chaol linked above.

Give it a try, what's the worst that can happen?
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So for my first experience on the initial run, I've no recollection of anything except for the moment before I awoke. And lol all I recall is some one sternly reminding me "doe deck knows"

Not much to go on there, jotted it down in the dream journal anyway.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


Uhhh. Dodec, care to share what you know?

:D
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
This was interesting, reminded me of Chaol's teachings.

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Excellent video! Network thinking!

Thanks, Jesse.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Through your extensive details and also the above statements you are all ready limiting your 'future' perspective.

Letting your sub-conscious work out the details really means not thinking about it too much.

Just briefly thing of what you want the perspective to be, create the symbol and the other elements, and let it go.

When you detail it so much you are actually satisfying the experience of it and making it less likely that it would happen.
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Okay, I can make another Genius map with less details on the goal. The reason why I added these details is because I learned somewhere else, that successful people have a clear vision on their goals and they even write it down. I thought knowing the exact thing that I want to experience is the best to reach it.

You also mentioned I should use one crazy rule instead of a few conditional rules. May I ask what is not a conditional rule? If I had to do anything without condition, I would be doing it all day. Everything has a condition or a trigger let's say.
If you do something every weekend, that is a condition (if today is Saturday or Sunday then do something). Even in your example on ecsys.org you write stuff like: if you showed your drawing of a car to anyone then draw another one. Or if you draw your dream car, then always draw its wheels black.

Do you see it? Every rule is a conditional rule. So I don't see what is the problem with the rules in my Genius model. Too many of them maybe? Then next time I will just add one rule.

By the way, if I modify any element of the model (eg. only the logic) then I have to change the others as well, thus basically making a new Genius model? If that is the case, is it safe to throw out some old Genius models that did not seem to work? Or throwing them out will bring me farther away from my goal as a kind of revenge?
I just don't want to end up with having to follow a whole bunch of stupid rules after a few trials on different Genius models :)

Chaol: now that you said my models are not likely to bring the car closer to me, I think I will soon dump these not-likely-to-work models and create a new one. Can you please recommend a proper Genius model for my new car that is going to work?

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I wish we had another way to communicate other than this site...
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
My symbol is now three straightened paperclips wrapped in a post-it note. The space is an envelope with a PGA logo I drew on it. The interaction and logic is when I shake the envelope everyday to move the symbol around in the space. Maybe Chaol can help me if there is something missing here before he leaves.

PGA
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Hi.

You put a Symbol on your Possibility.

You can also make more Logic. Come up with something a bit crazy for better results.
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I guess that answers whether I need to draw the PGA logo on the envelope. I'll add some logic. Every morning I'll pull the symbol out of the envelope step on it three times with my right foot then put it back in the envelope. Thanks Chaol.
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I wish we had another way to communicate other than this site...
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We could use telegraph, email or smoke signal. What's your preference?
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I wish we had another way to communicate other than this site...
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We could use telegraph, email or smoke signal. What's your preference?
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Any other form that don't give bans for having different opinions sounds good!

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