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| Jesse Sovoda User ID: 11481360 11/24/2012 10:23 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol: I noticed that whenever someone talks about the soul, you keep acting like you don't know we are talking about. If you think there is only perspective (relationship of symbols), but no soul, how do you describe happiness? What is happiness then? What is love then? Quoting: madcaddy Why do I feel happy when I keep thinking about things I like? When I visualize a nice meadow with lots of tulips? When I am thinking about my three kids and my wife? When I am thinking about peace and love? Why is that I feel awful when I watch a pro-Israeli propaganda on youtube or hear people quarreling? If there is no soul, what feels these emotions? How do I know by nature what is good and what is bad (good meaning what brings me closer to actually who I am)? Why is that I always feel bad when Sekhmet (the warrior goddess) pops up now and then in the thread? How do you describe this bad feeling? You say there is no such thing as good or bad, just what seems so from my perspective. And yet I can still feel exactly what is good or bad at any time, independent from what symbols are nearby or relative to me. What if the "feelings" are a symbol within your perspective as well? You only feel what you do because of what you believe you've experienced up until now. You (whether you believe me or not) do choose how "things" make you "feel". Does a soul have to exist to have feelings? If so, perhaps your definition of a soul and Chaol's definition of perspective may be the same thing. Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? We are all looking at the same (no)"thing" and assigning meaning to it to imagine ourselves into relevancy. Some of us "feel" better calling something Divine, as it implies we are not alone and there is something (else) looking out for us. This is a further separation brought on by our self imposed illusion to make us "feel" like we exist. Calling yourself God (source of perspective) or imagining "God" is external and independent of you are technically the same thing. We can never "know" because it (God, source of perspective) is beyond perception and therefore irrelevant. If we can't perceive it, we make it up to "feel" better about nothing. We're aware of only what we can perceive and beyond that we assign meaning to the shapes moving in the distant darkness, yet that's all it is... darkness (without possibility for perception). We're laying in the grass staring up at the clouds, talking about how much they look like bunny rabbits and cotton balls. The challenge we have is that I don't know which tools (preconceptual framework) you are missing so let me note the following... you assign the meaning to all that exists...you are confined to that which you define yourself... your experience is a reflection of your choices... your choices are a reflection of your experience... you experience exactly what you deserve... what you think, you become... as above, so below... all is justified in perspective... all is dependent on your perspective... what comes "next" will be what you believe can come next... you are God... you've chosen to forget yourself.... you are forever looking to remember... everything that is, was and will be... is now... you are choosing to be here, right now... if you believe you do not have control, you won't... you are only restricted by your belief... You will feel this. You can make a conscious commitment to drop breadcrumbs for your "current" self, when you get to where you can. Know that as you collect(notice) the crumbs(hints) they are for you, from you. You can only allow yourself to advance as quickly as you believe you can. Believe (feel) what I've reminded you... remind someone else. If you assist others you will be assisted. |
| CatCarel User ID: 23708875 11/24/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wtf? Bars are establishments of debauchery and self loathing. How dare you?! and pft MAGNETS? Isn't that a phallic symbol representing the divine pull of male genitalia into the female?!! OFFENSIVE!!!!! We (all) choose what's offensive to us and make a big deal out of it like the "drama queens" we all are. ![]() Cat www.ecsys.weebly.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 11/24/2012 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wtf? Bars are establishments of debauchery and self loathing. How dare you?! and pft MAGNETS? Isn't that a phallic symbol representing the divine pull of male genitalia into the female?!! OFFENSIVE!!!!! We (all) choose what's offensive to us and make a big deal out of it like the "drama queens" we all are. ![]() Ha ha. For sure, Jesse. What about a pronged plug being inserted into an electrical socket? Without the male (electricity) and the female (magnetism), there would be no reproduction. There would be no power. You gotta put them together! That's the trick! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 11/24/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not specifically, Unit3. However, there is a lot of information regarding other people and how they fit into your perspective. Can you find some of that information and apply it to your "elderly"? (I hope you are not referring to me lol.) |
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| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nonetheless, I am gaining terrific insight knowing that everything that seems to be "separate" is actually my Self. I have understood people better, thereby understanding my Self better. More things slide off my back. I am fascinated with exploring the processes of my Self. Not the things that manifest as a result of these processes, but the why's and the wherefore's of it all. There is a grandeur to my Self that I was not fully appreciating before. I mean, just take a look around! The sky, the birds, flowers, clouds, stars and galaxies. There is a breathless beauty in me! I especially enjoy being able to steer my reality in the directions I like. It just takes a little attention to what one is dreaming. Yes, agreed! Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Y'all need to stop freaking out about Sekhmet. She is a SYMBOL. Her name is a SYMBOL. That is, they are representations of something else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315 It is probably the Egyptians that named her the goddess of war. It appears that they abused a symbol whose original invention was to illustrate a force. This is probably why Chaol called the Egyptians "terrorists". It is not much different from what we do nowadays: every new invention that could benefit our civilization, is instead turned into a weapon of war. Rather than a lion's head on the body of a woman, imagine a bar magnet. Better yet, imagine a magnet in the shape of a long cylinder, standing on end. Now, imagine copper wire being wound around this magnet. The south pole is at your feet. The north pole is your head. The south pole sucks up energies from below, the north pole radiates those energies outward. The copper wire conducts electricity, which also causes the paths of energy to swirl up the cylinder, rather than move in a straight line. Can you not see how this is the key? The bridge? The portal? THIS is what is represented by a symbol from 30,000 years ago, before it was corrupted into all sorts of scary imagery. That imagery may very well have been dramatized in order to keep you away from knowing something. I'm not freaked out by Sekhmet. Thanks for the beautiful explanation. Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wtf? Bars are establishments of debauchery and self loathing. How dare you?! and pft MAGNETS? Isn't that a phallic symbol representing the divine pull of male genitalia into the female?!! OFFENSIVE!!!!! We (all) choose what's offensive to us and make a big deal out of it like the "drama queens" we all are. ![]() Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol: I noticed that whenever someone talks about the soul, you keep acting like you don't know we are talking about. If you think there is only perspective (relationship of symbols), but no soul, how do you describe happiness? What is happiness then? What is love then? Quoting: madcaddy Why do I feel happy when I keep thinking about things I like? When I visualize a nice meadow with lots of tulips? When I am thinking about my three kids and my wife? When I am thinking about peace and love? Why is that I feel awful when I watch a pro-Israeli propaganda on youtube or hear people quarreling? If there is no soul, what feels these emotions? How do I know by nature what is good and what is bad (good meaning what brings me closer to actually who I am)? Why is that I always feel bad when Sekhmet (the warrior goddess) pops up now and then in the thread? How do you describe this bad feeling? You say there is no such thing as good or bad, just what seems so from my perspective. And yet I can still feel exactly what is good or bad at any time, independent from what symbols are nearby or relative to me. What if the "feelings" are a symbol within your perspective as well? You only feel what you do because of what you believe you've experienced up until now. You (whether you believe me or not) do choose how "things" make you "feel". Does a soul have to exist to have feelings? If so, perhaps your definition of a soul and Chaol's definition of perspective may be the same thing. Jesse, isn't it also possible that what we in our world call "Godlike experiences" could also be experiences of the Divine......which in Chaol's world they call something else within their perspective? In other words, aren't both worlds assigning meanings to experiences? And if one believes in God, they call it a Divine experience? And if one believes they are God (such as in Chaol's world), call it something else...maybe an experience beyond perception? We are all looking at the same (no)"thing" and assigning meaning to it to imagine ourselves into relevancy. Some of us "feel" better calling something Divine, as it implies we are not alone and there is something (else) looking out for us. This is a further separation brought on by our self imposed illusion to make us "feel" like we exist. Calling yourself God (source of perspective) or imagining "God" is external and independent of you are technically the same thing. We can never "know" because it (God, source of perspective) is beyond perception and therefore irrelevant. If we can't perceive it, we make it up to "feel" better about nothing. We're aware of only what we can perceive and beyond that we assign meaning to the shapes moving in the distant darkness, yet that's all it is... darkness (without possibility for perception). We're laying in the grass staring up at the clouds, talking about how much they look like bunny rabbits and cotton balls. ![]() Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not specifically, Unit3. However, there is a lot of information regarding other people and how they fit into your perspective. Can you find some of that information and apply it to your "elderly"? (I hope you are not referring to me lol.) LOL! No, it's someone in my perspective that I feel protective towards. (And yes, I know this is a part of myself) I am scrambling to find "other" information, you can bet on that. Don't you see me posting Chaol's posts from deep within all his threads, LOL! Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| stars User ID: 17867407 11/24/2012 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think we all came from your world. I know I came from somewere before I was born, and been trying to get back there ever since. Quoting: stars Hi. You never left home. You simply got caught up in the details of the physical. Home is all around you. You can go back whenever you want to. thanks stars |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853315 11/24/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think we all came from your world. I know I came from somewere before I was born, and been trying to get back there ever since. Quoting: stars Hi. You never left home. You simply got caught up in the details of the physical. Home is all around you. You can go back whenever you want to. thanks Have you looked at the process for The Genius? Do you understand that everything is within your perspective right now? All you need to do is create a symbol that represents home for you, then make some rules around the symbol and interact with it. That's it. It is that simple. But, then you may not want it to be that simple. And, so, you continue to fumble around, seeking "home", without ever actually going directly home. Sometimes it feels better to just complain about something than it does to take responsibility for changing your perspective. |
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| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not specifically, Unit3. However, there is a lot of information regarding other people and how they fit into your perspective. Can you find some of that information and apply it to your "elderly"? (I hope you are not referring to me lol.) Btw, what's wrong with being elderly? Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
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| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Start out by getting yourself some ruby slippers. Just a suggestion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315 Wrong! The symbol used in the Genius, is to have NO to LITTLE VALUE. Ruby slippers already have value! Last Edited by U3 on 11/24/2012 03:56 PM Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think we all came from your world. I know I came from somewere before I was born, and been trying to get back there ever since. Quoting: stars Hi. You never left home. You simply got caught up in the details of the physical. Home is all around you. You can go back whenever you want to. thanks Have you looked at the process for The Genius? Do you understand that everything is within your perspective right now? All you need to do is create a symbol that represents home for you, then make some rules around the symbol and interact with it. That's it. It is that simple. But, then you may not want it to be that simple. And, so, you continue to fumble around, seeking "home", without ever actually going directly home. Sometimes it feels better to just complain about something than it does to take responsibility for changing your perspective. Actually, Chaol advised when starting to learn to use the Genius, to try for a car, house or something like that. I know because I tried to get him to let me do just what you suggest and he said it would be better to try the other things first. Edit: So, I made those other Genius maps first...then made one for the Dream Reality, heh! Last Edited by U3 on 11/24/2012 08:22 PM Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good heavens! Nothing is wrong with it! Best time of my life! Now, get off my lawn. :) Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't see it, but did Dodec ever re-emerge from the dream to share what he/she knew? Quoting: * * * :D I wish! Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh! Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!! Last Edited by U3 on 11/24/2012 05:51 PM Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
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| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't logged in, sorry! Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
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| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/24/2012 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am still here to answer all of your questions. I am a recognized emissary from X. Recognized by whom? Last Edited by U3 on 11/24/2012 10:45 PM Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27574130 11/25/2012 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Chaol, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27574130 I was wondering where the first eternal spirit originated from, if it was first surrounded by black nothingness? Thanks Everything is nothing and nothing is everything. Why and when did nothing decide it wanted to be everything? Thanks Nothing wants to be nothing. To answer what I think was the intent of your question. It was shortly before red decided it wanted to be a colour and water decided it wanted to be wet. If you are what you say you are, then you should be able to forsee the future.. My question is, on dec 21st, will the ascension occur or will some other worldy event occur? please tell me your insight Chaol as I am sure you know the answer already. |