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| CatCarel User ID: 23708875 11/26/2012 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't see it, but did Dodec ever re-emerge from the dream to share what he/she knew? Quoting: * * * :D I wish! Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh! Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!! He, he! Glad to see you here today! I'm lurking :) Working on the Farpoint thread today Cat www.ecsys.weebly.com |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Unit3 I wish! Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh! Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!! He, he! Glad to see you here today! I'm lurking :) Working on the Farpoint thread today Yay! Another pops in! Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907 Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message? Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487466 11/26/2012 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907 Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message? It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28525953 11/26/2012 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907 Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message? Hey your avatar as skin is nice but i get like game door bars going down when i saw it ... I bought nivea scrub again. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487466 11/26/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556 Everything operates in cycles based on mathematical probabilities. Do you think Chaol would not operate following the rules of the universe? And? What are those rules? Why every September 9? You have created the relationship. What do you think the logic behind it is? In other words, you don't know why Chaol arrives early every September and then leaves every mid-November. If I knew, I would not have asked. You offered to answer questions. Using my logic and seeing the possibilities, you are not very good at this. Interaction is over with. I don't care to play your game. Ok I'm back with my kiddy gloves on to discuss Chaol's comings and goings. I think I assumed you were all paying more attention. Chaol comes and goes on prominent Nexi. By now we all know that nexi represent spaces for possibility. What creates these spaces? Based on what we have learned so far, the relationship (geometry) between two or more representations creates the space for possibility, the same way binaural tones work. So what are the major representations that are always associated with Chaol's comings and goings? Seems they always sun-related, with expressions on planet earth, physically, socially, etc. Feel free to add any other relationships (patterns) that you feel are pertinent. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487466 11/26/2012 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have created the relationship. What do you think the logic behind it is? In other words, you don't know why Chaol arrives early every September and then leaves every mid-November. If I knew, I would not have asked. You offered to answer questions. Using my logic and seeing the possibilities, you are not very good at this. Interaction is over with. I don't care to play your game. Ok I'm back with my kiddy gloves on to discuss Chaol's comings and goings. I think I assumed you were all paying more attention. Chaol comes and goes on prominent Nexi. By now we all know that nexi represent spaces for possibility. What creates these spaces? Based on what we have learned so far, the relationship (geometry) between two or more representations creates the space for possibility, the same way binaural tones work. So what are the major representations that are always associated with Chaol's comings and goings? Seems they always sun-related, with expressions on planet earth, physically, socially, etc. Feel free to add any other relationships (patterns) that you feel are pertinent. Think sun-moon magnetic relationships. These two representations are of major relevance to this perspective. |
| * * * User ID: 918001 11/26/2012 04:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something. Quoting: Dodec 20177375 Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true. And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths. If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game. Dodec does know ;) It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise. Thanks! --- *** |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487466 11/26/2012 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something. Quoting: Dodec 20177375 Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true. And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths. If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game. Dodec does know ;) It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise. Thanks! This is a great and probably more well received reminder. I've tried to get participants to find their own evidence. It turns out that the least required energy (path of least resistance) is to place blame on someone else instead of finding the things that you already know deep down. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28533211 11/26/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something. Quoting: Dodec 20177375 Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true. And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths. If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game. Dodec does know ;) It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise. Thanks! |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Unit3 (checking in every day, not much to say/add and don't connect to the Sekhmet thing unfortunately) I didn't think I was either until things in my waking reality changed so drastically, I figured out a way to slow my Genius down. Remember, we are interpreting things according to our understanding. That doesn't mean they are True. Edit: Glad you popped in. You were a catalyst in my understanding of the Genius. ;D Last Edited by U3 on 11/26/2012 11:14 PM Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907 Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message? It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then. Why is that? And I'll add I'm not trying to dismantle your message. I am trying to understand it. Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something. Quoting: Dodec 20177375 Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true. And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths. If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game. Dodec does know ;) It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise. Thanks! Many of you have made tremendous changes in perspectives over the years that I have posted. It's very refreshing. Quoting: Chaol Is anything in this thread true? Probably not :) The truth is beyond perception. This is very helpful Gespenst. Thank you. Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487466 11/26/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907 Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message? It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then. Why is that? And I'll add I'm not trying to dismantle your message. I am trying to understand it. As ever I am here to answer your questions while Chaol is away. I am self proclaimed human being representing my perspective here. Use your own discernment when considering my replies. |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then. Why is that? And I'll add I'm not trying to dismantle your message. I am trying to understand it. As ever I am here to answer your questions while Chaol is away. I am self proclaimed human being representing my perspective here. Use your own discernment when considering my replies. Very nice. Thank you. Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Gespenst User ID: 28533211 11/26/2012 11:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something. Quoting: Dodec 20177375 Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true. And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths. If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game. Dodec does know ;) It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise. Thanks! Many of you have made tremendous changes in perspectives over the years that I have posted. It's very refreshing. Quoting: Chaol Is anything in this thread true? Probably not :) The truth is beyond perception. This is very helpful Gespenst. Thank you. Just another interesting thing from the same quote: It is not my intention to be "right". Sometimes I am intentionally wrong about things, or make mistakes, or even manipulate you for my own purposes. |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907 Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message? Hey your avatar as skin is nice but i get like game door bars going down when i saw it ... I bought nivea scrub again. Thanks. Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/26/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: * * * Dodec does know ;) It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise. Thanks! Many of you have made tremendous changes in perspectives over the years that I have posted. It's very refreshing. Quoting: Chaol Is anything in this thread true? Probably not :) The truth is beyond perception. This is very helpful Gespenst. Thank you. Just another interesting thing from the same quote: It is not my intention to be "right". Sometimes I am intentionally wrong about things, or make mistakes, or even manipulate you for my own purposes. Wow. Hadn't seen that or maybe don't remember it. Anyway, thanks again. I'm still thinking about the first one you posted where he says truth is beyond perception. Why do I accept that statement? Yet, I know the mind fills in the blanks. But then somewhere, Chaol says the only way to expand your perspective is to see something you've never seen before. I just don't know how that is possible. The mind will always come up with an answer. There are studies of anthropologists who report on tribes who can't see things like a ship (because it isn't in their framework) or a lady who left the Amazon jungle for the first time. She saw a man riding a donkey and it scared her because she had never seen a half human and half animal before. For myself, I have found "spaces" I call voids. There are no symbols, nothing, but there is some texture or some awareness of a sort. It might be a feeling of deep peace or awareness of presence. What is Chaol's definition of Truth? Anybody know? Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 11/26/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Hadn't seen that or maybe don't remember it. Anyway, thanks again. Quoting: Unit3 I'm still thinking about the first one you posted where he says truth is beyond perception. Why do I accept that statement? Yet, I know the mind fills in the blanks. But then somewhere, Chaol says the only way to expand your perspective is to see something you've never seen before. I just don't know how that is possible. The mind will always come up with an answer. There are studies of anthropologists who report on tribes who can't see things like a ship (because it isn't in their framework) or a lady who left the Amazon jungle for the first time. She saw a man riding a donkey and it scared her because she had never seen a half human and half animal before. For myself, I have found "spaces" I call voids. There are no symbols, nothing, but there is some texture or some awareness of a sort. It might be a feeling of deep peace or awareness of presence. What is Chaol's definition of Truth? Anybody know? You'll find the definition in your second sentence. |
| X Won User ID: 1407931 11/26/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the enthusiasm Unit3 (et al). I'm enjoying the discourse and will try to be less lazy with my contribution to this thread. My Genius Models are still works-in-progress. I should be running a GeniusModel trot-line by now...but I'm holding back for some reason or an other. My dreams have continued to be crazy vivid intense. I've also been lazy with the Sekhmet key...it's a good moon out tonight for another run at her, so may be I see some of [you] then. Under a tree...in a hall...on the sun...??? Izzallghooood. !!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27574130 11/27/2012 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27574130 Why and when did nothing decide it wanted to be everything? Thanks Nothing wants to be nothing. To answer what I think was the intent of your question. It was shortly before red decided it wanted to be a colour and water decided it wanted to be wet. If you are what you say you are, then you should be able to forsee the future.. My question is, on dec 21st, will the ascension occur or will some other worldy event occur? please tell me your insight Chaol as I am sure you know the answer already. Hi, Chaol is gone until early Dec. (the 9th I think). I am sure he will answer your question when he does return. what if one has a severe brain impairment that does not let one ascend because the cognitive abilities of that one could not comprehend much. also, i have heard that, the karma cycle exists, and one will keep repeating their life until one reaches ascension or learn from past mistakes- however if you are born cognitively impaired, how are you able to make any kind of choice with a brain that does not compute? |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/27/2012 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556 Nothing wants to be nothing. To answer what I think was the intent of your question. It was shortly before red decided it wanted to be a colour and water decided it wanted to be wet. If you are what you say you are, then you should be able to forsee the future.. My question is, on dec 21st, will the ascension occur or will some other worldy event occur? please tell me your insight Chaol as I am sure you know the answer already. Hi, Chaol is gone until early Dec. (the 9th I think). I am sure he will answer your question when he does return. what if one has a severe brain impairment that does not let one ascend because the cognitive abilities of that one could not comprehend much. also, i have heard that, the karma cycle exists, and one will keep repeating their life until one reaches ascension or learn from past mistakes- however if you are born cognitively impaired, how are you able to make any kind of choice with a brain that does not compute? Do you think it is also possible that one with a brain impairment might also be advanced spiritually? Have you read the account of the lady who experienced a stroke and how wonderful her experience was? There are also people who are re-growing and re-wiring their brains. Dr. Norman Doidge is involved in this. Several of us have reported our families are catching on to what we are learning here in Chaol's threads. I see no reason someone with a brain injury could not be included too. Everything is available to us. It's all right here, right now. We just have to see it. We can use the Genius to get the perspectives we want and this includes someone with a brain injury, if you ask me. Edit: To clarify, I mean I think someone could write a Genius plan to include a person with a brain impairment to ascend or maybe even heal. Last Edited by U3 on 11/27/2012 01:42 AM Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/27/2012 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the enthusiasm Unit3 (et al). I'm enjoying the discourse and will try to be less lazy with my contribution to this thread. My Genius Models are still works-in-progress. I should be running a GeniusModel trot-line by now...but I'm holding back for some reason or an other. Quoting: X Won 1407931 My dreams have continued to be crazy vivid intense. I've also been lazy with the Sekhmet key...it's a good moon out tonight for another run at her, so may be I see some of [you] then. Under a tree...in a hall...on the sun...??? Izzallghooood. !!! ;) Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Unit3 User ID: 9834739 11/27/2012 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Hadn't seen that or maybe don't remember it. Anyway, thanks again. Quoting: Unit3 I'm still thinking about the first one you posted where he says truth is beyond perception. Why do I accept that statement? Yet, I know the mind fills in the blanks. But then somewhere, Chaol says the only way to expand your perspective is to see something you've never seen before. I just don't know how that is possible. The mind will always come up with an answer. There are studies of anthropologists who report on tribes who can't see things like a ship (because it isn't in their framework) or a lady who left the Amazon jungle for the first time. She saw a man riding a donkey and it scared her because she had never seen a half human and half animal before. For myself, I have found "spaces" I call voids. There are no symbols, nothing, but there is some texture or some awareness of a sort. It might be a feeling of deep peace or awareness of presence. What is Chaol's definition of Truth? Anybody know? You'll find the definition in your second sentence. What is truth to you? Do yourself a favor and watch this amazing video. "Leonard Shlain proposes that the process of learning alphabetic literacy (left-brain) rewired the human brain, with profound consequences for culture." He demonstrates the upward curve humanity is in by combining the impact of archeology, myth and inventions on the mind. [link to youtu.be] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5877556 11/27/2012 03:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Hadn't seen that or maybe don't remember it. Anyway, thanks again. Quoting: Unit3 I'm still thinking about the first one you posted where he says truth is beyond perception. Why do I accept that statement? Yet, I know the mind fills in the blanks. But then somewhere, Chaol says the only way to expand your perspective is to see something you've never seen before. I just don't know how that is possible. The mind will always come up with an answer. There are studies of anthropologists who report on tribes who can't see things like a ship (because it isn't in their framework) or a lady who left the Amazon jungle for the first time. She saw a man riding a donkey and it scared her because she had never seen a half human and half animal before. For myself, I have found "spaces" I call voids. There are no symbols, nothing, but there is some texture or some awareness of a sort. It might be a feeling of deep peace or awareness of presence. What is Chaol's definition of Truth? Anybody know? You'll find the definition in your second sentence. Absolute truth is unknowable. Subjective truth, we've all got our own version. What is truth to you? |