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# Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Jesse Sovoda

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12/15/2012 08:12 AM
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How long would we have if the note was a calculation based on the speed of the expansion of the universe a a 5 of light speed and the note is from somebody in another universe coming at us at a speed that is,
a) slight slower than light speed so we get a 3 hour window to prevent a collision.

b) slightly faster than the speed of light so we get the news 3 hours after the collision has already taken place.

How would the notes differ?
Quoting: MHz

How is it possible for them to differ? Time is relative.
Quoting: Jesse Sovoda

I'm thinking that if the combined speed is slightly less than the speed of light and I happen to be looking in the right direction and I first spot it and it is doing 25% it will appear to me to be moving faster than it is, at 75% the closing rate will appear to be even faster. At anything over 100% (combined) it would not ever be visible as coming at me.
Quoting: MHz

The "top speed" of perception would have to be considered from each perspective. Once it becomes relative enough to you to be perceived it is confined to the conditions most logical to you. If there is no limit to perspective, I suppose you'd perceive it as is instead of limited by your narrative.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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I noticed more quietness which I guess could be attributed to the earth's spin. But, this is where I get confused, isn't this our perceptions? Aren't we assigning meaning to our experiences so we can understand it?

I will say that until the shooting today, even the front page of GLP was calm for a couple of days. One evening, there weren't even any doom threads pinned.
Quoting: Unit3

There was no shooting today. Just actors following a script. How can peoe not see that this is all faked?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2052219

Drama makes people feel alive.

Btw, I really wanted your response to if we are creating our perception!!!!!!
Quoting: Unit3

The act of perception is creation itself.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

So we are creating these perceptions? You created the slowing of the earth's spin? I created the quietness?
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

So I have created a Divine Source that created me (and everyone else)?
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
Unit3

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That's a great link! What about seeing both images at once? Maybe my abstract thinking has multiple personalities..
Quoting: CatCarel

Like this one?
Quoting: MHz

I do.

I like magic eye images too.

Quoting: Unit3

Well, my logic says that after looking at a bunch of these images last night before going to bed, I had freaky dreams. One of them involved me eating through a membrane to find a classroom of children and teacher stuck in 1959....being told Africa is in another time line and other things including magic.

Anyway, I woke in the night with a headache in the third eye with 3 wavy lines going from the center of it out in different directions.

Before I met Chaol, I would attach meanings to these dreams. Now I assume it's just an opening of space....the rest is immaterial.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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I do.

I like magic eye images too.

Quoting: Unit3

It wouldn't take long to find out who has epilepsy triggered by trying to focus on red and blue at the same time. lol

If you are into mind over body check out the 50 some eye-exercises that train you to self control the shape of your eye so you have perfect vision in 'telescope mode' or close-up wide angle. The palming one started out black with shooting lights sometimes. Later the blackness took on a bluish-gray that took over the black. That repeated itself and the background color changed over the time I did it. I already had glasses so the rest were read and parked for if I ever lost my glasses.

How about the time when sidewalk art isn't art?

I haven't kept up with the VR hardware for a decade but with things like gOOgle street view and some blueprints couldn't I build a VR set that I could turn into a 3 degrees of motion ride for the rec room or little trailer in the garage that could be linked for a weekend club event.
Dial up a 'quiet horse' and take the recorded view of some wilderness falls that is I-max quality with dial in wildlife setting so no momma grizzly is going to pop up. Trails could even be fed to the treadmills at the gyms if they purchase the 'items'

Did I mention the flight sims that operate out of the Caribou Mountains and can strike Edmonton or Calgary in a different sim that allows them to see races going on in 'real time'.
For the really bored and the one I was on had you feeling the tar marks on the runway which was cool, that it was an F-16 stuck on full throttle was also cool but a hang-glider over Angel falls would be better if you could do the driving yourself. For the gear-head Acme hardware has the parts to VR your daily driver in about 10 minutes just but a custom fit tub for a F-1 and enjoy being upside down and other g-force possibilities when run on a gyro platform and 220V motors. Cup holders still an option as an occasional hose down will be needed.

Movie companies already have a vast archive of art that could be transferred into interactive 3D at home, make the hardware free and charge for data sets or free data (and mods) and make money on hardware rather than both which leaves you with no customers at all.

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Well, my logic says that after looking at a bunch of these images last night before going to bed, I had freaky dreams. One of them involved me eating through a membrane to find a classroom of children and teacher stuck in 1959....being told Africa is in another time line and other things including magic.

Anyway, I woke in the night with a headache in the third eye with 3 wavy lines going from the center of it out in different directions.

Before I met Chaol, I would attach meanings to these dreams. Now I assume it's just an opening of space....the rest is immaterial.
Quoting: Unit3

Apparently idling the mind allows for random firing of 'keep things moving'.

One exercise that I was shown was to last 15 minutes or no more than 30 min in which (if you did have a headache) was to tell the muscles in your body to relax starting at the toes and fingers and working you way yo to telling your head to relax. Not getting them in the first place was the better solution, but that exercise also ended up in 'strange thoughts' being able to be held back for longer and longer the more it was practiced. Being able to not thing about something for that long is as 'healthy' as being able to focus on something specific for that long.

Not really sure is this applies to the thread theme.

How about a 'business' where words that are known trigger devices can be played to you in your dreams are packaged and the 'customer; is people who want to guide how their dreams start off, picking up where you left of isn't available in the 'base model'. lol
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
Unit3

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Well, my logic says that after looking at a bunch of these images last night before going to bed, I had freaky dreams. One of them involved me eating through a membrane to find a classroom of children and teacher stuck in 1959....being told Africa is in another time line and other things including magic.

Anyway, I woke in the night with a headache in the third eye with 3 wavy lines going from the center of it out in different directions.

Before I met Chaol, I would attach meanings to these dreams. Now I assume it's just an opening of space....the rest is immaterial.
Quoting: Unit3

Apparently idling the mind allows for random firing of 'keep things moving'.

One exercise that I was shown was to last 15 minutes or no more than 30 min in which (if you did have a headache) was to tell the muscles in your body to relax starting at the toes and fingers and working you way yo to telling your head to relax. Not getting them in the first place was the better solution, but that exercise also ended up in 'strange thoughts' being able to be held back for longer and longer the more it was practiced. Being able to not thing about something for that long is as 'healthy' as being able to focus on something specific for that long.

Not really sure is this applies to the thread theme.

How about a 'business' where words that are known trigger devices can be played to you in your dreams are packaged and the 'customer; is people who want to guide how their dreams start off, picking up where you left of isn't available in the 'base model'. lol
Quoting: MHz

All your sim ideas sound fun.

I'm not sure the mind was idle. I thought it was the opposite. I exercised it quite a bit looking through all those images. I"m like Cat...I could see both at the same time, then I would focus on one or the other. There was quite a bit of activity, actually.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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I'm not sure the mind was idle. I thought it was the opposite. I exercised it quite a bit looking through all those images. I"m like Cat...I could see both at the same time, then I would focus on one or the other. There was quite a bit of activity, actually.
Quoting: Unit3

With you that is a good thing for the world, in others they should find an idle mode for the sake of others.
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

How would you go about proving it to yourself?
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

No. The forum, thread, usernames, posts, etc. are props that, with interaction, create the perception of 'other people'. The posters would only say they are real because you believe yourself- and your perceptions- to be real.

'Cat Carel' is a means of exploring values in my perspective, as is my laptop, car, kitten, and shampoo.
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

No. The forum, thread, usernames, posts, etc. are props that, with interaction, create the perception of 'other people'. The posters would only say they are real because you believe yourself- and your perceptions- to be real.

'Cat Carel' is a means of exploring values in my perspective, as is my laptop, car, kitten, and shampoo.
Quoting: CatCarel

Btw, does anyone know what Chaol meant by 'GLP is not on the internet'?

Cat
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Straight question here and I would like a straight answer:

Do you feel you are real?
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

How would you go about proving it to yourself?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

By being a drama queen and creating perceptions.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

No. The forum, thread, usernames, posts, etc. are props that, with interaction, create the perception of 'other people'. The posters would only say they are real because you believe yourself- and your perceptions- to be real.

'Cat Carel' is a means of exploring values in my perspective, as is my laptop, car, kitten, and shampoo.
Quoting: CatCarel

Sure, it's all props....but are you saying you are not real? Not meaning the props, but whoever is exploring values?
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

No. The forum, thread, usernames, posts, etc. are props that, with interaction, create the perception of 'other people'. The posters would only say they are real because you believe yourself- and your perceptions- to be real.

'Cat Carel' is a means of exploring values in my perspective, as is my laptop, car, kitten, and shampoo.
Quoting: CatCarel

Btw, does anyone know what Chaol meant by 'GLP is not on the internet'?

Quoting: CatCarel

And if Chaol is so in charge of his perceptions, why is he living in a world that he doesn't like as much as this world? Why does he have a girlfriend that can only stay in his world a short time?

I'm not doubting Chaol....I really believe he doesn't have all the answers himself.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Straight question here and I would like a straight answer:

Do you feel you are real?
Quoting: Unit3

Sure I feel real.
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You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Straight question here and I would like a straight answer:

Do you feel you are real?
Quoting: Unit3

Sure I feel real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

My real thoughts and emotions from my higher self (Love) is real but other then that I believe life is an illusion.
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Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Straight question here and I would like a straight answer:

Do you feel you are real?
Quoting: Unit3

Sure I feel real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

My real thoughts and emotions from my higher self (Love) is real but other then that I believe life is an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724

Spirituality is the process of proactively discovering your

personal connection with the Creator, from a path of inner seeking. It is a self assessment of your own thoughts,

attitudes, and beliefs, the ability to consciously close off some of those things you have previously accepted and open yourself to new spiritual concepts.

This is known as spiritual advancement.

When a person is willing to learn and apply the principles of divinity in their life, they have spirituality evolved. Divinity helps you outwardly perceive the love and compassion in others,

you recognise that each person is a spiritual being and understand that each person are at different levels of spiritual growth.

When you incorporate divinity as an integral part of yourself and begin to externalise this “Christ” energy, the very nature of your reality changes.
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Btw, does anyone know what Chaol meant by 'GLP is not on the internet'?

Quoting: CatCarel

Anyone remember Chaol saying we'd probably not be using the internet by last december?
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You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
Quoting: Unit3

Are we?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Straight question here and I would like a straight answer:

Do you feel you are real?
Quoting: Unit3

Sure I feel real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

Thank you.

Aren't you aware you are real because of consciousness?

Chaol says consciousness does not exist. So, what are we? I can buy into a non-physical being, a spirit, dark matter...but all with consciousnesses.
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And if Chaol is so in charge of his perceptions, why is he living in a world that he doesn't like as much as this world? Why does he have a girlfriend that can only stay in his world a short time?

I'm not doubting Chaol....I really believe he doesn't have all the answers himself.
Quoting: Unit3

Has he actually said he doesn't like his world as much as ours?
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Straight question here and I would like a straight answer:

Do you feel you are real?
Quoting: Unit3

Sure I feel real.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

My real thoughts and emotions from my higher self (Love) is real but other then that I believe life is an illusion.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724

Spirituality is the process of proactively discovering your

personal connection with the Creator, from a path of inner seeking. It is a self assessment of your own thoughts,

attitudes, and beliefs, the ability to consciously close off some of those things you have previously accepted and open yourself to new spiritual concepts.

This is known as spiritual advancement.

When a person is willing to learn and apply the principles of divinity in their life, they have spirituality evolved. Divinity helps you outwardly perceive the love and compassion in others,

you recognise that each person is a spiritual being and understand that each person are at different levels of spiritual growth.

When you incorporate divinity as an integral part of yourself and begin to externalise this “Christ” energy, the very nature of your reality changes.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724

Agreed. However, Chaol says not to seek enlightenment. I gather he does not believe in Divinity.

Maybe the question is what is divinity?
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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And if Chaol is so in charge of his perceptions, why is he living in a world that he doesn't like as much as this world? Why does he have a girlfriend that can only stay in his world a short time?

I'm not doubting Chaol....I really believe he doesn't have all the answers himself.
Quoting: Unit3

Has he actually said he doesn't like his world as much as ours?
Quoting: Marshwiggle

Yes, he said this just before he left. A new poster asked him quite a few questions about his world. It's not too far back in this very thread.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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And if Chaol is so in charge of his perceptions, why is he living in a world that he doesn't like as much as this world? Why does he have a girlfriend that can only stay in his world a short time?

I'm not doubting Chaol....I really believe he doesn't have all the answers himself.
Quoting: Unit3

Has he actually said he doesn't like his world as much as ours?
Quoting: Marshwiggle

Yes, he said this just before he left. A new poster asked him quite a few questions about his world. It's not too far back in this very thread.
Quoting: Unit3

Thanks, I'll look for it
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Spirituality is the process of proactively discovering your

personal connection with the Creator, from a path of inner seeking. It is a self assessment of your own thoughts,

attitudes, and beliefs, the ability to consciously close off some of those things you have previously accepted and open yourself to new spiritual concepts.

This is known as spiritual advancement.

When a person is willing to learn and apply the principles of divinity in their life, they have spirituality evolved. Divinity helps you outwardly perceive the love and compassion in others,

you recognise that each person is a spiritual being and understand that each person are at different levels of spiritual growth.

When you incorporate divinity as an integral part of yourself and begin to externalise this “Christ” energy, the very nature of your reality changes.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724

Chaol doesn't refer to spirituality or divinity. He focuses on perspective, of course. And, as Unit points out, he says there is no consciousness, just perspective.
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And if Chaol is so in charge of his perceptions, why is he living in a world that he doesn't like as much as this world? Why does he have a girlfriend that can only stay in his world a short time?

I'm not doubting Chaol....I really believe he doesn't have all the answers himself.
Quoting: Unit3

Has he actually said he doesn't like his world as much as ours?
Quoting: Marshwiggle

Yes, he said this just before he left. A new poster asked him quite a few questions about his world. It's not too far back in this very thread.
Quoting: Unit3

Thanks, I'll look for it
Quoting: Marshwiggle

I found it and also rememberd another question I have. If Choal creates his perspective, why does he need a nexus point to travel back and forth between worlds? There is something I'm no understanding (or Chaol isn't) about our perception creating powers.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 218)
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Unit3

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12/16/2012 11:54 AM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Spirituality is the process of proactively discovering your

personal connection with the Creator, from a path of inner seeking. It is a self assessment of your own thoughts,

attitudes, and beliefs, the ability to consciously close off some of those things you have previously accepted and open yourself to new spiritual concepts.

This is known as spiritual advancement.

When a person is willing to learn and apply the principles of divinity in their life, they have spirituality evolved. Divinity helps you outwardly perceive the love and compassion in others,

you recognise that each person is a spiritual being and understand that each person are at different levels of spiritual growth.

When you incorporate divinity as an integral part of yourself and begin to externalise this “Christ” energy, the very nature of your reality changes.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15534724

Chaol doesn't refer to spirituality or divinity. He focuses on perspective, of course. And, as Unit points out, he says there is no consciousness, just perspective.
Quoting: Marshwiggle

How is there perspective without consciousness?
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
will we be here on this thread beyond september-october?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516296

Will you be posting on this thread beyond October?

Probably.

Beyond December?

Probably not.
Quoting: Chaol

will we be here on this thread beyond september-october?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1516296

Will you be posting on this thread beyond October?

Probably.

Beyond December?

Probably not.
Quoting: Chaol

Why not beyond December?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517925

The world is changing "rapidly" these days.

Certain technologies will not keep apace with the changes.

This website, and what it enables, may rely on those technologies that will become more irrelevant.
Quoting: Chaol

Are you guys ready for something weird?

The more high strangeness that occurs, the more you will realize you are entering the 'dream' world.

Clearly, when we're prepared for one thing something totally different happens.
Quoting: Chaol

Is it ecsys that will replace the Internet?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517925

No.

Horus-on-the-horizon will replace the internet.
Quoting: Chaol

Not exactly how I remembered it but, even so, I didn't expect to still be posting like this by now.