Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Wow, indeed.

Jesse, I've just gotten home from the ER/ICU after my partner had a very serious health issue/life-death thing come up. Will you please post next about how it all worked out great and you got a check in the mail for a million bucks? ;) I'll keep my eye out for mine, haha!

Thanks everyone here. May 2013 be even more entertaining... Ready for that rom-com where they all live happily ever after. I got a genius on it <3

Of course!



I think we'll save that for an other time.



If it is in your dreams it is all ready in your waking experience.

Unless you want to experience it the same way (from your interpretation)?



What do you mean, "...perceive it for everyone"?

Happy birthday, by the way!

Hi.

It would probably work better if it interacted more with your complete experience.

How much of your reality would you guess the landscaping outside of your subdivision comprises? That space as a possibly is okay but why not put the symbol in the place where you want to work?

(Also, the people inside the cars are probably not interacting with the space that much, from what I can tell.)

That we have someone to share our perspective is the reason we have ourselves.

Other people, of course, have other perspectives. (Rather, other aspects of our perspective.)

That there seem to be other perspectives is the reason we exist.

Combining perspectives (or wanting someone else to 'see it your way') is actually working against nature, so to speak.

No, not at all.

You need not see everything as one. It's okay to perceive duality and see things as "good" while others are "bad".

It's the reason we exist. Without the illusion of "other" there is no You.

There's nothing wrong with what you are doing now. It's okay to focus on the negative of things, because actually we are then focusing on an aspect of ourselves. We seem to think that we should be perceiving the 'good' in things. It's just something we make up for ourselves.

I'm saying that every experience is as valid as every other. A 'good' experience is not better than a 'bad' experience because it is our interpretation of the two experiences that make something good or bad. Actually, the experience is neither.

In one hand I am saying there's nothing wrong with your perspective. Wanting to change it because you don't see how it works is missing the point.

As most of us would say, there's a reason behind it.

I'm guessing that it's a way for your Genius to show you that you are the things you perceive and there is no difference. It's a realization that will probably never happen for most of us. It's something that takes (in terms of the clock) a very long time to realize.

So we go through existence experiencing things that do not seem like us.

"That is not me! I am different", or

"That is bad", et c. On and on and on.

Until you realize that our perspective is you.

Things would not come into your perspective without your consent because you are your perspective, even when you don't understand that you are.

Imagine the expanse of our universe. We can safely say that we don't know anything about it. We barely know about our own planet, history, and present goings-on.

That should tell us that pretty much everything we think and believe is only good temporarily (including what you are reading now) until something more useful comes along.

We see something as separate from us, or do not understand the nature of good/evil because we simply do not understand anything at all.

The only question would be, "How useful is it?"

So the question that I ask you is how useful is the "good" and "bad" in your experience? What does it do for you?

I will await your response to the question, "If someone is being mugged... where is it happening? Inside or outside of your perspective?"

Hi. I didn't answer that part of the question, so I'm not sure about the implication.

Just treat it as any other word. For a word you normally would use it in the proper context.

Same for your new word.

Yes, new words (values) are pretty fresh in perspective so the Genius pays more attention to them.

Hope this helps.

Simply put, you are moving away from physically-oriented perspective towards a more flexible dream-oriented perspective. (Though as I've mentioned before, the dream world is still a part of the physical world.)

The narrative for this (the "events") whether they be of the various suns in your universe, are just a way for you to make sense of it.

As I've noted on the Ecsys website this 'new' dream world emerges from 2001-2013.

So I suppose you could say that 2013 is the climax of the emergence.

It is the year when the subconscious comes out of the closet.

Hi, Jesse.

You've had an interesting experience, it sounds like. Perhaps eye-opening.

Are you more sure or less sure about your answer to the question, "...if she disappeared tomorrow where would that leave you?"

Again, apologies.

These posts have all been about you 'doing it yourself' to see what you are capable of doing.

It is all you.

Nice work.

Everyone on this thread may have similar experiences.

This is 2013, after all.

Are you ready?

This is it.

If a change in perspective scares you, there's nothing wrong with that. You need not change your perspective for anything. You have all of eternity to that.

How you are living, perceiving, doing, right now is perfectly fine. There is nothing else to do right now.

By participating in this thread, we can only assume that you are ready for the change.

So we will work together on a change of perspective that suits your intentions (you decide).

Enjoy the ride!

Last Edited by Chaol on 01/01/2013 05:04 AM

Hi Chaol,

How are you traveling to other countries etc. Do you work here? How did you get ID and stuff if your not from this world?

Sorry if this has already been asked, but how did you discover us? And when you say everything is about making relationships, how did you go about making the first relationship to our "universe", etc?

Hi.

I usually just get on a plane, nothing unusual. Interaction is important. If we just "teleported" everywhere then there'd be less of certain types of interaction.

This is my world, too, so it's not difficult to be the same as anyone else.

Your world is as much a part of my world as your dream world is to your world.

Our worlds are closely related, so discovery isn't an issue.

People are obsessed with Vampire movies right now. Is there a world where they exist, sorry about the trivial questions now.

I would like to learn more on manifesting reality.

Not that I know of. It's more of an interpretation of aspects of human nature rather than an illustration of alien life.

Most of what is seen in science fiction and fantasy are closer to home than not.



Do you think you're doing it now?

It's right about now. What's gonna happen?

Nothing that isn't all ready happening.

2 years and 2 months from 01/26/2011 would bring us to about April, which is quite near so I guess we'll know soon enough.

Happy new year to everyone on this thread. I am ready for the ride Chaol! Let's do this!

Happy new year. 2013 is sure to be entertaining for the enterprising minds among us.

Not-Chaol

Chaol, thanks for the advice. I'd like your input on this other model I made that I consider failed as the first company I made it for barred me from employment because of a close family member that works for the same company in an other city...I still can't figure out where it went wrong:

Genius Model: Getting a specific position with a particular company.

1. Symbol- a metal wiring wrapped around/stuck in a wine stopper with a toothpick stuck on top and a piece of a flower glued to the side. And a toll-road ticket attached to the side of the stopper.

2. Possibility- on top of my main dresser-drawer in my bedroom.

3. Interaction- everything in my room (it is set so that it has the highest vantage point of any thing in the room.

3. Logic- Each night before I go to bed I grab the wire 'handle' I made and say the name of the company 3 times. Each time I walk into my room I flick the toll ticket. Every morning I tear of a piece of paper and write a letter of the company's name on it and stick it onto the toothpick.

After the first company was completely spelled out, I got notice that I couldn't work there...but I still kept up with the model (just changed the company I wanted).

Help!? Thanks!

I am not sure if I really understand the question anymore (I suppose, now, it doesn't make sense). Every moment disappears as the next comes into focus. In the same way, the person that I had perceived my wife to be, has disappeared and I believe I have a better focus on her.

As the ball dropped and the clock ticked over to 2013, she said "new years resolution, this year I will not be careless". I resolved to "be more understanding".

We hosted a great 2013 New years party last night. Nothing went "wrong" and it looks like there are wonderful curiosities looming on the horizon.

OK, we'll save your dream experiences for another time even though you really have my curiosity now. Sometimes I sure wish we weren't limited to a public forum. ;o) My hope is to make my virtual reality world my waking world pretty soon.

Yes, I desire my interpretation of my dream experience to be in my waking experience...and not just for me but for everybody.

What I mean is I want to experience myself and the world I see, living this way.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/01/2013 09:12 PM

Hi Chaol,

I bolded 2 of your statements above. My questions are:

1) It sounds like you feel the Genius teaches us. So how does the subconscious have more of a commitment to Truth than the conscious part of ourselves?

2) Is there always a split between conscious self and the subconscious?

3) Why do you feel the realization that we are all we perceive something that may never happen for most of us? Do you have this realization?

4) One last question re: one of my Genius maps. I went out today, as usual, with 5 symbols in my hand. One of the places I needed to deliver them was closed. So, at first, I was going to keep them in my hand until I got home, but that got tiresome, so I stuck them in my purse.

I figure I now have to make new symbols to replace these, so what do I do with the old symbols now? I can separate some of them and I could burn the paper ones. Otherwise, I don't know how to dispose of them. Or, does it not matter what I do with them once I make the new symbols to replace them?

Thanks

A few questions, first... do you think that the bolded part above is an illustration of your Genius making the map more obvious to you?

For your interaction element, how did your symbol interact?

Also, I would suggest not making it something specific (as we've discussed before) but making it something that represents your wish. [This I see as the main issue]

For example, instead of "Getting a specific position with a particular company", try, "walking to my office at Plxxxx"

Hope this helps.

I don't want to be too specific on this forum, but my question was more of, "If she died, would you die too?"

But as you mentioned you are on the other side of the fence, so to speak. Possibilities abound :)

Your world is my dream experience. My world is yours. (Sometimes you guys are all over the place but usually you're somewhere in my world.) But I suppose we'll go into more detail at an other time.

Your dream interpretation is, by nature, different from your waking interpretation of the same experience.

Aren't you everybody? But why would you want the other things in your perspective to experience your perspective?

hi.

1) No, not 'teaching' per se. It's more of the way things work rather than a lesson. The more you 'split' this concept of You in your perspective the more attraction/repulsion will be experienced, and the drama of life comes out of this.

As I've mentioned before, Truth is irrelevant.

2)There is no real split. There's only the illusion of it. The conscious is an aspect of the subconscious. (But from our perspective it seems different.) They are essentially the same thing. But for purposes of explanation I almost all ways call them out separately.

3) Because we don't want to realize it. It goes against nature. There's nothing wrong with understanding that you are (and we often pretend we do because we inherently understand this). But the more we understand something the more it is possible that we realize that we are nothing-in-particular. And that's frightening.

I don't care for the realization that I am everything. It's kind of boring, in my opinion. I'd much rather divide my perspective and create drama, and forget.

4) If "One of the places I needed to deliver them was closed" then I suppose you missed where you were supposed to put it ;) This is an example of how we usually think we know what's best but when the Genius is 'showing' us the map we tend to ignore it.

You need not make new symbols. They're still valid (as long as the intention wasn't specific to the place that you will no longer put them).

As to interaction, other than being in the same environment as everything in my bedroom, there is no special 'interaction' taking place. It is stationary.

Yes, I can see how it would be making the map more obvious in one way; although, in an other way I see it as a failed Genius because that particular model was for that particular company position for which I was barred. However, our discussion on this has helped me to see that I have been confusing my Genius's (Genii??). I know some of my earliest Models for the new job contradicted themselves. I have my subconscious twisting fits. I need to start a new.

This brings up a question as to whether we need do anything 'special' when discarding previous Models. Do I just abandon the Model, or what?

I will make a new Model tomorrow with a less specific desired intent. As all ways, thanks so much for all your help.

And happy New Year to all here. It's going to bee a crazy awesome 2013!!

There's no need for the symbol to interact with your environment, but it would really help.

You can start with 1 good Genius model.

When discarding a symbol you can just toss it or dismantle it. No need to do anything special. The power is in your perspective rather than the symbol itself.

hehe.. your models were fighting