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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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/snip/

Try something more used for its space for your Possibility element.

Do others in your perspective use your body for its space? Or do you?

When you have a new element you may want to re-do interaction according to it.

Then we will rock this model!
 Quoting: Chaol



I'm lost as to what you're saying here. Can you please clarify the above statements and also give me some 'for instance'....?

Thanks. I want to rock a model so bad!!!! Oh just for an inkling of understanding....
 Quoting: X Won 1407931



XWon, imo, you showed us a wonderful way to use a symbol. Remember when you took one to the classroom and people picked it up and talked about it? That was amazing and opened my eyes. You do have an inkling. But I'm with you as far as there is still so much to learn.

I would love to rock a model. And I'm thinking I need to do one for a "soft landing."

Chaol, would you check this one for me? It's for a soft landing as things change and I'd like it to rock too. (I'm having difficulty with the desire part but I think the rest might be ok.)

Desire: Laughter during May, 2013
Symbol: Paperclip with orange mark and carpet fuzz taped to it.
Space: Bedroom window sill (or would outside the sill be better?)
Interaction: Sunlight, people coming into the room, cars driving by window, people walking by on the street.
Logic: Will open window on Wednesdays and say: "I am "boguy" and having fun." boguy=laughing in May, 2013. Cars will drive by window, sunlight comes in window, people walk by on the street talking, air will circulate around it on Wednesdays when the window is open. Will raise my eyebrows every time someone comes in the room on Wednesdays. Will mark 4. every time I laugh on Wednesdays.

Edit: Also, I have about 5 Genius plans right now. And, I make the symbols for them in the same room before I take them out. And I have 2 symbols that stay in that room most of the time, except for when they are scheduled to leave.

PLUS, remember I found the piece of furniture that I knew was my symbol? It's not in a Genius plan but it's in the same room. So, my question is, am I messing everything up by having all those symbols in the same space even though it's my space? I'm thinking I could get rid of all the Genius plans except this soft landing one or else reduce to this soft landing one and one of the others. What do you think?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

Aren't you using that Symbol for something else?

Regardless, the idea of creating these physical Genius models is so that we can more easily learn (Karate Kid-style) how to do it mentally. The same process would be at work, so I suppose you'd have the same questions.

You could have multiple symbols in the same space though I would not recommend it. Better to use other spaces for it. (The possibilities would decrease when it's more crowded.)

There's so much space from which to choose! It would be ironic, I suppose, if you had a hard time finding space for your "possibility" element =O
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I don't know why I try to slip something by you. So far, you catch me every dang time! I was lazy and just using this symbol as an example. I was planning on changing the symbol if I use this Genius!

Actually, I'm thinking of using only this Genius because it's the only one that does not have resistance in it (to me, anyway). And I am thinking about ditching the others even though I'm about 1/2 way through with them.

Iow, they could be getting close to making something happen and that's probably important for me to see too. At the same time, I don't think it's wise for me to use so many Genius plans at one time either because I'm not even in grade school with all this yet. (Hopefully I'm at least in pre-school, heh!)

Yes, there is a lot of space to use once the symbols are outside the house. But for me, I only have one complete room to myself and the rest is shared space. The piece of furniture symbol has to stay in this one room along with the most expensive piece of artwork I have, which is another space I use for a symbol. Also, I make my symbols in this room, usually a day before I'm going to distribute them.

If I cut down on my Genius plans, heh, then I could eliminate some of the symbols. And, I'm thinking the symbol for the soft landing could be on my outside window sill instead of inside.

So the desire part is ok in this soft-landing Genius? (I had a hard time figuring that one out.)

Thanks Chaol! hf
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Wow, this looks very interesting. Thanks.
And are you the author?
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Xwon,

Examples of things used for space include envelopes, drawers, bottles, cans, etc.

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Thanks, Noch :)
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Okay, let me try it from this angle.

I visited Prince George Island, BC where there is no hunting allowed. Therefore, the deer played tag all around us and the atmosphere was of a high energy for everyone. Would you say this was an unnatural environment? Were the deer and humans going against nature?

We are evolving into a different type physicality, why not also a different type psychology?

I love hot sauce too. Here's a great recipe to use it in:
Thread: Greens, black-eyed peas n' cornbread, easy skillet recipe for New Year's Day

However, for the game in my dream, I'd just as soon use water or whipped cream. So, why did you ask about my last dream? heh!
 Quoting: Unit3


I love angles!
 Quoting: Chaol

Since you love angles, heh, let's try this one.

I've talked with you about how a lot of things are done from the "spiritual" within this world. I've seen and done things myself, that seem "supernatural"....and so have some close friends of mine.

Some of these activities seem extraordinary. Such things as reading people's minds, precognition, affecting reality in various ways, bi-location, NDE and on and on. Some report they are born with these abilities and did them as a child.

Even though these abilities may have been achieved through "unnatural" ways, how do you explain these things?
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Imagine that in 5 years pre-cognition became an accepted fact and everyone was experiencing it. Journals and papers were written, and someone even won the Nobel prize. [Just fantasy.. humor me] News reports worked it into their stories, society in general worked it into its psyche.

Would it still be extraordinary? After many years it would just be human nature. Eventually it would be forgotten that there was a time that it was quite unusual, aye, unbelievable that humans lived without the ability.

The most amazing human feats abound, often without participants realizing the wonder that just occurred. That we are even able to speak and communicate with one-another is amazing in itself. We have senses of sight, sound, taste... And the ability to reason.

All of these things that we take for granted would be considered no less than "supernatural" to our distant ancestors. Even the act of running to the water fountain is magic.

They can be explained as you just did. Abilities.

What some call supernatural or spiritual I just call perspective. And all of the above cannot seem to be without it.
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Good, I'm glad to hear all of this. However, as far as I know, all of us in this world do a lot of these things through spiritual manipulations. However, I have to admit, some I don't know how I do.

Anyway, now, I'd like to ask you this. Since you don't work with the spiritual, how did you determine that Tuuuuuuur had a moon colored symbol for his Peugeot Genius? ;o)

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FYI: I read this morning's posts here and felt a wave come over me.

So, I went outside to take a walk and looked up. The clouds looked like ocean waves. wtf I found a photo that looks like what I saw.

[link to flic.kr]

I'll be back later.

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


We had those on dec 21st...

I am sort of time travelling right now, stitching a reproduction of a 'merklap' my grandmother made in 1917; and I got a message from my dad that he has a photo of my great-grandmother for me. There are almost no pictures of her; it's the 3rd I know of...
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I'm amazed you know the date you had those clouds.

Looks like you're good at time travel, my friend! This is similar to the car, eh? What year car model was the one you wanted to purchase?

How's the stitching?

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These posts have all been about you 'doing it yourself' to see what you are capable of doing.

It is all you.

Nice work.
 Quoting: Chaol


I think I -really- see it now, strange being sat inside and knowing.

I cant explain getting to a point and appreciating a 'distraction'.

I will find a particular quote of yours when I have time about forgetting, it rings true but I cant quite recall.

I see the purpose.

Brilliant experience to learn indeed, which reminds me, I should reply in the other thread too. ;)

Imagine that in 5 years pre-cognition became an accepted fact and everyone was experiencing it. Journals and papers were written, and someone even won the Nobel prize. [Just fantasy.. humor me] News reports worked it into their stories, society in general worked it into its psyche.

Would it still be extraordinary? After many years it would just be human nature. Eventually it would be forgotten that there was a time that it was quite unusual, aye, unbelievable that humans lived without the ability.

The most amazing human feats abound, often without participants realizing the wonder that just occurred. That we are even able to speak and communicate with one-another is amazing in itself. We have senses of sight, sound, taste... And the ability to reason.

All of these things that we take for granted would be considered no less than "supernatural" to our distant ancestors. Even the act of running to the water fountain is magic.

They can be explained as you just did. Abilities.

What some call supernatural or spiritual I just call perspective. And all of the above cannot seem to be without it.
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Funny how you mentioned pre-cognition. Pringles.

Your past recent few pages of material seem to co-inside with the past few days of my life, very interesting, as always thanks for sharing.







Another Mental Genius Example what worked instantly..well sort of.

So! My head phones were getting pretty old, one of the ears was beginning to only work when the wire was a certain way and it wouldn't work all the time, normally I would of carried on using them for as long as possible, but I thought #@&! it, I will use the Genius to get some new ones. (show trust and faith is my point here)

So I mentally drew a symbol, it really was a random squiggle to "perceive bringing some new headphones to my perspective" and I tell no lies, instantly my phone delivered an email from a sports company I had purchased things from previously saying "massive savings up to 70% off head phones offer ends today"

3 days later they were on my ears.

What else needs saying :) very happy with the product too!
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You only did a mental symbol....and no Genius plan?
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Not far in, so far pretty interesting. Thank you.
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I think the dream makes sense in both realities because it was about the feeling of freedom and having fun with friends. I think my waking mind used these concepts to explain it so it makes sense to me.
 Quoting: Unit3


I see.

So what part of the "chasing people", "squirt bottles", and "hot sauce" experience do you think was a dream world experience (and not an interpretation of it)?
 Quoting: Chaol

I think all three of those are the interpretation of the dreamworld experience.
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So imagine that you weren't dreaming of it... interpreting stimuli while awake.

Really, you never actually fall asleep. You are all ways aware.

What we call sleeping or dreaming is simply your interpretation of other values that are not so relative to where you're standing now (With "going to sleep" the act of making that transition.)

We interpret those foreign values all the time while not "sleeping". We may find ourselves daydreaming, with missing time, in a coma, being in situations that don't make sense to us, et c.

So, "gui7lus minor tresemble.II" in one perspective (dreaming) becomes "chasing people" in an other (thinking about your dream).

Both are interpretations of the same thing. But your waking mind does not remember "gui7lus minor tresemble.II" because it is not relative to it. Instead, it interprets the geometry of relationships in a way that does make sense and comes up with "chasing people".

And so (most importantly) we are chasing people in a dream and cashing checks while awake.

(While awake, we are also interpreting these relationships. We are not really looking at a monitor reading these words, since an absolute monitor cannot possibly exist. Our "reality" is comprised entirely of interpreting relationships.)

And so, the value of interaction (so that there could be relationships) and the meaninglessness of One-ness.
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And Ec helps us to interpret relationships we might otherwise not be aware of?

I know you've made the statement that the subconscious is coming out of the closet, so is this what we are talking about here? The experience of the dream world? And isn't the dreamworld a matrix also?

Thanks

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Xwon,

Examples of things used for space include envelopes, drawers, bottles, cans, etc.

Not-Chaol
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Thanks, Noch :)
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Noch! I love it! :))
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Xwon,

Examples of things used for space include envelopes, drawers, bottles, cans, etc.

Not-Chaol
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Thanks, Noch :)
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Noch! I love it! :))
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:-)

I am opting for Notch... :-D
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FYI: I read this morning's posts here and felt a wave come over me.

So, I went outside to take a walk and looked up. The clouds looked like ocean waves. wtf I found a photo that looks like what I saw.

[link to flic.kr]

I'll be back later.

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


We had those on dec 21st...

I am sort of time travelling right now, stitching a reproduction of a 'merklap' my grandmother made in 1917; and I got a message from my dad that he has a photo of my great-grandmother for me. There are almost no pictures of her; it's the 3rd I know of...
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I'm amazed you know the date you had those clouds.

Looks like you're good at time travel, my friend! This is similar to the car, eh? What year car model was the one you wanted to purchase?

How's the stitching?
 Quoting: Unit3


dec 21st was not hard to forget... the presumed end-date of the mayan calendar!

The car I was after was from 1937.

I guess I could use the stitching as a genius for something... maybe finally being out of financial problems is a good one.

My wife, mother-in-law and my own mother say I have a talent for stitching... here's how far I got (the blue-yellow one is mine, white-red is grandma's)

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]
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FYI: I read this morning's posts here and felt a wave come over me.

So, I went outside to take a walk and looked up. The clouds looked like ocean waves. wtf I found a photo that looks like what I saw.

[link to flic.kr]

I'll be back later.

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


We had those on dec 21st...

I am sort of time travelling right now, stitching a reproduction of a 'merklap' my grandmother made in 1917; and I got a message from my dad that he has a photo of my great-grandmother for me. There are almost no pictures of her; it's the 3rd I know of...
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I'm amazed you know the date you had those clouds.

Looks like you're good at time travel, my friend! This is similar to the car, eh? What year car model was the one you wanted to purchase?

How's the stitching?
 Quoting: Unit3


dec 21st was not hard to forget... the presumed end-date of the mayan calendar!

The car I was after was from 1937.

I guess I could use the stitching as a genius for something... maybe finally being out of financial problems is a good one.

My wife, mother-in-law and my own mother say I have a talent for stitching... here's how far I got (the blue-yellow one is mine, white-red is grandma's)

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]
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Cool. When I looked at your image, I imagined a framed stitched version of the ec language pronunciation chart( [link to ecsys.org] or the table with that the characters are drawn on( [link to ecsys.org]

I've had the pronunciation chart up at work for a long time, only two people have asked me about it so far. I find it very interesting how they interpret my explanation of what it is.

Coworker-"Hey Jesse what is that?"

Me-"It's a pronunciation chart for a subjective language that allows us to perceive and think outside of the box our language confines us to."

Coworker-"Oh, is that what you use?"

Me-"Not yet, I'm still working to memorize the characters"

Coworker-"What will that do for you?"

Me-"It will allow me to expand my ability to think beyond the confines of the language I was born into."

Coworker-"Have you tried to learn Spanish?"

Me-"Nope"

(lol)
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Everything from the Geometry of Relationships: The Origin of the Universe

I've spoken before about the geometry of relationships that make up our perspective.

You can see a summary here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The following is a reference to an understanding of the building blocks of physicality.

Here is how the Genius works to 'create' your reality...

(It may help to imagine the symbols of the elements from [link to ecsys.org] during the following illustration; the point, the sphere, the line, the hybrid identified by "Common Symbol")

Symbol
In the beginning, if you will, you represent nothing-in-particular (that which cannot be perceived) with a single point.

This act of symbolizing nothing-in-particular with a single point (even if illusory) creates the entire universe.

Think of Michelangelo's famous fresco, the Big Bang, the beginning of time and space, the Flying Spaghetti Monster's embarkation point, the origin of the universe.

This is the beginning of perspective. Symbologically, it is saying, "I can see this"

Possibility
The point is the first space where something is (or seems to be).

It is “Symbol without Interaction”

Without a logic there is no means by which to interact. No protocol.

Logic
Logic pierces through the sphere of possibility, organizing possibility.

Imagine the line of logic making its way through the sphere. If it were not organized in some way it would not be able to penetrate.

Logic is the "ordering of possibility"

Interaction
This unveils interaction, a network of symbols (values) united in the center by a nexus point. This is symbolized by the 6 points of the symbol that is comprised of the two points of logic (beginning and end) and the now 4 points of possibility. This

Interaction is “Logic with possibility” as the line, or order, of logic penetrates into possibility and enables interaction.

Interaction enables a network of values to become logical, allowing for relationships between things, creating consciousness and perspective.
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Creating Reality

We've discussed briefly about the Genius and how we can in a way influence our perspective via the subconscious mind.

Some of us have created physical symbols (per the Genius) that work with our subconscious to lead us to new perspectives.

The physical Genius models that we've played with are of course stepping-stones to a far more powerful tool; the mental Genius model.

The mental Genius model is actually the same as the physical model. (As both physical and mental models are a part of your physically-oriented perspective.)

The difference between the two is that with the mental model we are increasing the possibilities for interaction. Thus, interaction increases. This is translated into your experience as on-the-fly changes to your perspective (reality) and what would be called infinite possibilities, experiencing a universe that you cannot begin to translate into classical words.

Here's how to do it...

As with the physical genius model we represent our desired perspective. For the beginner, they can do it in an obvious way (e.g., I want a new house so I will make a model out of toothpicks). This works to form connections between present (toothpicks) and future (new house) representations of what you want.

The Genius unveils a map of where you want to go. How 'soon' you experience it depends on how relative where you want to go is to where you are now.

For a somewhat more advanced use of the Genius let the Genius (your subconscious) take over. This one is a bit more difficult to figure out but I suppose you can say it's about trusting your subconscious. You have only to represent what you want in any way you can imagine. The Genius finds a way to make it work.

For example, you could represent your new house with a bundle of sticks tied together with a tin-foil hat. Your subconscious mind has all ready made the connection before you thought of it. You do not need to make it obvious. You do not need to 'drive it home'. As everything exists as a value in the geometry of relationships the symbol that you have made represents a value in your desired perspective.

It does not matter what the symbol is, only that it is unique so that your subconscious knows that X = XYZ. It basically says, "Your new house is equal to your bundle of sticks with a tin-foil on top? Great! It's even easier to work with since it's here and now so let me show you how to get to where you want to go."

So your Genius relates the bundle of tin-foil hat-wearing sticks to the new house. At this exact point the sticks and the house share the same geometry of relationships (or somewhere in the neighborhood).

Your conscious mind will want to interfere with the process. Learn to realize when it is doing this. Leave it to your subconscious (you know, the really, really smart one) to figure it out for you.

So now your new house all ready exists in your current perspective (as the bundle of sticks) so then you create logic, possibility, and develop interactions in order for you to explore its possibilities.

You are uncovering the path to your new house and your bundle of sticks is pointing the way. Oftentimes it will not be a direct route. It may give you hints and clues.. this is the map at work. You may set out to go to an open house but instead your car and your phone break down and you find yourself asking a homeless person to crack a dollar. The conscious mind wants to think, "This is not part of my plan!" But it is not your plan. It is the Genius' plan and it is up to you to be open to possibility and interaction. The homeless person could be an integral part of the map.

Every "possibility" is a value in the geometry of relationships. (This is very important to remember)

...and one of those possibilities is your new house that you can walk in.

Again, by telling your subconscious that X = XYZ you are simultaneously drawing XYZ closer to X.

You then explore the possibilities of X. One of those possibilities is XYZ. The rest is just the story that your mind needs in order to relate X to XYZ. Let your Genius figure out how to make this logical in your reality.
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As an addendum to the above, the enterprising mind may want to think about how I work with the Genius.

Of course I will not tell you how exactly (figuring it out is half of the fun!) but I will tell you a story.

There once was a boy named Peter,
who wanted to teleport far far away.
His dog had died and his mother cursed,
and he just wanted to escape that day.

"Oh how! How can I get the fudge out of my fridge?", said he
When his eyes had cleared from the heart that teared,
magically there appeared a genie.

"Aren't you the genie from the last story?", said Peter.

"Indeed, but you're not to remember that anymore!", the genie said, surprised.
"What else do you remember from before?"

"I remember that if I symbolize a place I wish to be,
and make sure not to forget the other three,
then my world will change", spoke Peter.

"Is that all? And then you're free?" asked the genie.

Peter remembered, "No. Not just yet. I must narrow my range!"
The genie raised his eyebrow.
Peter continued, "Instead of visualizing it in time space I must relate here with there.
I can think of any random thing, from a rolling meadow to a stray hair.
..and make it weird!"

"You are correct. Well done!" said the genie, twisting his beard.
"It is when we see where we wish to go here and now that we see the portal to it. And by making up a logic for that thing we pull ourselves there as our mind relates the there-logic to the here-logic. Indeed, the logic is our path."

"Of course!" exclaimed Peter.
"The logic is our path.
"I need not know how. I need not do the maths.
"I need only think of something-anything-and my mind will start to make sense of it, at the same time taking me to where I wish to go!"

And in a satisfied puff of smoke, the genie disappeared.

Peter was soon to follow.

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/snips/

FYI: I read this morning's posts here and felt a wave come over me.

So, I went outside to take a walk and looked up. The clouds looked like ocean waves. wtf I found a photo that looks like what I saw.

[link to flic.kr]

I'll be back later.

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


We had those on dec 21st...

I am sort of time travelling right now, stitching a reproduction of a 'merklap' my grandmother made in 1917; and I got a message from my dad that he has a photo of my great-grandmother for me. There are almost no pictures of her; it's the 3rd I know of...
 Quoting: tuuuuur




I'm amazed you know the date you had those clouds.

Looks like you're good at time travel, my friend! This is similar to the car, eh? What year car model was the one you wanted to purchase?

How's the stitching?
 Quoting: Unit3


dec 21st was not hard to forget... the presumed end-date of the mayan calendar!

The car I was after was from 1937.

I guess I could use the stitching as a genius for something... maybe finally being out of financial problems is a good one.

My wife, mother-in-law and my own mother say I have a talent for stitching... here's how far I got (the blue-yellow one is mine, white-red is grandma's)

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]
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Oh yes, the 12/21/12 thingy. I'm surprised there aren't more people discussing what happened, LOL!

1937 and you actually found the body of one. Yup, I'd say you're a time traveler all right.

What do you mean use the stitching as a genius? My genius plans start with a sensible desire, go to a nonsense symbol which then fits into a sensible space to be followed by nonsense logic, heh!

You are good at stitching...or as Chaol would say, good at the geometry of relationships for handiwork! tounge
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We had those on dec 21st...

I am sort of time travelling right now, stitching a reproduction of a 'merklap' my grandmother made in 1917; and I got a message from my dad that he has a photo of my great-grandmother for me. There are almost no pictures of her; it's the 3rd I know of...
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I'm amazed you know the date you had those clouds.

Looks like you're good at time travel, my friend! This is similar to the car, eh? What year car model was the one you wanted to purchase?

How's the stitching?
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dec 21st was not hard to forget... the presumed end-date of the mayan calendar!

The car I was after was from 1937.

I guess I could use the stitching as a genius for something... maybe finally being out of financial problems is a good one.

My wife, mother-in-law and my own mother say I have a talent for stitching... here's how far I got (the blue-yellow one is mine, white-red is grandma's)

[link to farm9.staticflickr.com]
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Cool. When I looked at your image, I imagined a framed stitched version of the ec language pronunciation chart( [link to ecsys.org] or the table with that the characters are drawn on( [link to ecsys.org]

I've had the pronunciation chart up at work for a long time, only two people have asked me about it so far. I find it very interesting how they interpret my explanation of what it is.

Coworker-"Hey Jesse what is that?"

Me-"It's a pronunciation chart for a subjective language that allows us to perceive and think outside of the box our language confines us to."

Coworker-"Oh, is that what you use?"

Me-"Not yet, I'm still working to memorize the characters"

Coworker-"What will that do for you?"

Me-"It will allow me to expand my ability to think beyond the confines of the language I was born into."

Coworker-"Have you tried to learn Spanish?"

Me-"Nope"

(lol)
hf
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LOL! Jesse, you went over their heads so they just glazed over and went to sleep and never even knew you had a conversation, heh!

Try saying, I'm reprogramming my brain so I can get stuff I want. (I'd love to hear what they say to that, hehe!)
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Your possibility element could be your hat, your shoes, a room, a wall, a field (if used).. anything used for its space.

It does not really matter what it is, though you may have different kinds of success with different kinds of spaces.

Each element has a secret life as every other kind of element. A symbol element is also an interaction, possibility, and logic element. (There's only 1 element, fundamentally interpreted 4 different ways in our perspective.)

So, the Possibility element that you use (whatever space you choose) represents (is a symbol for the) possibility and adopts its function. (That's why it doesn't matter so much what kind of space you choose.)

Hope this helps =D
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Ok, so I will keep all the other elements the same, but the possibility element will now be my wallet, which I will keep in my left front pocket where I usually keep my money clip. My reasoning for this choice is twofold: 1. The symbol represents my security/clearance I.D. for my new job and 2. I will keep it in a space usually reserved for my cash money...thus doing/representing some thing in a different way in my attempt to perceive an other situation where I'll be getting a new job that leads to much more [money].

Yes, Chaol, your illustratin helped a lot. Thanks! And it certainly fits my bill that I would have trouble finding space for possibility...I'm a huge sucker for irony.

Also, thanks to Unit3 and Not-Chaol for your words and advice.

So, Chaol, any thing else before I put this Model to work??
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It sounds ready.

Let me know of your progress.
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Everything from the Geometry of Relationships: The Origin of the Universe

I've spoken before about the geometry of relationships that make up our perspective.

You can see a summary here: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The following is a reference to an understanding of the building blocks of physicality.

Here is how the Genius works to 'create' your reality...

(It may help to imagine the symbols of the elements from [link to ecsys.org] during the following illustration; the point, the sphere, the line, the hybrid identified by "Common Symbol")

Symbol
In the beginning, if you will, you represent nothing-in-particular (that which cannot be perceived) with a single point.

This act of symbolizing nothing-in-particular with a single point (even if illusory) creates the entire universe.

Think of Michelangelo's famous fresco, the Big Bang, the beginning of time and space, the Flying Spaghetti Monster's embarkation point, the origin of the universe.

This is the beginning of perspective. Symbologically, it is saying, "I can see this"

Possibility
The point is the first space where something is (or seems to be).

It is “Symbol without Interaction”

Without a logic there is no means by which to interact. No protocol.

Logic
Logic pierces through the sphere of possibility, organizing possibility.

Imagine the line of logic making its way through the sphere. If it were not organized in some way it would not be able to penetrate.

Logic is the "ordering of possibility"

Interaction
This unveils interaction, a network of symbols (values) united in the center by a nexus point. This is symbolized by the 6 points of the symbol that is comprised of the two points of logic (beginning and end) and the now 4 points of possibility. This

Interaction is “Logic with possibility” as the line, or order, of logic penetrates into possibility and enables interaction.

Interaction enables a network of values to become logical, allowing for relationships between things, creating consciousness and perspective.
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Wow...I see I've got some studying to do. (This post and I see 2 more.)

Thanks so much Chaol. hf

This will probably take me a while so I'll see you guys later. afro
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Thanks Chaol for the last posts. They are very enlightening! Having just shifted perspective I have had to sort my flat back in the UK out and get it rented. I have carried on my genius success and have one model I made 3 days ago FOR £700 per month minimum from tenants with great personality. We had previous offers of £550 and £625 yesterday (from agents) but today we have someone moving in paying £700 a month! The mortgage is just under £400 so this is quite a good deal! So my just created genius gave me exactly what I wanted within days!

I got in a flurry of genius models a few days ago and have 3 on the go at the moment. My question is regarding old models that have been discarded. My genius model for my dream house made it over to Canada with me but I threw it away a couple of weeks in. So happy with my new perspective (that included the most gorgeous newborn baby niece ever created) I felt like I was pretty much living in a dream house I guess! I still want my dream house and my perspective has been pretty dreamy so far but of course I still want MY dream home! Now here in Canada, not in the UK where the genius model was conceived. So do I make a new model or is the model still active though discarded.

Thanking you in advance for your response hf
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You walk down the same street going to work 100 times.

You follow the same logic 100 times.

Variations occur but it's all pretty much the same experience.

On the 101st time, a portal to an other world appears.

Was the same logic followed?

If this portal is a value in your perspective was your perspective following the same logic as the previous 100 times?

Your mind randomly creates logic and creates a whole world around it.

There is an endless variety of logic, as many kinds as there are supposed stars in the universe. (And Chaos is a logic that we do not yet understand.)

When we go to sleep we follow the same logic that we have made up for the 'sleep' experience.

Make up new logic and you simultaneously 'create' a new perspective.

The question that our conscious minds want to ask is, "How do I make a logic from Point A to Point B that makes sense to me?"

...not realizing that it need not make sense to you now because your Genius will make it make sense.

And that is why the conscious mind does not know what it does (and thus the idea of the subconscious is born).

Perspective (or consciousness) comes from the relationship between two things. But it is Logic that draws the line from one thing to an other to give meaning to perspective.

In order to experience a new reality you can think of something that does not make sense to you today and find a way to make it make sense to you tomorrow.

You can use the Genius to map it out, of course. But the above is to show you that your mind can (and does) make sense of an endless variety of possibilities.
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Just found an interesting thing that you said Chaol:

"Incidentally, I have a device which can not only detect these nexus points but also change their values."

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) (Page 42)

I'll keep reading to see if you talk about this device later in the thread but I'd like to hear more about it.

And how does this device work with what you said here regarding my question in how you determine nexus points?

"My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics."

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49)

Thanks
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As an addendum to the above, the enterprising mind may want to think about how I work with the Genius.

Of course I will not tell you how exactly (figuring it out is half of the fun!) but I will tell you a story.

There once was a boy named Peter,
who wanted to teleport far far away.
His dog had died and his mother cursed,
and he just wanted to escape that day.

"Oh how! How can I get the fudge out of my fridge?", said he
When his eyes had cleared from the heart that teared,
magically there appeared a genie.

"Aren't you the genie from the last story?", said Peter.

"Indeed, but you're not to remember that anymore!", the genie said, surprised.
"What else do you remember from before?"

"I remember that if I symbolize a place I wish to be,
and make sure not to forget the other three,
then my world will change", spoke Peter.

"Is that all? And then you're free?" asked the genie.

Peter remembered, "No. Not just yet. I must narrow my range!"
The genie raised his eyebrow.
Peter continued, "Instead of visualizing it in time space I must relate here with there.
I can think of any random thing, from a rolling meadow to a stray hair.
..and make it weird!"

"You are correct. Well done!" said the genie, twisting his beard.
"It is when we see where we wish to go here and now that we see the portal to it. And by making up a logic for that thing we pull ourselves there as our mind relates the there-logic to the here-logic. Indeed, the logic is our path."

"Of course!" exclaimed Peter.
"The logic is our path.
"I need not know how. I need not do the maths.
"I need only think of something-anything-and my mind will start to make sense of it, at the same time taking me to where I wish to go!"

And in a satisfied puff of smoke, the genie disappeared.

Peter was soon to follow.
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These past few posts are wonderful Chaol. Thank you. This last one is so touching! hf

The main stumbling block I"m having is seeing myself as the satisfied puff of smoke who can experience and juggle perspective.

I was a little surprised when we talked about the supernatural that you didn't say it is perspective from a special geometry of relationships. But other than this and maybe a couple of other things, I can see I am the author of reality.

I am wondering if you have models in your world for: health, dying, procreation, education, careers, space travel, psychic powers and mental health? (I know these may not be the terms used, but I think you get the idea.)

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I just wanted to share the one thing I remember from my dream that I had this morning.

The only thing I remember is asking one of my brothers something along the lines of "Do you want to watch the dreamworld?"

I feel as if I was referring to it as some sort of video game or TV show or something.

And then I woke up! Maybe we decided to interact with the "dreamworld" and it immediately brought me to my waking reality?

First time I can recall ever referring to something called the "dreamworld" in my dreams. Interesting nonetheless! ;)
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And here we are thinking that we are awake :)

If we know and understand 0.000000000000000000001% while 'awake' and 0.0000000000023 while 'dreaming', which one is the dream world!
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Indeed! It had me thinking that at the same time I was <going to the dreamworld> "over there" I was <waking up> here. Same thing?

This reality really is an other one's dreamworld ;)
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Yes, quite. And in each we think it is Reality.

They're both equally valid and equally real because (as I've mentioned before) they're different interpretations of the same thing.

As the two worlds merge more of us will have the "This is a dream, isn't it?" feeling. And more of us in the dream world will have the same sense, as you may have experienced.

As I stated a while ago, 2012 is the time when the actors will begin to be exposed. We're experiencing this literally and figuratively. The point is to understand that the stage is much, much bigger than you imagine.
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Now the second part of my story - Just last night, my brother (same one from the dream) came over to my house to play some video games. We get into a deep conversation on life, perspective, how we understand that we used to perceive things in the "past" a certain way and how our present is made up of our perceptions "now". Then he says to me, "It's like, now it feels like 'this' is more of a video game, like a dream. It doesn't even seem real, just like when you're playing a game, YOU still know it's a game."

That instantly triggered for me to go grab my ecsys notebook (because that's where I wrote down what I could remember when I woke up that morning) and show him what I wrote down, and how I used it in reference to video games and why I thought it was relevant to our conversation, especially because he was the one in the dream.

When I went to show him the notebook, it triggered a massive Deja Vu shock for me, and I actualy had flashbacks of the dream. As it turns out, the "flashbacks" were of THAT moment of me showing him what I wrote down in the notebook! I had dreamed about sharing this information with my brother, and the next night, it actually played out right in front of me.

Chaol, is there an easy way to explain this? It happens a lot, actually. It used to amaze me, but the more it happens the less shocked I am. Now I just laught when it does :)
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Just found an interesting thing that you said Chaol:

"Incidentally, I have a device which can not only detect these nexus points but also change their values."

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) (Page 42)

I'll keep reading to see if you talk about this device later in the thread but I'd like to hear more about it.

And how does this device work with what you said here regarding my question in how you determine nexus points?

"My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics."

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49)

Thanks
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The response is just a few posts down from it.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The "device" is comprised entirely of neuronicons.
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Just found an interesting thing that you said Chaol:

"Incidentally, I have a device which can not only detect these nexus points but also change their values."

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) (Page 42)

I'll keep reading to see if you talk about this device later in the thread but I'd like to hear more about it.

And how does this device work with what you said here regarding my question in how you determine nexus points?

"My brain does the calculation, you could say. It's done in a logical way with neuronics."

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49)

Thanks
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The response is just a few posts down from it.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

The "device" is comprised entirely of neuronicons.
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Is it a particular set produced by an Ec string?

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Just found this..

"The Blue Brain project began in 2005 with an agreement between the EPFL and IBM, which supplied the BlueGene/L supercomputer acquired by EPFL to build the virtual brain.

The computing power needed is considerable. Each simulated neuron requires the equivalent of a laptop computer. A model of the whole brain would have billions. Supercomputing technology is rapidly approaching a level where simulating the whole brain becomes a concrete possibility.

As a first step, the project succeeded in simulating a rat cortical column. This neuronal network, the size of a pinhead, recurs repeatedly in the cortex. A rat’s brain has about 100,000 columns of in the order of 10,000 neurons each. In humans, the numbers are dizzying—a human cortex may have as many as two million columns, each having in the order of 100,000 neurons each."

[link to bluebrain.epfl.ch]
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I'm lost as to what you're saying here. Can you please clarify the above statements and also give me some 'for instance'....?

Thanks. I want to rock a model so bad!!!! Oh just for an inkling of understanding....
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XWon, imo, you showed us a wonderful way to use a symbol. Remember when you took one to the classroom and people picked it up and talked about it? That was amazing and opened my eyes. You do have an inkling. But I'm with you as far as there is still so much to learn.

I would love to rock a model. And I'm thinking I need to do one for a "soft landing."

Chaol, would you check this one for me? It's for a soft landing as things change and I'd like it to rock too. (I'm having difficulty with the desire part but I think the rest might be ok.)

Desire: Laughter during May, 2013
Symbol: Paperclip with orange mark and carpet fuzz taped to it.
Space: Bedroom window sill (or would outside the sill be better?)
Interaction: Sunlight, people coming into the room, cars driving by window, people walking by on the street.
Logic: Will open window on Wednesdays and say: "I am "boguy" and having fun." boguy=laughing in May, 2013. Cars will drive by window, sunlight comes in window, people walk by on the street talking, air will circulate around it on Wednesdays when the window is open. Will raise my eyebrows every time someone comes in the room on Wednesdays. Will mark 4. every time I laugh on Wednesdays.

Edit: Also, I have about 5 Genius plans right now. And, I make the symbols for them in the same room before I take them out. And I have 2 symbols that stay in that room most of the time, except for when they are scheduled to leave.

PLUS, remember I found the piece of furniture that I knew was my symbol? It's not in a Genius plan but it's in the same room. So, my question is, am I messing everything up by having all those symbols in the same space even though it's my space? I'm thinking I could get rid of all the Genius plans except this soft landing one or else reduce to this soft landing one and one of the others. What do you think?

Thanks
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Aren't you using that Symbol for something else?

Regardless, the idea of creating these physical Genius models is so that we can more easily learn (Karate Kid-style) how to do it mentally. The same process would be at work, so I suppose you'd have the same questions.

You could have multiple symbols in the same space though I would not recommend it. Better to use other spaces for it. (The possibilities would decrease when it's more crowded.)

There's so much space from which to choose! It would be ironic, I suppose, if you had a hard time finding space for your "possibility" element =O
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I don't know why I try to slip something by you. So far, you catch me every dang time! I was lazy and just using this symbol as an example. I was planning on changing the symbol if I use this Genius!

Actually, I'm thinking of using only this Genius because it's the only one that does not have resistance in it (to me, anyway). And I am thinking about ditching the others even though I'm about 1/2 way through with them.

Iow, they could be getting close to making something happen and that's probably important for me to see too. At the same time, I don't think it's wise for me to use so many Genius plans at one time either because I'm not even in grade school with all this yet. (Hopefully I'm at least in pre-school, heh!)

Yes, there is a lot of space to use once the symbols are outside the house. But for me, I only have one complete room to myself and the rest is shared space. The piece of furniture symbol has to stay in this one room along with the most expensive piece of artwork I have, which is another space I use for a symbol. Also, I make my symbols in this room, usually a day before I'm going to distribute them.

If I cut down on my Genius plans, heh, then I could eliminate some of the symbols. And, I'm thinking the symbol for the soft landing could be on my outside window sill instead of inside.

So the desire part is ok in this soft-landing Genius? (I had a hard time figuring that one out.)

Thanks Chaol! hf
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If you knew how many working models you have going on right now, you'd be shocked.

A shared space could make for a wonderful Possibility element.

Your desire is quite specific (for the date), but I suppose it could work. (Keep in mind your Genius all ready knows of your desire.) The more open the desire the more possibilities could flow in.
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/snippies/
Anyway, now, I'd like to ask you this. Since you don't work with the spiritual, how did you determine that Tuuuuuuur had a moon colored symbol for his Peugeot Genius? ;o)
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Because I looked at it.

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