Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

There is logic that is relative (already) allowing the dreamworld to be perceived here in the now. We talk of it like it's a "world" as if it's somewhere else. But over and over again we're reminded that it's not. It's here now in the geometry of relationships. We sense it, and have a subtle awareness of something "more" than we are currently perceiving.

I just watched that old documentary style narrative thingie from like 2004 "What the Bleep do we know?" again and I had missed (ironically, I originally dismissed them as irrelevant) quite a bit the last time I had seen it. The thing that stuck out for me (whether true or not is irrelevant) was that apparently the "natives" that saw the "Spanish" coming to what would ultimately become called the "Americas" did not originally see the boats on the horizon. They witnessed alterations like unusual waves. It was apparently the "open minded" shaman types that eventually realized what they were and upon being told what the shaman had seen, the ships were unveiled to the rest of the natives.

I've come to believe that our conscious/subconscious split is as a result of our "Ego". I see the "Ego" (now) as our (perceived) past. We just don't want to let it go. Even studying all of this, so thoroughly is as a result of my "Ego's" drive to comprehend it's place within the geometry of relationships and to find meaning in itself. Every perspective is "here", "now", but we've conditioned "ourselves" to ignore anything that doesn't satisfy our "Ego" in some way.

Our conscious mind from a "hypnotherapy" standpoint is separated by an illusory film from our subconscious that is referred to as the "Conscious Critical Faculty". This is as a result of our perceived past trying to make sense of our present and predict our future. We acquire this useful tool at an early age, about the time we pass our "self awareness" tests and separate "ourselves" from "others".

Although there are infinite "possibilities" within the geometry of relationships, we find that they are finite within perspective. We can only experience what is most relative. If we can drop our "Ego" (our attachment to our perceived past) and allow ourselves to let the subconscious work for us without interference we will receive more of what we "wish".

Chaol provides alternate tools to take place of the "critical faculty" and I am just beginning to comprehend how to integrate them (although the mere consideration of them has made them more relative and in turn caused them to integrate). He tells us the "dream world is becoming more relative" and upon reading that we automatically move one bottle closer to a perspective where we are aware of this.

Ec and the Genius are still beyond my comprehension despite all the subjective evidence I have received. It just hasn't been relative enough to my perspective to allow the transition from intellectually "being aware of" and fundamentally "knowing".

Every day, I spend hours meditating, daydreaming, working, studying and entertaining myself in ways I believe are relative to my perceived goal of achieving an "expanded awareness". But for what? The perspective I hold now is nearly irrelevant to the perspective I had at the beginning of this journey as I am now at the point I would have previously seen as an "expanded awareness". It (expanding awareness) doesn't stop, it will expand forever. As my past becomes less relative, it will fade like a dream I I just didn't care enough to write down.

Even with Choal describing how this all comes to be in great detail with the target audience of someone ignorant to any of it, I find myself still stumped. His word's resonate with me and I see that he is right, yet I do not put forth the necessary effort to pursue his techniques to mastery. I find myself stifled by "cognitive dissonance". I am somehow wearing "ego" based "blinders" rendering me incapable of "noticing" the crumbs on my path.

Then again, I pick crumbs up often. I find them everywhere I look. To say that I am incapable of noticing them is a disservice to the ones that I've been provided. It's just that I am hoping to pick one up that contains some kind of fast-acting-infectious quality that will somehow change me without allowing my "Ego"(the me I perceive myself to have been) to evaluate it's worth. Just typing that last sentence had my ego buzzing with alarms, "what if it manifests as cancer, the death of your wife or family, the fall of western civilization, a brain tumor , or more likely an inability to relate to what you care about most right now.. etc?"

I want to integrate my subconscious as thoroughly as possible into my conscious mind. I see the subconscious as what Chaol refers to as the "dream world" and the conscious as what we call our relative (local) physicality. It's just that I can see (now) that this is an "Ego" based (physically oriented) "want". This is my perceived paradox. It appears that eliminating the "ego" is not an option as it seems that IS the thing that "wants". Our dream perspective (subconscious) wants for nothing, it has anything it wants in any quantity at any time in any way.

Chaol, you tell us to take advantage of this with your techniques. I have a renewed interest to do so.

"Time will tell."


Thank you.

Space travel?

One night recently my 10 year old son seemed to be in both the dreamworld and this one simultaneously. He was very scared. He was describing things to me that he could see, but I couldn't. He also said everything was speeding up. He referred to things in the room that I could see and carried on a proper conversation with me and was obviously awake in this world.

I've not witnessed or experienced anything like that before. And it is because of this thread that I choose to make sense of it like this. That, alone, is fascinating. A few years ago I would have perceived this differently and probably made it irrelevent.

Exciting stuff!

Everyone on this thread may have similar experiences.

This is 2013, after all.

Where was he at the time?

Yep, me too - I had a similar experience, in that I spent a lot of time in an acute ward in hospital with one of my children over xmas / new year.

All is well and all is well and all manner of things are well or something like that ;)

Is that all you wanted for Christmas?

Not-Chaol's Theory of Relativity

No thing (symbol) has any inherent value (absolute value) of it's own, but is assigned it's value(s) through it's relationships with all other symbols.

Control is irrelevant.

You are your subconscious.

But what you call your subconscious interacts more, so has more of an idea of 'the big picture' (and, thus, knows where you're headed)

Chaol,

These chemtrails are killing me, never mind the older generations.

Is there an alternative to breathing?

The obvious altenative is not breathing.

Subconscious interacts more...how very interesting. You've told us many times how important interaction is.

Would you say that those who know how the Genius and Ec works, are more aware of their subconscious then?

And I have a ques. in this thread that goes along with these thoughts, if you have time. Thanks.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 49)

Chaol,

These chemtrails are killing me, never mind the older generations.

Is there an alternative to breathing?

I was hoping to avoid suffocation.

Can I Genius my way out of respiration?

Just posting for posterity :-)

I made some new Genius Models to complement the one I put in effect the other day:

1. Desired Perception: Entering the unit to my new job.

Symbol: 3 inch piece of dow rod with a rock/quartz glued to one end and the back of a watch glued to the other with a length of connecting wire spiraled around the shaft and half of a "Merry Christmas" decoration attached to the end of the wire.

Possibility: (I'm still having trouble with this element...identifying it, that is) The symbol is enveloped into a material section of an umbrella I tore apart and the whole thing was thrown onto the ground in front of the main drive to a similar workplace that I would desire to have the new job. (So is the possibility the ground, the drive/entry, or the umbrella section??

Interaction: The environment, workers leaving/entering the gate.

Logic: Every time I pass by this area I will flash my lights and give a (non offensive) hand gesture out the window towards the symbol. Also, every time I enter/leave my own driveway, I will think of this symbol and envision driving into my new job.

2. Desired Perception: Reviewing Technical Schematics at my new job.

Symbol: A large posterboard adorned with various representations/symbols of my colleges (e.g. transcripts, class projects/papers) and also my calendar workout schedule and a spreadsheet of organizations I want to work for and that I've applied to so far.

Possibility: The posterboard is placed on an unused decorative easle in my library/gym of my house. (Again, is the possibility the easle, or is it the posterboard, or is it the room??)

Interaction: It is faced in a way that it is exposed to the open room and main foyer and anyone who walks in or out of the house will see it...but mainly me and my brother on a daily basis as we read or workout.

Logic: Every day I add some thing new to the poster in term s of job-related-thing. Every day I log a new workout onto the calendar with a special little symbol for that day. Everyday I stand in front of the poster before my workout and spin around 3 times then do a little dance (with jigs reserved for interview call backs).

I'll log the other Genius Model later.

Happy perceiving, all!

You could, but then you'd probably call it "dreaming".

I would say they're more aware that there is no actual subconscious. Sometimes the illusion of a divided self is not needed.

By "interaction" I should note that I don't mean exclusively interaction with your body. It could easily be your thoughts, for example.

It would be much easier to simply move where there are not so many.

The most heavily-laden places are in the USA.

Your body has a tremendous capacity to adjust, however. (Though it does not mean that all are well from it.)

Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious?

Are some of us at the point where interaction with our thoughts is feasible?

Isn't moving from something undesirable considered resistance?

I suppose you could.

And aren't you interacting with your thoughts now? (I would say that there is no difference between you and your thoughts. You don't "think". But that's an other chapter of these discussions.)

Okay, I'm going to see if I can come up with a Genius for that.

Yes, I'm interacting with my thoughts now. You had told us previously not to use mental symbols yet. Have we crossed that threshold or am I misunderstanding something?

I suppose you could.

And aren't you interacting with your thoughts now? (I would say that there is no difference between you and your thoughts. You don't "think". But that's an other chapter of these discussions.)

I mean to imply living someplace where there aren't many, rather than moving away from it.

Moving to escape such chemicals would be a kind of resistance.

However, moving to an other place that is also relatively free of them is not really resisting, but being attracted to an other place more.

However, most of us that know about all of these things (whether considered conspiracies or not) do not mind enough to do something about it.

I would even propose that such experiences are desired by the subconscious by those who continue to participate in them.

We often pretend that we doth protest when actually a great lot of us find it exciting and dramatic. A strange attraction, I suppose.