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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Okaaaaay. I was hoping you wouldn't notice that part, heh!

Thanks.
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I'll pretend I don't see the next one ;)
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Oh, cool. Okay, I'll do some more with it. And would I say or sing the song while doing the dishes (or whatever goes with the word)? Thanks.

Once I get this word down, I've got some more words to play with. But I learned with the Genius that it's better if I take one new thing, learn it pretty good and then move on with multiples of it. ;o)
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If singing the word while doing the dishes is your thing, then by all means. Just work it into your normal experience.
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Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious?
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I suppose you could.
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Awareness that there is no actual subconscious is what I'm making a new Genius for. But, I can't think of how to word it. I know it's better for it to be something related to it.

Does this work as the desired perspective:

Taking a breath and realizing my body is healthy?
 Quoting: Unit3


Yes, or seeing the health of your body.

There is health and sickness in any body, even the most healthy of us.

But some of us make "health" more a part of our experience, and so focus on it. While others focus on other things.

But perhaps sickness has a value for you that you're not aware of yet.

Once you become aware of what value or benefit it has perhaps your perspective changes.
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Hi Chaol,

I'm wondering about something. When I started my Genius maps, I planned them so I only work with them once per week.

If I re-write the logic so I am interacting with them twice (or even more times) per week, would it speed up manifestation?

I'm curious how all this works and I'm getting a little bored waiting for something to happen.

Thanks
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Starting out, it could be once a week. But as you get used to it you could interact more.

Keep in mind that your reality is filled with these and you are constantly interacting with them. It's the nature of perspective.

There are other factors* to consider but generally speaking interaction does speed up manifestation (i.e., increase the relevance). However, it may manifest in ways you're not aware.

*Meaning, the thing you want may be completely manifested in your reality but not in the way that you wanted (because the kind of manifestation it did take was more relevant to your reality than the kind you wanted). But to your genius it is the same thing because it is the same geometry of relationships. Interpreted differently by your conscious mind, of course.
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Hi Chaol,

I'm wondering about something. When I started my Genius maps, I planned them so I only work with them once per week.

If I re-write the logic so I am interacting with them twice (or even more times) per week, would it speed up manifestation?

I'm curious how all this works and I'm getting a little bored waiting for something to happen.

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


In my opinion Unit, it works a lot faster when you interact more with your models. Like everyday as opposed to once a week. This way it becomes much more integrated in your reality that you probably wouldn't even need to remember your logic for them. They would just be automatic from constant usage. I think interaction just once a week wouldn't be as effective as an everyday interaction with a model.
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I agree and thanks for your input.

When I first started out, Chaol said something about doing interaction for once per week. And then sit back and watch to see if you can catch on how it works.

I was content to do that until now. I started out wanting to see how it works, now, I'd like to go ahead and make it faster if I can.

I remember the Expanded Perspective suggestions are something about changing some of the elements might shake things up a bit. I guess I'll see if I can find that explanation again. Heh!

Also, I'm thinking maybe I can come up with a made-up word for each Genius and use each one in a song and dance.

Notes on Expanded Perspective:

"The exercise is for the practice of changing the elements of something. Meaning, to make it more flexible in your reality to pierce the veil of your perspective. This can allow you to see and understand how one thing is multiple things.

So rather than looking directly for results in the candle (and its respective elements) we are looking to results in our perspective.

It's not just redecorating or moving your candle from one place to an other because you have identified what elements comprise its existence in your perspective.

In a way you are shaking things up in your perspective. You are defining the way in which the candle interacts with your reality and consciously changing it.

Such practice will expand your perspective (for lack of better terms) because you are learning how to perceive things for more than they appear to be.

You may want to practice with a few more and see if you see any change in your perspective.

This is closely related to how the Genius works. With practice, a book on your table 'becomes' your dream house (after experiencing the logical narrative of it all) because the dream house is the book. (Or, as it may be said, the two values spring from the same perspective and are made of the same substance: perspective.)

So, when you flex your perspective muscles by changing the way your perspective is calculated (so to speak) you are learning how to perceive something for more than it appears to be."



Another note on Expanded Perspective:

"With the expanded perspective exercise (EPE), Chaol encouraged us to change the elements of your Genius. The goal isn't an element.

At first I thought he meant we had to keep any one element and experiment with changing all the other three, then do the same again and again. Then he said, we need to keep the Symbol element each time or we'd be confused subconsciously. I was inspired to do this EPE exercise because he said the results could be amazing."


A Note on Changing a Genius

"As a rule of thumb, any time your symbol is changed you should also change the other elements (in order of change-necessity): Logic, Interaction, Potential Energy

Meaning that if you change your symbol changing the Potential Energy is less important than changing the Logic.

If your intent changes then I would suggest you start over with new elements. They need not be drastically different. Perhaps a slight change is enough (provided you have not used it that much)."





With the bold statement just above, I think I'd better not change anything in my Genius maps but I am guessing it's all right to do a mental symbol and a made-up word to supplement my Genius plans.

This would get me to interacting with it more as you suggested.

Is this correct Chaol?
 Quoting: Unit3


It may be difficult to experience your desired perspective when there is a lot of shifting going on.

Stick to one and get used to the process of "manifestation".

You're not confusing your Genius of course. Only your perspective ;)
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I had rehearsed in my mind the instructions for the Expanded Perspective Exercise. Awhile later - days later - I was crocheting, using a dark green yarn. In fact, the yarn was called Forest Green. I guess I meandered off into a daydream, because I was walking down a foot path in a pleasant woodland. I was shaking myself out of the dream when I realized that the path through the woods looked just like the crochet stitches I had been making. I immediately remembered the instructions for the exercise and thought to myself, Oh! That is how it works!
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That is awesome.

Imagine being able to live for 40 years in that forest :)

The amazing thing is that the entire reality is 'created' anew, as soon as you arrive. With past/present/future values.

Same as this one. Same as every moment.
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Hmmm...
Okay. So, the refrigerator in the kitchen has a relationship with the floor, thereby making it conscious. Right? I have tried grocking my refrigerator to see what it thinks and feels. Are those thoughts and feelings that I tap into mine? Or its? Is the refrigerator thinking?
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What you're asking is quite complicated and I've never really explained it so bear with me.

It has a relationship with everything relative to it.

Relative things are all ways in "ultra-dimensional" space and time. This means that superimposed on/around the refrigerators are all things that share the same geometry of relationships.

Now imagine that this refrigerator was composed of 100 atoms. Each atom represents an other thing that it shares space with. Perhaps one of those things (that has a similar geometry to it) is a box of cards. If this value increases in the refrigerator's value-perspective then the design (for example) of the refrigerator will be(come) more box-of-card like.

A person may become crazy in a span of 2 years, to take an other example, because the "crazy" values have increased in their perspective. The person all ready had all relative psyches "inside" them but the crazy value increased (became more relative) and their

Every aspect of your perspective is a value. Every thing that you can possibly imagine is a value and, thus, consciousness. A value is the result of two or more thing being relative (to put it simply). And this value is consciousness.

Have plants? They have you too. Your world should one day be able to see the human elements of your plants and everything that is closely related to your world. These are literally undiscovered elements in science.

To get back to your question, the refrigerator is conscious because it has a relationship with something else. (In all cases, everything else.) It is aware of that which is most relative to it because it has the closest relationship to it.

(It could be more aware of something that is not physically near in space or time simply because it shares the same geometry of relationships.)

Keep in mind that when we try to see if or what something thinks and feels we are often looking for human emotions (how we would express thoughts and emotions if we had them) rather than how it expresses its consciousness. However...

Are those things you tap into yours? Yes. But so is your experience of the refrigerator. It does not exist outside of your perspective.
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The foreign values make up our perspective. Some are much more foreign than others (much less relative) but still a part of it.



What we remember is not what is happening in the dream world but our interpretation of it.

However, what we experience in our waking world is also an interpretation of something else.

There are as many interpretations as there are perspectives.



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So how do we know what IS happening in the dreamworld?

I understand that both worlds are simply interpretations of symbols and therefore as real as each other.

If I met a friend in the dreamworld and remember it in the morning, was that as real an event as if I'd met her during the day? Or was it a 'foreign' event which I have simply interpreted as a meeting with someone I know?

I've been remembering my dreams a lot LESS over the last year or so but woken up with that feeling that there's been a lot going on. That I've been busy doing stuff with people :)
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

Yes. Both events are equally real, as both are interpretations.

The reason you don't remember is that your have not yet the concepts to express them in the waking world (as you want, as "events" and things that make sense to your waking mind).
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Chaol,

Any comments on the Chani thread/project?

Thread: ME TEL U NOW PHROPHECY UNCONFIRMED 2 SUPERNOVA EXPLOSIONS JAN 9TH
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As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
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My new genius map.

Desired experience is to be recognized by humanity as a Returning God. Symbol is a coin wrapped in a used bus ticket. Space is the bus that I ride to work on. Logic is to leave the coin symbol on my seat when I get off the bus so it can interact with all others on the bus and hopefully someone picks the symbol up and interacts with it more closely.
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More Logic may be needed.
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My new genius map.

Desired experience is to be recognized by humanity as a Returning God. Symbol is a coin wrapped in a used bus ticket. Space is the bus that I ride to work on. Logic is to leave the coin symbol on my seat when I get off the bus so it can interact with all others on the bus and hopefully someone picks the symbol up and interacts with it more closely.
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But... why?
 Quoting: CatCarel


The experience. Isn't it as valid as anyone else's desired experiences that have been shared?
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As humanity does not generally recognize "returning gods" this may require an untold number of interactions (energy) to experience.

There are plenty of other worlds from which to choose where the energy required would be much less.

Unless you decide on something like the "anti-christ" of Nostradamus or something. But I suppose I shant help you then hehe
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Chaol,

Are you on track to the desired experience frame you seek "here"? Have you always aspired to be such a patient teacher (apparently loving parent) to us? Is your intended goal to use "us" as the possibility space for the complete integration of your world "here"? Is this what you mean when you note that your intentions are selfish? You've created a very fertile space here and as I look back at (y)our progress, I am thoroughly impressed. Thank you again for working with us.

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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Chaol, a question:

I understand the concept of energy conservation in the sense that we will perceive that which takes the least amount of energy, and I read you stating that something we desire to perceive might be expressed in an other way from the particular form that we 'want' to perceive [whatever thing] we intend with, say, a Genius Model--such that, for example my new job might be expressed in an entirely different way than how I would normally perceive (or intend) for that new job to be expressed and perceived in my current perspective.

This leads me to think that we are at the mercy, so to speak, of this 'Law of Energy Conservation' and that we are as likely not to get the desired perspective (thing) as we are to get it despite our best efforts via Genius Model Creation.

How can we best accomplish a desired (as we see it in our conscious mind's eye) perspective in lieu of this? Or perhaps a better way to state this is how can we position ourselves to perceive exactly what we envision?

Scenario: Say that my new job has already been delivered to my perspective (and I know that it's there/here now, but not the way I want or recognize) in the form of some other thing...am I just spinning my wheels by continuing with the current Genius Models, or do I need to keep adding new Models until I perceive that my initial, desired intent has been satisfied?

Thanks in advance for your continued help.
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Interesting.

And what is most relative to me comes about based on what I am putting more energy into? Such as a desire or resistance?
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It is very difficult for the conscious mind to figure out what it desires and what it resists.

It often ignores or skips over what it resists even before you are aware of it. You may be reading a book about a touchy subject and unwittingly skim over the next couple of pages, not realizing that your mind has just blocked something out.

It also hides desires behind other things that you somewhat desire. Your desire for fried chicken may be hidden from you and you express it by desiring rice pilaf or Pepperidge Farm, for example.

What is most relative is not what you're putting the most energy into, but what takes the least amount of energy to perceive (or least amount of energy to interact with, as has been said here).
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Yes, I've caught myself at that before. A fast slip into unconsciousness that which I don't want to see.

Thanks for reminding me once again. I guess I need a post-it note for this!!!!!!

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Chaol,

Any comments on the Chani thread/project?

Thread: ME TEL U NOW PHROPHECY UNCONFIRMED 2 SUPERNOVA EXPLOSIONS JAN 9TH
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As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
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From that post:
"but 4 now u r god in training ok"
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Chaol, sometimes at night I wake up, mostly from nightmares (which I don't experience a lot), with hairs standingup and tinglings over my skin. My wife says that could be a sign of a being/ghost/soul/energy/entity. Tonight after reading a few of those Chani posts I got them to, when walking upstairs to revive a computer with an energetic problem.

What is your opinion on spirits?
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Okaaaaay. I was hoping you wouldn't notice that part, heh!

Thanks.
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I'll pretend I don't see the next one ;)
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Awwwwwww! lmao
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Oh, cool. Okay, I'll do some more with it. And would I say or sing the song while doing the dishes (or whatever goes with the word)? Thanks.

Once I get this word down, I've got some more words to play with. But I learned with the Genius that it's better if I take one new thing, learn it pretty good and then move on with multiples of it. ;o)
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If singing the word while doing the dishes is your thing, then by all means. Just work it into your normal experience.
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I liiiiiike it. Thanks, Chaol!

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Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious?
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I suppose you could.
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Awareness that there is no actual subconscious is what I'm making a new Genius for. But, I can't think of how to word it. I know it's better for it to be something related to it.

Does this work as the desired perspective:

Taking a breath and realizing my body is healthy?
 Quoting: Unit3


Yes, or seeing the health of your body.

There is health and sickness in any body, even the most healthy of us.

But some of us make "health" more a part of our experience, and so focus on it. While others focus on other things.

But perhaps sickness has a value for you that you're not aware of yet.

Once you become aware of what value or benefit it has perhaps your perspective changes.
 Quoting: Chaol






Just to be truthful here, I feel this focus is because my identity is tied up with it.....curing medical conditions!
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Hi Chaol,

I'm wondering about something. When I started my Genius maps, I planned them so I only work with them once per week.

If I re-write the logic so I am interacting with them twice (or even more times) per week, would it speed up manifestation?

I'm curious how all this works and I'm getting a little bored waiting for something to happen.

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

Starting out, it could be once a week. But as you get used to it you could interact more.

Keep in mind that your reality is filled with these and you are constantly interacting with them. It's the nature of perspective.

There are other factors* to consider but generally speaking interaction does speed up manifestation (i.e., increase the relevance). However, it may manifest in ways you're not aware.

*Meaning, the thing you want may be completely manifested in your reality but not in the way that you wanted (because the kind of manifestation it did take was more relevant to your reality than the kind you wanted). But to your genius it is the same thing because it is the same geometry of relationships. Interpreted differently by your conscious mind, of course.
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So how would you know when your Genius map is done then?
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Hi Chaol,

I'm wondering about something. When I started my Genius maps, I planned them so I only work with them once per week.

If I re-write the logic so I am interacting with them twice (or even more times) per week, would it speed up manifestation?

I'm curious how all this works and I'm getting a little bored waiting for something to happen.

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


In my opinion Unit, it works a lot faster when you interact more with your models. Like everyday as opposed to once a week. This way it becomes much more integrated in your reality that you probably wouldn't even need to remember your logic for them. They would just be automatic from constant usage. I think interaction just once a week wouldn't be as effective as an everyday interaction with a model.
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I agree and thanks for your input.

When I first started out, Chaol said something about doing interaction for once per week. And then sit back and watch to see if you can catch on how it works.

I was content to do that until now. I started out wanting to see how it works, now, I'd like to go ahead and make it faster if I can.

I remember the Expanded Perspective suggestions are something about changing some of the elements might shake things up a bit. I guess I'll see if I can find that explanation again. Heh!

Also, I'm thinking maybe I can come up with a made-up word for each Genius and use each one in a song and dance.

Notes on Expanded Perspective:

"The exercise is for the practice of changing the elements of something. Meaning, to make it more flexible in your reality to pierce the veil of your perspective. This can allow you to see and understand how one thing is multiple things.

So rather than looking directly for results in the candle (and its respective elements) we are looking to results in our perspective.

It's not just redecorating or moving your candle from one place to an other because you have identified what elements comprise its existence in your perspective.

In a way you are shaking things up in your perspective. You are defining the way in which the candle interacts with your reality and consciously changing it.

Such practice will expand your perspective (for lack of better terms) because you are learning how to perceive things for more than they appear to be.

You may want to practice with a few more and see if you see any change in your perspective.

This is closely related to how the Genius works. With practice, a book on your table 'becomes' your dream house (after experiencing the logical narrative of it all) because the dream house is the book. (Or, as it may be said, the two values spring from the same perspective and are made of the same substance: perspective.)

So, when you flex your perspective muscles by changing the way your perspective is calculated (so to speak) you are learning how to perceive something for more than it appears to be."



Another note on Expanded Perspective:

"With the expanded perspective exercise (EPE), Chaol encouraged us to change the elements of your Genius. The goal isn't an element.

At first I thought he meant we had to keep any one element and experiment with changing all the other three, then do the same again and again. Then he said, we need to keep the Symbol element each time or we'd be confused subconsciously. I was inspired to do this EPE exercise because he said the results could be amazing."


A Note on Changing a Genius

"As a rule of thumb, any time your symbol is changed you should also change the other elements (in order of change-necessity): Logic, Interaction, Potential Energy

Meaning that if you change your symbol changing the Potential Energy is less important than changing the Logic.

If your intent changes then I would suggest you start over with new elements. They need not be drastically different. Perhaps a slight change is enough (provided you have not used it that much)."





With the bold statement just above, I think I'd better not change anything in my Genius maps but I am guessing it's all right to do a mental symbol and a made-up word to supplement my Genius plans.

This would get me to interacting with it more as you suggested.

Is this correct Chaol?
 Quoting: Unit3


It may be difficult to experience your desired perspective when there is a lot of shifting going on.

Stick to one and get used to the process of "manifestation".

You're not confusing your Genius of course. Only your perspective ;)
 Quoting: Chaol




OK, so I won't add a made-up word or a mental symbol. I'll just interact more (and possibly crazier) with those things in my perspective that are relative to the Genius maps?
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I had rehearsed in my mind the instructions for the Expanded Perspective Exercise. Awhile later - days later - I was crocheting, using a dark green yarn. In fact, the yarn was called Forest Green. I guess I meandered off into a daydream, because I was walking down a foot path in a pleasant woodland. I was shaking myself out of the dream when I realized that the path through the woods looked just like the crochet stitches I had been making. I immediately remembered the instructions for the exercise and thought to myself, Oh! That is how it works!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4356747

That is awesome.

Imagine being able to live for 40 years in that forest :)

The amazing thing is that the entire reality is 'created' anew, as soon as you arrive. With past/present/future values.

Same as this one. Same as every moment.
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It is awesome. Would you share the instructions you memorized? Thanks.
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Chaol,

Any comments on the Chani thread/project?

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 Quoting: CatCarel

As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
 Quoting: Chaol





May I ask this then? Can perspective OVER-RIDE galactic, cosmic events? Does yours?


Thanks

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My new genius map.

Desired experience is to be recognized by humanity as a Returning God. Symbol is a coin wrapped in a used bus ticket. Space is the bus that I ride to work on. Logic is to leave the coin symbol on my seat when I get off the bus so it can interact with all others on the bus and hopefully someone picks the symbol up and interacts with it more closely.
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But... why?
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Cat, I don't have to tell you every time I email you do I? LOL! I've answered! hf
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Chaol,

Any comments on the Chani thread/project?

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As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
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May I ask this then? Can perspective OVER-RIDE galactic, cosmic events?

By the way, I posted in the other thread (about a week ago) that I got the information that Africa is on a different time-line. (I got this information in a dream.) Do you have any comment about this?

Thanks
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Do the galactic cosmic events some how occur outside your perspective? This should allow you to answer your own question.
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Chaol,

Any comments on the Chani thread/project?

Thread: ME TEL U NOW PHROPHECY UNCONFIRMED 2 SUPERNOVA EXPLOSIONS JAN 9TH
 Quoting: CatCarel

As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
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May I ask this then? Can perspective OVER-RIDE galactic, cosmic events?

By the way, I posted in the other thread (about a week ago) that I got the information that Africa is on a different time-line. (I got this information in a dream.) Do you have any comment about this?

Thanks
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Do the galactic cosmic events some how occur outside your perspective? This should allow you to answer your own question.
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I think it should be this way and especially once I'm able to work with my perspective better. I am also curious to see what Chaol says because it seems at times, he makes it seem like we are subject to some things in spite of our perspective.

Thanks for your input. What about you? Do you feel you are subject to galactic cosmic events?
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Unit3, what do you mean by "subject to"?
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
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May I ask this then? Can perspective OVER-RIDE galactic, cosmic events?

By the way, I posted in the other thread (about a week ago) that I got the information that Africa is on a different time-line. (I got this information in a dream.) Do you have any comment about this?

Thanks
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Do the galactic cosmic events some how occur outside your perspective? This should allow you to answer your own question.
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I think it should be this way and especially once I'm able to work with my perspective better. I am also curious to see what Chaol says because it seems at times, he makes it seem like we are subject to some things in spite of our perspective.

Thanks for your input. What about you? Do you feel you are subject to galactic cosmic events?
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We are both the same thing or no-thing to be more exact.
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Unit3, what do you mean by "subject to"?
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I mean does s/he feel s/he is good enough with authoring his/her perspectives that s/he will not experience galactic events.

I post the same question to anyone here, including Chaol.
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May I ask this then? Can perspective OVER-RIDE galactic, cosmic events?

By the way, I posted in the other thread (about a week ago) that I got the information that Africa is on a different time-line. (I got this information in a dream.) Do you have any comment about this?

Thanks
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Do the galactic cosmic events some how occur outside your perspective? This should allow you to answer your own question.
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I think it should be this way and especially once I'm able to work with my perspective better. I am also curious to see what Chaol says because it seems at times, he makes it seem like we are subject to some things in spite of our perspective.

Thanks for your input. What about you? Do you feel you are subject to galactic cosmic events?
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We are both the same thing or no-thing to be more exact.
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Sounds to me as if you've got it. I don't feel I do. I am aware that what is "outside" myself reflects what's "inside"
but I also still feel there's more to it than this. Iow, I see the matrix moves with me (not always, but sometimes)but I don't see it as myself.

I hope this makes sense.
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