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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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OMG! LOL! Chaol, you must really get a laugh out of us. We hardly know what we're doing.

This is exciting though. Can you say more about "something going on"? And, I wonder if AC 30554055 is aware of this?

Fascinating!
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Extremely fascinating! Especially after checking out AC 30554055's thread. Wowee...
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Yep! Reminds me of Philip K. Dick books. They have the same kind of strange jumps in them as that thread has. Great stuff!
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I haven't heard of Philip K. Dick but now that you mention it, it reminds me of David Lynch's movie Mulholland Drive. That was also a chaotic movie to keep up with. Good times!
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I was specifically thinking of (what I remember of reading) 'Wait now for next year', a science fiction novel where a drug is used with which one is transported to a different timeline in the future (or past).
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I thought of something as I was reading this. How can we ignore anything within our perspective since nothing exists (or everything exists) unless it's observed (so to speak).

I guess in Chaolspeak it would be, nothing appears to exist until the relationship between symbols is authored.
 Quoting: Unit3

Nice answers for you and Jesse both.

I guess you guys will be fine without me :)
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! We won't.

However, I will do my best to get there too, heh! It would be fun to surprise you! And myself.....although for me, rather than a surprise, it might be a shock, LOL!
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LOL Unit you're so funny! I love your sense of humour! peace

Chaol why do you have to go?!! You could send automated messages once in a while just so we still have a part of you to hold on to while you're away hf
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hf
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What ever happened to SpawnX? Last I remembered he got a job he really wanted and things were going pretty good for him? I wonder how much his perspective has changed from the last time he posted. He's definitely been a great addition to this thread too! Wherever you are SpawnX, hope you're having a great time! hf
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I've wondered about him too. He posted once and said he's been banned but as soon as he can, he'll be back to tell us about his luck with using a Genius for shooting stars.

I hope these banned people are using a Genius to get unbanned. It'd be nice to hear from them.
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Hi Unit, I only now saw your pm from some time ago... And found out that as a non paying member I cannot respond. Sorry about that, and thanks! hf
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I suppose we could perceive of the nothing-in-particular more if we weren't generally uncomfortable with the idea.


What if we are not uncomfortable with the idea?
What does it mean if I perceive the nothing-in-particular as my interior self?
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Wow, just read AC 30554055's thread.

Chaol, do you look like this guy: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ?

chuckle
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Wow, just read AC 30554055's thread.

Chaol, do you look like this guy: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ?

chuckle
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Hehe maybe Gespenst! Just maybe chuckle
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Extremely fascinating! Especially after checking out AC 30554055's thread. Wowee...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16638561


Yep! Reminds me of Philip K. Dick books. They have the same kind of strange jumps in them as that thread has. Great stuff!
 Quoting: tuuuuur


I haven't heard of Philip K. Dick but now that you mention it, it reminds me of David Lynch's movie Mulholland Drive. That was also a chaotic movie to keep up with. Good times!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5475174


I was specifically thinking of (what I remember of reading) 'Wait now for next year', a science fiction novel where a drug is used with which one is transported to a different timeline in the future (or past).
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Thanks for the recommendation, I will look for it. It's nice to get involved in other drama than the ones we live on a daily basis sometimes. It seems we just love the interaction in whatever form we can get it.
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Hi Chaol,

I guess I'll study Ec while you are gone. (Since it's going to be for MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Heh!


So, do you have recommendations on the steps one might take to learn Ec? You know, besides just reading the web pages over and over?

I have the pronunciation chart on my wall and I'm trying to memorize some of it. Anything else?

Thanks.
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Hi Unit, I only now saw your pm from some time ago... And found out that as a non paying member I cannot respond. Sorry about that, and thanks! hf
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LOL! I sent it quite a long time ago.

I asked how you were doing with getting the Peugeot because it was quite a while between posts and I wondered what happened.

Glad you found it, heh!

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Why so much doubt lately Unit3?
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Why so much doubt lately Unit3?
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It shows, huh?

I dunno. I guess I feel I'm so new to all this and have so much to learn. And I feel like time is short.

And Chaol's leaving. I only got to talk with him a little longer than a couple of months before he left last time.

I'm glad you're here and everyone else too.

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Chaol,

Any comments on the Chani thread/project?

Thread: ME TEL U NOW PHROPHECY UNCONFIRMED 2 SUPERNOVA EXPLOSIONS JAN 9TH
 Quoting: CatCarel

As I mentioned a few months ago I will no longer comment on upcoming nexus points. To this, I add any extra-terrestrial related activity :)

The fun has only just begun!

But I had not heard of Chani before.
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But.. aren't those (events/activities) indicative of merging with the dream world!? What are we supposed to talk about? Making pancakes?
/snips/
 Quoting: CatCarel

Partially because of the frequency of major nexus points during ~2013 and partially because I want you to discover these things.

I will be leaving in a few days to return in a few months, and during that time you may have more practice at "figuring it out" than you'd care for. So I can now try to help with figuring out how to figure it out if you teach me how to make a delicious pancake :)
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I've found that nexus points come with a particular set of symptoms (like death), but I guess my question now is how can the energy be used in a positive way? What exactly can be done with nexus points?

Anyway, I'm finally having dream/real world overlap and it's kind of shocking at first- as in driving along a street that I dreamt of last month (word to the wise, keep eyes on the road!). Is there any rhyme or reason to the lapse between dreams and their physical manifestations?

I want to actively understand (and 'see') this bridge, but I'm not sure how that's done in an everyday general way. What is the best way to maintain an 'open mind' so that expansions in perception are made and recognized? If I were to use the Genius, how could that be more specifically phrased?

Not sure about the pancakes though. I may cross the bridge into the dream world and realize 'that' me is a terrible cook :)
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"Anyway, I'm finally having dream/real world overlap"




Just wondered if you'd share what you're doing to get this new perspective?

Btw, I'm cosmospoetry.blogspot!

Thanks

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"Anyway, I'm finally having dream/real world overlap"




Just wondered if you'd share what you're doing to get this new perspective?

Btw, I'm cosmospoetry.blogspot!

Thanks
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In my opinion, we experience anything we're open to. It's just that it's not that "simple". For me, I've noticed, it's all about doubt and resistance. An example would be that our clocks are digital (for the most part) and there are sequences of numbers that I've become sensitive to, I notice them in my periphery and glance at the clock to see what time it is, sure enough 11:11, 8:24, 10:23, 1:27 etc... family birth dates and commonly noted glp times are the ones that creep up into my awareness. This is because they're relative to my experience and I am open to noticing them without resistance. Chaol gave us "The Genius" model, this removes the resistance (naturally) but we can still add resistance to our interactions with our models and muck up our belief that we "can" perceive our desired results. If we just follow our rules, like a scientist, analyzing without doubt but with wonder, we can achieve so much more.
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Wow, just read AC 30554055's thread.

Chaol, do you look like this guy: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ?

chuckle
 Quoting: Gespenst


Ha! My version of Chaol is more like this!

[link to s3.favim.com]
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Wow, just read AC 30554055's thread.

Chaol, do you look like this guy: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ?

chuckle
 Quoting: Gespenst


Ha! My version of Chaol is more like this!

[link to s3.favim.com]
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Hah, in your dreams!!!

Oh wait...

:-) :hf:
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/snip/
quote:CatCarel

"Anyway, I'm finally having dream/real world overlap"




Just wondered if you'd share what you're doing to get this new perspective?

Btw, I'm cosmospoetry.blogspot!

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3


In my opinion, we experience anything we're open to. It's just that it's not that "simple". For me, I've noticed, it's all about doubt and resistance. An example would be that our clocks are digital (for the most part) and there are sequences of numbers that I've become sensitive to, I notice them in my periphery and glance at the clock to see what time it is, sure enough 11:11, 8:24, 10:23, 1:27 etc... family birth dates and commonly noted glp times are the ones that creep up into my awareness. This is because they're relative to my experience and I am open to noticing them without resistance. Chaol gave us "The Genius" model, this removes the resistance (naturally) but we can still add resistance to our interactions with our models and muck up our belief that we "can" perceive our desired results. If we just follow our rules, like a scientist, analyzing without doubt but with wonder, we can achieve so much more.
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I like that Jesse.

Hmmmmmm, I think it's a little more than being able to experience anything we want by being open. There is some kind of intent and interaction involved.

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Wow, just read AC 30554055's thread.

Chaol, do you look like this guy: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ?

chuckle
 Quoting: Gespenst


Ha! My version of Chaol is more like this!

[link to s3.favim.com]
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


Hah, in your dreams!!!

Oh wait...

:-) :hf:
 Quoting: tuuuuur




All 3 of you are giving me the giggles. I think Chaol said he has white in his hair. I know he seems shiny, bright like a blonde to me.

Anyway, I bet he has a bunch of these around the house.
[link to www.digitaltrends.com]
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XWon, I don't have it straight in my head the kind of work you do, but when I read this blog, I sure thought of you. (also you Tuuuuuuur)

[link to deurrutia.blogspot.com]

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Chaol,

Thanks for your insights on my previous question. A few more if I may.

- I am becoming aware of the Genius model/map and how it is in operation everywhere and at all times, even if we are not aware of the process. What is the definition of the Genius itself as compared to the Genius model....are they one and the same?

Is the Genius the process of the the Genius model being carried out? By your definition, the Genius is always within my perspective so I would guess that this means it is the actual processing of the various interacting genius models going on around me.

- What happens to things/symbols/representations when they are not currently relative to my current perspective? So, if I have a person walk past me on the street and then out of sight. Where has this person gone, if they are now out of my realm of senses. You say that nothing exists outside my current perspective and yet that all exists in my current perspective.

Has this person then transformed into another form that I can still perceive...ie another object/symbol in front of me? I liked your earlier explanation of the the bug in the corner of the room representing a future trip to South America. This implies that all symbols in my perspective are constantly transforming into other symbols as perspective changes. Does this mean there are a finite number of symbols in my perspective, since symbols cannot be created out of nothing/no energy....energy cannot be created or destroyed.

Thanks in advance :)
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Okay, for those of you more experienced and knowledgable concerning these teachings, where do I start if I wish to attempt to practice this stuff? Unfortunately I don't have time to read +200 pages of information on this right now. What is step one? And why is it that time is so short as all of you keep saying?
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XWon, I don't have it straight in my head the kind of work you do, but when I read this blog, I sure thought of you. (also you Tuuuuuuur)

[link to deurrutia.blogspot.com]

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Unit3, that is an extraordinary building. When I went to the site, I got a very strong feeling akin to deja-vu (although not anything like deja-vu)...it feels like having the answer to a nagging question on the tip of the tongue but not being able to spit it out.

This is somehow related to my Genius Map???....although I'm not in architecture or construction.

Interesting. Thanks.

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Chaol

The trick is to see the next step when it is cast before you.

How do you see the next step without making inferences on what your subconscious is trying to send your way. What is the trick to see that next step?
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Okay, for those of you more experienced and knowledgable concerning these teachings, where do I start if I wish to attempt to practice this stuff? Unfortunately I don't have time to read +200 pages of information on this right now. What is step one? And why is it that time is so short as all of you keep saying?
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I would start with Chaol's website:
[link to ecsys.org]
It has all the necessary information to get you started.

And I don't agree that time is short. We have all the time in the world to learn this stuff. So what's the hurry? Enjoy the ride cool2
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Chaol

The trick is to see the next step when it is cast before you.

How do you see the next step without making inferences on what your subconscious is trying to send your way. What is the trick to see that next step?
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My question exactly.
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To me Chaol is look like a version of Darryl Anka as Bashar, if you listen Bashar teaching/channeling it sound like him such reasoning and logic. Please listen to his introduction as Fundamentals.


[link to bashar.org]
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To me Chaol is look like a version of Darryl Anka as Bashar, if you listen Bashar teaching/channeling it sound like him such reasoning and logic. Please listen to his introduction as Fundamentals.


[link to bashar.org]
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Listen to these at 4:00 mins on the video [link to www.youtube.com]
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To me Chaol is look like a version of Darryl Anka as Bashar, if you listen Bashar teaching/channeling it sound like him such reasoning and logic. Please listen to his introduction as Fundamentals.


[link to bashar.org]
 Quoting: SandDollar


Listen to these at 4:00 mins on the video [link to www.youtube.com]
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Okay, for those of you more experienced and knowledgable concerning these teachings, where do I start if I wish to attempt to practice this stuff? Unfortunately I don't have time to read +200 pages of information on this right now. What is step one? And why is it that time is so short as all of you keep saying?
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Hi,

I'm one of the newer people here but I'll tell you what I did. I read the first posts in all his threads. There are 5 of them, btw, so +200 pages is just the start.

I also studied his website (I noticed someone gave you a link)for a while. Then, I came to the back of the threads and followed the conversation for a while.

I finally started posting.

Time is short because Chaol is leaving in a few days and will be gone for several months. I also feel it's short because there are nexus points that allow us to accomplish our goals. Chaol says when the current nexus point closes, it will be 15-20 years before the next one.

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