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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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XWon, I don't have it straight in my head the kind of work you do, but when I read this blog, I sure thought of you. (also you Tuuuuuuur)

[link to deurrutia.blogspot.com]

Sustainable Architecture
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Unit3, that is an extraordinary building. When I went to the site, I got a very strong feeling akin to deja-vu (although not anything like deja-vu)...it feels like having the answer to a nagging question on the tip of the tongue but not being able to spit it out.

This is somehow related to my Genius Map???....although I'm not in architecture or construction.

Interesting. Thanks.

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Yes, it is extraordinary. Aren't you in mechanical engineering or something like that?
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Yes, it is extraordinary. Aren't you in mechanical engineering or something like that?
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Yes...processes and mechanical. I feel that what you posted is related to my Genius Map (maybe it has to do with water technologies??), but I can't intuit the relation. Like the question Dodec posted, inferring the relations and progressions from one [Genius perspective] to the next is difficult.
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Yes, it is extraordinary. Aren't you in mechanical engineering or something like that?
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Yes...processes and mechanical. I feel that what you posted is related to my Genius Map (maybe it has to do with water technologies??), but I can't intuit the relation. Like the question Dodec posted, inferring the relations and progressions from one [Genius perspective] to the next is difficult.
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Yes the image has to do with water technologies. Isn't your Genius for a new job?

I'm no expert but in a recent discussion with Chaol, we talked about what to do when you start noticing your Genius desire in your perspective. My understanding is that you can adjust your Genius at that time to help bring the desire on in. Or, interact with your Genius more.

Is this what you're talking about?

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Chaol....where are you?
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Okay, for those of you more experienced and knowledgable concerning these teachings, where do I start if I wish to attempt to practice this stuff? Unfortunately I don't have time to read +200 pages of information on this right now. What is step one? And why is it that time is so short as all of you keep saying?
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Hi,

I'm one of the newer people here but I'll tell you what I did. I read the first posts in all his threads. There are 5 of them, btw, so +200 pages is just the start.

I also studied his website (I noticed someone gave you a link)for a while. Then, I came to the back of the threads and followed the conversation for a while.

I finally started posting.

Time is short because Chaol is leaving in a few days and will be gone for several months. I also feel it's short because there are nexus points that allow us to accomplish our goals. Chaol says when the current nexus point closes, it will be 15-20 years before the next one.
 Quoting: Unit3


Chaol is here offering us a bridge. It is an opportunity. He says that the bridge will not always be there and that once it is gone, there is no more opportunity for the next 15 - 20 years.

Go to the thread for meeting in the dream reality to find out more about the bridge.
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(That is to say, the new model you create is influenced by the result of the old model... thus illustrating the path.)

I would recommend making as many sequential models as you can for a particular desired perspective until it becomes second nature. Until it becomes a mental process.

But one model per desired perspective until you see the desired perspective symbolized in your current perspective. So it's like turning the map around to get your bearings as you continue a long the path.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, thank you for your answers. I want to further explore the use of the Genius keeping the above in mind. Right now I've got 2 incomplete Genius models that I'd like your input on before I fully implement them, if you'd be so kind :)

#1
Desired Experience: Undecided (Interim: My New Car)
Symbol: Organic piece of paper crumpled up and placed "inside" of a folded up note card. Melted candle wax (from a birthday candle) was dripped all over it. The un melted portion of the candle was also placed inside the note card, and everything was secured with 2 zip ties.
Possibility: Table in the garage (Shared space with 2 other tenants)
Interaction: My current car, other tenants, their cars, tools, bikes and other storage items, etc
Logic: Undecided

- For the Desired Experience, Would it be better to say <My New Car> because it is the least specific thing I can think of, or would something along the lines of <Pulling my new car into my garage> tie up all of the elements together better? Or does it matter?

- At the time I was constructing this symbol, I had an idea that I could create an other symbol for the same experience, and place it somewhere (Possibility) where the car might first manifest, such as a car dealership. My thought was that maybe one symbol would tie in with the other and things might move quicker.

I was visiting 2 hours away from home and learned that a dealership nearby did have a car like the one I was interested in for this exercise. I threw a symbol together MacGyver style the night before with the intent to visit and leave it at the dealership the next day. Funny, that symbol was disassembled my someone else before I had a chance to do anything with it. Because of that, I ended up creating a new symbol with the base being a birthday candle that I swear wasn't there the night before ;) If it was I probably would have gone for it first.

#2
Desired Experience Again, <My New Car> or <Driving my New Car off the lot>?
Symbol: Birthday Candle, set inside of a pencil grip, secured with a twisty tie
Possibility: Sitting on top of a Plymouth Prowler (not the car I had in mind), which is on display inside of the dealership.
Interaction: Dealership, salesmen, porters, customers, potential buyers, other cars etc.
Logic: Undecided

- You say only one model per desired perspective. Would my second model be considered a sequential model? Or will it not work that way since my initial thought was to have 2 models represent the same thing, just at different locations.

- If I have the first one being <Pulling my new car into my garage> and the 2nd <Driving my new car off the lot>, instead of having both represent <my new car>, could it be said they are 2 different models for 2 different experiences?

I hope this reaches you before you go. Your answers are all ways appreciated!
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Okay, for those of you more experienced and knowledgable concerning these teachings, where do I start if I wish to attempt to practice this stuff? Unfortunately I don't have time to read +200 pages of information on this right now. What is step one? And why is it that time is so short as all of you keep saying?
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Hi,

I'm one of the newer people here but I'll tell you what I did. I read the first posts in all his threads. There are 5 of them, btw, so +200 pages is just the start.

I also studied his website (I noticed someone gave you a link)for a while. Then, I came to the back of the threads and followed the conversation for a while.

I finally started posting.

Time is short because Chaol is leaving in a few days and will be gone for several months. I also feel it's short because there are nexus points that allow us to accomplish our goals. Chaol says when the current nexus point closes, it will be 15-20 years before the next one.
 Quoting: Unit3


Chaol is here offering us a bridge. It is an opportunity. He says that the bridge will not always be there and that once it is gone, there is no more opportunity for the next 15 - 20 years.

Go to the thread for meeting in the dream reality to find out more about the bridge.
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We're saying the same thing. I didn't use the word bridge. I used the word nexus because it takes the nexus point to cross the bridge.
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To me Chaol is look like a version of Darryl Anka as Bashar, if you listen Bashar teaching/channeling it sound like him such reasoning and logic. Please listen to his introduction as Fundamentals.


[link to bashar.org]
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Hi,

Yes, you've left bashar's links in Chaol's threads before. Here's a quote of his that sounds like Chaol,

"Everything already always exists. The change you experience is simply an illusion of continuity. You do not change one earth into another. You shift your consciousness focus from one earth to another that already exists... you only shift to a parallel reality where that reality already represents the shift in your own vibration. Nothing changes in that context. The change happens within your consciousness."

I'd say the only difference is that Chaol doesn't speak of vibration. It's not a matter of raising our vibrations, it's a matter of changing our perception. I would think this is a big difference in their approach.


Also, Chaol personally helps us and I have found him impeccable.

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Unit3, what do you mean by "subject to"?
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I mean does s/he feel s/he is good enough with authoring his/her perspectives that s/he will not experience galactic events.

I post the same question to anyone here, including Chaol.
 Quoting: Unit3

Those are a part of you, you know.

Becoming more relative by the hour. And away from relativity again.
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I'm not sure what you're saying here, Chaol.

Does it mean part of my perspective comes and goes? So my perspective actually includes the drama of something "might" happen rather than it happening?
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Thanks. Can I work this into a Genius..awareness that there is no actual subconscious?
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I suppose you could.
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Awareness that there is no actual subconscious is what I'm making a new Genius for. But, I can't think of how to word it. I know it's better for it to be something related to it.

Does this work as the desired perspective:

Taking a breath and realizing my body is healthy?
 Quoting: Unit3


Yes, or seeing the health of your body.

There is health and sickness in any body, even the most healthy of us.

But some of us make "health" more a part of our experience, and so focus on it. While others focus on other things.

But perhaps sickness has a value for you that you're not aware of yet.

Once you become aware of what value or benefit it has perhaps your perspective changes.
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In regards to the value of sickness, there is the drama factor plus rewards in healing them.

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Okay, for those of you more experienced and knowledgable concerning these teachings, where do I start if I wish to attempt to practice this stuff? Unfortunately I don't have time to read +200 pages of information on this right now. What is step one? And why is it that time is so short as all of you keep saying?
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Hi,

I'm one of the newer people here but I'll tell you what I did. I read the first posts in all his threads. There are 5 of them, btw, so +200 pages is just the start.

I also studied his website (I noticed someone gave you a link)for a while. Then, I came to the back of the threads and followed the conversation for a while.

I finally started posting.

Time is short because Chaol is leaving in a few days and will be gone for several months. I also feel it's short because there are nexus points that allow us to accomplish our goals. Chaol says when the current nexus point closes, it will be 15-20 years before the next one.
 Quoting: Unit3


Chaol is here offering us a bridge. It is an opportunity. He says that the bridge will not always be there and that once it is gone, there is no more opportunity for the next 15 - 20 years.

Go to the thread for meeting in the dream reality to find out more about the bridge.
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We're saying the same thing. I didn't use the word bridge. I used the word nexus because it takes the nexus point to cross the bridge.
 Quoting: Unit3


Nope.
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Hi,

I'm one of the newer people here but I'll tell you what I did. I read the first posts in all his threads. There are 5 of them, btw, so +200 pages is just the start.

I also studied his website (I noticed someone gave you a link)for a while. Then, I came to the back of the threads and followed the conversation for a while.

I finally started posting.

Time is short because Chaol is leaving in a few days and will be gone for several months. I also feel it's short because there are nexus points that allow us to accomplish our goals. Chaol says when the current nexus point closes, it will be 15-20 years before the next one.
 Quoting: Unit3


Chaol is here offering us a bridge. It is an opportunity. He says that the bridge will not always be there and that once it is gone, there is no more opportunity for the next 15 - 20 years.

Go to the thread for meeting in the dream reality to find out more about the bridge.
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We're saying the same thing. I didn't use the word bridge. I used the word nexus because it takes the nexus point to cross the bridge.
 Quoting: Unit3


Nope.
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Feel free to enlighten me then.
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I have not left yet :) still here, observing. I will try to respond to as many posts as I can before I leave.
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Chaol, sometimes at night I wake up, mostly from nightmares (which I don't experience a lot), with hairs standingup and tinglings over my skin. My wife says that could be a sign of a being/ghost/soul/energy/entity. Tonight after reading a few of those Chani posts I got them to, when walking upstairs to revive a computer with an energetic problem.

What is your opinion on spirits?
 Quoting: tuuuuur

I think you've answered your own question.

If you watch a scary movie, for example, you could experience more of these sensations. It's not that you're sensing something that is there but the sense of fear kicks in and these sensations are focused upon.

Sometimes houses (particularly the older ones) have metal fixtures and furnishings (especially iron) that humans sense and may interpret as ghosts and such but are actually just sensations that they're not familiar with and so think of the quickest thing that comes to mind. (And sometimes it could be the soil or other geographic features.)
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Thanks! We had a house like that.
I feel like the AC you answered before, like I have trouble to start or finish things. The car is the only conscious genius use I did.
But I feel more like I use the Genius sub- (or un-?) consciously, because some of my wishes I never thought to happen anymore suddenly did last year (and another one happened just today, in that my original band is getting together again, playing my songs!).

Again thanks Chaol. This is the main thread I check on GLP, though I don't post much I am always curious after your messages.
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You and all is very welcome :)
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Oh geez, one month was bad enough....now a few months? ohno

I thought we had you for a another year (until the Nov 17th nexus)! Sigh!
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The November 17th date was last year.

There are so many this year I don't mention them anymore.
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Chaol, can you elaborate on why you might be different when you return?

And, btw, does Metris still visit here? Maybe he'd like to hang out in this forum?

Thanks.
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We will see.

Unfortunately, Metis is not available at this time.
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It's because WE will be different!

Whoo.
Hoo!
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You could say that.

But some things are more gradual than others.
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LOL Unit you're so funny! I love your sense of humour! peace

Chaol why do you have to go?!! You could send automated messages once in a while just so we still have a part of you to hold on to while you're away hf
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I live a double life lo

The automated messages would probably get lost. It would be like trying to throw a ball in a swerving truck. (As well, because of the nature of the current time, a proxy could be unpredictable. I have no idea what it would say or do.)
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Hi Chaol, please come visit me in the dream world! Pretty please! hf
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When you're wearing pigtails then I visit :)
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Well, now that I've sort of adjusted to the idea you're leaving, Chaol, I'll have to ask some questions, heh! (What's new, eh?)

Okay, we have established the need for drama. My question is this. In your opinion, can we enact drama in our lives; such as being very expressive, and would this satisfy the need so Earth Changes and Super Galactic, Apocalyptic events won't be quite as attractive?
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Are you intending, by being "very expressive", to fool your subconscious into having those needs satisfied in a way that your waking mind would prefer?
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I suppose we could perceive of the nothing-in-particular more if we weren't generally uncomfortable with the idea.
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What if we are not uncomfortable with the idea?
What does it mean if I perceive the nothing-in-particular as my interior self?

How could you not be uncomfortable with it?

By "you" I mean the core of you, not the you that formulated the question with words.

You cannot perceive nothing-in-particular. That's the idea.
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Wow, just read AC 30554055's thread.

Chaol, do you look like this guy: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] ?

chuckle
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Sure, why not! =D
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Hi Chaol,

I guess I'll study Ec while you are gone. (Since it's going to be for MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Heh!


So, do you have recommendations on the steps one might take to learn Ec? You know, besides just reading the web pages over and over?

I have the pronunciation chart on my wall and I'm trying to memorize some of it. Anything else?

Thanks.
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Yes. I would suggest starting with the Genius. And then when you've got it moving to Ec. (You would then approach Ec differently and have a new kind of language all ready in its infancy to your waking mind.)
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Well, now that I've sort of adjusted to the idea you're leaving, Chaol, I'll have to ask some questions, heh! (What's new, eh?)

Okay, we have established the need for drama. My question is this. In your opinion, can we enact drama in our lives; such as being very expressive, and would this satisfy the need so Earth Changes and Super Galactic, Apocalyptic events won't be quite as attractive?
 Quoting: Unit3

Are you intending, by being "very expressive", to fool your subconscious into having those needs satisfied in a way that your waking mind would prefer?
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Yes! At the same time, I am using a Genius to become aware that there is no subconscious.
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I've found that nexus points come with a particular set of symptoms (like death), but I guess my question now is how can the energy be used in a positive way? What exactly can be done with nexus points?
 Quoting: CatCarel

Hi.

Imagine them as collections of "Possibility". You can do with it what you will.

There's nothing negative or positive about them.

Anyway, I'm finally having dream/real world overlap and it's kind of shocking at first- as in driving along a street that I dreamt of last month (word to the wise, keep eyes on the road!). Is there any rhyme or reason to the lapse between dreams and their physical manifestations?
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There's less interaction in the waking world, so the lag time appears to be longer. So you use the space that you're all ready in differently. (As you're in the dream world all ready. But of course we don't call it that. It's just reality.)

That's about it.

I want to actively understand (and 'see') this bridge, but I'm not sure how that's done in an everyday general way. What is the best way to maintain an 'open mind' so that expansions in perception are made and recognized? If I were to use the Genius, how could that be more specifically phrased?

Not sure about the pancakes though. I may cross the bridge into the dream world and realize 'that' me is a terrible cook :)
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heh. I would suggest that when you see something, see it anew rather than what you think it to be.

In each perception is your entire perspective. But if you look at something and thing, "I've seen that before" then you are in a way implying that you know of its total reality all ready (when actually it is not known).

Look into the things that you think you know all ready and see what you've been missing.

I hope the above bit of advice of somehow useful for you.
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Hi Chaol,

I guess I'll study Ec while you are gone. (Since it's going to be for MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Heh!


So, do you have recommendations on the steps one might take to learn Ec? You know, besides just reading the web pages over and over?

I have the pronunciation chart on my wall and I'm trying to memorize some of it. Anything else?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. I would suggest starting with the Genius. And then when you've got it moving to Ec. (You would then approach Ec differently and have a new kind of language all ready in its infancy to your waking mind.)
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Ah! OK, thanks.


Also, you had posted a few days ago that you would be providing narrative. I didn't find the post yet, but I assumed at that time, it meant you would be here on GLP.

Now that I know you will be leaving, when you posted about providing narrative, what was your meaning?

(I volunteer to be in the Dream World as a contact to bring messages back here for you, heh!)
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Chaol

I am having trouble understanding the term difference of the square of possibility and possibility in X prime. Can you provide an example to illustrate the term?

Thanks
Nichols
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The bleed through today was unmistakable.

Noch
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Oh geez, one month was bad enough....now a few months? ohno

I thought we had you for a another year (until the Nov 17th nexus)! Sigh!
 Quoting: Unit3

The November 17th date was last year.

There are so many this year I don't mention them anymore.
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Ohhhh, ok. Thanks.
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The bleed through today was unmistakable.

Noch
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