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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Chaol, how about you help me set up a research center before you leave? Heh! tounge

My genius has been working on it....and you just might be a silent partner! rockon
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Silent because you can do all the talking for me? hehe

This material is meant to be destroyed, not preserved, unfortunately.

The only copies should exist in yer brain.

All others will eventually be obliterated.
 Quoting: Chaol

lol No, silent because you'll be gone, heh!

I'm thinking of a place where we can interact and learn it off the forum.
 Quoting: Unit3

It's here on the internet because that's a good way to interact more directly with your mind.

With more physical stuff the physical stuff usually gets in the way.

But a research center is an interesting idea. As long as you realize it will be "re-created" shortly after you cut the ribbon :)
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Veryyyyyyy interesting. No wonder I notice kids that are raised on computers seem to have amazing minds. Hmmmmmmmm!


Makes sense about the physical stuff.

Yes, it will be re-created by the minute, same as here. Esp. as everyone gets better at it, heh!

I can see it now....one day, 30 people all working together in a nice building. The next day, a space ship sitting in the yard and only 15 people on staff and loading stuff into the ship.
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According to her, it's a "gamechanger." And, it makes sense to me to a point! But, it doesn't seem as clear as what you teach. That's why I asked if we are to combine the two.
 Quoting: Unit3

Clear?

OMG.. then I've been doing it wrong!

That's the last thing I want to do.

Somewhere in the middle is just right, like Goldilocks.

Some things we have to work for =)
 Quoting: Chaol


LOL...I mean clear in how it FEELS!

You do make us work for it...believe me. That's one reason some posters gripe when they post, hehe!
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If it were completely free it would have no value.
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According to her, it's a "gamechanger." And, it makes sense to me to a point! But, it doesn't seem as clear as what you teach. That's why I asked if we are to combine the two.
 Quoting: Unit3

Clear?

OMG.. then I've been doing it wrong!

That's the last thing I want to do.

Somewhere in the middle is just right, like Goldilocks.

Some things we have to work for =)
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LOL...I mean clear in how it FEELS!

You do make us work for it...believe me. That's one reason some posters gripe when they post, hehe!
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If it were completely free it would have no value.
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Oh, I thought it was for a different reason. But, this is true.
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I cut down to 2. But, if I get this one right, I'll probably cut out one of them.

No, twigs with ribbons is new, heh! But things with different colored marks is a theme.
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And what color is the ribbon?
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I cut down to 2. But, if I get this one right, I'll probably cut out one of them.

No, twigs with ribbons is new, heh! But things with different colored marks is a theme.
 Quoting: Unit3

And what color is the ribbon?
 Quoting: Chaol




Black ribbon.

And do you sneak into a grocery for your foodstuffs when they are symbols? (I like this idea, heh) And symbols are supposed to be 2 different things so how does this work?


Btw, did you ever make it to Dubai? How is it?

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Lol I'm trying to work and keep up. You guys/gals crack me up.

Chaol/Unit3, thank u. Lol.

I'm out of questions, time to practice.
Nothing is irrelevant.
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A symbol that is disassembled by someone else is still as valid as the one you had intended. It's just doing its interaction thing ;)

For your intention, try something more of a by-product of what you want rather than exactly what you want. You want to get a new steering wheel for your new car, for example.

So a steering wheel could be more relative to your current perspective than a new car. But the new steering wheel dictates than the respective car be had. So then it becomes more like, "I got your new steering wheel! It was easy because you were stitching one up last week. But unfortunately I had to get this car first because it fits in it. I hope you don't mind."
 Quoting: Chaol


That brings a question: Say I have a symbol, and it's Logic element involves me throwing it. What happens then if it is dissasembled and some parts are lost? Even though it is still interacting, I can't apply the logic anymore. I'm stuck here.

Also, Say I change "steering wheel" to "flashy rims". I want to get flashy rims for my new car. Would the possibility of a table in my garage be as effect as, let's say a display shelf in a customs shop?

(Of course, the accident could be avoided. You're just using it as a path rather than the final destination. This is what you also may miss when someone messes up your symbol.)
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Could you elaborate on this more?

As all ways, thank you.
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Hi.

There is no need to be obvious. Your elements could be anything. (Your Genius is smart enough to figure it out.) But a table in your garage could work fine. The more obvious it is the more it is all ready satisfied in your reality.

If your Logic element involves you throwing it and it then comes apart or is lost, then your Logic would still be in effect conditionally. (As in, "throw it when..") You could also change your logic.

These things are proxies for mental processes. That's why it does not matter if your model is different from your intention. It is not the physical thing or the physical actions making it work. It is your subconscious' 'response' to what you are doing.

For the last, look at each step as a stepping stone to where you want to go. You can use something as a slingshot to something else. Sometimes it's the only way to get somewhere.
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I cut down to 2. But, if I get this one right, I'll probably cut out one of them.

No, twigs with ribbons is new, heh! But things with different colored marks is a theme.
 Quoting: Unit3

And what color is the ribbon?
 Quoting: Chaol

Black ribbon.

And do you sneak into a grocery for your foodstuffs as symbols? And symbols are supposed to be 2 things so how does this work?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

No, I sneak into your reality. But I don't take food. I was being jovial.

The twig with ribbon is too much like the coin/stone with mark, I think.
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Veryyyyyyy interesting. No wonder I notice kids that are raised on computers seem to have amazing minds. Hmmmmmmmm!

Makes sense about the physical stuff.

Yes, it will be re-created by the minute, same as here. Esp. as everyone gets better at it, heh!

I can see it now....one day, 30 people all working together in a nice building. The next day, a space ship sitting in the yard and only 15 people on staff and loading stuff into the ship.
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. It is part of what you would call the spiritual world.

But that's a long story.
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Btw, did you ever make it to Dubai? How is it?

Thanks
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I've been in the mountains of Thailand for a while. I've never been to Dubai.
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I cut down to 2. But, if I get this one right, I'll probably cut out one of them.

No, twigs with ribbons is new, heh! But things with different colored marks is a theme.
 Quoting: Unit3

And what color is the ribbon?
 Quoting: Chaol

Black ribbon.

And do you sneak into a grocery for your foodstuffs as symbols? And symbols are supposed to be 2 things so how does this work?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

No, I sneak into your reality. But I don't take food. I was being jovial.

The twig with ribbon is too much like the coin/stone with mark, I think.
 Quoting: Chaol




How about a burned incense stick with some ABC gum stuck to it and rolled in the grass with 2 blueberries stuck on it, for a symbol?

I wanted something discreet they wouldn't notice in their driveway, heh! Ain't gonna work though.

What about if I change the space to the end of their fence where their white dog is? It could stay there quite a while.

The reason I'd like a symbol to stay a while in the space is because I want to interact with it whenever I walk by (almost every day) which will help integrate it into my reality)
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Veryyyyyyy interesting. No wonder I notice kids that are raised on computers seem to have amazing minds. Hmmmmmmmm!

Makes sense about the physical stuff.

Yes, it will be re-created by the minute, same as here. Esp. as everyone gets better at it, heh!

I can see it now....one day, 30 people all working together in a nice building. The next day, a space ship sitting in the yard and only 15 people on staff and loading stuff into the ship.
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. It is part of what you would call the spiritual world.

But that's a long story.
 Quoting: Chaol




Dang! Tell me something like this and then just leave! cool2

Is there any way we can talk you out of leaving? I just might create a word for it and a mental symbol. Would that at least slow you down? heh!
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Btw, did you ever make it to Dubai? How is it?

Thanks
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I've been in the mountains of Thailand for a while. I've never been to Dubai.
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Both places fascinate me. What was Thailand like?
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And what color is the ribbon?
 Quoting: Chaol

Black ribbon.

And do you sneak into a grocery for your foodstuffs as symbols? And symbols are supposed to be 2 things so how does this work?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

No, I sneak into your reality. But I don't take food. I was being jovial.

The twig with ribbon is too much like the coin/stone with mark, I think.
 Quoting: Chaol




How about a burned incense stick with some ABC gum stuck to it and rolled in the grass with 2 blueberries stuck on it, for a symbol?

I wanted something discreet they wouldn't notice in their driveway, heh! Ain't gonna work though.

What about if I change the space to the end of their fence where their white dog is? It could stay there quite a while.

The reason I'd like a symbol to stay a while in the space is because I want to interact with it whenever I walk by (almost every day) which will help integrate it into my reality)
 Quoting: Unit3

hehe.. you're all ways trying to out-smart yer Genius.

Nevermind about how long it is there. The amount of time is irrelevant. What matters is the interactions. These could be significant in what you'd call a few seconds.

A lot can happen in a few seconds.

But your model seems fine as it is. At the end of the fence is fine, too.
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Veryyyyyyy interesting. No wonder I notice kids that are raised on computers seem to have amazing minds. Hmmmmmmmm!

Makes sense about the physical stuff.

Yes, it will be re-created by the minute, same as here. Esp. as everyone gets better at it, heh!

I can see it now....one day, 30 people all working together in a nice building. The next day, a space ship sitting in the yard and only 15 people on staff and loading stuff into the ship.
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. It is part of what you would call the spiritual world.

But that's a long story.
 Quoting: Chaol


Dang! Tell me something like this and then just leave! cool2

Is there any way we can talk you out of leaving? I just might create a word for it and a mental symbol. Would that at least slow you down? heh!
 Quoting: Unit3

heh.. you have no idea :)
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Black ribbon.

And do you sneak into a grocery for your foodstuffs as symbols? And symbols are supposed to be 2 things so how does this work?

Thanks
 Quoting: Unit3

No, I sneak into your reality. But I don't take food. I was being jovial.

The twig with ribbon is too much like the coin/stone with mark, I think.
 Quoting: Chaol




How about a burned incense stick with some ABC gum stuck to it and rolled in the grass with 2 blueberries stuck on it, for a symbol?

I wanted something discreet they wouldn't notice in their driveway, heh! Ain't gonna work though.

What about if I change the space to the end of their fence where their white dog is? It could stay there quite a while.

The reason I'd like a symbol to stay a while in the space is because I want to interact with it whenever I walk by (almost every day) which will help integrate it into my reality)
 Quoting: Unit3

hehe.. you're all ways trying to out-smart yer Genius.

Nevermind about how long it is there. The amount of time is irrelevant. What matters is the interactions. These could be significant in what you'd call a few seconds.

A lot can happen in a few seconds.

But your model seems fine as it is. At the end of the fence is fine, too.
 Quoting: Chaol




You know me too well, heh! I think of it as just trying to get all I can out of it, LOL! afro

Verrrrry interesting. I can see now, that in my mind, I think it's going to take a while to see my Genius manifest results, when it can happen instantaneously.

So the best space would be where there is the most interaction, even if the symbol gets thrown out immediately?
This opens a whole new dimension for me. My future symbols may take on the appearance of grossness, LOL!

So the rest of the Genius was okay? Logic? Made-up word?

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Btw, did you ever make it to Dubai? How is it?

Thanks
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I've been in the mountains of Thailand for a while. I've never been to Dubai.
 Quoting: Chaol

Both places fascinate me. What was Thailand like?
 Quoting: Unit3

My experience in Thailand is different from what most others would experience.

I live with monks. They're not like the monks you see on television, though.

The heat is nice. But I'm sure it's hotter in Dubai, at least for a while.
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Btw, did you ever make it to Dubai? How is it?

Thanks
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I've been in the mountains of Thailand for a while. I've never been to Dubai.
 Quoting: Chaol

Both places fascinate me. What was Thailand like?
 Quoting: Unit3

My experience in Thailand is different from what most others would experience.

I live with monks. They're not like the monks you see on television, though.

The heat is nice. But I'm sure it's hotter in Dubai, at least for a while.
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What were the monks like?
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No, I sneak into your reality. But I don't take food. I was being jovial.

The twig with ribbon is too much like the coin/stone with mark, I think.
 Quoting: Chaol




How about a burned incense stick with some ABC gum stuck to it and rolled in the grass with 2 blueberries stuck on it, for a symbol?

I wanted something discreet they wouldn't notice in their driveway, heh! Ain't gonna work though.

What about if I change the space to the end of their fence where their white dog is? It could stay there quite a while.

The reason I'd like a symbol to stay a while in the space is because I want to interact with it whenever I walk by (almost every day) which will help integrate it into my reality)
 Quoting: Unit3

hehe.. you're all ways trying to out-smart yer Genius.

Nevermind about how long it is there. The amount of time is irrelevant. What matters is the interactions. These could be significant in what you'd call a few seconds.

A lot can happen in a few seconds.

But your model seems fine as it is. At the end of the fence is fine, too.
 Quoting: Chaol




You know me too well, heh! I think of it as just trying to get all I can out of it, LOL! afro

Verrrrry interesting. I can see now, that in my mind, I think it's going to take a while to see my Genius manifest results, when it can happen instantaneously.

So the best space would be where there is the most interaction, even if the symbol gets thrown out immediately?
This opens a whole new dimension for me. My future symbols may take on the appearance of grossness, LOL!

So the rest of the Genius was okay? Logic? Made-up word?
 Quoting: Unit3

You're used to things taking a while to 'manifest'.

I would even say that you want things to take a while. It's normal when that's all you know.

We even carry this over to the dream world. Things manifest in a few seconds in dream-time when they don't need to.

It's comfortable, I suppose.

Just be open to experience. Eventually you'll learn to go with the flow.
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Lol I'm trying to work and keep up. You guys/gals crack me up.

Chaol/Unit3, thank u. Lol.

I'm out of questions, time to practice.
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Glad you had fun. I know I am. I never saw the posts fly so fast, LOL!
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What were the monks like?
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Something similar to the architect in the Matrix [link to thepopulist.net]
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Veryyyyyyy interesting. No wonder I notice kids that are raised on computers seem to have amazing minds. Hmmmmmmmm!

Makes sense about the physical stuff.

Yes, it will be re-created by the minute, same as here. Esp. as everyone gets better at it, heh!

I can see it now....one day, 30 people all working together in a nice building. The next day, a space ship sitting in the yard and only 15 people on staff and loading stuff into the ship.
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes. It is part of what you would call the spiritual world.

But that's a long story.
 Quoting: Chaol


Dang! Tell me something like this and then just leave! cool2

Is there any way we can talk you out of leaving? I just might create a word for it and a mental symbol. Would that at least slow you down? heh!
 Quoting: Unit3

heh.. you have no idea :)
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No idea of what? How good my mental symbols work, heh!
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How about a burned incense stick with some ABC gum stuck to it and rolled in the grass with 2 blueberries stuck on it, for a symbol?

I wanted something discreet they wouldn't notice in their driveway, heh! Ain't gonna work though.

What about if I change the space to the end of their fence where their white dog is? It could stay there quite a while.

The reason I'd like a symbol to stay a while in the space is because I want to interact with it whenever I walk by (almost every day) which will help integrate it into my reality)
 Quoting: Unit3

hehe.. you're all ways trying to out-smart yer Genius.

Nevermind about how long it is there. The amount of time is irrelevant. What matters is the interactions. These could be significant in what you'd call a few seconds.

A lot can happen in a few seconds.

But your model seems fine as it is. At the end of the fence is fine, too.
 Quoting: Chaol




You know me too well, heh! I think of it as just trying to get all I can out of it, LOL! afro

Verrrrry interesting. I can see now, that in my mind, I think it's going to take a while to see my Genius manifest results, when it can happen instantaneously.

So the best space would be where there is the most interaction, even if the symbol gets thrown out immediately?
This opens a whole new dimension for me. My future symbols may take on the appearance of grossness, LOL!

So the rest of the Genius was okay? Logic? Made-up word?
 Quoting: Unit3

You're used to things taking a while to 'manifest'.

I would even say that you want things to take a while. It's normal when that's all you know.

We even carry this over to the dream world. Things manifest in a few seconds in dream-time when they don't need to.

It's comfortable, I suppose.

Just be open to experience. Eventually you'll learn to go with the flow.
 Quoting: Chaol




Aha! So, because of this I'm probably interfering with my Genius.

I wonder if my Genius for awareness the subconscious is not real would nudge this out of being a value in my perspective? That would be nice.
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What were the monks like?
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Something similar to the architect in the Matrix [link to thepopulist.net]
 Quoting: Chaol




Wow! What was it like to interact with them then?
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What were the monks like?
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Something similar to the architect in the Matrix [link to thepopulist.net]
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Wow! What was it like to interact with them then?
 Quoting: Unit3

No comment on that one =)
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Interaction is consciousness. Interacting with your symbol is how you bring your desire into your reality.

The reason I believe Logic is best kept simple and extrodinarily random is that it helps your genius align to the reality you are trying to create.

All assumptions about time disobey ecsys prime, which states all happens with the least amount of energy.

So my thoughts on how to have successful genius:

A. Create space, possibility, and a strong random Logic tied to some interaction based on your own actions.

B. Interact with symbol as defined by your logic and let symbol interact with other things by its mere existence (need not spend time thinking about the other interactions)

C. Because our perspective changes once we reach a new perspective, it is best to redefine your map by adjusting your symbol because it should have new value to you now.

D. "Seeing the next step when cast before you by your genius" must conform to ecsys prime, so must be what is easiest and uses the least energy. So perhaps coincidences are involved, and we need only create a map, notice a coincidence, and then create a new map once we have changed perspective by moving one step along the path.

if it is so easy why is it a "trick"?

Chaol your thoughts please.
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I have to go run errands. :o(

I've stuck it out here as long as I could today. It was great to get to interact with you, Chaol. It's amazing to me how many posts we did. I'm not sure if i was keeping up with you or vice versa, but I enjoyed it! I skipped breakfast and lunch to be here, heh It was worth it.

To say I am going to miss you is putting it mildly. hf

I'll try my best to get to the Dream World and surprise you! I guess you'll let us know the last day you'll be here posting, right?

TC!

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Aha! So, because of this I'm probably interfering with my Genius.

I wonder if my Genius for awareness the subconscious is not real would nudge this out of being a value in my perspective? That would be nice.
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Yes and no.

No because you are your Genius.

Yes because there's a shorter path to your destination.
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What were the monks like?
 Quoting: Unit3

Something similar to the architect in the Matrix [link to thepopulist.net]
 Quoting: Chaol

Wow! What was it like to interact with them then?
 Quoting: Unit3

No comment on that one =)
 Quoting: Chaol




Wow, very interesting. OK! Thanks.
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Aha! So, because of this I'm probably interfering with my Genius.

I wonder if my Genius for awareness the subconscious is not real would nudge this out of being a value in my perspective? That would be nice.
 Quoting: Unit3

Yes and no.

No because you are your Genius.

Yes because there's a shorter path to your destination.
 Quoting: Chaol




Oh, that's interesting. OK, thanks.

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