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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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I guess I'm going to have to abandon one of my Genius maps. (I agreed with Chaol to only have 2 Genius maps going right now.) Anyway, the climate here is in a disaster that looks like it will only get worse unless I do something, LOL!

I posted Genius maps re: climate disasters but Choal didn't answer them. I don't know how to interpret why he didn't answer (because it could be he just missed the post). Instead, I'm posting a Genius here and would like input. Thanks.


Desired Perception: Green grass, trees, lakes full of water.

Genius Map Intent: Ticket for new pair of rubber rain boots


Symbol:bottle cap wrapped in twine with bits of cotton in it.

Space: Street in biggest 4-way intersection by my house.

Interaction: Cars, joggers, weather.

Logic: Mark spreadsheet with ./ every time my rain gauge has 3" in one day. Do 3 jumping jacks real fast whenever there is 3" of rain, 2 days in a row. Talk like Tweety Bird and say, "I tought I taw a puddy tat in a puddle." when I see a news report that says the drought is over.

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Feeling sad...I know this doesn't add to anything but I feel like I HAVE to post this...for what it's worth...I feel like I lost two people today...
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Feeling sad...I know this doesn't add to anything but I feel like I HAVE to post this...for what it's worth...I feel like I lost two people today...
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Sorry to hear it. Is one of them Chaol?

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Feeling sad...I know this doesn't add to anything but I feel like I HAVE to post this...for what it's worth...I feel like I lost two people today...
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I'm sorry. I hope things improve for ya.

oh, and well put dodec, check this out:
Thread: Is this research showing that the human brain is not us??? - READ THIS

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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Feeling sad...I know this doesn't add to anything but I feel like I HAVE to post this...for what it's worth...I feel like I lost two people today...
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I'm sorry. I hope things improve for ya.

oh, and well put dodec, check this out:
Thread: Is this research showing that the human brain is not us??? - READ THIS
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How do you integrate what Chaol teaches us, which is to change the geometry of the space between brain cells and the rest of this information on the brain?
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Feeling sad...I know this doesn't add to anything but I feel like I HAVE to post this...for what it's worth...I feel like I lost two people today...
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I'm sorry. I hope things improve for ya.

oh, and well put dodec, check this out:
Thread: Is this research showing that the human brain is not us??? - READ THIS
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How do you integrate what Chaol teaches us, which is to change the geometry of the space between brain cells and the rest of this information on the brain?
 Quoting: U3


Are you sure that's what he said? :P

The article is consistent with Chaol's teachings and reaffirms there is "nothing" there :).
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Feeling sad...I know this doesn't add to anything but I feel like I HAVE to post this...for what it's worth...I feel like I lost two people today...
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I'm sorry. I hope things improve for ya.

oh, and well put dodec, check this out:
Thread: Is this research showing that the human brain is not us??? - READ THIS
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda






How do you integrate what Chaol teaches us, which is to change the geometry of the space between brain cells and the rest of this information on the brain?
 Quoting: U3


Are you sure that's what he said? :P

The article is consistent with Chaol's teachings and reaffirms there is "nothing" there :).
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As far as I know, that's why we listen to binaural beats and stare at blue strobe lights.
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U3, I believe Chaol's making an analogy in that context. The variance(relationship) between the audio output sent to either ear is synthesized within perpective as an ilusory sound. Although the sound is not technically being played by the speaker, we hear it as if it were. This sound is our mind making sense of the variance between "sides". The frequency between the tones can have a variation leading to our mind syncing up in wave amplitude and frequency. That experience allows for very specific states of mind. This relationship provides us additional possibility space to interact or apply logic. This same space is highly relative to "chaos" and "change" which is what Chaol is trying to point out (I believe).
hf
Meditation, "sleep" dreaming and day dreaming abuse this possibility as well.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Thanks for the article Jesse, It'll be interesting to read his upcoming articles.

Below is about the nootka language and is interesting



Some languages are structured around quite different basic word- categories and relationships. They project very different pictures of the basic nature of reality as a result. The language of the Nootka Indians in the Pacific Northwest, for example, has only one principle word-category; it denotes happenings or events. A verbal form like “eventing” might better describe this word-category, except that such a form doesn’t sound right in English, with its emphasis on noun forms. We might think of Nootka as composed entirely of verbs, except that they take no subjects or objects as English verbs do. The Nootka, then, perceive the world as a stream of transient events, rather than as the collection of more or less permanent objects which we see. Even something which we see clearly as a physical object, like a house, the Nootka perceive of as a long-lived temporal event. The literal English translation of the Nootka concept might be something like “housing occurs;” or “it houses.
What we are observing is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning. And how do we question? All of our methods of interrogating nature depend on language—and it is the very nature of language to refer to things. We therefore think in terms of things. How can we possibly think of nonthings, nothings, nothing? In our very forms of thought we instinctively divide the world into subjects and objects, thinkers and things, mind and matter. This division seems so natural that it has been presumed a basic maxim of objective science.

reality is the way we experience it, which is rarely how it actually is. And our experience of reality is largely a function of our beliefs about reality, how reality occurs for us, and the language we use to describe reality.
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U3, I believe Chaol's making an analogy in that context. The variance(relationship) between the audio output sent to either ear is synthesized within perpective as an ilusory sound. Although the sound is not technically being played by the speaker, we hear it as if it were. This sound is our mind making sense of the variance between "sides". The frequency between the tones can have a variation leading to our mind syncing up in wave amplitude and frequency. That experience allows for very specific states of mind. This relationship provides us additional possibility space to interact or apply logic. This same space is highly relative to "chaos" and "change" which is what Chaol is trying to point out (I believe).
hf
Meditation, "sleep" dreaming and day dreaming abuse this possibility as well.
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I don't know, Jesse. And I sure don't know how to explain much of it. I have plenty of questions about all of it, too.

But, I do feel most of what Chaol teaches and recommends, is to train (not sure if this is the correct word but I'll go with it) the brain, so it is receptive.

How all this works doesn't interest me as much as knowing what works. So, thanks for sharing your understanding of all of it.

I can't really make a good comment, just observations from my time here.
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Me...ac 32525250...

Yes, one of them is Chaol...I haven't posted but once before but I've read all 300+ pages of 'his' threads since November and I can't explain how much I've changed...I love reading this "knowledge" and implementing it my life...I'm trying not to have these attachments but its hard...

PLEASE DO NOT STOP THIS THREAD...even if you don't want to participate ( like me usually) others LEARN just from reading your individual perspectives....Jesse & U3 especially...

Just a lurker but I'm getting there...

Funny after I posted I was 'sad' I put on Pink Floyd, Momentary Lapse of Reason, and went to sleep...I guess the vibrations made me 'feel' better...

Everyone thanks Chaol (and I do too) but without the rest of you (JESSE & Unit3 especially) I wouldn't have 'learned' anything...

On another note, anyone else notice as you start to learn EC regular language (English for me) doesn't seem to work anymore...I'm not even good at it yet but now that I'm 'thinking' in EC language doesn't serve me much purpose...I'm really interested in you Jesse, cause I read you have this up at your work and I believe you might be with me in 'thinking' in EC, even if not 'speaking' it....
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Thanks for the article Jesse, It'll be interesting to read his upcoming articles.

Below is about the nootka language and is interesting



Some languages are structured around quite different basic word- categories and relationships. They project very different pictures of the basic nature of reality as a result. The language of the Nootka Indians in the Pacific Northwest, for example, has only one principle word-category; it denotes happenings or events. A verbal form like “eventing” might better describe this word-category, except that such a form doesn’t sound right in English, with its emphasis on noun forms. We might think of Nootka as composed entirely of verbs, except that they take no subjects or objects as English verbs do. The Nootka, then, perceive the world as a stream of transient events, rather than as the collection of more or less permanent objects which we see. Even something which we see clearly as a physical object, like a house, the Nootka perceive of as a long-lived temporal event. The literal English translation of the Nootka concept might be something like “housing occurs;” or “it houses.
What we are observing is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning. And how do we question? All of our methods of interrogating nature depend on language—and it is the very nature of language to refer to things. We therefore think in terms of things. How can we possibly think of nonthings, nothings, nothing? In our very forms of thought we instinctively divide the world into subjects and objects, thinkers and things, mind and matter. This division seems so natural that it has been presumed a basic maxim of objective science.

reality is the way we experience it, which is rarely how it actually is. And our experience of reality is largely a function of our beliefs about reality, how reality occurs for us, and the language we use to describe reality.

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Chaol is big on language. Do you remember the link to the book on language? He posted it twice.
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Me...ac 32525250...

Yes, one of them is Chaol...I haven't posted but once before but I've read all 300+ pages of 'his' threads since November and I can't explain how much I've changed...I love reading this "knowledge" and implementing it my life...I'm trying not to have these attachments but its hard...

PLEASE DO NOT STOP THIS THREAD...even if you don't want to participate ( like me usually) others LEARN just from reading your individual perspectives....Jesse & U3 especially...

Just a lurker but I'm getting there...

Funny after I posted I was 'sad' I put on Pink Floyd, Momentary Lapse of Reason, and went to sleep...I guess the vibrations made me 'feel' better...

Everyone thanks Chaol (and I do too) but without the rest of you (JESSE & Unit3 especially) I wouldn't have 'learned' anything...

On another note, anyone else notice as you start to learn EC regular language (English for me) doesn't seem to work anymore...I'm not even good at it yet but now that I'm 'thinking' in EC language doesn't serve me much purpose...I'm really interested in you Jesse, cause I read you have this up at your work and I believe you might be with me in 'thinking' in EC, even if not 'speaking' it....
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Wow! Thanks so much for posting this. I know just how you feel. When Chaol told us he was leaving, I got really depressed. I had looked so forward to him being back so we could talk with him. It hit pretty hard when he said he was leaving again so soon.

I didn't try to fight the depression or cover it, though. I just allowed the feeling and now it's gone. It didn't take long either. In fact, I'm pretty happy, which surprises me.

Anyway, it helps me to read his threads when he's gone because it kinda seems like he is here. And he is in a way. Even though we can't ask him questions of him, it helps to keep this thread going. It's nice to have each other.

So thanks for letting us know because I feel kinda bad hogging the thread so much, LOL! Btw, I'm not even trying not to have attachments to this right now. I'm addicted, plain and simple. I'm more concerned with the attachments to the dream life than attachments to this knowledge.

Please post any time you want. You aren't really a lurker anymore. ;o) And hugz!
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^Made me cry...silly I know...
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Okay, so I'm going to start re-reading from page 1...forget the sadness...it's only fleeting...
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^Made me cry...silly I know...
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
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Okay, so I'm going to start re-reading from page 1...forget the sadness...it's only fleeting...
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Good. It is fleeting.

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^Made me cry...silly I know...
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Check this out, it's one of Chaol's threads too:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 51)
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Me...ac32525250...

I want to explore 'dream world' ...I'm very good at lucid dreaming but kinda scared...

Help me cause I know you know...send me a symbol for interaction later on...I am receptive...I NEED TO KNOW MORE...
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I meant to get your attention U3...please lead me the right way...
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I want to explore 'dream world' ...I'm very good at lucid dreaming but kinda scared...

Help me cause I know you know...send me a symbol for interaction later on...I am receptive...I NEED TO KNOW MORE...
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Go to that thread. All the instructions are there plus a password. You have to make up your own symbol. Just put 2 squiggles together.

No reason to be scared. Chaol has fixed it so there is nothing to harm us.
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Me...ac32525250...

I want to explore 'dream world' ...I'm very good at lucid dreaming but kinda scared...

Help me cause I know you know...send me a symbol for interaction later on...I am receptive...I NEED TO KNOW MORE...
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Go to that thread. All the instructions are there plus a password. You have to make up your own symbol. Just put 2 squiggles together.

No reason to be scared. Chaol has fixed it so there is nothing to harm us.
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Here's the exact post with the dream instructions:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 51)
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Thank you...haven't read yet...working on my art...I feel very inspired...not usual for my very 'structured' mind...I'm trying to let go...

THANK YOU
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Cya tonight....
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Cya tonight....
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LOL! I finally figured out you didn't know about the Dream thread. I knew you'd be a natural. Let us know how it goes for you.

And hey, did you notice the change in your feelings? Heh!

Love to see some of your artwork, if you want to show it.
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I've been thinking about this, so I thought I'd just ask about it here. I don't know if Chaol has addressed it or not.

Anyway, our worlds are merging. If Chaol hadn't been the explorer he is and found us, and then met a girlfriend here, what would have happened with the merging?

I believe he mentioned the merge would have taken another 30 years had he not come along. And, I know Chaol said he is helping to make the merge happen faster and in a certain way, but other than that, what would have happened?

Does any one have more info. on this? I'm just curious. Thanks.
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U3 if not for Chaol, in 2013 the world would obviously be run by zombie nazis on dinosaurs.
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U3 if not for Chaol, in 2013 the world would obviously be run by zombie nazis on dinosaurs.
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For sure. But, what about the merging? If we did not have him, how would the merge take place? Iow, how would we have gotten "there"? Look how hard some of us have to work at it WITH Chaol's help.

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It is kind of senseless to look for "you" inside a brain, because the brain is just an image-maker. All it sees are illusions, which are not there at all. Recall that Chaol has already stated that you are not actually thinking. You are only perceiving the geometries of relationships, which also are illusionary.

"Practice thinking outside of your body."
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U3 I don't remember dreaming last nite (though I did read that page you sent me) but I woke up HAPPY and ready to face my 'nothing' day...LOL

thank you for your kind words but more importantly thank you for your kind thoughts! You know what I mean....

I'm extremely private so I doubt I would 'show' my art here....how about I show you under the tree tonight?


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