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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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If anyone has had success in making something "not relevant", I would love to hear about it. I'm still thinking about this, myself.

As he says, ignoring it isn't the answer. I already know this, it doesn't work!
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Yes, definitely! It happens all the time and what is key is non-resistance. Thing is, I can hardly remember the things I have now made non-relevant!
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Do you remember HOW you made them non-relevant?
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go to 1.05 - pigeon superstition, reminds me of how we use the genius in our everyday lives



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If anyone has had success in making something "not relevant", I would love to hear about it. I'm still thinking about this, myself.

As he says, ignoring it isn't the answer. I already know this, it doesn't work!
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Yes, definitely! It happens all the time and what is key is non-resistance. Thing is, I can hardly remember the things I have now made non-relevant!
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Do you remember HOW you made them non-relevant?
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Yes, using non-resistance when they came my way.
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Yes, using non-resistance when they came my way.
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"Meh" works really well for me.

How can anything bother you if it just doesn't bother you in the first place?
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Yes, using non-resistance when they came my way.
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"Meh" works really well for me.

How can anything bother you if it just doesn't bother you in the first place?
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I yike it!!!!
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Yes, using non-resistance when they came my way.
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"Meh" works really well for me.

How can anything bother you if it just doesn't bother you in the first place?
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I yike it!!!!
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Sorry. To add: you must look at it first. It is important to look at something closely before moving on to something else. The "meh" comes after interfacing with the initial relationship.
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Religions of the East, passed on through: Hindus, Chinese, Buddhists, Theophists, Anthroposophists and Yogis, is the same wisdom built into the glyphs, statues and temples of Egypt.

R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz
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I constantly run into this fellow in my research. He spent 15 years studying the Egyptian temples and interpreting the inscriptions and measurements found there.

It appears that he is a premier Western occult mathematician who, for one, re-introduced the notion of evaluating the I Ching in terms of binary numbers. This can also be applied to the neuronicons...and to DNA/RNA...and to vortex mathematics.

There is an entire universe of numbers sitting on our doorstep. As it turns out, numbers are not at all boring.

I think Lubicz may be the one who started the ball rolling. He is quoted and his conclusions analyzed, endlessly.
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A footnote in the cosmology described in the the aforementioned book, "Thrice-Greatest Hermes":

Horus represents the Heart and Thoth represents the Tongue, also known as the Word.
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This link?
[link to www.crystalinks.com]



or this one?

[link to books.google.com]

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Yes, using non-resistance when they came my way.
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"Meh" works really well for me.

How can anything bother you if it just doesn't bother you in the first place?
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I yike it!!!!
 Quoting: U3

Sorry. To add: you must look at it first. It is important to look at something closely before moving on to something else. The "meh" comes after interfacing with the initial relationship.
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I've been interfacing with it....looking for roots, etc: then using it as a prompt for a different thought. I'll try Meh now.

Any other suggestions...I'm all ears!
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Religions of the East, passed on through: Hindus, Chinese, Buddhists, Theophists, Anthroposophists and Yogis, is the same wisdom built into the glyphs, statues and temples of Egypt.

R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz
 Quoting: U3

I constantly run into this fellow in my research. He spent 15 years studying the Egyptian temples and interpreting the inscriptions and measurements found there.

It appears that he is a premier Western occult mathematician who, for one, re-introduced the notion of evaluating the I Ching in terms of binary numbers. This can also be applied to the neuronicons...and to DNA/RNA...and to vortex mathematics.

There is an entire universe of numbers sitting on our doorstep. As it turns out, numbers are not at all boring.

I think Lubicz may be the one who started the ball rolling. He is quoted and his conclusions analyzed, endlessly.
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For years, he was ignored but now, there is new interest in his work. I don't think what he said was understood.

I'd like to get into the numbers...but right now, it's not quite gelling for me. I can say this though.....I now have a profound understanding of their power...so that's a great start.

Reading, Embracing the Wide Sky, helped me. Numbers were/are a resistance. :
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Yes, using non-resistance when they came my way.
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"Meh" works really well for me.

How can anything bother you if it just doesn't bother you in the first place?
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Well, things just do, sometimes! People do, events do. (in my perspective, that goes without saying ;) )
And then, if I wish, I can slip into non-resistance.
But maybe I do want to continue to be bothered by some things.
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R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz online documents
[link to esotericonline.net]
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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Sometimes we're just NOT BOTHERED!

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A footnote in the cosmology described in the the aforementioned book, "Thrice-Greatest Hermes":

Horus represents the Heart and Thoth represents the Tongue, also known as the Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315

This link?
[link to www.crystalinks.com]

or this one?

[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: U3

Here: [link to archive.org]

Volume 1, Page 132
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I'd like to get into the numbers...but right now, it's not quite gelling for me. I can say this though.....I now have a profound understanding of their power...so that's a great start.

Reading, Embracing the Wide Sky, helped me. Numbers were/are a resistance. :
 Quoting: U3

I have to walk away from it for awhile. My body actually shakes from explosions of realization. It is all so deep and so huge...

Major change of perspective!

Interesting book by Tammet. I put it on my reading list. I already have a stack of books to read that seems to be reproducing itself and growing overnight. I have to just add titles to a list instead of acquiring the actual book (or .pdf, whichever it may be).

Please explain "Numbers were/are a resistance." Thanks.
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But maybe I do want to continue to be bothered by some things.
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That is the 30% of my life (well, am whittling it down to, say 25%) that keeps me on the edge. Must not get too comfortable!
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Sometimes we're just NOT BOTHERED!
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Funny! Of course, when you're truly not bothered, you don't react. Shoulder shrugs are good for exhibiting this, IMHO.
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But maybe I do want to continue to be bothered by some things.
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That is the 30% of my life (well, am whittling it down to, say 25%) that keeps me on the edge. Must not get too comfortable!
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Ha! Nice one!
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Sometimes we're just NOT BOTHERED!
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Funny! Of course, when you're truly not bothered, you don't react. Shoulder shrugs are good for exhibiting this, IMHO.
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Absolutely!
Today, all this seems so funny! I keep wanting to find silly videos to make you all laugh with me
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I'd like to get into the numbers...but right now, it's not quite gelling for me. I can say this though.....I now have a profound understanding of their power...so that's a great start.

Reading, Embracing the Wide Sky, helped me. Numbers were/are a resistance. :
 Quoting: U3

I have to walk away from it for awhile. My body actually shakes from explosions of realization. It is all so deep and so huge...

Major change of perspective!

Interesting book by Tammet. I put it on my reading list. I already have a stack of books to read that seems to be reproducing itself and growing overnight. I have to just add titles to a list instead of acquiring the actual book (or .pdf, whichever it may be).

Please explain "Numbers were/are a resistance." Thanks.
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I have had a mental block about numbers....block came from traumatic, childhood experiences and REALLY low self-esteem.

All my perception, of course! Heh!

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Sometimes we're just NOT BOTHERED!
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Funny! Of course, when you're truly not bothered, you don't react. Shoulder shrugs are good for exhibiting this, IMHO.
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Absolutely!
Today, all this seems so funny! I keep wanting to find silly videos to make you all laugh with me
 Quoting: Marshwiggle





I haven't had a chance to watch any of them yet...but I'm looking forward to it. I'll go ahead and laugh with you now, anyway, LOL!

Yesterday, I randomly picked up a stick to carry with me on my walk. It had springy twigs on the end which I enjoyed using as a pretend whip..........when all of a sudden, I whipped my own head, LOL! (It didn't hurt anything but my pride, heh!)

After the walk, I carried a tennis shoe as a purse later in the day. I don't need much to keep me laughing, LOL!

afro 1rof1 lmao lol
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A footnote in the cosmology described in the the aforementioned book, "Thrice-Greatest Hermes":

Horus represents the Heart and Thoth represents the Tongue, also known as the Word.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315

This link?
[link to www.crystalinks.com]

or this one?

[link to books.google.com]
 Quoting: U3

Here: [link to archive.org]

Volume 1, Page 132
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Awesome! Thanks.

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Sometimes we're just NOT BOTHERED!

[link to www.youtube.com]
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tounge
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I haven't had a chance to watch any of them yet...but I'm looking forward to it. I'll go ahead and laugh with you now, anyway, LOL!

Yesterday, I randomly picked up a stick to carry with me on my walk. It had springy twigs on the end which I enjoyed using as a pretend whip..........when all of a sudden, I whipped my own head, LOL! (It didn't hurt anything but my pride, heh!)

After the walk, I carried a tennis shoe as a purse later in the day. I don't need much to keep me laughing, LOL!

afro 1rof1 lmao lol
 Quoting: U3


Well, the one on the train is just minutes. So go ahead, and watch it now!!

The film, Mr Nobody, is 2 and a half hours of settle down and enjoy material.

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I haven't had a chance to watch any of them yet...but I'm looking forward to it. I'll go ahead and laugh with you now, anyway, LOL!

Yesterday, I randomly picked up a stick to carry with me on my walk. It had springy twigs on the end which I enjoyed using as a pretend whip..........when all of a sudden, I whipped my own head, LOL! (It didn't hurt anything but my pride, heh!)

After the walk, I carried a tennis shoe as a purse later in the day. I don't need much to keep me laughing, LOL!

afro 1rof1 lmao lol
 Quoting: U3


Well, the one on the train is just minutes. So go ahead, and watch it now!!

The film, Mr Nobody, is 2 and a half hours of settle down and enjoy material.
 Quoting: Marshwiggle





The train one is hilarious, LOL! I really cracked up when her phone rang, heh!

Kewl....I'd like to watch a movie. Thanks!


Oh...and FYI....about my day yesterday....I could go on and on...those are just the highlights, hehe!



Edit: I've seen this....but I don't remember it. Looks tres interesante'.

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Religions of the East, passed on through: Hindus, Chinese, Buddhists, Theophists, Anthroposophists and Yogis, is the same wisdom built into the glyphs, statues and temples of Egypt.

R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz
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I constantly run into this fellow in my research. He spent 15 years studying the Egyptian temples and interpreting the inscriptions and measurements found there.

It appears that he is a premier Western occult mathematician who, for one, re-introduced the notion of evaluating the I Ching in terms of binary numbers. This can also be applied to the neuronicons...and to DNA/RNA...and to vortex mathematics.

There is an entire universe of numbers sitting on our doorstep. As it turns out, numbers are not at all boring.

I think Lubicz may be the one who started the ball rolling. He is quoted and his conclusions analyzed, endlessly.
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Correction!

I got my Lubiczes mixed up with my Leibnizes!

Here is the fellow who "noted with fascination how the I Ching hexagrams correspond to the binary numbers from 0 to 111111, and concluded that this mapping was evidence of major Chinese accomplishments in the sort of philosophical mathematics he admired.

...he concluded that Europeans could learn much from the Confucian ethical tradition. He mulled over the possibility that the Chinese characters were an unwitting form of his universal characteristic."

Universal Characteristic

The Latin term characteristica universalis, commonly interpreted as universal characteristic, or universal character in English, is a universal and formal language imagined by the German philosopher Gottfried Leibniz able to express mathematical, scientific, and metaphysical concepts. Leibniz thus hoped to create a language usable within the framework of a universal logical calculation or calculus ratiocinator.

Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
Born: 1646. Died: 1716.
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Fascinating thinker!
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...

I have to walk away from it for awhile. My body actually shakes from explosions of realization. It is all so deep and so huge...

Major change of perspective!

Interesting book by Tammet. I put it on my reading list. I already have a stack of books to read that seems to be reproducing itself and growing overnight. I have to just add titles to a list instead of acquiring the actual book (or .pdf, whichever it may be).

Please explain "Numbers were/are a resistance." Thanks.
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I have had a mental block about numbers....block came from traumatic, childhood experiences and REALLY low self-esteem.

All my perception, of course! Heh!
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Then, you may be pleasantly surprised by the mathematics of the new world. As far as I can tell, it appears that numbers represent concepts, and those numbers/concepts relate to each other. Numbers in the new world are not used to count and measure things so much as they are used according to their relationships with each other.

Isn't this what Tammet is explaining in the book, "Embracing the Wide Sky"? After reading the book's summary, it seems that I am reaching the same conclusions, but while looking in other directions.

Hey, hey! A new way of thinking!
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R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz online documents
[link to esotericonline.net]
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OMG! Look at this from the link:

The Temple in Man
R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz

Page 96

"The organs of the direct intellect—principally, the pituitary gland (hypophesis) and the pineal "eye" (epiphysis)—are located in the southern secret sanctuaries. The pituitary gland, being located at the entrance of room 1 (the central secret sanctuary) is thus considered a doorway—that is to say, as a passage."

I wrote about this very thing on the other thread:

The wizard in the library told me, "I represent your pituitary".
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Excerpts from:

The Temple in Man
R.A. Schwaller de Lubicz

What are gods?

Science becomes mythology in an other perspective.

Are we not exploring physics by telling the story of the gods? Some express ideas in numbers, some in stories. But each is built from relationships. And cultures explore relationships in different ways.

We wonder of the ancients wit but see their math as a religion or a mythology.
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"That these ancient peoples thought differently than we do—and that we must understand this difference if we are to study them properly—seems obvious, but an example will show how difficult it is to put this idea into practice. Schwaller de Lubicz explains in Le Temple de l'Homme (Caracteres, 1957) that in the ancient temple civilization of Egypt, numbers, our most ancient form of symbol, did not simply designate quantities but instead were considered to be concrete definitions of energetic formative principles of nature. The Egyptians called these energetic principles Neters, a word which is conventionally rendered as 'gods'."

Then, you may be pleasantly surprised by the mathematics of the new world. As far as I can tell, it appears that numbers represent concepts, and those numbers/concepts relate to each other. Numbers in the new world are not used to count and measure things so much as they are used according to their relationships with each other.
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"In considering the esoteric meaning of Number, we must avoid the following mistake: Two is not One and One; it is not a composite. It is the multiplying Work; it is the notion of the plus in relation to the minus; it is a new Unity; it is sexuality; it is the origin of Nature.

Physis, the Neter Two. It is the Culmination (the separating moment of the full moon, for example); it is the line, the stick, movement, the way, Wotan, Odin, the Meter Thoth, Mercury, Spirit."

Chaol's "X"
Some legends are of a red dragon such as Nibiru. This serpent form also represents the dream world. The "planet of the crossing" can be thought of as crossing over into the dream world, not just crossing your orbit.

If you read some of your 'ancient' texts in this light they would make a lot more sense.
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"Also, when the ancients considered the process of mathematical multiplication, their mode of calculation had a direct relationship with natural life processes as well as metaphysical ones. Schwaller de Lubicz called this mode the "principle of the crossing" (interestingly, we today continue to symbolize multiplication with the sign of a cross: X). This crossing was not a sterile, mental, numerical manipulation but a symbol for the process by which things enter into corporeal existence. All birth into nature requires a crossing of opposites. It can be the crossing of vertical and horizontal lines, which give birth to the square, the first measurable surface; or male and female, giving birth to a new individual; or warp and weft, creating a fabric; or light, and darkness, giving birth to tangible forms; or matter and spirit, giving birth to life itself. Thus the vital linking up of the mental abstraction of calculation with its counterpart in natural phenomena gave the ancient mathematician a living and philosophic basis for his science."
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A bit of entertainment: My neighbors are outside in their backyard, drinking beer. I stepped into my own backyard, thinking "OMG! OMG!" about this Lubicz stuff. One of the men that is drinking started shouting, "Oh, my god!" "Oh, my god!" "Oh, my god!" There was barely a lapse between my thinking it and then hearing it shouted into the wide sky.


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