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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Personally, I don't think I'm very patient. That's where Ecsys comes in.

The table you're sitting at has all of the properties of the newest spaceship. You just have to find them :)
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, thank you for another great post. Could you please elaborate in a way that is more relative to our(my) current understanding of what you've taught?

Just so that you do not have to repeat yourself, I do understand that we(I or perhaps more accurately "this"):

---experience that which takes the least amount of energy(or as stated previously, the least number of interactions) to perceive.

-and-

---can utilize the "genius" to call a particular flavor of experience into perspective by "naming" something "new" or seemingly "unrelative"(lol, which is funny because nothing is perceptible outside of relevancy) both in language and in physical terms (as physicality is the current (most logical) language of perspective), then allow that "representation" to interact with the representations that are already perceived (I understand that none of it "truly" exists, so any perspective is possible as none of it exists anyway). Once the desired outcome is relative, it will be experienced (yet it has been experienced all along).

I realize the steps one takes to "find" them are subjective, but it would be great if you gave some(more) advice on this.

Thanks a ton.
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The table does not become the spaceship by itself.

You discover the spaceship in it. Meaning, it 'morphs' into a spaceship in your mind. But not as the spaceship you know (hence, unseen) but the one you don't know (yet).

Realize that the spaceship and the table are the same thing. However, because its essence (nothing) cannot be contained in any one perception it appears to be separate when it is perceived.

(It may be more than two things in your perspective, but for this illustration let's say it is one.)

If your desire is to build a new spaceship then you can start with anything. Taking the nearest table, you would treat it as though it had properties of an advanced spaceship.

This, in a way, coaxes your perception into uncovering those properties for you. The values are all ready there but they did not previously have any reason to be perceived. Now you are giving them a reason.

This does not mean that your table will magically turn into a spaceship. However, it does mean that the spaceship will become more relative to your perspective. Because you are all ready perceiving 'parts' of it.

So the table is a stepping-stone to the new spaceship. It's distance to your perspective really depends on how relative it is to it.

A couple of examples of how this could play out:

1) Opening the table's drawer that you never really noticed was there leads you to a stack of papers that your father had. They are university transcripts. You see that his marks for science were quite high and suddenly you feel confident that science is what you should do. You soon enroll at a local university's physics program and the rest is history.

2) Turning the table upside down and riding on it for a couple of hours was fun, especially when the cat joined in. But somehow you got a wooden splinter on your rear and now you're driving to the nearest pharmacy, sans cat. While there you meet an old friend. Memories are briefly shared. He shows you a picture of something that he found in his garage on his mobile, and this makes you think of a new invention that will evolve into a spaceship in 20 years.

These are both logical narratives for your mind. It is relating one thing to an other thing in a way that makes sense to it.

The table 'becomes' the spaceship in this way. It may be 5 minutes or 5 years or, depending on how relative it is, may never be experienced. But it is all ready experienced now, in some way.

The question then is, "How many steps from here to there?"

How do you get there? You start with the first thought, and take the path of least resistance.

In both examples above you may claim that Chaol is nuts and Ecsys does not work. But it is how perspective works. It is not magic. It is logic.

This is what we do all of the time. It is how we go from what seems like one experience to the next. We can make something more relative to our experience by uncovering it in our current experience, then it becomes more logical for us to experience (and then we experience more of it).
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Been doing this with some of my Ec strings!
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Hi Chaol! :) Love that you're back and your recent posts.

Making the wall irrelevant makes sense, as does the concept of experiencing any thing via relationship to me (perspective). Any thing that is... re-incorporated (?) is therefore not experienced/seen because it is not "outside" of me to experience. (Hoping this is making sense. I really did have a few big a-ha pings today, I promise.)

I'm trying to understand how the below statement fits in with making unwanted things (walls, bills, whatever) irrelevant, as well as how it fits into the statement that one cannot truly perceive that which is irrelevant to one's perspective.

Are you using "irrelevant" differently in each case?

For bonus points, take a look at what you really want and ignore it (make it irrelevant).
 Quoting: Chaol


What's tripping me up is that it sounds like what you're saying is that for both wanted/desired experiences (what I really want) and un-wanted experiences/aspects/values, we are to make them all irrelevant?

- Make it relative and irrelevant, and then I will experience that (what I really want).

- Make it irrelevant, and I will not experience that (not experience the walls, therefore walk "through" them to keep that analogy).

Does not compute. I don't think this is actually what you're saying... ?

So, thanks so much for your help and clarity!

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 918001


Good question.

In both cases, you are setting up an experience where the wall or the bill is not needed.

They become irrelevant to your perspective. In these new realities:

1) There is no need to go through the wall; and

2) The bill does not need to be there (or does not need to be paid, etc)

Let's say for #1 you are stuck in a room with no exit. Unless you find a way to somehow go through the wall you will die.

So you think back to this thread and, after a few frustrating hours, find out how to make the wall irrelevant to your experience.

[for sake of illustration and lack of better terms...] One moment you are sitting on the floor with your eyes closed. The next moment you are sitting in a park, outside of the wall. You will probably not have a memory of the transition, as it is no longer relevant. You may look over and see a wall that kind of makes you feel uncomfortable. You will remember that a few hours ago you were at home because this will be your new perspective. Even though the 'old perspective' still exists it is no longer relevant for you.

If there is someone else in the walled cell with you they may see you de-materialize as you walk through the wall. But your experience will most likely be very similar to the above.

Hope this clarifies it a bit.
 Quoting: Chaol


Ah, okay. So in the case of looking at "what I really want" is it accurate that you are speaking in terms of the dissolution of lack, or, in the negative? As in, "what I really want" being "no bills" or "no walls"?

Let's say what I really want is a chocolate mint ice-cream cone. Should I look at this and make the choco mint ice-cream cone irrelevant? Or are you suggesting I look at the lack of the ice-cream cone (What I want being "not not having the ice-cream cone") and make that irrelevant?

Thanks for sticking through this, I realize how convoluted it is. Again, appreciate clarity!
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Chaol's talking about how to make things you don't want in your perspective, irrelevant.
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So, did chaol say anything of him returning to this thread?
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So, did chaol say anything of him returning to this thread?
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He said he would be different when he came back. That's about all I know...also that he would be gone longer this time. :o(
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got some VERY useful resources in expanding consciousness for ya:

A new earth by Eckhart tolle...put off reading this for a while, but should have done it sooner.

(google new earth pdf, for a free copy)

Also found three amazing teachers on youtube, definitely check out a few of their videos if you have time!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I think next I will read John Lilly's book: programming the human bio computer. I expect it to be mind blowingly amazing as I am realizing that EVERYTHING is belief: Myself, how I feel, the need to seek, lack of contentment NOW.

I'll keep you all updated, as it is getting hard to articulate realizations I will instead be posting the resources that help me grow the most.


Have fun my friends, don't forget to LOVE the journey... because it'll never end ;)

I am truly glad to have you all here on my journey with me.

I love you all,
en lakech
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got some VERY useful resources in expanding consciousness for ya:

A new earth by Eckhart tolle...put off reading this for a while, but should have done it sooner.

(google new earth pdf, for a free copy)

Also found three amazing teachers on youtube, definitely check out a few of their videos if you have time!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I think next I will read John Lilly's book: programming the human bio computer. I expect it to be mind blowingly amazing as I am realizing that EVERYTHING is belief: Myself, how I feel, the need to seek, lack of contentment NOW.

I'll keep you all updated, as it is getting hard to articulate realizations I will instead be posting the resources that help me grow the most.


Have fun my friends, don't forget to LOVE the journey... because it'll never end ;)

I am truly glad to have you all here on my journey with me.

I love you all,
en lakech
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Love you too, Dodeccccccccccc! Thanks for checking in. hf


Seems all of a sudden several of us are branching out! Btw, do you regard belief as something different from perception?


I've checked out the vids....very nice, thanks. Look forward to a review on John Lilly's book too, if you choose to share it! Looked at my library to see if they have his book...they don't but they have one called: Programming the Universe:




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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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Yes, I didn't quite get that, lol!
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i dont get it what do you mean consciousness does not exist? if consciousness didnt exist in your world then how did you become conscious all of a sudden?? thats the only thing about it that sounds like bs to me.. but i am aware there are plenty of alternate universes for i have died and came into a differant alternate a few times within this incarnation but always came to the next nearest reality to the one i was in before so it was practically the same place only slightly varied.. explain to me how you have no consciousness?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103381


Hi.

This is because you cannot perceive anything directly.

You can only be aware of the relationships, like comparing one thing to another.

When you're perceiving the Sun, for example, you're actually perceiving yourself, not how the Sun actually is. (This isn't new age talk. It's scientific 'fact')

And so it's the same when you're perceiving anything else.

The awareness is an illusion. We can't really be aware of something.

It's a lot deeper than this, but that's the general idea.
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He, he!
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The most amazing thread on GLP ever!
Thanks!
Bumping:)
Questions I have are:

Can meditation be used to attract perceptions?
If so, what kind of meditation?
Zen Meditation, what are your thoughts on it?
The one that focuses on breathing?
What about the one that focuses on Love and kindness?
Can one use meditation to practice Ecsys?
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Hi.

In a way, you're always meditating. But to answer your question, yes it can be used to attract perceptions. It doesn't actually matter what kind of meditation. In a way, they're all the same.

I am not really familiar with Zen meditation in particular.

What matters is *you* and what you really believe, not the brand name of the process.

However, if your goal is health and peace of mind then focusing on breath and other meditation would help.

Love and kindness are subjective terms. Not sure how that could be done but I suppose if it works for you or someone...

Ecsys isn't really to meditation, so I'm not sure how this could be done.

Do drugs like salvia, mushrooms and acid break down this realities?
 Quoting: www.leonbasin.net 940608


I don't know much about drugs, but they seem to change the relationships in your perception.

Any food, drug, beverage, etc., changes the relationships.

The question is, by how much?

I wouldn't recommend any dramatic perceptual changes, however. A gradual change is probably better.

Tell me more about dreams?
If one can go into your world through dreams, can one go to the creators worlds too?
 Quoting: www.leonbasin.net 940608


What would you like to know about dreams?

What do you mean by "the creators worlds"?

Has anyone else undrestood Ecsys before you?
Is this your concept?
 Quoting: www.leonbasin.net 940608


Most of my world understands what I call Ecsys.

We call it "X", have different representations for the Gods, and some other details are missing but the idea is pretty much the same.

It would be like if you went to another world and imported a familiar concept from your world to it, using locally-available resources and presenting it in a way that could be more easily understood.

As we progress with Ecsys, the concepts will become easier to understand for most (and new, more difficult concepts will be presented).

What authors/writers/people you have come into contact with, have used ecsys and have come away with understanding?
Is there other people like you?
 Quoting: www.leonbasin.net 940608


There are many people in your world who have understood the general meaning of Ecsys, from ancient history to the present.

Although usually it's quite difficult (impossible?) to understand exactly what it means.

Sometimes Ecsys is called Planet X or Blue Star Kachina or the Great Shift or the Singularity or something else.

It's not that Ecsys is these things. But this world is merging with the dream world and the understandings in my world represent this change.

Are there other people from my world that are living in your world? Yes, quite a lot. Most probably don't know or care, just as you probably don't care about the dream worlds you inhabit. But of those that are aware, living in this world, and are actively doing something to prepare your world for the change there are only a few.

I understand everything your saying, my problem is putting it to practice.
Please, let us know when your book or whatever other resources you have will be finished.
Thank You Chaol!
Leon
 Quoting: www.leonbasin.net 940608


Gradual change is best. It is coming. Once the concepts become more familiar it will be easier.

The 'Book of Ecsys' will just be a duplicate of the website, in e-book and printed book form (limited release for the printed book).

Glad to help :)
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Didn't know this about Blue Star Kachina and Singularity!

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Perhaps the most important part of the newly-released material is this:

We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive.

This is probably the most important bit of information I've brought over to this world.

It means that there is nothing outside of your perspective until you perceive it.

(Everything in the universe is represented in what you are experiencing right now.)

Light has no wavelength, sound has no frequency, waters have no depth, the sun is smaller than the moon.. until you perceive it or perceive it otherwise. (Sounds crazy, I know.)

What does that mean for you? It means it's easy to change your reality.
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Interesting!
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Hi Chaol,

Will you give the meanings behind the 66 ec characters some of the words i am not familiar with?

unu, tatat, sumi ,nari, booba

 Quoting: Vegatech


Hi.

The 66 characters are symbols.

For example, what is the meaning of "B"?

The meaning of the symbol depends on the context in which it is used. As illustrated, each has a meaning inherent to its position.

So for example the first character here: [link to ecsys.org] means "strong symbolic input, neutral symbolic output"

For any concept there is a corresponding definition (and thus word) in EC.

For example, "telephone conversation" would use the 42nd symbol as its first character (pronounced "ERE")

because the first part of the concept is as follows:

input: neutral interaction
output: weak possibility

basically, calling someone up is usually a neutral interaction resulting in a weak possibility.

going to see them in person would be strong interaction, for example.

I will clarify some of the characters and include the numbers that they represent. (As some of the symbols can also be used as numbers)

And i fail to see how thinking these characters will aid in changing our perspective, time travel, dimension travel or whatever we want to experience. when we think in symbols with the associated sound do we still think of the full word associated with that symbol, cat, book and so on but i may be jumping the gun as it is still early days.

 Quoting: Vegatech


This is the most difficult part, I know.

But let's perform a thought experiment, in two parts.

For the first part of the thought experiment imagine that a human being from 50,000 years ago has suddenly appeared in this time, 2010.

It would be very difficult for them to understand what is going on because they would be unable to relate what they see with concepts that they already know.

(e.g., translate things from your language into theirs)

For example, if you gave them a lighter and said "fire" they would not understand what the device is until you turned it on.

Perhaps they will take this device back to their world and use it to scratch their back.

But if they can relate "fire" with their own concept then it makes sense.

For the second part, imagine that you are in the movie, "The Matrix". (I'm assuming you've seen it.) You are at the helm of the main computer and are able to program the Matrix.

Enter a few lines here and there and you 'materialize' a building or some clothes, for example.

So...

EC is a direct interface to your perception.

You can use it to re-program your perspective.

You can use it to link your idea of "chair" not with the use of it (part 1) but with the actual perception of it (part 2).

It is the language of perception. (Or, as close as our current mental abilities will allow.)

When the person in part 1 is able to link "fire" with the perception of it, then the alien technology becomes useful. Their understanding of the concept helps them to perceive it.

Your use of the interface (EC and neuronics) will help you to change your reality.

Also,

With the House of Thoht, does it matter how we symbolize our internal reality in the physical reality,
ie, draw pictures, write down notes ect....

 Quoting: Vegatech


No, it doesn't matter. It's more important how you interact with the representations.

Each interaction further introduces the symbol into your reality and allows it to permeate further within it.

Thank you.

P.S - Love the new site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Vegatech


Thanks. Much more to come. This is only the beginning.
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Nice review plus some of the symbols are used for numbers!
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ok i just got here and from what im seeing is that your from the future or what?
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A world more technologically advanced than this one, but still Earth. So in some ways it is future.

Just another version of Earth.

We are able to travel through time and space using mostly abstract technologies (some of which I explain on the website).

Some of the technologies we use will be used here, as well, in your future.

When you change the idea of what 'science' is then you, too, will see many advancements.

Science in this world is like an oppressive king. People put up with the oppression because of the supposed authority and that's where the food comes from. They forgot that they can actually grow the food themselves and the authority is only an illusion.

In your world science is based on observation and experimentation.

This is good for now, but in my world we realize the importance of perception in observation. This makes all the difference.

Also, in my world just about anyone is able to perform what you would call magic, using some of the tools that I describe.


Using current science you will get there but it will take you a while. For example, along your current path you will probably have a brain-to-computer interface that is compact and mobile. (Emotiv and other companies are working on such devices now.) You will be able to think something and other devices will read and carry out your instructions.

However, you are not on this path.

The world, as you know it, will exist only as a memory.
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Wow, I'm still trying to figure out what happened. When I made my last post, I had just received a contract for a job offer that fit ALL of my Genius Models perfectly...in every aspect. It was the craziest thing--it fit them perfectly! Salary, benefits, training, expenses, travel, tuition reimbursements, EVERYTHING I had made a model for was in there exactly as I had modeled it. Even the interviews and applications leading up to the offer were matched perfectly.

And now, nothing. I would say I've been inexplicably, extraordinarily, elaborately scammed....but this makes zero sense, given the details leading up to the alleged "scam offer contract" not to mention the contract itself. The only end-game for this scam would be stealing my identity...which they could accomplish easily with the information I provided during the initial application...why go through all the other steps and trouble of writing up a bogus contract?? Very, Very, Very: Odd.

This result is just as, if not moreso incredible as the 'coincidences' uncovered during the whole process, as it matched my Genius so perfectly.

Moreover, I cannot begin to imagine why my subconscious (Genius) would have played things out like this. I mean, what a sadistic joker my innerworkings must be!!! Seriously though, I want to know where I went wrong for my Genius to have gone so horribly 'right'...only to be 'not right'.

Anyway, I'll keep posting my [insanity] updates for posterity.

And Chaol, if you're out there (or perhaps behind this!!), I could use a bone. Whad'ya say bud, pretty please???

Jobby jobby jobby!
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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Wow, I'm still trying to figure out what happened. When I made my last post, I had just received a contract for a job offer that fit ALL of my Genius Models perfectly...in every aspect. It was the craziest thing--it fit them perfectly! Salary, benefits, training, expenses, travel, tuition reimbursements, EVERYTHING I had made a model for was in there exactly as I had modeled it. Even the interviews and applications leading up to the offer were matched perfectly.

And now, nothing. I would say I've been inexplicably, extraordinarily, elaborately scammed....but this makes zero sense, given the details leading up to the alleged "scam offer contract" not to mention the contract itself. The only end-game for this scam would be stealing my identity...which they could accomplish easily with the information I provided during the initial application...why go through all the other steps and trouble of writing up a bogus contract?? Very, Very, Very: Odd.

This result is just as, if not moreso incredible as the 'coincidences' uncovered during the whole process, as it matched my Genius so perfectly.

Moreover, I cannot begin to imagine why my subconscious (Genius) would have played things out like this. I mean, what a sadistic joker my innerworkings must be!!! Seriously though, I want to know where I went wrong for my Genius to have gone so horribly 'right'...only to be 'not right'.

Anyway, I'll keep posting my [insanity] updates for posterity.

And Chaol, if you're out there (or perhaps behind this!!), I could use a bone. Whad'ya say bud, pretty please???

Jobby jobby jobby!
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Wow! What exactly happened to make you think it's a bogus offer?

I know how you feel though. I can't figure out why my subconscious got me here just in time for Chaol to leave!!!! And the website to go down, etc:.

I remember earlier posts of people not having the results they thought they would have with a Genius. We just don't know what we are doing yet.

I'd say you have most of the elements figured out though. You've done well. I'm sure sorry this happened, though. To have it all right there and then...boom!

Btw, I'd love to hear of some of the "coincidences" if you feel like talking about it. Although this didn't turn out right, you have experienced a lot.


I'm thinking we should write a group Genius and get Chaol back here!!!!!! (Dang it!) I told him I was going to do a mental symbol to get him back and his response....."You have no idea." I take that to mean we have more power than we realize, heh!

Anyway, thanks so much for the update. I've sure been wondering about you and just thought you were so busy with your new job, you didn't have time for us yet!

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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Aha! Well, it looked good to me. Btw, what was the strobe you tried to link there?

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law of least energy

maybe it is just the most relative way for all your goals to be represented so far, but will change if your resolve doesn't falter.

The universe gives what your highest self wants at every moment, you are always getting exactly what you want.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Aha! Well, it looked good to me. Btw, what was the strobe you tried to link there?
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I was trying to link a strobe app that would function like the mirror of chaos.
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law of least energy

maybe it is just the most relative way for all your goals to be represented so far, but will change if your resolve doesn't falter.

The universe gives what your highest self wants at every moment, you are always getting exactly what you want.

;)
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Want infers a lack of...
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law of least energy

maybe it is just the most relative way for all your goals to be represented so far, but will change if your resolve doesn't falter.

The universe gives what your highest self wants at every moment, you are always getting exactly what you want.

;)
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Want infers a lack of...
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True, in a sense any desire implies a separation, a lack of contentment, a need to search. However I think you can be without lack and still have a preference for what you perceive in your experience.

For me: learning, growth, adventure, joy, love,

But maybe there is just no one really there to want anything.
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But maybe there is just no one really there to want anything.
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Words of wisdom!

In deep contemplation, I reached a place where I consciously realized that "I" am everything and that when one is everything, there is no self. In that mode of comprehension, the "I" is irrelevant.
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Aha! Well, it looked good to me. Btw, what was the strobe you tried to link there?
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I was trying to link a strobe app that would function like the mirror of chaos.
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This was before we talked about strobes here!!!!! How about posting the link here, instead?
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I still don't understand how there is no one here, yet we are learning how to use a Genius for perceptions of our choice.

I don't understand how each of us would say, "Yes, I am alive, I am conscious"......and yet we know it's all programmable.

I've seen All That Is as a puzzle I put together with Ec strings. In this experience, I understood these puzzle pieces are what I call gods.

I don't understand how I know I am creating past and future right now....yet a bridge is closing and won't be available for another 30 years!

I don't understand how I keep perceiving a "spiritual" leader who keeps disappearing.

I don't understand why I'm told things and have experienced things....that indicate a future experience, that doesn't happen....yet sometimes, they do happen!

I don't understand why I've had many different, amazing, confirming coincidences over the years......but now they aren't making sense in context with my life now.

I understand I receive a data stream and interpret it and that's about it.
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I still don't understand how there is no one here, yet we are learning how to use a Genius for perceptions of our choice.

I don't understand how each of us would say, "Yes, I am alive, I am conscious"......and yet we know it's all programmable.
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Everything is as alive as are you. A cell phone is also conscious and can learn to program itself. The floor is alive and can learn to perceive itself differently.

I've seen All That Is as a puzzle I put together with Ec strings. In this experience, I understood these puzzle pieces are what I call gods.
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I like this. It is an interesting insight, particularly when one considers that the "gods" are an abbreviation for a process. Instead of describing the intricate details of a torus or a door that can take you to another world, one can just say "Sekhmet". Instead of getting all involved with the metaphysical meaning of "destroyer", one can just speak the word "Kali", and everybody will understand what you're talking about.

I don't understand how I know I am creating past and future right now....yet a bridge is closing and won't be available for another 30 years!
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But, 30 years only seems like it is far away...as if it is "way over there". You can travel there in an instant. It is already present in your environment. Just find a representation for "30 years away" and bring it into your current perception.

Past and future are all here, right now. Wherever you are located, is where all time is at.

I don't understand how I keep perceiving a "spiritual" leader who keeps disappearing.
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Are you talking about Chaol? He is all over the place! To say that he has "disappeared" only means that you're not "seeing" him! He's everywhere!

Ask a question and watch how it gets answered. Do you really think that Chaol is, like, "out there" somewhere?

He even logs onto this website from time to time, just to let you know IRL that he is still around. He doesn't have to do that, you know. He does it for us.

I don't understand why I'm told things and have experienced things....that indicate a future experience, that doesn't happen....yet sometimes, they do happen!

I don't understand why I've had many different, amazing, confirming coincidences over the years......but now they aren't making sense in context with my life now.
 Quoting: U3

You're not stagnant. Relationships are constantly changing. It is a kaleidiscope.

Release expectations. Declare what you want and then hold onto the rail so that you don't fall off the roller coaster. Enjoy the ride!

Or else, declare what you want and see that it is already there.

I understand I receive a data stream and interpret it and that's about it.
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Yep! Information processing! Do you know yourself yet? lolololol!!!!!

(I laugh, because you are everything and you are Nothing at the same time. You can never perceive yourself directly!)
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Has this been found / mentioned before?

[link to web.archive.org]
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
I'm having fun relating to my devices - laptop, a dvd and my mobile, so far!

Things starting working that weren't. Things that 'shouldn't' work do. Making friends, not slaves, or enemies.

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