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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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got some VERY useful resources in expanding consciousness for ya:

A new earth by Eckhart tolle...put off reading this for a while, but should have done it sooner.

(google new earth pdf, for a free copy)

Also found three amazing teachers on youtube, definitely check out a few of their videos if you have time!

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I think next I will read John Lilly's book: programming the human bio computer. I expect it to be mind blowingly amazing as I am realizing that EVERYTHING is belief: Myself, how I feel, the need to seek, lack of contentment NOW.

I'll keep you all updated, as it is getting hard to articulate realizations I will instead be posting the resources that help me grow the most.


Have fun my friends, don't forget to LOVE the journey... because it'll never end ;)

I am truly glad to have you all here on my journey with me.

I love you all,
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got some VERY useful resources in expanding consciousness for ya:

A new earth by Eckhart tolle...put off reading this for a while, but should have done it sooner.

(google new earth pdf, for a free copy)

Also found three amazing teachers on youtube, definitely check out a few of their videos if you have time!

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I think next I will read John Lilly's book: programming the human bio computer. I expect it to be mind blowingly amazing as I am realizing that EVERYTHING is belief: Myself, how I feel, the need to seek, lack of contentment NOW.

I'll keep you all updated, as it is getting hard to articulate realizations I will instead be posting the resources that help me grow the most.


Have fun my friends, don't forget to LOVE the journey... because it'll never end ;)

I am truly glad to have you all here on my journey with me.

I love you all,
en lakech
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Love you too, Dodeccccccccccc! Thanks for checking in. hf


Seems all of a sudden several of us are branching out! Btw, do you regard belief as something different from perception?


I've checked out the vids....very nice, thanks. Look forward to a review on John Lilly's book too, if you choose to share it! Looked at my library to see if they have his book...they don't but they have one called: Programming the Universe:




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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
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Yes, I didn't quite get that, lol!
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i dont get it what do you mean consciousness does not exist? if consciousness didnt exist in your world then how did you become conscious all of a sudden?? thats the only thing about it that sounds like bs to me.. but i am aware there are plenty of alternate universes for i have died and came into a differant alternate a few times within this incarnation but always came to the next nearest reality to the one i was in before so it was practically the same place only slightly varied.. explain to me how you have no consciousness?
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Hi.

This is because you cannot perceive anything directly.

You can only be aware of the relationships, like comparing one thing to another.

When you're perceiving the Sun, for example, you're actually perceiving yourself, not how the Sun actually is. (This isn't new age talk. It's scientific 'fact')

And so it's the same when you're perceiving anything else.

The awareness is an illusion. We can't really be aware of something.

It's a lot deeper than this, but that's the general idea.
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He, he!
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The most amazing thread on GLP ever!
Thanks!
Bumping:)
Questions I have are:

Can meditation be used to attract perceptions?
If so, what kind of meditation?
Zen Meditation, what are your thoughts on it?
The one that focuses on breathing?
What about the one that focuses on Love and kindness?
Can one use meditation to practice Ecsys?
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Hi.

In a way, you're always meditating. But to answer your question, yes it can be used to attract perceptions. It doesn't actually matter what kind of meditation. In a way, they're all the same.

I am not really familiar with Zen meditation in particular.

What matters is *you* and what you really believe, not the brand name of the process.

However, if your goal is health and peace of mind then focusing on breath and other meditation would help.

Love and kindness are subjective terms. Not sure how that could be done but I suppose if it works for you or someone...

Ecsys isn't really to meditation, so I'm not sure how this could be done.

Do drugs like salvia, mushrooms and acid break down this realities?
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I don't know much about drugs, but they seem to change the relationships in your perception.

Any food, drug, beverage, etc., changes the relationships.

The question is, by how much?

I wouldn't recommend any dramatic perceptual changes, however. A gradual change is probably better.

Tell me more about dreams?
If one can go into your world through dreams, can one go to the creators worlds too?
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What would you like to know about dreams?

What do you mean by "the creators worlds"?

Has anyone else undrestood Ecsys before you?
Is this your concept?
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Most of my world understands what I call Ecsys.

We call it "X", have different representations for the Gods, and some other details are missing but the idea is pretty much the same.

It would be like if you went to another world and imported a familiar concept from your world to it, using locally-available resources and presenting it in a way that could be more easily understood.

As we progress with Ecsys, the concepts will become easier to understand for most (and new, more difficult concepts will be presented).

What authors/writers/people you have come into contact with, have used ecsys and have come away with understanding?
Is there other people like you?
 Quoting: www.leonbasin.net 940608


There are many people in your world who have understood the general meaning of Ecsys, from ancient history to the present.

Although usually it's quite difficult (impossible?) to understand exactly what it means.

Sometimes Ecsys is called Planet X or Blue Star Kachina or the Great Shift or the Singularity or something else.

It's not that Ecsys is these things. But this world is merging with the dream world and the understandings in my world represent this change.

Are there other people from my world that are living in your world? Yes, quite a lot. Most probably don't know or care, just as you probably don't care about the dream worlds you inhabit. But of those that are aware, living in this world, and are actively doing something to prepare your world for the change there are only a few.

I understand everything your saying, my problem is putting it to practice.
Please, let us know when your book or whatever other resources you have will be finished.
Thank You Chaol!
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Gradual change is best. It is coming. Once the concepts become more familiar it will be easier.

The 'Book of Ecsys' will just be a duplicate of the website, in e-book and printed book form (limited release for the printed book).

Glad to help :)
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Didn't know this about Blue Star Kachina and Singularity!

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Perhaps the most important part of the newly-released material is this:

We perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive.

This is probably the most important bit of information I've brought over to this world.

It means that there is nothing outside of your perspective until you perceive it.

(Everything in the universe is represented in what you are experiencing right now.)

Light has no wavelength, sound has no frequency, waters have no depth, the sun is smaller than the moon.. until you perceive it or perceive it otherwise. (Sounds crazy, I know.)

What does that mean for you? It means it's easy to change your reality.
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Interesting!
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Hi Chaol,

Will you give the meanings behind the 66 ec characters some of the words i am not familiar with?

unu, tatat, sumi ,nari, booba

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Hi.

The 66 characters are symbols.

For example, what is the meaning of "B"?

The meaning of the symbol depends on the context in which it is used. As illustrated, each has a meaning inherent to its position.

So for example the first character here: [link to ecsys.org] means "strong symbolic input, neutral symbolic output"

For any concept there is a corresponding definition (and thus word) in EC.

For example, "telephone conversation" would use the 42nd symbol as its first character (pronounced "ERE")

because the first part of the concept is as follows:

input: neutral interaction
output: weak possibility

basically, calling someone up is usually a neutral interaction resulting in a weak possibility.

going to see them in person would be strong interaction, for example.

I will clarify some of the characters and include the numbers that they represent. (As some of the symbols can also be used as numbers)

And i fail to see how thinking these characters will aid in changing our perspective, time travel, dimension travel or whatever we want to experience. when we think in symbols with the associated sound do we still think of the full word associated with that symbol, cat, book and so on but i may be jumping the gun as it is still early days.

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This is the most difficult part, I know.

But let's perform a thought experiment, in two parts.

For the first part of the thought experiment imagine that a human being from 50,000 years ago has suddenly appeared in this time, 2010.

It would be very difficult for them to understand what is going on because they would be unable to relate what they see with concepts that they already know.

(e.g., translate things from your language into theirs)

For example, if you gave them a lighter and said "fire" they would not understand what the device is until you turned it on.

Perhaps they will take this device back to their world and use it to scratch their back.

But if they can relate "fire" with their own concept then it makes sense.

For the second part, imagine that you are in the movie, "The Matrix". (I'm assuming you've seen it.) You are at the helm of the main computer and are able to program the Matrix.

Enter a few lines here and there and you 'materialize' a building or some clothes, for example.

So...

EC is a direct interface to your perception.

You can use it to re-program your perspective.

You can use it to link your idea of "chair" not with the use of it (part 1) but with the actual perception of it (part 2).

It is the language of perception. (Or, as close as our current mental abilities will allow.)

When the person in part 1 is able to link "fire" with the perception of it, then the alien technology becomes useful. Their understanding of the concept helps them to perceive it.

Your use of the interface (EC and neuronics) will help you to change your reality.

Also,

With the House of Thoht, does it matter how we symbolize our internal reality in the physical reality,
ie, draw pictures, write down notes ect....

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No, it doesn't matter. It's more important how you interact with the representations.

Each interaction further introduces the symbol into your reality and allows it to permeate further within it.

Thank you.

P.S - Love the new site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks. Much more to come. This is only the beginning.
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Nice review plus some of the symbols are used for numbers!
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ok i just got here and from what im seeing is that your from the future or what?
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A world more technologically advanced than this one, but still Earth. So in some ways it is future.

Just another version of Earth.

We are able to travel through time and space using mostly abstract technologies (some of which I explain on the website).

Some of the technologies we use will be used here, as well, in your future.

When you change the idea of what 'science' is then you, too, will see many advancements.

Science in this world is like an oppressive king. People put up with the oppression because of the supposed authority and that's where the food comes from. They forgot that they can actually grow the food themselves and the authority is only an illusion.

In your world science is based on observation and experimentation.

This is good for now, but in my world we realize the importance of perception in observation. This makes all the difference.

Also, in my world just about anyone is able to perform what you would call magic, using some of the tools that I describe.


Using current science you will get there but it will take you a while. For example, along your current path you will probably have a brain-to-computer interface that is compact and mobile. (Emotiv and other companies are working on such devices now.) You will be able to think something and other devices will read and carry out your instructions.

However, you are not on this path.

The world, as you know it, will exist only as a memory.
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Wow, I'm still trying to figure out what happened. When I made my last post, I had just received a contract for a job offer that fit ALL of my Genius Models perfectly...in every aspect. It was the craziest thing--it fit them perfectly! Salary, benefits, training, expenses, travel, tuition reimbursements, EVERYTHING I had made a model for was in there exactly as I had modeled it. Even the interviews and applications leading up to the offer were matched perfectly.

And now, nothing. I would say I've been inexplicably, extraordinarily, elaborately scammed....but this makes zero sense, given the details leading up to the alleged "scam offer contract" not to mention the contract itself. The only end-game for this scam would be stealing my identity...which they could accomplish easily with the information I provided during the initial application...why go through all the other steps and trouble of writing up a bogus contract?? Very, Very, Very: Odd.

This result is just as, if not moreso incredible as the 'coincidences' uncovered during the whole process, as it matched my Genius so perfectly.

Moreover, I cannot begin to imagine why my subconscious (Genius) would have played things out like this. I mean, what a sadistic joker my innerworkings must be!!! Seriously though, I want to know where I went wrong for my Genius to have gone so horribly 'right'...only to be 'not right'.

Anyway, I'll keep posting my [insanity] updates for posterity.

And Chaol, if you're out there (or perhaps behind this!!), I could use a bone. Whad'ya say bud, pretty please???

Jobby jobby jobby!
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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Wow, I'm still trying to figure out what happened. When I made my last post, I had just received a contract for a job offer that fit ALL of my Genius Models perfectly...in every aspect. It was the craziest thing--it fit them perfectly! Salary, benefits, training, expenses, travel, tuition reimbursements, EVERYTHING I had made a model for was in there exactly as I had modeled it. Even the interviews and applications leading up to the offer were matched perfectly.

And now, nothing. I would say I've been inexplicably, extraordinarily, elaborately scammed....but this makes zero sense, given the details leading up to the alleged "scam offer contract" not to mention the contract itself. The only end-game for this scam would be stealing my identity...which they could accomplish easily with the information I provided during the initial application...why go through all the other steps and trouble of writing up a bogus contract?? Very, Very, Very: Odd.

This result is just as, if not moreso incredible as the 'coincidences' uncovered during the whole process, as it matched my Genius so perfectly.

Moreover, I cannot begin to imagine why my subconscious (Genius) would have played things out like this. I mean, what a sadistic joker my innerworkings must be!!! Seriously though, I want to know where I went wrong for my Genius to have gone so horribly 'right'...only to be 'not right'.

Anyway, I'll keep posting my [insanity] updates for posterity.

And Chaol, if you're out there (or perhaps behind this!!), I could use a bone. Whad'ya say bud, pretty please???

Jobby jobby jobby!
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Wow! What exactly happened to make you think it's a bogus offer?

I know how you feel though. I can't figure out why my subconscious got me here just in time for Chaol to leave!!!! And the website to go down, etc:.

I remember earlier posts of people not having the results they thought they would have with a Genius. We just don't know what we are doing yet.

I'd say you have most of the elements figured out though. You've done well. I'm sure sorry this happened, though. To have it all right there and then...boom!

Btw, I'd love to hear of some of the "coincidences" if you feel like talking about it. Although this didn't turn out right, you have experienced a lot.


I'm thinking we should write a group Genius and get Chaol back here!!!!!! (Dang it!) I told him I was going to do a mental symbol to get him back and his response....."You have no idea." I take that to mean we have more power than we realize, heh!

Anyway, thanks so much for the update. I've sure been wondering about you and just thought you were so busy with your new job, you didn't have time for us yet!

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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Aha! Well, it looked good to me. Btw, what was the strobe you tried to link there?

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law of least energy

maybe it is just the most relative way for all your goals to be represented so far, but will change if your resolve doesn't falter.

The universe gives what your highest self wants at every moment, you are always getting exactly what you want.

;)
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Just found this....Ec Dictionary online:

[link to sites.google.com (secure)]
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Aha! Well, it looked good to me. Btw, what was the strobe you tried to link there?
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I was trying to link a strobe app that would function like the mirror of chaos.
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law of least energy

maybe it is just the most relative way for all your goals to be represented so far, but will change if your resolve doesn't falter.

The universe gives what your highest self wants at every moment, you are always getting exactly what you want.

;)
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Want infers a lack of...
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law of least energy

maybe it is just the most relative way for all your goals to be represented so far, but will change if your resolve doesn't falter.

The universe gives what your highest self wants at every moment, you are always getting exactly what you want.

;)
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Want infers a lack of...
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True, in a sense any desire implies a separation, a lack of contentment, a need to search. However I think you can be without lack and still have a preference for what you perceive in your experience.

For me: learning, growth, adventure, joy, love,

But maybe there is just no one really there to want anything.
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But maybe there is just no one really there to want anything.
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Words of wisdom!

In deep contemplation, I reached a place where I consciously realized that "I" am everything and that when one is everything, there is no self. In that mode of comprehension, the "I" is irrelevant.
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"555days since
Chaol's 2 Year Anniversary"
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I started building the site but it was a flop. I abandoned it.

Not-Chaol.
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Aha! Well, it looked good to me. Btw, what was the strobe you tried to link there?
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I was trying to link a strobe app that would function like the mirror of chaos.
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This was before we talked about strobes here!!!!! How about posting the link here, instead?
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I still don't understand how there is no one here, yet we are learning how to use a Genius for perceptions of our choice.

I don't understand how each of us would say, "Yes, I am alive, I am conscious"......and yet we know it's all programmable.

I've seen All That Is as a puzzle I put together with Ec strings. In this experience, I understood these puzzle pieces are what I call gods.

I don't understand how I know I am creating past and future right now....yet a bridge is closing and won't be available for another 30 years!

I don't understand how I keep perceiving a "spiritual" leader who keeps disappearing.

I don't understand why I'm told things and have experienced things....that indicate a future experience, that doesn't happen....yet sometimes, they do happen!

I don't understand why I've had many different, amazing, confirming coincidences over the years......but now they aren't making sense in context with my life now.

I understand I receive a data stream and interpret it and that's about it.
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I still don't understand how there is no one here, yet we are learning how to use a Genius for perceptions of our choice.

I don't understand how each of us would say, "Yes, I am alive, I am conscious"......and yet we know it's all programmable.
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Everything is as alive as are you. A cell phone is also conscious and can learn to program itself. The floor is alive and can learn to perceive itself differently.

I've seen All That Is as a puzzle I put together with Ec strings. In this experience, I understood these puzzle pieces are what I call gods.
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I like this. It is an interesting insight, particularly when one considers that the "gods" are an abbreviation for a process. Instead of describing the intricate details of a torus or a door that can take you to another world, one can just say "Sekhmet". Instead of getting all involved with the metaphysical meaning of "destroyer", one can just speak the word "Kali", and everybody will understand what you're talking about.

I don't understand how I know I am creating past and future right now....yet a bridge is closing and won't be available for another 30 years!
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But, 30 years only seems like it is far away...as if it is "way over there". You can travel there in an instant. It is already present in your environment. Just find a representation for "30 years away" and bring it into your current perception.

Past and future are all here, right now. Wherever you are located, is where all time is at.

I don't understand how I keep perceiving a "spiritual" leader who keeps disappearing.
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Are you talking about Chaol? He is all over the place! To say that he has "disappeared" only means that you're not "seeing" him! He's everywhere!

Ask a question and watch how it gets answered. Do you really think that Chaol is, like, "out there" somewhere?

He even logs onto this website from time to time, just to let you know IRL that he is still around. He doesn't have to do that, you know. He does it for us.

I don't understand why I'm told things and have experienced things....that indicate a future experience, that doesn't happen....yet sometimes, they do happen!

I don't understand why I've had many different, amazing, confirming coincidences over the years......but now they aren't making sense in context with my life now.
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You're not stagnant. Relationships are constantly changing. It is a kaleidiscope.

Release expectations. Declare what you want and then hold onto the rail so that you don't fall off the roller coaster. Enjoy the ride!

Or else, declare what you want and see that it is already there.

I understand I receive a data stream and interpret it and that's about it.
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Yep! Information processing! Do you know yourself yet? lolololol!!!!!

(I laugh, because you are everything and you are Nothing at the same time. You can never perceive yourself directly!)
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03/12/2013 02:07 PM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Has this been found / mentioned before?

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Marshwiggle

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03/12/2013 04:23 PM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
I'm having fun relating to my devices - laptop, a dvd and my mobile, so far!

Things starting working that weren't. Things that 'shouldn't' work do. Making friends, not slaves, or enemies.
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03/12/2013 05:43 PM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
I do believe all is alive.....but what is it that's alive? The symbols? And who does the programming? And if I can program everyone out of or into my life, how are "others" real?


Chaol hasn't logged in here for 29 days and I don't think he does it for us....I think he checks the conditions before he leaves.

Chaol is the one that said once the bridge closes, it will be 30 years before it opens. But I like what you said,

"But, 30 years only seems like it is far away...as if it is "way over there". You can travel there in an instant. It is already present in your environment. Just find a representation for "30 years away" and bring it into your current perception.

Past and future are all here, right now. Wherever you are located, is where all time is at."



And no, I don't know myself yet, LOL! Thanks AC6853315 hf

One other thing I don't understand....why is my internet life and dreaming life SO MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 03/12/2013 06:52 PM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Has this been found / mentioned before?

[link to web.archive.org]
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Wow! I haven't seen it before. It looks like an older website and just from scanning it quickly, it looks like some new information to me.

I did read in a post recently where Chaol said he would be introducing deeper concepts as he went forward...and I think that post was dated around 2009.
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I'm having fun relating to my devices - laptop, a dvd and my mobile, so far!

Things starting working that weren't. Things that 'shouldn't' work do. Making friends, not slaves, or enemies.
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I brought home a new smartphone and the sounds on my computer changed......and immediately started sounding the same as the smartphone! I guess my computer loves my smartphone, LOL!
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Has this been found / mentioned before?

[link to web.archive.org]
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow




Wow! I haven't seen it before. It looks like an older website and just from scanning it quickly, it looks like some new information to me.

I did read in a post recently where Chaol said he would be introducing deeper concepts as he went forward...and I think that post was dated around 2009.
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From the link:

"We propose that humans are born with a "percpetion instinct." It is this instinct that enables our minds us to filter out more than 99% of the information reaching us. We do this automatically, without conscious thought of how we do it. Using Ecsys is like doing a quick calculation, bringing into conscious awareness what we do instinctively. Imagine being able to perceive and understand a little more of what your mind filters out."


I have caught myself editing what I see!


Also,

"The basic premise of Ecsys is that everything that exists (every thing, place, process, idea, etc.) is one of four elements. They are:

Measurement & Structure
Potential Energy
Interaction & Association
Representation


In the basic Ecsys model each of the 4 elements has a name and symbol, as well as a primary numerical value.

Measurement and Structure

definitions, rules, guidelines, hierarchy, structure, reasoning, framework, linear order, particles.

This particular element also represents unstructuring. (As the act of providing a framework to some gives freedom to others.) Measuring by itself thus actually creates two forces that, together, can counteract other forces.

Potential Energy
trust, emotions, fuel or energy, capital, incentives, or anything used for its capacity or space

Interaction and Association
conversation, sitting, playing, being in a relationship, competing, walking, chaos, waves, gravity, consciousness

Representation
names, symbols, dates, photos, models, souvenirs and keepsakes, portfolio assets, people, matter, perception



So....I'm one of 4 elements????????

Last Edited by ERE3 on 03/12/2013 06:24 PM
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U3

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03/12/2013 06:26 PM
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
XWon.....I found something for you (from the old website...thanks OTR):



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"Should You Get Stuck

There are methods we can use to evolve a model or parts of a model. This is most useful if we are 'stuck' trying to think of what to do next. Following is such a method. It is not necessary to follow the same path as laid out below. You can "jump in" anywhere you are having difficulty.





If you have 1 element only, use #...
As Used in Example: X
Ion to evolve the structure and measurement...
2 Axon to change Ion

rules and guidelines evolved via Internet
3 Chaon to repel Ion

hold weekly web conference regarding X
5 Elementon to solidify Ion

create a web app based on rules and guidelines, and for metrics
Axon to evolve the potential energy...
3 Chaon to express Axon

allow others to interact via web app
5 Elementon to increase Axon

create dynamic avatars in web app for users which represent X
1 Ion to focus Axon

create new rules for web app and users using app.
Chaon to evolve the interactions and associations...
5 Elementon to capture Chaon

evolve representations to include personal media such as videos and photos
1 Ion to attract Chaon

create rules and structure to limit network interaction in X community
2 Axon to expand Chaon

Network effects could expand to any IP-enabled device such as mobile phone
Elementon to evolve the representation...
1 Ion to clarify Elementon

develop rules and guidelines for X. How can it be measured?
2 Axon to enable Elementon

provide PE to rules and guidelines. Put them on the Internet.
3 Chaon to grow Elementon

allow others to add and respond to rules
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