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# Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

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Observing Itself with what?

Quoting: U3

The question does not compute. Its like asking fill in the blank:

The shape of the space within the box is shaped by _______.

Observation is executed by the ______.

Quoting: MutantMessiah

Are you saying the observer is separate from the box and the space in the box?

I say the space and the box are the observer. I just don't get it, though.
Quoting: U3

They're not separate but they're technically not the same either. They're two representations of the same thing and what is observed is the two interacting.

The observer would be the recognition of the space and the box and not actually the box or the space. Ya know? Independent yet dependent. The text on your screen is meaningless without your ability to read. You (personally) are the ability of this perspective to read.

What we are, is that which observes.

If you want to test this, take your hands off the wheel (figuratively) behave as you spontaneously want to behave and observe your perspective. Pay attention to your perspective and see it in the third person.

This is incredibly fun in conversation, seeing it from an "objective" perspective where your spontaneous behavior yields a high possibility for very desirable or very undesirable experiences.

When we "dream" it's even more noticeable.

Next you'll ask again, I know, I know but "HOW" do we come to observe?

S=L(p^2-p)+I

Quoting: MutantMessiah

Wow! OK, I'll do just that.

And your Ec string......tha bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've got to study it.
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That's not mine, it's Chaol's ecsys prime or whateva.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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That's not mine, it's Chaol's ecsys prime or whateva.
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Ohhhh, well, thanks for posting it. Somehow, I missed it!
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Jumping back into this thread. I was participating last year, but then GLP banned my IP address for a long time and I gave up trying to get back on to the site. I realized a few weeks ago I can access it again, so I have been trying to catch up with the Chaol threads & posts that I missed in my long absence. And, I am now know longer an anonymous coward.

About a year ago I was playing along at home and created a representation. Without getting into detail, let's just say, it represented me seeing someone who lives far away from me, someone I haven't seen in a very long time. I didn't specify how that would happen, just that it would.

The last time I posted on this thread, in May, I related that "step one" had happened. I don't want to get into detail about what that step was. I'll just say it was a logical requirement for the final goal.

Around the same time a possible opportunity at work fell into my lap - involving a trip to the place where this person happens to live!

It was all pretty freaky, how it happened. The chances were zero that I'd be asked to travel to this place on business, and then there it was: a new project appeared out of the blue, I was selected to run it (despite all odds), and as part of the project I would be required to travel a few months later, in September, to the place where this person happened to live!! I did absolutely nothing to maneuver my way into this situation at work. I simply said yes when asked if I would take on the project that was offered to me, out of the blue.

You can imagine how excited I was about this. But then, it all ......... unraveled. Step one unraveled itself first. Then I watched as the possibility for the trip went from 99% certain to 70% to 50% to 10% to 0%. What's more, the person I wanted to see? Moved! So even if the trip had materialized as a certainty, I would not have seen the person I wanted to see.

So I have been grumpy and cynical about all of this. Maybe it doesn't work after all? Or maybe I'm doing something wrong. I don't know. But, I decided to try again, so I've made a new representation.

The other weirdness is that some of the dates Chaol mentioned, in July '12 and September '12 (I forget at moment the exact dates he mentioned) align perfectly with critical events that were going on in my own personal life; the July date corresponded with the exact date step one unraveled for me. The September dates align with something else that happened, that I don't want to say. Call it a personal family crisis. So I keep wondering about that. Maybe I'm over-personalizing too much, but that is such a coincidence for me.
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Jumping back into this thread. I was participating last year, but then GLP banned my IP address for a long time and I gave up trying to get back on to the site. I realized a few weeks ago I can access it again, so I have been trying to catch up with the Chaol threads & posts that I missed in my long absence. And, I am now know longer an anonymous coward.

About a year ago I was playing along at home and created a representation. Without getting into detail, let's just say, it represented me seeing someone who lives far away from me, someone I haven't seen in a very long time. I didn't specify how that would happen, just that it would.

The last time I posted on this thread, in May, I related that "step one" had happened. I don't want to get into detail about what that step was. I'll just say it was a logical requirement for the final goal.

Around the same time a possible opportunity at work fell into my lap - involving a trip to the place where this person happens to live!

It was all pretty freaky, how it happened. The chances were zero that I'd be asked to travel to this place on business, and then there it was: a new project appeared out of the blue, I was selected to run it (despite all odds), and as part of the project I would be required to travel a few months later, in September, to the place where this person happened to live!! I did absolutely nothing to maneuver my way into this situation at work. I simply said yes when asked if I would take on the project that was offered to me, out of the blue.

You can imagine how excited I was about this. But then, it all ......... unraveled. Step one unraveled itself first. Then I watched as the possibility for the trip went from 99% certain to 70% to 50% to 10% to 0%. What's more, the person I wanted to see? Moved! So even if the trip had materialized as a certainty, I would not have seen the person I wanted to see.

So I have been grumpy and cynical about all of this. Maybe it doesn't work after all? Or maybe I'm doing something wrong. I don't know. But, I decided to try again, so I've made a new representation.

The other weirdness is that some of the dates Chaol mentioned, in July '12 and September '12 (I forget at moment the exact dates he mentioned) align perfectly with critical events that were going on in my own personal life; the July date corresponded with the exact date step one unraveled for me. The September dates align with something else that happened, that I don't want to say. Call it a personal family crisis. So I keep wondering about that. Maybe I'm over-personalizing too much, but that is such a coincidence for me.
Quoting: VersionTwo

Welcome back and thanks for posting.

You're not the only one that has had a Genius produce opposite results.

After mine did that, I quit for a while and just read the threads. Then, finally, I decided that even opposite results are an indication it's working. Not the way I want it to work, but a sign something is happening.

So, I finally made another Genius. It seems to be working but I'm not finished yet, so we will see. There is more to it than making a Genius and working the rules, though. Chaol says if we aren't thinking new thoughts, doing different things, no Genius or Ec string will work.

It's not too surprising that your July and September dates coincided with Chaol's travel dates. He always plans his travels around nexus points. So, those dates had energy in them for things to happen, which, as you indicated, they happened for you.

Sorry the results aren't what you want. I'd say hang in there, read the threads and pick up all you can. Chaol will be back and can answer questions. Unfortunately, none of us thought to ask when he will be back, so it's wait and see right now.
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Just thinking out loud, feel free to chime in, heh! I'm contemplating this. The possibility equation has me mystified.

ECSYS PRIME
S=L(p^2-p)+I

Symbol = logic (possibility squared minus possibility) plus interaction

The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime.

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.*

2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.

3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity

5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

*Creating a new symbol is best. (Not using one that already has its own meanings behind it.)

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/14/2013 05:59 PM
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HI chaol and all!
why you change your locations so rapidly? in the interval of just a few minutes you change your country form thailand to japan or whatever. i recall you said once you were using proxies. but what is the usefulness of that?
just wondering that
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HI chaol and all!
why you change your locations so rapidly? in the interval of just a few minutes you change your country form thailand to japan or whatever. i recall you said once you were using proxies. but what is the usefulness of that?
just wondering that
Quoting: Ritalin 37975341

Hi!
Chaol is not here right now so I'll answer my understanding of your question. I believe his ip has gone nuts because of all the traveling he has done. So, whatever country shows up when he posts is not accurate.
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HI chaol and all!
why you change your locations so rapidly? in the interval of just a few minutes you change your country form thailand to japan or whatever. i recall you said once you were using proxies. but what is the usefulness of that?
just wondering that
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Hi!
Chaol is not here right now so I'll answer my understanding of your question. I believe his ip has gone nuts because of all the traveling he has done. So, whatever country shows up when he posts is not accurate.
Quoting: U3

thank you U3 for the answer, i didn't know chaol wasn't here -i hope just for a while. i've reach to read just about page 190...has he commented anything else on that matter? can an IP go nuts? i've never seen that in any other thread on the internet...i guess he's not ubiquitous...;)
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HI chaol and all!
why you change your locations so rapidly? in the interval of just a few minutes you change your country form thailand to japan or whatever. i recall you said once you were using proxies. but what is the usefulness of that?
just wondering that
Quoting: Ritalin 37975341

Hi!
Chaol is not here right now so I'll answer my understanding of your question. I believe his ip has gone nuts because of all the traveling he has done. So, whatever country shows up when he posts is not accurate.
Quoting: U3

thank you U3 for the answer, i didn't know chaol wasn't here -i hope just for a while. i've reach to read just about page 190...has he commented anything else on that matter? can an IP go nuts? i've never seen that in any other thread on the internet...i guess he's not ubiquitous...;)
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YW. I hope he's only gone for a short while too. Unfortunately, before he left this time, none of us thought to ask when he would be back. :o(

What matter? If you're on page 190, you still have a ways to go just in this thread, much less his other theads.

I was told by someone (don't remember who) about Chaol's ip. Chaol has traveled around this world a lot so there may not be anyone else to compare it to.
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Thanks U3, i get back to my 190 page....maybe when chaol is back i`ve managed to read the whole thread(s) :)
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Thanks U3, i get back to my 190 page....maybe when chaol is back i`ve managed to read the whole thread(s) :)
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A note of appreciation to Chaol.

The U.S. and China have agreed to use diplomacy in "denuclearizing" one of China's allies. This is a big deal.

This world has a pope who exhibits both humility and compassion as an example to his followers. This is a fresh geometry in our perspectives.

The dragons are leaving: they're dying or they're near death; they're stepping down from their thrones.

Fewer and fewer swindlers are able to hide their dirty deeds. The population has finally decided to speak up and expose what needs exposing. They're finally saying, "no more".

The world is changing drastically before our very eyes. I am in awe.

Now, I see the handiwork of Chaol's "chess-not-checkers". We owe him a lot.

Thanks, friend.
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To Chaol
(Nice post, AC)

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/14/2013 11:30 AM
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Just thinking out loud, feel free to chime in, heh! I'm contemplating this. The possibility equation has me mystified.

ECSYS PRIME
S=L(p^2-p)+I

Symbol = logic (possibility squared minus possibility) plus interaction

The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime.

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.*

2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.

3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity

5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

*Creating a new symbol is best. (Not using one that already has its own meanings behind it.)
Quoting: U3

I stand corrected. S=L(p^2-p)+I is:

symbol = logic (possibility squared minus possibility) plus interaction.

I don't get why the 2 is in there, though. If it's possiblity squared wouldn't that be just, p^?

And, after we figure that out, what is Chaol trying to point out with possiblity squared minus possibility?

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^2 means to the power of 2
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^2 means to the power of 2
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Jumping back into this thread. I was participating last year, but then GLP banned my IP address for a long time and I gave up trying to get back on to the site. I realized a few weeks ago I can access it again, so I have been trying to catch up with the Chaol threads & posts that I missed in my long absence. And, I am now know longer an anonymous coward.

About a year ago I was playing along at home and created a representation. Without getting into detail, let's just say, it represented me seeing someone who lives far away from me, someone I haven't seen in a very long time. I didn't specify how that would happen, just that it would.

The last time I posted on this thread, in May, I related that "step one" had happened. I don't want to get into detail about what that step was. I'll just say it was a logical requirement for the final goal.

Around the same time a possible opportunity at work fell into my lap - involving a trip to the place where this person happens to live!

It was all pretty freaky, how it happened. The chances were zero that I'd be asked to travel to this place on business, and then there it was: a new project appeared out of the blue, I was selected to run it (despite all odds), and as part of the project I would be required to travel a few months later, in September, to the place where this person happened to live!! I did absolutely nothing to maneuver my way into this situation at work. I simply said yes when asked if I would take on the project that was offered to me, out of the blue.

You can imagine how excited I was about this. But then, it all ......... unraveled. Step one unraveled itself first. Then I watched as the possibility for the trip went from 99% certain to 70% to 50% to 10% to 0%. What's more, the person I wanted to see? Moved! So even if the trip had materialized as a certainty, I would not have seen the person I wanted to see.

So I have been grumpy and cynical about all of this. Maybe it doesn't work after all? Or maybe I'm doing something wrong. I don't know. But, I decided to try again, so I've made a new representation.

The other weirdness is that some of the dates Chaol mentioned, in July '12 and September '12 (I forget at moment the exact dates he mentioned) align perfectly with critical events that were going on in my own personal life; the July date corresponded with the exact date step one unraveled for me. The September dates align with something else that happened, that I don't want to say. Call it a personal family crisis. So I keep wondering about that. Maybe I'm over-personalizing too much, but that is such a coincidence for me.
Quoting: VersionTwo

Really interesting, this. Thanks. It made me think of U3 straight away. This is so much further on from 'nothing' happening, so I see success there, although not in the way you wanted.
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Anyone remember that Chaol said something about times when gold would be astronomically high priced? Maybe it's time to buy then, because it's been dropping these days.
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Anyone remember that Chaol said something about times when gold would be astronomically high priced? Maybe it's time to buy then, because it's been dropping these days.
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Gold, silver and the Dow are down right now. Do you hpapen to remember what Chaol was referring to when he mentioned astronimcal gold prices?

Hasn't he always said the Canary Islands are a marker? Or was that just something for that particular year when he said it?

This looks interesting, Thread: Breaking! Protons are 4% SMALLER!!!! REALITY IS SHIFTING.

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Anyone remember that Chaol said something about times when gold would be astronomically high priced? Maybe it's time to buy then, because it's been dropping these days.
Quoting: tuuuuur

Gold, silver and the Dow are down right now. Do you hpapen to remember what Chaol was referring to when he mentioned astronimcal gold prices?

Hasn't he always said the Canary Islands are a marker? Or was that just something for that particular year when he said it?

This looks interesting, Thread: Breaking! Protons are 4% SMALLER!!!! REALITY IS SHIFTING.
Quoting: U3

In my opinion he made a point that the canary island thing was a major marker.
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Thanks Tuuuuuur.

Anyone else struggling with "bad" things in your perspective? Since I saw some of the footage from the Boston Marathon, did I create suffering for someone?
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Chaol, a question:

I understand the concept of energy conservation in the sense that we will perceive that which takes the least amount of energy, and I read you stating that something we desire to perceive might be expressed in an other way from the particular form that we 'want' to perceive [whatever thing] we intend with, say, a Genius Model--such that, for example my new job might be expressed in an entirely different way than how I would normally perceive (or intend) for that new job to be expressed and perceived in my current perspective.

This leads me to think that we are at the mercy, so to speak, of this 'Law of Energy Conservation' and that we are as likely not to get the desired perspective (thing) as we are to get it despite our best efforts via Genius Model Creation.

How can we best accomplish a desired (as we see it in our conscious mind's eye) perspective in lieu of this? Or perhaps a better way to state this is how can we position ourselves to perceive exactly what we envision?

Scenario: Say that my new job has already been delivered to my perspective (and I know that it's there/here now, but not the way I want or recognize) in the form of some other thing...am I just spinning my wheels by continuing with the current Genius Models, or do I need to keep adding new Models until I perceive that my initial, desired intent has been satisfied?

Quoting: X Won 1407931

Let's say that the Genius brings you closer to what you want but not in the way that you want it 'yet'.

You may think that if you wanted a box of cookies and you got a picture of a box of cookies, instead, that the Genius is not working for you and you are at the mercy of the most efficient cookie concept.

The picture of the cookie is a feature of the map and is not intended as the final destination. You are not at the mercy of this because it is you who is making it relative.

It is bringing you closer to your desired perspective by illustrating the path to the perspective in real time.

Some of us give up at the picture of the cookie and try to eat it, to no avail.

But as a real-time perspective map (journey) it works fine.

You can use the old model once you get the photocookie but really it won't be as effective as making a new model with the 'new' value of the photocookie in mind.

(That is to say, the new model you create is influenced by the result of the old model... thus illustrating the path.)

I would recommend making as many sequential models as you can for a particular desired perspective until it becomes second nature. Until it becomes a mental process.

But one model per desired perspective until you see the desired perspective symbolized in your current perspective. So it's like turning the map around to get your bearings as you continue a long the path.
Quoting: Chaol

Instructions for follow-up Genius maps. We're supposed to keep doing them until it's a mental process.
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From this, the world will find out that the anti-establishment and the establishment are one and the same. The virus and the antidote to divide and conquer.*

When we find out where he is born, to whom, why he is in Hawaii (and what is in Hawaii; and what a car accident has to do with his personality), Indonesia with Sukarno, and several other countries (and why his mother is living in several countries, why she is married to a general in Suharto's army, what languages she speaks and why, whom she works for, and why), who supports him financially as he is growing up, and why, and what he is doing now, and why.

To promote one entertaining story to obscure an other, far more interesting, one is the name of the game. There are no grand conspiracies other than the nature of physicality to hide something that cannot be physically-represented. But the thought of a human conspiracy certainly keeps one from thinking about the nature of reality.

The actors and the stage begin to be revealed in their entirety in this unveiling. A story thousands of years in the making (and telling), encompassing pretty much everything you can read (or can't) in your history books.

What is your world composed of when what you knew so well becomes a mystery?

Truth is, indeed, stranger than fiction.

Then you see what you have been doing all along, and the reality that you create for yourself.

Everything exists now. (There is no past, present, or future, that you can experience save for your perspective.)

Obviously, what you perceive is illusion.

This illusion has a narrative.

In 2012, you see the narrative for what it is.

And this particular illusion breaks down.

The end of the world, indeed. (The end of this particular physical illusion, and the start of an other.)

*As I previously mentioned, this division is what creates physicality. The tension between 'good' and 'evil' is as old as time because it is what creates time.
Quoting: Chaol

I have been feeling uneasy all day today. So, I wanted to find Chaol's markers. He says when we see the narrative for what it is, it's the end of the pysical illusion.

On the front page of the forum, they are already showing discrepancies to the Boston Marathon reports. I can't read that stuff so I don't know how accurate it is but the point is what Chaol says above:

"Then you see what you have been doing all along, and the reality that you create for yourself."

He also says:

"There are no grand conspiracies other than the nature of physicality to hide something that cannot be physically-represented."

I can only assume he means we hide something from ourselves. Is that what any of you get?

Also of note, the last statement, which I put in bold, above, is where he says "the tension between good and evil creates time." (I remember AC15 asked me to make a note of it if I find it again! So, here you go.)
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2012 is when the lights come on, and the actors begin to be exposed for what they are.

It starts with [...snips]
Quoting: Chaol

The weakest link in the chain is also one of the biggest .

What better way to bring the whole thing down?

Some of us, of course, like it just the way it is.
Quoting: Chaol

Chaol,

Will you still be discussing the Genius and Ecsys or will you be focusing on Bari?
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Never has the 'big picture' not been discussed, except in response to an other's query.

If it is thought that there is focus on some other detail that is not entirely significant, perhaps the point is missed.

This "missing the mark" is important enough to warrant an entire catalogue in the realm of the psyche with the classical definition of "sin".

Someone of us unfortunately will, indeed, find ourselves in a type of "hell" for missing the point regardless of how important we think these unimportant (that is to say, lacking significant interaction with other things) details are.

I'm reminded of how much energy is wasted (perhaps billions, in terms of your hours) thinking about "republican" or "democrat" when in the big picture, if there ever was one, such distinctions are not only irrelevant they do not exist.

We are certainly welcome to waste this energy but it does not mean that we will experience something different from what our previous wastefulness has resulted in, for lack of better terms.

However, here it is amusing that some of us are uncomfortable without more detail in these posts while some others are uncomfortable with more detail.

(Surely, though, we do not know what lay beyond the borders of our experience. Do you think it is something we expect or something entirely unexpected? If unexpected, would we be willing to accept it or even be willing to incorporate it within our current experience? I haven't even begun to say anything about what fantastic things lay just beyond the ~current perspective because, really, it would be unacceptable to most. Many of us fluctuate between discreet feelings of fear and curiosity. How many of us are willing to give up what we seemingly have spent so much time in building? Very few. And that is why you find yourselves here, at what is essentially the end of the road before your previous steps vanish into nothingness, talking to me in hopes that you can continue walking along the same path. I'm relaying to you the 'fact' that the rhythm of the footsteps you're making will not carry over into what your reality is becoming. The mechanisms by which you think and do is what is imperative here when many of us are, instead, focused on the mark of the footsteps and what kind of shoes we're wearing, and how the knot is tied.)

There is little hope that anything significant will be done in the way of altering one's current path of experience while suffering the effects of a passive lethargy.

Whether we do or do not do, we will always be occupied with something. (It is the nature of reality.) But that does not make it relevant or meaningful.

We can spend our lives massaging the legs of members of our local ant colony and make a life of it, with drive and purpose that we ourselves invent, and argue with others about the finer points of lavender oil as compared with burgundy when applied to the exoskeleton if we so wanted.

But it does not mean that our actions and thoughts will be much-related to much else, or interact with the depth of our perspective.

Basically, I am saying that 99% of your thoughts are irrelevant to the expanded perspective. They are 99% relevant to a very, very small sliver of a perspective that has very little interaction with deeper perspectives. Apologies for being blunt (perhaps still confusing to some of us) but it is what is needed at this point.

(How many of us would drift off into tangents at this point is both expected and predictable. It is entirely what I am conveying here.)

It is only when we see what we haven't seen that our perspective is changed.
Quoting: Chaol

Good one to re-read. I keep trying to see things differently but I have to really work at it.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
The actors are beginning to be realized (as I mentioned a year ago as a theme for 2012) and the idea that "all the world's a stage" but we must realize the game-within-the-game.

The actors want you to know they're acting.
Quoting: Chaol

Some way I've missed what all this means. I don't suppose you can direct me to where you mentioned this theme for 2012?

I've only been here a couple of months.
Quoting: Unit3

Here: Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 74)
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"We must realize the game within the game."
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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