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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Your perception of this current paradigm and mine may differ. So, I can't answer you.

What problem do you see with this paradigm?
 Quoting: U3


To the 7 billion or so humans that exist in this paradigm and countless creatures who's quality of existence decreases is a problem. To me decrease is a problem in any form.
 Quoting: M1.618




Isn't the decrease you see within your perspective? Something you have decided to see?

You have only your perspective. You can't look at something and say that exists outside of my perspective.
 Quoting: U3


The collective baseline of those around one form the reality outside of ones personal perspective, a part of ones true reality, unless the observer is delusional. When I hear cries of hunger and despair or decrease… I understand (in my true reality this does not matter, much) as it will end with in time and all will be made right. Yet, in their reality it does matter in this moment in time… to them this is decrease... and most would see it this way, as reality in part is a product of the collective baseline of the world around one, if one is not delusional.
 Quoting: M1.618




Well, I have to disagree. No one but myself forms my perspective.

Otherwise, how is it my perspective changes when I change inside myself? I've tested this over and over. What's outside is what's inside.
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To the 7 billion or so humans that exist in this paradigm and countless creatures who's quality of existence decreases is a problem. To me decrease is a problem in any form.
 Quoting: M1.618




Isn't the decrease you see within your perspective? Something you have decided to see?

You have only your perspective. You can't look at something and say that exists outside of my perspective.
 Quoting: U3


The collective baseline of those around one form the reality outside of ones personal perspective, a part of ones true reality, unless the observer is delusional. When I hear cries of hunger and despair or decrease… I understand (in my true reality this does not matter, much) as it will end with in time and all will be made right. Yet, in their reality it does matter in this moment in time… to them this is decrease... and most would see it this way, as reality in part is a product of the collective baseline of the world around one, if one is not delusional.
 Quoting: M1.618




Well, I have to disagree. No one but myself forms my perspective.

Otherwise, how is it my perspective changes when I change inside myself? I've tested this over and over. What's outside is what's inside.
 Quoting: U3


Are the changes not a product of data beheld by You from internal and external sources?
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Maybe an agreement could be considered if we are able to clearly define the terms "internal", "external" and "delusional". It's my personal understanding that even that which "appears" to be external is merely an representation of something less relative than what I consider "internal".

I am totally delusional.

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Maybe an agreement could be considered if we are able to clearly define the terms "internal", "external" and "delusional". It's my personal understanding that even that which "appears" to be external is merely an representation of something less relative than what I consider "internal".

I am totally delusional.

5a
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If we consider the baselines of common reality using this as the "language" or point of reference, we can communicate to most that do as well. In this light I do not consider your statement delusional… rather one of logic.
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Isn't the decrease you see within your perspective? Something you have decided to see?

You have only your perspective. You can't look at something and say that exists outside of my perspective.
 Quoting: U3


The collective baseline of those around one form the reality outside of ones personal perspective, a part of ones true reality, unless the observer is delusional. When I hear cries of hunger and despair or decrease… I understand (in my true reality this does not matter, much) as it will end with in time and all will be made right. Yet, in their reality it does matter in this moment in time… to them this is decrease... and most would see it this way, as reality in part is a product of the collective baseline of the world around one, if one is not delusional.
 Quoting: M1.618




Well, I have to disagree. No one but myself forms my perspective.

Otherwise, how is it my perspective changes when I change inside myself? I've tested this over and over. What's outside is what's inside.
 Quoting: U3


Are the changes not a product of data beheld by You from internal and external sources?
 Quoting: M1.618






Yes, the data is beheld by me and interpeted by me.
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Maybe an agreement could be considered if we are able to clearly define the terms "internal", "external" and "delusional". It's my personal understanding that even that which "appears" to be external is merely an representation of something less relative than what I consider "internal".

I am totally delusional.

5a
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It's not a bad way to go! lol
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The collective baseline of those around one form the reality outside of ones personal perspective, a part of ones true reality, unless the observer is delusional. When I hear cries of hunger and despair or decrease… I understand (in my true reality this does not matter, much) as it will end with in time and all will be made right. Yet, in their reality it does matter in this moment in time… to them this is decrease... and most would see it this way, as reality in part is a product of the collective baseline of the world around one, if one is not delusional.
 Quoting: M1.618




Well, I have to disagree. No one but myself forms my perspective.

Otherwise, how is it my perspective changes when I change inside myself? I've tested this over and over. What's outside is what's inside.
 Quoting: U3


Are the changes not a product of data beheld by You from internal and external sources?
 Quoting: M1.618






Yes, the data is beheld by me and interpeted by me.
 Quoting: U3


Then we agree) in some part. Let agreement grow in truth... for us All
Peace & Love to you)
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Well, I have to disagree. No one but myself forms my perspective.

Otherwise, how is it my perspective changes when I change inside myself? I've tested this over and over. What's outside is what's inside.
 Quoting: U3


Are the changes not a product of data beheld by You from internal and external sources?
 Quoting: M1.618






Yes, the data is beheld by me and interpeted by me.
 Quoting: U3


Then we agree) in some part. Let agreement grow in truth... for us All
Peace & Love to you)
 Quoting: M1.618




hf
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Sup homies?

Careful believing any one idea, all truths are but half truths

yes you create your reality, but you are not God, just as it would be silly for a cell in your foot to say it is the totality of you. We are nodes in a system, we are here to co create and here to make relationships. The subconscious that is connected to all other conscious beings does indeed enforce a type of reality system that imposes limitations. Peoples thoughts and day dreams are like little ballots. Every person is casting a vote for what they want to manifest and the group consciousness imposes this. When we understand this we can see that controlling our reality is most easy when it is things that doesn't affect the free will of others. I.E. manifesting a new car for yourself hardly affects others, but turning the sky pink would pose a much more difficult challenge.

Try to end up on that middle point of the "X" where above and below converge. As John Lilly puts it:

"High Indifference - beyond dichotomies, beyond compassion, beyond bliss, beyond form, beyond formless, beyond the void, beyond the lack of the void, beyond business, beyond doing, beyond not doing, beyond dreaming, beyond not dreaming, beyond consciousness, beyond not-consciousness, or unconsciousness, into regions he epitomizes by calling them SPACE, in which one experiences an Immense Authority, which is totally impartial, totally objective, totally creative, and yet beyond creation. Creation is contained within the Immense Authority as a small subcompartment"
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Sup homies?

Careful believing any one idea, all truths are but half truths

yes you create your reality, but you are not God, just as it would be silly for a cell in your foot to say it is the totality of you. We are nodes in a system, we are here to co create and here to make relationships. The subconscious that is connected to all other conscious beings does indeed enforce a type of reality system that imposes limitations. Peoples thoughts and day dreams are like little ballots. Every person is casting a vote for what they want to manifest and the group consciousness imposes this. When we understand this we can see that controlling our reality is most easy when it is things that doesn't affect the free will of others. I.E. manifesting a new car for yourself hardly affects others, but turning the sky pink would pose a much more difficult challenge.

Try to end up on that middle point of the "X" where above and below converge. As John Lilly puts it:

"High Indifference - beyond dichotomies, beyond compassion, beyond bliss, beyond form, beyond formless, beyond the void, beyond the lack of the void, beyond business, beyond doing, beyond not doing, beyond dreaming, beyond not dreaming, beyond consciousness, beyond not-consciousness, or unconsciousness, into regions he epitomizes by calling them SPACE, in which one experiences an Immense Authority, which is totally impartial, totally objective, totally creative, and yet beyond creation. Creation is contained within the Immense Authority as a small subcompartment"
 Quoting: Dodec 7618701


Morning Dodec. Are we not there whether we know it or not? Some may be there "consciously" and others diverted by belief may not realize their there causing conflicted intention leading to an experience that justifies the belief?

Thanks for the post. rockon
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Hi Chaol

I am wondering if the "broken window theory" dovetails at all with what you are discussing.

If you are not familiar with it I guess this is the theory in a nutshell:

"Consider a building with a few broken windows. If the windows are not repaired, the tendency is for vandals to break a few more windows. Eventually, they may even break into the building, and if it's unoccupied, perhaps become squatters or light fires inside."

"Or consider a sidewalk. Some litter accumulates. Soon, more litter accumulates. Eventually, people even start leaving bags of trash from take-out restaurants there or breaking into cars."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There are of course "standard" theories to explain this but I am wondering if there is not some sort of "symbolic" manipulation of reality that may be happening as well and would relate to your ideas.

Good to see you back by the way.
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This is similar to something I was thinking about today. I definately have "hotspots" in my house that get cluttered. Always the same places. The same things.

If nothing else, Chaol has helped me lessen my attachment to objects, let the decluttering commence!
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Those hotspots, you could say, are first physical spots then become mapped to the non-physical representations in your brain.

Meaning, your living room layout is becomes a layout in your mind. Not only would the 'physical' layout effect your physicality but its corresponding layout in your mind has an effect on your thoughts, behaviour, etc., at all times.
 Quoting: Chaol




OK, so I hope someone can help me here.

The physical layout of this person's living room (post above), affects this person's mind in a certain way. Is the only way to change the layout in the mind, is to change the physicality? And if so, how is it that what is observed, is what is seen? Iow, I thought the layout of the mind is how physicality is observed!
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Sup homies?

Careful believing any one idea, all truths are but half truths

yes you create your reality, but you are not God, just as it would be silly for a cell in your foot to say it is the totality of you. We are nodes in a system, we are here to co create and here to make relationships. The subconscious that is connected to all other conscious beings does indeed enforce a type of reality system that imposes limitations. Peoples thoughts and day dreams are like little ballots. Every person is casting a vote for what they want to manifest and the group consciousness imposes this. When we understand this we can see that controlling our reality is most easy when it is things that doesn't affect the free will of others. I.E. manifesting a new car for yourself hardly affects others, but turning the sky pink would pose a much more difficult challenge.

Try to end up on that middle point of the "X" where above and below converge. As John Lilly puts it:

"High Indifference - beyond dichotomies, beyond compassion, beyond bliss, beyond form, beyond formless, beyond the void, beyond the lack of the void, beyond business, beyond doing, beyond not doing, beyond dreaming, beyond not dreaming, beyond consciousness, beyond not-consciousness, or unconsciousness, into regions he epitomizes by calling them SPACE, in which one experiences an Immense Authority, which is totally impartial, totally objective, totally creative, and yet beyond creation. Creation is contained within the Immense Authority as a small subcompartment"
 Quoting: Dodec 7618701


Morning Dodec. Are we not there whether we know it or not? Some may be there "consciously" and others diverted by belief may not realize their there causing conflicted intention leading to an experience that justifies the belief?

Thanks for the post. rockon
 Quoting: MutantMessiah




hf
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Hi Chaol

I am wondering if the "broken window theory" dovetails at all with what you are discussing.

If you are not familiar with it I guess this is the theory in a nutshell:

"Consider a building with a few broken windows. If the windows are not repaired, the tendency is for vandals to break a few more windows. Eventually, they may even break into the building, and if it's unoccupied, perhaps become squatters or light fires inside."

"Or consider a sidewalk. Some litter accumulates. Soon, more litter accumulates. Eventually, people even start leaving bags of trash from take-out restaurants there or breaking into cars."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

There are of course "standard" theories to explain this but I am wondering if there is not some sort of "symbolic" manipulation of reality that may be happening as well and would relate to your ideas.

Good to see you back by the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1382064


This is similar to something I was thinking about today. I definately have "hotspots" in my house that get cluttered. Always the same places. The same things.

If nothing else, Chaol has helped me lessen my attachment to objects, let the decluttering commence!
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Those hotspots, you could say, are first physical spots then become mapped to the non-physical representations in your brain.

Meaning, your living room layout is becomes a layout in your mind. Not only would the 'physical' layout effect your physicality but its corresponding layout in your mind has an effect on your thoughts, behaviour, etc., at all times.
 Quoting: Chaol




OK, so I hope someone can help me here.

The physical layout of this person's living room (post above), affects this person's mind in a certain way. Is the only way to change the layout in the mind, is to change the physicality? And if so, how is it that what is observed, is what is seen? Iow, I thought the layout of the mind is how physicality is observed!
 Quoting: U3


He's said a few times that EVERYTHING is represented here now in perspective, that rearranging the physical stuff right there next to you now will change your perspective. It's not that the living room becomes anything, it already is.

Changing the layout of the mind could change the layout of the room and viceversa. It's not the only way, but depending on how relative the living room is, the impact on the "mind" would vary.

Hope that helped.
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This is similar to something I was thinking about today. I definately have "hotspots" in my house that get cluttered. Always the same places. The same things.

If nothing else, Chaol has helped me lessen my attachment to objects, let the decluttering commence!
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Those hotspots, you could say, are first physical spots then become mapped to the non-physical representations in your brain.

Meaning, your living room layout is becomes a layout in your mind. Not only would the 'physical' layout effect your physicality but its corresponding layout in your mind has an effect on your thoughts, behaviour, etc., at all times.
 Quoting: Chaol




OK, so I hope someone can help me here.

The physical layout of this person's living room (post above), affects this person's mind in a certain way. Is the only way to change the layout in the mind, is to change the physicality? And if so, how is it that what is observed, is what is seen? Iow, I thought the layout of the mind is how physicality is observed!
 Quoting: U3


He's said a few times that EVERYTHING is represented here now in perspective, that rearranging the physical stuff right there next to you now will change your perspective. It's not that the living room becomes anything, it already is.

Changing the layout of the mind could change the layout of the room and viceversa. It's not the only way, but depending on how relative the living room is, the impact on the "mind" would vary.

Hope that helped.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah





Yes it does. Thanks. hf

I forget the law of least amount of energy so we perceive what's relative!!!
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Are we in some type of supercomputer, and at the same time we are the programmer. Thus space and time are just calculations, points in strings?
In what type of reality would the programmer be living?
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We're not "in" anything. We simply perceive the field of relationships that comprise our existence.

However, in your analogy we would be the ones inventing the language and programming in it. There is no computer other than the language. Space and time would not exist until measured, and when measured will be the measurements themselves rather than independent operations. We break down a single measurement, you could say, and call the different aspects "space", "time", and others.

The measurement is perspective.

When we "perceive" the field of relationships we are measuring as we look at one aspect in relation to an other.

All inventions of humanity are a way for us to understand reality and what is really going on in a strange kind of reverse-engineering. Through trial and error, eventually we are able to reach the very essence of how creation is possible.

Computers and technology are some of the more exciting ways that we're doing that.

 Quoting: Chaol




Hmmmmmmmm! Wish he was here to talk more about this.
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We've got a very small problem Chaol. I actually did go to the dentist last week in this reality and that was exactly what the dentist said and the father's day cup is in this reality too and it is important to me like a trophy. The cup is sitting right beside me now in this reality.

I thought the dentist thing was spooky, but it was obviously coincidence (ok there is no such thing as a coincidence). Am i already in the new reality or does that mean i need to start over?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


We're creating a bridge between one reality and an other, so there will be some correlation.

However, I'm concerned a bit with the nature of your trophy in this reality (since it contains a photo).

Regardless, can you describe what happens when you wake up one day next week in the other reality?
 Quoting: Chaol


I wake up and grab a coffee and rush to get the kids dressed and off to school. Travel days always take longer to say goodbye to the boys, because I know I won't see them for at least a few days.

I drive back home and get my golf bag and luggage then over to my caddy's place to pick him up and head to the airport. Everything is taken care of for us at the airport. As we walk through the airport, everyone is wishing me luck in Augusta. I love signing autographs on all the kids ballcaps.

Right after we touch down in Augusta, we head over to Pinehurst. Today is a special day. My dad has made the trip to Augusta, and is there waiting for me. We are going to play a practice round together. The golf is almost too easy, effortless as we play and talk.

After the round, we grab a quick bite, head back to the hotel and its time to call the boys to say goodnight. Its time for me to go to bed now too, tomorrow is going to be an exciting day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


How we learn, perceive, interact, etc., is from the relationships of things.

When we dream we are learning how a dream-like thing relates to something else.

When we wake up we are thinking about one or more "real life" elements and rediscovering the relationships it has with other things like itself.

When we travel through time (so to speak) we are taking one thing from that time and finding out about how it relates to something else similar to it.

When we alter our reality the same thing happens as when we learn how to do something - we take a single example and learn how it interacts with the things around it.

Some people learn faster than others not because of intelligence but because they can understand these relationships more easily.

I ask you for this detail, above, because it is vitally important for the next step in discovering another reality for yourself.

When you can see how one thing relates to an other thing (in your example above) then you are beginning to learn how to perceive as if you are already in that reality.

Get involved in the drama of a dream element and you will eventually find yourself asleep.

Get involved in the drama of an other reality and you will eventually find yourself there.

If I did not know some of the drama that occurs here in this world it would not be so easy to come back. My creative imagination would have taken me to an other world with a new set of dramatic elements.

I think, when you take your example and delve more into the drama of the specifics then a good physical symbol of your new reality will come to you. (Just make sure it's as unique as a work of art or as unexpected as a fresh baseball.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Interesting!
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Today, I was trying to think of the manufacturer of a truck that my husband used to own. I couldn't remember the name. 30 seconds later, a truck drove past my house that was the exact truck that I was trying to think of - same color, same everything. It was a Nissan Frontier.

Mutant Messiah, you posted some things that were taken directly out of my own head. You stated some ideas that were exactly what I was thinking upon also.

I have hesitated to make this announcement to this thread, but it is becoming very, very clear to me: I think I have "crossed over". I think the term for where I am at is called "transition". I mean this for-real. Nothing airy-fairy here.

I think that this began in earnest with me nearly four years ago. I can almost put my finger on the date that my (mental, emotional) world turned upside down and inside out. Using hindsight, I can see that it was a major turning point.

Even though I still live in the same place as I have for the past ten years, there is a surreal difference to practically everything. There is a very different comprehension of things. I don't know exactly how to put this. It is simply somewhere other than where I was before.

It isn't an unpleasant place nor is it a terrible place. It is just different.

I searched for this and finally found it from September 2011:

Some of us here (most?) seem to anticipate what you call doom, and want something "exciting" to happen.

Back in June on this thread (page 35 onwards) I talked about my world merging with yours starting September 2, and additional events occurring on September 9th and September 23.

Energies from my world 'built up' on September 2, were released and were received by your world on September 9, as advised.

I also said a few months ago that starting September 23, things will intensify and become more obvious that a new set of rules is coming into play (that a new kind of physical world will rise to the surface).

That, too, is starting up as scheduled. Today, you are no longer in the Earth that you were born in.
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Some random thoughts Chaol, if you can comment where you can?

I have been wanting to ask why you'd choose this perspective over some "perfect" existance, if you had the tools to do so.

 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Out realities could be bridged fairly easily, by introducing the ecys model, which therefore maps the two? (This doesn't feel quite right).

Without a radical jump in perception (ie death), only small changes in perception can be made.

Quoting: OverTheRainbow


When you perceive you are perceiving abstract relationships, not things. You dress it up with physicality in order to make sense of it.

There is no jump from life to death. It may not seem like it, but to the person experiencing "death" there is a very logical progression of experience from one reality to an other.

Radical "jumps" are not possible. (It would only seem like a quantum leap from the outside.)

I simply find a field of relationships from this world and represent it in my world.

Sometimes, though, the world that my girlfriend is in and the world that this particular forum is in is not the same world.

So then I will leave "bookmarks" in this forum that I will be able to get back here easily. It may be that I leave behind some representation like a trail of numbers that other people develop relationships with (e.g., "try to solve the puzzle") in order to create a unique field of relationships that will mark my position. Or it could be something else.

You do all of this yourself, without realizing it. If you go through an old box of memories, for example, your current perspective would change. Maybe you would remember things that you had forgotten, or thoughts that you had before would come to you.

You would then be experiencing the "past" anew from the representations (photos, for example).

The bridges are all around you. And it possible to learn how to utilize them in order to change your experience.

How would you change your experience to something as distant as the time of the dino-saurs? You would represent that experience in your current reality and allow it to develop a relationship with your current representations. Because it is not so logical to your current experience you would probably need several iterations of the representation. This is where some people may get lost (in the representation.. they make it too relative to their current experience and end up not experiencing anything new. A little imagination is needed here.)

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As far as I can tell, we are in and out of different realities, all day long. Chaol even says this forum is sometimes in a different world from the world his girlfriend is in! (See above)
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Today, I was trying to think of the manufacturer of a truck that my husband used to own. I couldn't remember the name. 30 seconds later, a truck drove past my house that was the exact truck that I was trying to think of - same color, same everything. It was a Nissan Frontier.

Mutant Messiah, you posted some things that were taken directly out of my own head. You stated some ideas that were exactly what I was thinking upon also.

I have hesitated to make this announcement to this thread, but it is becoming very, very clear to me: I think I have "crossed over". I think the term for where I am at is called "transition". I mean this for-real. Nothing airy-fairy here.

I think that this began in earnest with me nearly four years ago. I can almost put my finger on the date that my (mental, emotional) world turned upside down and inside out. Using hindsight, I can see that it was a major turning point.

Even though I still live in the same place as I have for the past ten years, there is a surreal difference to practically everything. There is a very different comprehension of things. I don't know exactly how to put this. It is simply somewhere other than where I was before.

It isn't an unpleasant place nor is it a terrible place. It is just different.

I searched for this and finally found it from September 2011:

Some of us here (most?) seem to anticipate what you call doom, and want something "exciting" to happen.

Back in June on this thread (page 35 onwards) I talked about my world merging with yours starting September 2, and additional events occurring on September 9th and September 23.

Energies from my world 'built up' on September 2, were released and were received by your world on September 9, as advised.

I also said a few months ago that starting September 23, things will intensify and become more obvious that a new set of rules is coming into play (that a new kind of physical world will rise to the surface).

That, too, is starting up as scheduled. Today, you are no longer in the Earth that you were born in.
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Good gosh, this complete post and this part of the thread are......mind-blowing!!!
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I miss Marco Polo :(
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It's time someone else created a thread about the last few months of this thread and what, supposedly, is to come.

Most people on this website are unaware of what is going on inside this forum.

Assist others, and you will be assisted.

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Whoa! Chaol asked (in Sept. 2011) that someone create a thread and discuss what he's been teaching here. I'll keep reading to see why it hasn't happened.

Edit: He started the Farpoint thread after asking.

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I miss Marco Polo :(
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Meaning Chaol? If so, me too.

I've also missed YOU!

And, non-chaol, tuuuuuuur, catcarel, spawnx, xwon, ambria, miqq, majorman, tampagirl and a few others.

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Basically, I am just telling you what is going on. I am the only one that knows (that is posting on the internet; old monks don't care to) what is going on right now because what is going on right now is directly related to the world and perspective that I am most familiar with.
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Look what I found. Chaol is saying those monks (in Thailand, I'm sure) know what's going on. Remember I asked him what they are like? He said they are like the Architect from Matrix!

I also asked him what they are like to talk to and he said he wasn't going to answer that. (Wish I had a $1.00 for every time he told me that!)
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)
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I miss Marco Polo :(
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Meaning Chaol? If so, me too. I've also missed YOU!

And, non-chaol, tuuuuuuur, catcarel, spawnx, xwon, ambria, majorman, tampagirl and a few others.
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bumpy


op, I am very interested in your form of perception. I would like much more instruction on it, if you do have such available.
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Surely!

Search for the 4 elements and you shall find on your choice of search engine.

I am working on spreading this knowledge, as I have 'settled' here. Call me Marco Polo.

Thanks.
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hfhf
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I miss Marco Polo :(
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Meaning Chaol? If so, me too. I've also missed YOU!

And, non-chaol, tuuuuuuur, catcarel, spawnx, xwon, ambria, majorman, tampagirl and a few others.
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bumpy


op, I am very interested in your form of perception. I would like much more instruction on it, if you do have such available.
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Surely!

Search for the 4 elements and you shall find on your choice of search engine.

I am working on spreading this knowledge, as I have 'settled' here. Call me Marco Polo.

Thanks.
 Quoting: chaol 183770


hfhf
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lol Knowing Chaol, now I'm wondering if he meant anything more with the Marco Polo remark!!!!!!!



Glad you posted! grouphug
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Basically, I am just telling you what is going on. I am the only one that knows (that is posting on the internet; old monks don't care to) what is going on right now because what is going on right now is directly related to the world and perspective that I am most familiar with.
 Quoting: Chaol


Look what I found. Chaol is saying those monks (in Thailand, I'm sure) know what's going on. Remember I asked him what they are like? He said they are like the Architect from Matrix!

I also asked him what they are like to talk to and he said he wasn't going to answer that. (Wish I had a $1.00 for every time he told me that!)
 Quoting: U3



Nonetheless, back in 2009, during Chaol's first absence, somebody from Thailand posted in regards to the cryptic number sequence that Chaol left. I find it interesting that the poster makes reference to "...we think..."


Are you interpreting it to mean an event on Jan 1?
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yes, from the original code

n15102009 01012010 08022010 05032010
o98696043 78534022 50080240 68600434

the second set seems to be "January 1, 2010"

we think "n" could stand for 'nexus point' which is a point in time where it is easy to travel to different dimensions because social energy of a particular vibration is being created
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Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 10)



That very same poster made only two other comments, ever, and I searched all the way back to 2008:

Thread: Dissociation from sexual/physical trauma is the common link amongst those who develop psychic skills.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 10)



I was listening to some Kryon audio, and he/It mentions that the "monks" are always here, because they provide necessary balance. Kryon says that they "sometimes look like monks".

It is one of these .mp3's. I'm not sure which:

[link to www.kryon.com]


Also, I find this explanation of "The Architect" very enlightening:

"The Architect created the first Matrix as a utopia for the humans whose minds inhabited it. However, the human minds rejected this first attempt as a perfect world and beta 1 of the Matrix crashed. A second attempt added "vulgarities" of human nature and a basic cause and effect, but this beta was also a failure. The Architect turned to a more intuitive program designed to understand human nature and psychology to augment the framework of the next Matrix. This time, the power of choice was added to the programming, where humans would be allowed the power to choose, even if the person was only aware of the choice on a vague, unconscious level."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Incidentally, I have followed Kryon since the 80's, because he/It gives a lot of information regarding "30,000 years ago".
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Turn your watch back about 100,000 years.

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Basically, I am just telling you what is going on. I am the only one that knows (that is posting on the internet; old monks don't care to) what is going on right now because what is going on right now is directly related to the world and perspective that I am most familiar with.
 Quoting: Chaol


Look what I found. Chaol is saying those monks (in Thailand, I'm sure) know what's going on. Remember I asked him what they are like? He said they are like the Architect from Matrix!

I also asked him what they are like to talk to and he said he wasn't going to answer that. (Wish I had a $1.00 for every time he told me that!)
 Quoting: U3



Nonetheless, back in 2009, during Chaol's first absence, somebody from Thailand posted in regards to the cryptic number sequence that Chaol left. I find it interesting that the poster makes reference to "...we think..."


Are you interpreting it to mean an event on Jan 1?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473983


yes, from the original code

n15102009 01012010 08022010 05032010
o98696043 78534022 50080240 68600434

the second set seems to be "January 1, 2010"

we think "n" could stand for 'nexus point' which is a point in time where it is easy to travel to different dimensions because social energy of a particular vibration is being created
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 851764

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 10)



That very same poster made only two other comments, ever, and I searched all the way back to 2008:

Thread: Dissociation from sexual/physical trauma is the common link amongst those who develop psychic skills.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 10)



I was listening to some Kryon audio, and he/It mentions that the "monks" are always here, because they provide necessary balance. Kryon says that they "sometimes look like monks".

It is one of these .mp3's. I'm not sure which:

[link to www.kryon.com]


Also, I find this explanation of "The Architect" very enlightening:

"The Architect created the first Matrix as a utopia for the humans whose minds inhabited it. However, the human minds rejected this first attempt as a perfect world and beta 1 of the Matrix crashed. A second attempt added "vulgarities" of human nature and a basic cause and effect, but this beta was also a failure. The Architect turned to a more intuitive program designed to understand human nature and psychology to augment the framework of the next Matrix. This time, the power of choice was added to the programming, where humans would be allowed the power to choose, even if the person was only aware of the choice on a vague, unconscious level."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: U3



Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just wow! Why wouldn't the monks want to keep up with Chaol??????? Great find, AC15!!!!!! So, maybe the monks Chaol lived with were actually kryon?

The last part of the Architect....people will be allowed the power to choose, even if on an unconscious level....I've seen that with people around me!!

Keep posting AC15!!! Great stuff! rockon
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Incidentally, I have followed Kryon since the 80's, because he/It gives a lot of information regarding "30,000 years ago".
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Seriously?

OK, found a link to where he talks about 30,000 years ago. He says it was when Lemuria created a pure group of spiritually seeded Humans.

[link to www.kryon.com]


Also talks about governments from 30,000 years until now....

"Let me talk about governments, because you’re going to see some change. First, look at history: For years, even in your lifetime and those of your grandparents, the leadership of countries has decided to conquer one another simply because they could! There was an unspoken barbaric attitude that, “If we are more powerful, then we deserve to conquer the weak and take their land.” This is history and wasn’t all that long ago.

Let me remind you, 30,000 years of your past history is filled with this. It’s literally the history of humanity. Whoever had the most power invaded the one who did not, did you notice? The strong one didn’t have to have a reason, either. If a country had no army, then they eventually had no country! Today, that is no longer in your consciousness, or that of most current governments. But sometimes it still happens, and when you see it, even on a small scale, it disgusts you, does it not? That entire attitude doesn’t seem to be accurate anymore, and it’s shocking when you see it. There’s now more respect for sovereignty and the idea of conquering is something from the past."

[link to jhaines6.wordpress.com]


I have just intutively known what we are watching is the dying throes of our current system and the emergence of something new!!!

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