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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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I'm completely mind-blown after reading this. Talk about a new perspective...

[link to www.conscioushugs.com]

Btw, definitely been getting a strong nexus vibe for the past 24hrs. Not sure what to do with the extra energy though. It's just translating as nervous tension. Any thoughts?
 Quoting: CatCarel




Well, this ties together things I had been reading about. I ran across the expanding earth theory but can't find it now. But, here's a YT video on it that is close to what I read:



And in one of the threads here in GLP, they were talking about chemtrails are used to block the sun's rays. I didn't save the link on it either, because I'm on the positive timeline instead of the apocalyptic, so I don't worry about these things.

Btw, Obama's been to Mars.
[link to exopolitics.blogs.com]
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.

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What about wasps and mosquitoes? How do I "un-accommodate" those infections? As it is, I swat at mosquitoes and run from wasps. How do I relax that resistance? How can I make them irrelevant altogether? They bite!
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You would bring up mosquitoes. I hate those things, lol! But, seriously, I have been able to ask them to leave me alone and on occasion, it works. I've also waved my hand at them and they leave. It doesn't always work, though. But, I know hating them only draws them to me.

Thanks for bringing insects up. I might go ahead and do a Genius or Ec string about them now that the insect season is about to start. Just to see what I can do.

I have removed spiders from my house by telling them they will like where I take them. A couple of spiders rode the paper I stuck under them, like it was a magic carpet ride. Now, I sort of look forward to finding a spider in the house because it's cute to watch them ride the paper that takes them outside.
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Yes, and by resisting something in your perspective you're actually validating its existence in it.

To exemplify this "unknown" type of resistance imagine you have a members-only golf club and some guy wanders in off the street. You have two choices:

1) Resist - kick him out. You are now resisting a part of your own perspective. He'll come back with a couple of friends, or maybe a bulldozer.

2) Unknowingly resist - tell him to get out of the locker room. You've just validated his existence in the golf club.

If you didn't see the need to experience that value in your perspective then it would be irrelevant.

(In the above example, by not having a members-only club you would not have had to resist in #1 and #2, and the new value would appear as something else.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Very cool! So, if you don't care for something in your perspective, relate to it differently.
 Quoting: U3


Change the relationship of what is already there and change the perspective. I think that's what The Genius is all about!

Each step seems to be like a mental process to change the relationships of the values in perspective.
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Here's some unveiling.....whole timeline of Obamer:
[link to www.slideshare.net]
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Here's some unveiling.....whole timeline of Obamer:
[link to www.slideshare.net]
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Thanks. I don't know how valid any of that is but I know the best way to keep a secret is to make the "truth" unbelievable.

If I wanted to steal your cookie jar I would train a troupe of a dozen monkeys. I would dress each one in Victorian attire. One monkey would even carry a parasol. The monkeys would slowly waltz into your room, making their way over to your cookies. You would not even realize the cookies or the monkeys are gone!

1) Any witness would be too shocked to take action.

2) Any witness would probably not report what they saw

3) There is no risk to training the monkeys. But there is a risk of being caught. Therefore, devote all resources to making each thing you want to get away with as unbelievable as possible.

(However, the more it relates to your current reality the more potential for exposure. If the monkeys were naked and began to act like monkeys you would be more aware of what is happening, and be more likely to relay it to others.)

There are some realities too strange for even 'conspiracy theorists' to consider.

Someone could write a book on it and it will still be hidden.

If you want to hide something, hide it from perspective by making it as irrelevant to it as possible. Then people would not even have the language to express the reality.

Is this not how we find ourselves now?

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I'm completely mind-blown after reading this. Talk about a new perspective...

[link to www.conscioushugs.com]

Btw, definitely been getting a strong nexus vibe for the past 24hrs. Not sure what to do with the extra energy though. It's just translating as nervous tension. Any thoughts?
 Quoting: CatCarel




Well, this ties together things I had been reading about. I ran across the expanding earth theory but can't find it now. But, here's a YT video on it that is close to what I read:



And in one of the threads here in GLP, they were talking about chemtrails are used to block the sun's rays. I didn't save the link on it either, because I'm on the positive timeline instead of the apocalyptic, so I don't worry about these things.

Btw, Obama's been to Mars.
[link to exopolitics.blogs.com]
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.
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Are you able to change things that are happening while you're dreaming?
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I'm completely mind-blown after reading this. Talk about a new perspective...

[link to www.conscioushugs.com]

Btw, definitely been getting a strong nexus vibe for the past 24hrs. Not sure what to do with the extra energy though. It's just translating as nervous tension. Any thoughts?
 Quoting: CatCarel




Well, this ties together things I had been reading about. I ran across the expanding earth theory but can't find it now. But, here's a YT video on it that is close to what I read:



And in one of the threads here in GLP, they were talking about chemtrails are used to block the sun's rays. I didn't save the link on it either, because I'm on the positive timeline instead of the apocalyptic, so I don't worry about these things.

Btw, Obama's been to Mars.
[link to exopolitics.blogs.com]
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.
 Quoting: Chaol


What an amazing dream :)

The way you described it sounded almost peaceful, natural. Most of us would attribute such changes with chaos and destruction, but I suppose evolution is as difficult as you make it.

One thing I've noticed about myself is that my dreams are extremely 'normal'; never abstract or trippy. I realize perception is causing this, but it would be nice to break out of the hum-drum everyday experience.
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You would bring up mosquitoes. I hate those things, lol! But, seriously, I have been able to ask them to leave me alone and on occasion, it works. I've also waved my hand at them and they leave. It doesn't always work, though. But, I know hating them only draws them to me.

Thanks for bringing insects up. I might go ahead and do a Genius or Ec string about them now that the insect season is about to start. Just to see what I can do.

I have removed spiders from my house by telling them they will like where I take them. A couple of spiders rode the paper I stuck under them, like it was a magic carpet ride. Now, I sort of look forward to finding a spider in the house because it's cute to watch them ride the paper that takes them outside.
 Quoting: U3


Yes, and by resisting something in your perspective you're actually validating its existence in it.

To exemplify this "unknown" type of resistance imagine you have a members-only golf club and some guy wanders in off the street. You have two choices:

1) Resist - kick him out. You are now resisting a part of your own perspective. He'll come back with a couple of friends, or maybe a bulldozer.

2) Unknowingly resist - tell him to get out of the locker room. You've just validated his existence in the golf club.

If you didn't see the need to experience that value in your perspective then it would be irrelevant.

(In the above example, by not having a members-only club you would not have had to resist in #1 and #2, and the new value would appear as something else.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Very cool! So, if you don't care for something in your perspective, relate to it differently.
 Quoting: U3


Change the relationship of what is already there and change the perspective. I think that's what The Genius is all about!

Each step seems to be like a mental process to change the relationships of the values in perspective.
 Quoting: Chaol




This must be why even just having intent makes things happen. You've already changed the mental process with intent.
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Here's some unveiling.....whole timeline of Obamer:
[link to www.slideshare.net]
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Thanks. I don't know how valid any of that is but I know the best way to keep a secret is to make the "truth" unbelievable.

If I wanted to steal your cookie jar I would train a troupe of a dozen monkeys. I would dress each one in Victorian attire. One monkey would even carry a parasol. The monkeys would slowly waltz into your room, making their way over to your cookies. You would not even realize the cookies or the monkeys are gone!

1) Any witness would be too shocked to take action.

2) Any witness would probably not report what they saw

3) There is no risk to training the monkeys. But there is a risk of being caught. Therefore, devote all resources to making each thing you want to get away with as unbelievable as possible.

(However, the more it relates to your current reality the more potential for exposure. If the monkeys were naked and began to act like monkeys you would be more aware of what is happening, and be more likely to relay it to others.)

There are some realities too strange for even 'conspiracy theorists' to consider.

Someone could write a book on it and it will still be hidden.

If you want to hide something, hide it from perspective by making it as irrelevant to it as possible. Then people would not even have the language to express the reality.

Is this not how we find ourselves now?
 Quoting: Chaol




This is the first time I've seen a whistleblower who is eyewittness to some of it, though.

Some of the stuff I believe, I can't mention to most folks....including here in GLP!

Interesting, yes we have hidden the language and made it irrevelvant to our perspective. The question is, why? And, I suppose this perception of our governments is a projection of this and why Chaol suggested we look to those closest to us to see what's hidden?

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Vroom vroom! Let's fly dreamer! Hehe

I've not had a lucid dream yet but I've been more aware of my dreams lately. I basically learn things there and I know it's about how things relate to each other. Like everything in the dream is a physical object. But I don't really recall the details of the dream when I wake up, just that I've learned a lot.
 Quoting: Nahoti


There's a giant bucket of popcorn in your living room. There! Do you see it? It's 10 feet tall.

I think you've just pulled yourself into a lucid dream. You'll have to wait until dreamtime to see the other interpretation of your experience, though.
 Quoting: Chaol


I like the thought that I have been pulled into a lucid dream by just that statement you made about popcorn. I'm open to the experience even though I don't know how I will end up perceiving a 10 feet tall bucket of popcorn. Will I dream of this?

Will come back with any findings. Thanks.
 Quoting: Nahoti


I think dreaming is inherently lucid.

But the question is "How does the dream world relate to my waking world"

The more it relates the more lucid it becomes. When your dream worlds are using the language you use to remember your dream in waking reality, then there is a connection.

But I wonder. Has anyone ever had a lucid dream that did not use the same physical objects as their waking reality?
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I read some research article once that said that when you dream of people you can only dream of faces you have seen in waking life. It could be a passing stranger on the bus you barely gave a glance to. If you dream of a face, you have seen it somewhere.

If the science is correct, then no, you could not dream of any physical object you haven't seen somewhere while waking.

I'm more interested in the waking dream. It seems to me, everything and everyone I perceive is nothing new. What may seem "new" is just a re-patterning of familiar objects. Even things that seem totally foreign, if i break them down, are ultimately composed of familiar components, just used in new ways.

I suppose when I was a baby I saw everything with new eyes. But I don't remember that whole period, and what it was like.
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.
 Quoting: Chaol


Sounds like The Electric Universe. YouTube that, and Thunderbolts Project, and Symbols of an Alien Sky.

The last one.. Sekhmet?

*disclaimer: I watched these awhile ago and my memory is like swiss cheese.
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WHOA!!!!!! We may not be posting beyond Dec. 2013 here? Kewl!!!!!
 Quoting: U3

Is that quote from 2011?

Everything changed. We're still here. Chaol too.
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I figured the information is still valid.
 Quoting: U3


Chaol plays chess, not checkers.

Rather than being off by a couple of years I think it was done at a good time.

Just after that post then people began to create websites, post on other forums, and to create PDFs of this forum.

Without it, it may have not been done. But I do not know what the purpose of spreading Ecsys was.
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Btw, just wondering how you noticed people began creating websites, PDF's, etc: after he posted that?
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lol

did u notice chaol started to jump countries flags again?

ofc its usual for the old chaol

but didnt see it happening for the new chaol soooo

returning to singularity?

:)
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Surely by this point in time you are able to discern that Chaol is role playing as Neo-chaol as a new way to communicate the message.

Not-Chaol
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Hmmmmmmmm, noticing something today. Will get back to you on this! :o)

Role-playing seems a little strong, though.
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OK, I figured it out and thanks for helping me notice.

"Role-playing" (or becoming someone else) is a way of getting us to interact with this value, differently.........so changes our perspective and also his.

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They are the same world. Two different kinds of physicality.

But I think to our dream perspective, the dream world is linear. It only appears to be non-linear from our physical perspective.
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Hey Chaol it seems like your perspective has time traveled to the younger Chaol before his ride to "high awareness". I have just a few questions for you. Your answers in your current perspective (2013 neochaol) will help perspective understand.

So why have perspective in the dream physicality?

Why perspective perceives physicality physical as"real". And dream physicality as just dreams "not real". Irrelevant? I would like to here a story.

Chaol can you describe your current awareness of dream physicality? Compare to physical physicality awareness? Differences similarities. How does your perspective define awareness?

Do the same rules apply in dream physicality can occur in physical? Or is it all perspective and discovering perspective from the ways of Chaol will blow your minds no need guessing words to explain.

How does one perspective become more aware of dream physicality? And once there is a relationship with high awareness of both nonseparte worlds what happens next?

How far will you go?
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Truth is only relative in the presence of doubt. Not as some kind of primal "duality", but as a structure dependent on one another. An experience is only relative in the presence of an observer would be another accurate example. Death is only relative in the presence of life. They're not opposing sides of a duality, they're one in the same. One cannot be perceived without the other.

The greatest truths and understandings will grow from an environment infected with lies and ignorance.

We say we do not want to experience "bad" but it's only in the "bad" that the good is ALLOWED to be perceived.

This is not because of a duality, these are structures (logic) dependent on one another... like how our ability to see is dependent on the "quality" of our eyes/visual mechanism.

Ok, just woke up and that's what I was dreaming about.
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I'm completely mind-blown after reading this. Talk about a new perspective...

[link to www.conscioushugs.com]

Btw, definitely been getting a strong nexus vibe for the past 24hrs. Not sure what to do with the extra energy though. It's just translating as nervous tension. Any thoughts?
 Quoting: CatCarel




Well, this ties together things I had been reading about. I ran across the expanding earth theory but can't find it now. But, here's a YT video on it that is close to what I read:



And in one of the threads here in GLP, they were talking about chemtrails are used to block the sun's rays. I didn't save the link on it either, because I'm on the positive timeline instead of the apocalyptic, so I don't worry about these things.

Btw, Obama's been to Mars.
[link to exopolitics.blogs.com]
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.
 Quoting: Chaol


This reminded me of Velikovsky's theory that mythology has a cosmological background. He theorized that, because Zeus/Jupiter was the master of the gods in Greece and Rome, at one time in earth history Jupiter must have been more important, viewed from Earth.
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I have a feeling AC15 is banned and I heard from another member that she's been banned for ages. When I was an AC and got banned, I could still get in here to read. I just couldn't post.

So, I'll put this invite here...for anyone. And please, if and when you're banned, we would love to hear from you. Send me PM or give me your email address and I'll send you an invite to another place where we are gathered.

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I have a feeling AC15 is banned and I heard from another member that she's been banned for ages. When I was an AC and got banned, I could still get in here to read. I just couldn't post.

So, I'll put this invite here...for anyone. And please, if and when you're banned, we would love to hear from you, even if it's through this Yahoo Group.

[link to groups.yahoo.com]

(I'm only leaving this address up for a few hours. I'll edit and remove it later today or this evening.)
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Are you sure that is an invite link? Mind you, I hardly do anything with my Yahoo account.

But when I click that link, I'm getting:
"Sorry, this group is available to members ONLY.
You are not allowed to access this group."

hf
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I have a feeling AC15 is banned and I heard from another member that she's been banned for ages. When I was an AC and got banned, I could still get in here to read. I just couldn't post.

So, I'll put this invite here...for anyone. And please, if and when you're banned, we would love to hear from you. We have an offline group. Just PM me or give me your email address.


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Are you sure that is an invite link? Mind you, I hardly do anything with my Yahoo account.

But when I click that link, I'm getting:
"Sorry, this group is available to members ONLY.
You are not allowed to access this group."

hf
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Fixed!

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Old logic = 1, 2, 3, 4

Very simple pattern, the most logical for our very right brained perspective = +1

New logic = 1, 2, 3, 5

In this very of interpreting infinite entropy, we realize the logic behind why there is no 4 next. Which takes some lateral thinking

5, is there because it appears at the same time as 1,2, and 3.
(Love/satisfaction/winning/unconditional acceptance/being alive comes first, love is space and before and after the big bang is all space, so it's symbolization (5) comes simultaneous to 1,2,3. Matter is illusion, there is still only just space.

What has a beginning must have an end, love has no beginning, suffering does. (well it never was, just smoke and mirrors)

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The problem with perceiving the new pattern and making it useful, is that we are used to logic then emotion, where this is more similar to emotion then logic.

It requires surrender and trust, because you have to open yourself up to possibility which could be infinitely good and infinitely bad. We feel shame and unworthiness so we cap the amount of happiness we can handle at any one time. ECSYS to me is just about learning how you can experience anything more specifically satisfaction.

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The pattern is difficult because it is like flying, you must already be off the ground for it to work. It is a more efficient way to perceive, that conserves more energy by bring your manifestations and intent closer together.

We make a genius, then interact with it, then look for how that consciousness and relationship is reexpressed into a new representation. The trick is that you are unfocusing and using less "normal" logic.

Let's say you wanted a fantastic get away, then you see a tree with "hawaii or bust" carved into it, then a week later you see an ad on tv for cheap flights for Hawaii, then someone gives you lei, then onward as it become more and more relative in your reality.

You are interacting with the same thing (you relationship with your desire to experience hawaii) it is just symbolized and represented in not obvious ways to your "normal" logic, however with practice this "new" logic will allow you to feel and know these representations in faster ways. They will not be predictable or expected, they will sort of effortlessly appear and make themselves very obvious. A coincidence that is just too weird, and thus focusing you on possibilities that saves energy, because it is easier to have you get closer to you true desire than to try to swim in a tv ad or tree. The relationship is what matters and you interaction with the representation that has the relationship you desire. (don't forget this is subjective, your relationship with mushrooms may be different than mine, and thus your interaction with it would yield something different)

This logic is still a logic, it is still linear, however it seems like "magic" from a different perspective. Someone else might not see how interacting with a tree, sniffing, hugging, rubbing, and caressing it would get you to hawaii, but it just might if the relationship is the same.

Note: you never get what you want because it is irrelevant before you get it. If wanted to win lottery, might find representation of magic wand that grants infinite wishes instantly, same result and relationship, different symbols. Don't pigeon hole with expectations because you are then discounting and Infinite of other ways could manifest, and thus lengthening the process.

Still can get a lottery win, but will require come ingenuity to map it and keep it relevant in the new perspective you move through.

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Please note, there is a pattern even more efficient chaol hints at that might go 0, 123, 123, 246, 369, 615, etc. we will always be finding more efficient patterns that make love and magic more present in our lives? or maybe irrelevant, just the beginning

Disclaimer: I don't actually know what I am talking about, and this is just nonsense role playing I do when I am clownin'. Go to work everyday, work hard, no breaks. ;)
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Old logic = 1, 2, 3, 4

Very simple pattern, the most logical for our very right brained perspective = +1

New logic = 1, 2, 3, 5

In this very of interpreting infinite entropy, we realize the logic behind why there is no 4 next. Which takes some lateral thinking

5, is there because it appears at the same time as 1,2, and 3.
(Love/satisfaction/winning/unconditional acceptance/being alive comes first, love is space and before and after the big bang is all space, so it's symbolization (5) comes simultaneous to 1,2,3. Matter is illusion, there is still only just space.

What has a beginning must have an end, love has no beginning, suffering does. (well it never was, just smoke and mirrors)

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The problem with perceiving the new pattern and making it useful, is that we are used to logic then emotion, where this is more similar to emotion then logic.

It requires surrender and trust, because you have to open yourself up to possibility which could be infinitely good and infinitely bad. We feel shame and unworthiness so we cap the amount of happiness we can handle at any one time. ECSYS to me is just about learning how you can experience anything more specifically satisfaction.

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The pattern is difficult because it is like flying, you must already be off the ground for it to work. It is a more efficient way to perceive, that conserves more energy by bring your manifestations and intent closer together.

We make a genius, then interact with it, then look for how that consciousness and relationship is reexpressed into a new representation. The trick is that you are unfocusing and using less "normal" logic.

Let's say you wanted a fantastic get away, then you see a tree with "hawaii or bust" carved into it, then a week later you see an ad on tv for cheap flights for Hawaii, then someone gives you lei, then onward as it become more and more relative in your reality.

You are interacting with the same thing (you relationship with your desire to experience hawaii) it is just symbolized and represented in not obvious ways to your "normal" logic, however with practice this "new" logic will allow you to feel and know these representations in faster ways. They will not be predictable or expected, they will sort of effortlessly appear and make themselves very obvious. A coincidence that is just too weird, and thus focusing you on possibilities that saves energy, because it is easier to have you get closer to you true desire than to try to swim in a tv ad or tree. The relationship is what matters and you interaction with the representation that has the relationship you desire. (don't forget this is subjective, your relationship with mushrooms may be different than mine, and thus your interaction with it would yield something different)

This logic is still a logic, it is still linear, however it seems like "magic" from a different perspective. Someone else might not see how interacting with a tree, sniffing, hugging, rubbing, and caressing it would get you to hawaii, but it just might if the relationship is the same.

Note: you never get what you want because it is irrelevant before you get it. If wanted to win lottery, might find representation of magic wand that grants infinite wishes instantly, same result and relationship, different symbols. Don't pigeon hole with expectations because you are then discounting and Infinite of other ways could manifest, and thus lengthening the process.

Still can get a lottery win, but will require come ingenuity to map it and keep it relevant in the new perspective you move through.

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Please note, there is a pattern even more efficient chaol hints at that might go 0, 123, 123, 246, 369, 615, etc. we will always be finding more efficient patterns that make love and magic more present in our lives? or maybe irrelevant, just the beginning

Disclaimer: I don't actually know what I am talking about, and this is just nonsense role playing I do when I am clownin'. Go to work everyday, work hard, no breaks. ;)
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This 'symbol alphabet' you guys are beginning sounds a lot like what I read on and understand as the ancient senzar to be. I'm intrigued at the prospect of a new way to interface with one another. Hieroglyphics come to mind as they relate a concept in picture form, allowing the reader to form their own unique way of seeing that thought-sequence playing out in this reality, as opposed to the way we communicate or convey our ideas now leaves no room for the reader to add his own flavor. The construct is established by the original writer (OW), so the 'reader' has no reason or opportunity to 'think'. The thought was 'completed' by the OW. I see what you are proposing as similar to hieroglyphics, but cleaner and simpler, more attuned to the need for free thinking now and the nature-technologies of tomorrow. I like it! (will be reading) Just trying to understand...cool2
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Very cool! So, if you don't care for something in your perspective, relate to it differently.
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Sounds easy enough :)
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Is that quote from 2011?

Everything changed. We're still here. Chaol too.
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I figured the information is still valid.
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Chaol plays chess, not checkers.

Rather than being off by a couple of years I think it was done at a good time.

Just after that post then people began to create websites, post on other forums, and to create PDFs of this forum.

Without it, it may have not been done. But I do not know what the purpose of spreading Ecsys was.
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Interesting. I hadn't noticed this. Thanks.

This is about all the armageddon I'm allowing into my perspective! ;o)
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Perhaps its only interpreted as 'Armageddon' because we don't want to let go of our old perspectives. The new perspectives can be resisted by some (many?) because it means a drastic change.

It could be a natural process.
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Are you able to change things that are happening while you're dreaming?
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Yes. Aren't you?
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I'm completely mind-blown after reading this. Talk about a new perspective...

[link to www.conscioushugs.com]

Btw, definitely been getting a strong nexus vibe for the past 24hrs. Not sure what to do with the extra energy though. It's just translating as nervous tension. Any thoughts?
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Well, this ties together things I had been reading about. I ran across the expanding earth theory but can't find it now. But, here's a YT video on it that is close to what I read:



And in one of the threads here in GLP, they were talking about chemtrails are used to block the sun's rays. I didn't save the link on it either, because I'm on the positive timeline instead of the apocalyptic, so I don't worry about these things.

Btw, Obama's been to Mars.
[link to exopolitics.blogs.com]
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.
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What an amazing dream :)

The way you described it sounded almost peaceful, natural. Most of us would attribute such changes with chaos and destruction, but I suppose evolution is as difficult as you make it.

One thing I've noticed about myself is that my dreams are extremely 'normal'; never abstract or trippy. I realize perception is causing this, but it would be nice to break out of the hum-drum everyday experience.
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It could be that we only remember the ones that use the same language as the brain that remembers the experience.

And all of the other more abstract dreams are ignored because there is no way to translate the experience.

Surely there is so much that we dream that we are unaware of. But are of course aware of during the dream.
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Here's some unveiling.....whole timeline of Obamer:
[link to www.slideshare.net]
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Thanks. I don't know how valid any of that is but I know the best way to keep a secret is to make the "truth" unbelievable.

If I wanted to steal your cookie jar I would train a troupe of a dozen monkeys. I would dress each one in Victorian attire. One monkey would even carry a parasol. The monkeys would slowly waltz into your room, making their way over to your cookies. You would not even realize the cookies or the monkeys are gone!

1) Any witness would be too shocked to take action.

2) Any witness would probably not report what they saw

3) There is no risk to training the monkeys. But there is a risk of being caught. Therefore, devote all resources to making each thing you want to get away with as unbelievable as possible.

(However, the more it relates to your current reality the more potential for exposure. If the monkeys were naked and began to act like monkeys you would be more aware of what is happening, and be more likely to relay it to others.)

There are some realities too strange for even 'conspiracy theorists' to consider.

Someone could write a book on it and it will still be hidden.

If you want to hide something, hide it from perspective by making it as irrelevant to it as possible. Then people would not even have the language to express the reality.

Is this not how we find ourselves now?
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This is the first time I've seen a whistleblower who is eyewittness to some of it, though.

Some of the stuff I believe, I can't mention to most folks....including here in GLP!

Interesting, yes we have hidden the language and made it irrevelvant to our perspective. The question is, why? And, I suppose this perception of our governments is a projection of this and why Chaol suggested we look to those closest to us to see what's hidden?
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The 'actors' are certainly being unveiled more than ever. We are realizing how much the world is a stage.

And, ultimately, how your "I" is the entire production.
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Here's some unveiling.....whole timeline of Obamer:
[link to www.slideshare.net]
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Thanks. I don't know how valid any of that is but I know the best way to keep a secret is to make the "truth" unbelievable.

If I wanted to steal your cookie jar I would train a troupe of a dozen monkeys. I would dress each one in Victorian attire. One monkey would even carry a parasol. The monkeys would slowly waltz into your room, making their way over to your cookies. You would not even realize the cookies or the monkeys are gone!

1) Any witness would be too shocked to take action.

2) Any witness would probably not report what they saw

3) There is no risk to training the monkeys. But there is a risk of being caught. Therefore, devote all resources to making each thing you want to get away with as unbelievable as possible.

(However, the more it relates to your current reality the more potential for exposure. If the monkeys were naked and began to act like monkeys you would be more aware of what is happening, and be more likely to relay it to others.)

There are some realities too strange for even 'conspiracy theorists' to consider.

Someone could write a book on it and it will still be hidden.

If you want to hide something, hide it from perspective by making it as irrelevant to it as possible. Then people would not even have the language to express the reality.

Is this not how we find ourselves now?
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Nicely done.
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There's a giant bucket of popcorn in your living room. There! Do you see it? It's 10 feet tall.

I think you've just pulled yourself into a lucid dream. You'll have to wait until dreamtime to see the other interpretation of your experience, though.
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I like the thought that I have been pulled into a lucid dream by just that statement you made about popcorn. I'm open to the experience even though I don't know how I will end up perceiving a 10 feet tall bucket of popcorn. Will I dream of this?

Will come back with any findings. Thanks.
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I think dreaming is inherently lucid.

But the question is "How does the dream world relate to my waking world"

The more it relates the more lucid it becomes. When your dream worlds are using the language you use to remember your dream in waking reality, then there is a connection.

But I wonder. Has anyone ever had a lucid dream that did not use the same physical objects as their waking reality?
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I read some research article once that said that when you dream of people you can only dream of faces you have seen in waking life. It could be a passing stranger on the bus you barely gave a glance to. If you dream of a face, you have seen it somewhere.

If the science is correct, then no, you could not dream of any physical object you haven't seen somewhere while waking.

I'm more interested in the waking dream. It seems to me, everything and everyone I perceive is nothing new. What may seem "new" is just a re-patterning of familiar objects. Even things that seem totally foreign, if i break them down, are ultimately composed of familiar components, just used in new ways.

I suppose when I was a baby I saw everything with new eyes. But I don't remember that whole period, and what it was like.
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I can almost remember the day I was brought home from hospital. Some of my most vivid memories I have are of when I was a baby. The strange thing about that is that my thoughts seemed fully-formed. I could even follow and correct the English of a book that was being read to me.

One thing that sticks out is that I was much more aware of what other people were thinking. It was almost like I could read their thoughts.
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I just remembered a dream I had (recently?) where I was somewhere in the solar system looking at the planets.

The solar system was breathing from each of the planets expanding from dust. There was a stream of energy coming from the sun, like the sun was breathing into each planet.

The Earth was, too, and as I focused on it I could see the atmosphere expanding as the Earth became larger and larger. There were multiple civilizations during this time, and the expansion and solar energy caused geophysical tensions like volcanoes, earthquakes, etc.

So after a while of nothing on the Earth a couple of the other planets became suns themselves. (Somehow the position of the planet shifted to where it was dark.) After this I didn't see what happened to Earth.
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Sounds like The Electric Universe. YouTube that, and Thunderbolts Project, and Symbols of an Alien Sky.

The last one.. Sekhmet?

*disclaimer: I watched these awhile ago and my memory is like swiss cheese.
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One thing I was thinking but forgot to type was that the Sun was, too, a planet with a type of life.

Maybe that has something to do with it. Though I suppose it would have had to have been a very long time ago.
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Is that quote from 2011?

Everything changed. We're still here. Chaol too.
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I figured the information is still valid.
 Quoting: U3


Chaol plays chess, not checkers.

Rather than being off by a couple of years I think it was done at a good time.

Just after that post then people began to create websites, post on other forums, and to create PDFs of this forum.

Without it, it may have not been done. But I do not know what the purpose of spreading Ecsys was.
 Quoting: Chaol




Btw, just wondering how you noticed people began creating websites, PDF's, etc: after he posted that?
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People began to talk about what they will do, and then linked to them on the forum.

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