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MutantMessiah User ID: 30364643 United States 05/20/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way.. someone asked previously about what drugs were best. I don't want to give the impression that anything I am experiencing is influenced by any sort of drug. Quoting: Chaol Actually, I've never willingly tried anything psychotropic. For me, this includes marijuana, tobacco, caffeine, alcohol, and of course all other 'hard' drugs. Surprisingly, I've never had a cup of coffee or a beer before. (I consider these drugs, also. Ok, you can stop laughing now!) I would also add aspartame and some other neurotoxins such as fluoride (and their variants) to the list. I would not want anything to impair my thinking with certain drugs (even though food is a drug, nutrient, and chemical-delivery mechanism, it's of a different sort). I don't know if this is Chaol-influenced but I can certainly see the benefit of being as clear-thinking as possible. In one of my visions recently I could see that pretty much everyone in the US was under the influence of these drugs, especially through water. I fortunately or (unfortunately) am of the USA and subject to an environment rich in psychotropics and my experiences through my life reflect that. From my perspective, these are very relative to understanding how we come to perceive (perhaps I'm getting defensive). From about 16-28(31 now), I was a guinea pig for many psychiatrists and I'm sure I've been prescribed (at one time or another) every medication available to treat bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety attacks. It was only when I realized that my "illness" was a definition of symptoms brought on by my own "careless" thinking that I quit them cold turkey and shortly after fell into a quest to understand it all. I am still willingly infected by many of your listed psychotropics. I've found (perhaps incorrectly) that high purity and high corruption are very relative and dependent upon one another. Last Edited by MutantMessiah on 05/20/2013 06:52 PM Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
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U3 User ID: 9834739 United States 05/20/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy shabazz! Quoting: VersionTwo How did we miss this news development??? Grandson of Malcom X killed in Mexico Thread: Malcolm Shabazz son of Malcolm X killed 2012 is when the lights come on, and the actors begin to be exposed for what they are. Quoting: Chaol It starts with the son of Malcolm Little (Shabazz) and his 60's fling and her extended family (all of these actors what you would call "CIA" and related operatives, each serving a grand purpose). I mentioned previosly that "we apologize" for this figure but "it will make more sense later". Now is the time. When a fascinating story is exposed then the branches of it come to light, along with actors' multiple characters and scenes. Your reality breaks down at this level, the stage crumbles. You no longer know what to believe. "As above, so below"; the world that you thought you knew so well suddenly becomes mysterious. The dream world opens. 'Truth' stranger than fiction. Why does it happen? The illustration of this unknown truth in physically-oriented exposures dictates the grandest illusion. Your perspective creates actors reading from this single script in response. The more popular it is (seemily good or not) the more likely it is to be a child of this illusion. Be it Coke, McDonald's, Facebook, Google, current affairs, Gaga, or whatever the 'hottest' person or thing is. There is no conspiracy save for the illusion of your own perspective. Welcome to the dream world. Didn't you know you were already here? (And could you imagine how 2012 would play out?) Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 74) "we apologize for this figure but it will make more sense later". I have seen this plan. I now understand how people can be influenced through their dream-scape. And their intuition. It is quite ingenious. A reverse trojan horse, so to speak. But one that destroys much, including the host. When a feeling comes from your gut, or a vision, can you work against it? So much is unraveling now. A dis-ease from within. All symbolic, of course. Very interesting. I have understood plenty of programming has been happening for quite some time. What's interesting is my Genius plan (for myself right now) but I use an Ec string for everyone......is to affect the dream-scape (since everyone is involved in it), so that all remember. A healing from within. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
U3 User ID: 9834739 United States 05/20/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If some people are wondering why some earthquakes are appearing at 37 degrees North latitude, it is because it just happens to be the first position where certain relationships are illustrated geophysically. Quoting: Chaol Ecsys prime / pi = 39.1 39.1 + phi = 40.7 39.1 - phi = 37.5 Ecsys prime (123), pi (3.1415), phi (1.618) I am unable to explain why X prime, pi, or phi are important. However, the enterprising mind may be able to figure it out as long as they remember that everything in perception has physical values (including numbers). Interesting....and esp. since we have a link to the esoteric values of pi, now! [link to www.scribd.com] This is also the exact meridian that the radioactivity from Fukushima is on. "The main body of radioactive surface plume of which activity exceeded 10 Bq m-3 travelled along 40° N and reached the International Date Line on March 2012, one year after the accident. A distinct feature of the radioactive plume was that it stayed confined along 40° N when the plume reached the International Date Line." [emphasis mine] [link to enenews.com] Just a coincidence, I presume. Just a coincidence that I found it, too. It's a post from 2011! Last Edited by ERE3 on 05/20/2013 06:13 PM "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
U3 User ID: 9834739 United States 05/20/2013 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way.. someone asked previously about what drugs were best. I don't want to give the impression that anything I am experiencing is influenced by any sort of drug. Quoting: Chaol Actually, I've never willingly tried anything psychotropic. For me, this includes marijuana, tobacco, caffeine, alcohol, and of course all other 'hard' drugs. Surprisingly, I've never had a cup of coffee or a beer before. (I consider these drugs, also. Ok, you can stop laughing now!) I would also add aspartame and some other neurotoxins such as fluoride (and their variants) to the list. I would not want anything to impair my thinking with certain drugs (even though food is a drug, nutrient, and chemical-delivery mechanism, it's of a different sort). I don't know if this is Chaol-influenced but I can certainly see the benefit of being as clear-thinking as possible. In one of my visions recently I could see that pretty much everyone in the US was under the influence of these drugs, especially through water. I have been drinking filtered, reverse osmosis or distilled water for probably 20 years. I haven't even been exposed to it much through showers or baths because I've usually had a home water filter. I wonder about the rain that waters food we eat, though? "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
AC15 User ID: 1266808 United States 05/20/2013 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would spend an hour looking at my face in the mirror, watching many different faces superimposed over mine. All things morphed into patterns and brilliant colors. I understood things that were previously not understandable. All of the insight gained affected me the rest of my life. It's like Jimi Hendrix sang: I kissed the sky. |
Lok User ID: 39964291 United States 05/20/2013 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A short time ago, in a perspective far far away... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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MutantMessiah User ID: 30364643 United States 05/20/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A short time ago, in a perspective far far away... Quoting: Lok 39964291 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe by using the genius and Ec strings as Chaol encourages we do, we are taking part in the process of how events come to be by rearranging matter/energy (genius/strings). That's why he says it doesn't matter what you're doing, just that you're doing something different...or something like that. Quoting: Nahoti I really think I get this on some level. Thanks neo-Chaol Either helps us to form a logical path to x using what is before us. The details of the logic do not matter so much, so long as it is logical in some way. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By focusing on the events we could miss what is happening, and misunderstand what is happening. Quoting: Chaol Totally get it but this part brings up a question on my mind: does it matter if we miss or misunderstand? I.e., does it still happen regardless? I hope you understand my question. Imagine that there are 100 people in a room. Someone walks in and talks about a specific topic for a few minutes. Not everyone in the room will understand what is being discussed. At least one person will, because this person is a "twin" of the one that was speaking. That person can then translate what was spoken to the others. And so it is the same in our perspective. If it is in our perspective then we understand it completely in the way that we need to. (The person speaking was a perspective, and the person translating was also a perspective. Your brain translated it to you, another perspective, and so on. All perspectives.) An understanding could be a mis-understanding, or an order that does not make sense to certain values within our perspective but is still understood regardless in the capacity that it needs to be. Chaol talked before about how some African women perform calculus as they carry heavy loads on their heads. But the part of the woman that understands calculus does not need to be the same part that negotiates the sale of the items. Some values in the woman's perspective need to mis-understand in order for other values to understand. The part performing the calculus may not know how to negotiate a sale, for example. We are comprised of many "parts" or values in our perspective. Some that are aligned with other parts (understanding) and some that are not so aligned (misunderstanding). But even this alignment is natural, as not all values can be aligned the same. By focusing on events we are understanding the event-aligned perspectives (more or less) but mis-understand the process-aligned perspectives. One alignment in the bunch affects all other alignments and relationships. We may not be aligned with something directly, but because we can perceive this alignment we can understand it indirectly. Thus, when one or more values in your perspective "understands" something it may be translated to you. The woman can balance the load on her head (without direct awareness of calculus), our bodies can grow and change, we can think, and whatever. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are not puppets. We are our own perspective. There is no one pulling the strings, save for other parts of ourselves that we do not yet understand. I won't say much about emotions, as we tend to get .. emotional over the topic of what they are. But it would seem that they are interpretation of relationships, rather than things the exist independently. In that way, Logic (and I don't mean rationality) is with Possibility, Symbol, and Interaction. Perhaps you are predestined to get angry at 4 PM, at 3:30 you miss your cab, and 3:45 it rains, at 3:59 you stub your toe super hard. Quoting: Lok 39964291 Feed back from the emotion of anger at 4 PM cause certain events to become more relative that allow you to express anger. If there is no time, and everything has already happened, I wonder how much control we really have. If there is no time, then the events are meaningless. They then become the way in which we perceive of one thing. An interpretation of perspective. If there is no time, then nothing has happened. "Control" is irrelevant. But, yes, there is feedback and feedforward. Not in time but in the relativity of perspective. I will be putting together a chapter on the nature of intuition in my compilation. I believe there is much to be said of this. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the genius is what we already do, manifest our intent, except in a way that has a bit more logic and thus making the manifestation more relative and fast. It helps us focus in on interactions that by normal standards would be irrelevant (because there had not yet been enough interaction to make it relevant)but due to our interactions have become portals of possibility that are easily recognizable and direct us to the outcome of what we desire. I enjoyed reading your description. If we have an intent is it not already manifested? If you are thinking of a jar of coins, has not the symbol already been manifested in your thoughts? The relationships are already there. (Otherwise the thought could not be formed.) Now we only need to relate it more to your physicality (if that's what you're looking for). The Genius is a way to make the jar of coins as relative to us as we want. It brings it from one manifestation (the thought) to another manifestation (the physicality). It need not manifest what is already manifested. It simply allows you to re-interpret and relate what is already there, in your perspective. I think EC is a language that currently is too simple for me to comprehend. it allows us to determine our subjective view of representations so we can know what we are interacting with. For example a red wood might be a symbol for high possibility just like a new car, but without defining it we wouldn't know that it is something in our perspective that has the same relationship as other things we want and thus should be interacted with more. Quoting: LOK 39964291 I've only briefly looked at Ec. But I agree that it is very simple. It is why most of us aren't getting it. Because our nature is to complexify things in our quest to resist nothingness. Ec pushes you to the very edge of perspective. It is not easy to run to the edge of existence and stop just before you reach the abyss of nothingness. We think that if we go there we will fall into it. But actually that's not possible. Our goal is to party right in the middle of it all the illusion, making up all kinds of irrelevant dramas, all the while ignoring what we are surrounded by. Thinking of Ec in English does not work. If I took your television remote and gave you a magic wand, instead, that could take you to any place on your television surely you would not pick up the remote again to try to work the magic wand? But that is what I see most people doing when they approach Ec. They are thinking of Ec from their native language(s). Ec is the language of perspective. Everything is in perspective, and Ec allows us to manipulate our reality. Such a tool would be the most powerful tool you will ever come across. English (or whatever) is language to help us understand and work within a very small subset of the physical world. It's also a powerful tool, but very limited. English does not help you to understand 1+2. For that you need a new set of tools (numbers). We may think of the sound of the number "one" but that's just our language sense getting in the way and wanting to give a familiar sound to everything. We may think it is impossible or difficult to let go of our language when thinking but actually we do that already with numbers. The problem with the langauge is that lots of things seem to be very similar. Lots of things are symbols for interaction, and interactions with possibility, and so on. So maybe the language is just to make us think about how relative something is in terms of each of the elements. Quoting: LOK 39964291 Things appear to be separate in our perspective, but that does not mean that they are separate. Everything is related. Ec relates them because that's more about how they are in perspective. The language has the obvious benefit of making brand new symbols. Making a new word for "excitement when studying" and then using it, would make studying more fun due to the increased interaction. Quoting: LOK 39964291 It's a start to make a symbol for such things, but remember that "excitement when studying" is something we understand from our English-based understanding of the concept. Ec does not work with English but can, if need be, translated into English or whatever language. I still feel like I'm missing something though, which in Chaol's world usually means I'm overthinking and it is simpler than I think. Quoting: LOK 39964291 If you met a genie and he said that he would trade all of your physical possessions, including your body, for 4 beans, would you take it? Only a fool would agree to such an offer! Your first thought may be that you don't know what the beans are for, and thus don't know their value. You also don't know how long they can be used for, nor whom the real owner is. And so in order to understand the world that we make for ourselves we must step back from it, breaking down physicality to find out what remains. Is it difficult to conceptually understand? I would say no. But using it requires letting go of your current definitions for your reality, which is the difficult part. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes and I usually do it when I really like something or really don't like it, lol! Could you be changing things but not remembering how you are doing it (and not aware that you are making the change) because the part of your mind doing the remembering does not understand how you are doing it? I would even say that we are making changes in our own bodies now, but not aware of them. Surely, all of the wonderful things that are going on in our own bodies right now is directed by our brains. Us. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chaol Thanks. I don't know how valid any of that is but I know the best way to keep a secret is to make the "truth" unbelievable. If I wanted to steal your cookie jar I would train a troupe of a dozen monkeys. I would dress each one in Victorian attire. One monkey would even carry a parasol. The monkeys would slowly waltz into your room, making their way over to your cookies. You would not even realize the cookies or the monkeys are gone! 1) Any witness would be too shocked to take action. 2) Any witness would probably not report what they saw 3) There is no risk to training the monkeys. But there is a risk of being caught. Therefore, devote all resources to making each thing you want to get away with as unbelievable as possible. (However, the more it relates to your current reality the more potential for exposure. If the monkeys were naked and began to act like monkeys you would be more aware of what is happening, and be more likely to relay it to others.) There are some realities too strange for even 'conspiracy theorists' to consider. Someone could write a book on it and it will still be hidden. If you want to hide something, hide it from perspective by making it as irrelevant to it as possible. Then people would not even have the language to express the reality. Is this not how we find ourselves now? This is the first time I've seen a whistleblower who is eyewittness to some of it, though. Some of the stuff I believe, I can't mention to most folks....including here in GLP! Interesting, yes we have hidden the language and made it irrevelvant to our perspective. The question is, why? And, I suppose this perception of our governments is a projection of this and why Chaol suggested we look to those closest to us to see what's hidden? The 'actors' are certainly being unveiled more than ever. We are realizing how much the world is a stage. And, ultimately, how your "I" is the entire production. Yes and therefore, all the more interesting to see how convulted we have hidden things. It's out in the open, I would say. What is happening now on the world stage is related. There is no "conspiracy" per se. Our own unwillingness to look, to ask questions, etc., is what keeps things hidden. It's there but we don't want to look. We'd rather believe another story. Both are real, but each have a different degree of relevancy to certain things. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Events vs. Processes Quoting: Chaol As humans, we often look for events when our perspective is "translated" into symbols that we can understand. Events are easy to understand. However, the universe works in terms of processes rather than events. A star, for example, does not just explode. The process occurs over millions, perhaps billions of years. We could try to understand this by observing the event and concluding it is a mystery, but at the same time missing the process that could allow a much more deeper understanding. If you drop a book onto the floor, the human way to look at it is to see it as an event. But there is a much deeper process behind it that encompasses every part of what we call our mind and body but also our own subconscious calculations of physics and calculus, and the total environment (the sound bouncing off of the walls, for example, or the air pressure in the room). So when considering this great shift that many of us have been considering as this era being the time for, it may be more wise to consider the "shift" to [whatever] as a process rather than event. Processes take time. On the Ecsys website Chaol mentioned that the transition to the dream world would be from 2001-2013, with 2013 being the years that everyone thought 2012 would be. (I take this as meaning, "Yes. There is a change coming. But not when and how you expect it to occur.") Obviously, this "shift" is a process rather than a single event or series of events. Importantly, we mustn't miss the most important aspect of processes: relationships. For example, with the recent four X flares from the sun we could look at each separately, or exclaim that having 4 close together is rather rare. This still considers the shifts that are happening now to be events rather than processes. Chaol encourages us to consider relationships more deeply. The relationships between what you consider to be "you" and the other things in your perspective, for example. If we take the above solar example we would not care so much about the X flare and its effect on our own development but the relationship between each X flare and the others as being the process through which changes can occur. I'm not saying that the X flares are the superwave that Chaol was talking about, but it's just an example. Chaol often said to look to the sun and that the sun was representative of our physicality. I've also noticed that "nexus points" coincide with Earth-directed solar activity. (How this was predicted I still have no idea. But I suppose everyone happens at once.) The sun, to me, is all of the elements (logic, possibility, etc.) but particularly it is an exercise of Possibility from our Earth perspective. If the sun is representative of our physicality then it is also representative of changes in our physicality. These changes are processes, and these processes happen via relationships. And relationships are interpreted by our perspective. So the changes could be different for each of us, and each part of our perspective. The point of all this is that we would do well to not forget how important the process is in this great "shift". By focusing on the events we could miss what is happening, and misunderstand what is happening. Ha! I gave this same advice a couple of days ago...well, about by focusing on something, we might miss something else.....then I read the same advice in a book a few days later....and now, you're saying it here. I must be telling myself something, eh? My interest is, since I am in charge of my perspective (well, I'm learning, let's put it that way), then why can't I be in charge of the process too? The Genius not called a genie by accident. All I (or anyone) needs, is something as logical to you, for the changes to happen. With this in mind, it seems there are infinite choices we have to perceive the changes we feel are necessary. Which part of yourself do you wish to be "in charge"? The curious part or the part that knows what it is doing? heh That's why it is good to learn how we do it, so that we can realize we are in complete control of our perspective all along. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Unit3 Doesn't matter. You got the 17th nexus energy connected to it. Now, keep doing the exercises you feel to do. The seller can easily change his mind. If the seller is focused upon the car itself may become unfocused. Aha! Another post on focus. A post that I didn't quite get btw... Did you? When we focus on things that we want, they are already manifested. No need to have them manifest more (in a physical way, for example), unless there are other factors involved. By focusing on getting the car (event) rather than what surrounds it (process) it actually becomes unfocused. To focus on getting the car you must focus on what is "around" the car rather than the car itself. If there is a splotch on the wall that we want to cover up with paint we need to paint the whole wall. Otherwise we may wonder why it is not to our expectation. With the car, there were other factors in play that you may not have been paying attention to. Relate to those things off to the side and the thing you are focusing on becomes balanced. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I'd like to ask is, Quoting: Marshwiggle If I am working with the Genius, with a specific aim in mind, is there any point in changing it regularly, as with the Expanded Perspective Exercise, Chaol? So, for example, I've got a newly made SYMBOL, the POSSIBILITY is it's attached to my mobile, the INTERACTION is with all the people I've got numbers for, and the LOGIC is I sniff my symbol (! - it's got a bit of incense in it) each time I turn my phone on what I'm wondering is, is there a benefit to in a couple of days, keeping the SYMBOL and changing the other elements? You would need a new symbol when you change the other elements. (Otherwise your sub-conscious will get 'confused'.) Also, the more symbols the better. But of course you can start with one symbol. For clarity, Chaol, is there a benefit in regularly changing the elements of a Genius, while keeping the same intention for it? And, are you also suggesting that many symbols (Geniuses?) for the same intention is a good idea? I've been looking for an answer to this question. The more symbols the better suggests to me to break down your desire into several Genius maps. Is this correct? Or can we use several symbols in the same space with the same Genius? Quantity is not important. What matters is the relativity (or power) of the symbols. The weaker the symbols the more you may need to use to get to your destination. And the converse is true. Imagine them like stepping-stones. Make sure they're relative (strong) or you could step into the marsh. Make sure you jump high enough to the big ones, otherwise you may be hanging onto it by your fingers wondering what happened. (Note: the Genius is the process of using the 4 elements to work to changing your perspective. Symbols are one of the 4 elements. By using your genius you are using a symbol married with the other 3 elements.) Starting out, weaker symbols are likely to be created. These will work just fine for most intents and purposes. Our realities are made up of mostly weak symbols, interspersed by stronger symbols. (This will change the better you get at it.) |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: tuuuuur I had told you (in an earlier post) that the seller could change his mind. Chaol then told us that if we focus on the seller, the car goes out of focus. So, my understanding, is to keep interacting with the car and don't worry about the seller. Chaol wanted you to figure out how you can get the car for free. It's still possible, I think. If the car is yours, what are you doing with it? How is it relating to the old owner? How could it better relate to the old owner? And can you make this happen now, in a small way? |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaol and my other amigos, Quoting: LOKIE DOKIE SMOKIE 39964291 I have wondered this for a while and would appreciate any thoughts. The logic surrounding a Genius model is best when random because it helps focus perspective. --- For example, if you interact with a new symbol that is a New hot bod, and sniff it 10 times every so often, because you never ever sniff something 10 times in a row, your subconscious can much easier recognize that you are interacting with what you're saying represents and is your new hot bod. I am wondering if you should link that logic to something already known to be a symbol for what you want. So let's say every time you do a bench press you sniff your symbol 10 times. Do you think that helps make your goal more relative than let's say sniffing it every time you see a blue car? (Assuming both events are of equal frequency) Thanks in advance for your input. In Lak'ech Ala K'in Same logic = same perspective. So yes, Logic helps to focus perspective. And there are an endless variety of perspectives. "I am wondering if you should link that logic to something already known to be a symbol for what you want." - And what part of you is sure that it is a symbol for what you want and the way to get to the desired experience? |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chaol "we apologize for this figure but it will make more sense later". I have seen this plan. I now understand how people can be influenced through their dream-scape. And their intuition. It is quite ingenious. A reverse trojan horse, so to speak. But one that destroys much, including the host. When a feeling comes from your gut, or a vision, can you work against it? So much is unraveling now. A dis-ease from within. All symbolic, of course. I was JUST thinking about this (Shabazz), and wanting you to talk more about it... How do you kill the virus, without killing the host? It's a change of perspective. The virus and the host are the same. You don't mean that virus=host but that without host there is no virus and without virus there is no host? Both being components of the whole not separate? To be a host, one must have guests(or be planning on them)? "without host there is no virus and without virus there is no host" would imply that they are of the same perspective. Two ways of looking at the same one. One thing interpreted in two ways. If the host cannot host the virus, then it is a different "host" that is irrelevant to it. The two are most relative to each other. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Chaol, Quoting: Seeker34 Can you expand on how people can be influenced through their dream-scape and intuition? Sounds a lot like inception actually... Everything is a value in your perspective. You can influence "ancient Rome" because it is a value in your perspective. (As in, it is happening right now rather than in the distant past.) How does one influence a value in your perspective? The same way you do for anything else. You speak of a plan. Who is there to make the plan I wonder? And what is the end result of this plan do you think? Quoting: Seeker34 Also, you waking up and seeing "other Chaol" doing and saying things without "your" knowledge reminds me of Fight Club. Why all the movie allusions? Also I was wondering about the key to astrology/mythology that you referred to earlier, can you expand on that? Sounds like something Id like in my perspective :) Seeker34 I was referring to Chaol's plan of making a reverse-Trojan horse through dreamworld influence, in order to destroy certain perspectives (massive shift). But, again, Chaol is a value in your perspective. What is the end result? As a process, just new perspectives. The events are not so important, but they could help us to understand the process if we are paying attention. I am having a much greater awareness of what is being done and said (has been done and said). Movies are one way that we tell stories. To take movies that many readers here know is an easy way to relate understanding. But I would not have used "Fight Club" as an example ;) for your question on "the key to astrology/mythology", please clarify. Thanks! Last Edited by Chaol on 05/21/2013 02:09 AM |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Quoting: LOKIE 39964291 MMM, here we go. Names low-key I'm the master host, always in control but never boast. The anticipation in me starts to howl, just as I stumble upon my main man who's name is Chaol. Al of a sudden my mind starts to freak What's this about a some alternate new way to speak? Always concise and affective, uniting and connective Just one big collective in an all encompassing perspective. U3 just reflective, helping to make my world more subjective. It's as easy as one two three five, Here we go virus start to come alive. Guidance from above meant to unite us all in love. Look for X cuz it's always the mark and it's taking off with just one lil spark. Love has already won and you know that's the plan even if that shit comes and hits the fan. I tell ya no use gettin bent unless that's always been your intent. Thank you for the burst of creative prose :) |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way.. someone asked previously about what drugs were best. I don't want to give the impression that anything I am experiencing is influenced by any sort of drug. Quoting: Chaol Actually, I've never willingly tried anything psychotropic. For me, this includes marijuana, tobacco, caffeine, alcohol, and of course all other 'hard' drugs. Surprisingly, I've never had a cup of coffee or a beer before. (I consider these drugs, also. Ok, you can stop laughing now!) I would also add aspartame and some other neurotoxins such as fluoride (and their variants) to the list. I would not want anything to impair my thinking with certain drugs (even though food is a drug, nutrient, and chemical-delivery mechanism, it's of a different sort). I don't know if this is Chaol-influenced but I can certainly see the benefit of being as clear-thinking as possible. In one of my visions recently I could see that pretty much everyone in the US was under the influence of these drugs, especially through water. I fortunately or (unfortunately) am of the USA and subject to an environment rich in psychotropics and my experiences through my life reflect that. From my perspective, these are very relative to understanding how we come to perceive (perhaps I'm getting defensive). From about 16-28(31 now), I was a guinea pig for many psychiatrists and I'm sure I've been prescribed (at one time or another) every medication available to treat bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety attacks. It was only when I realized that my "illness" was a definition of symptoms brought on by my own "careless" thinking that I quit them cold turkey and shortly after fell into a quest to understand it all. I am still willingly infected by many of your listed psychotropics. I've found (perhaps incorrectly) that high purity and high corruption are very relative and dependent upon one another. I don't see anything wrong with it, if you don't mind it. As I mentioned, food is also a drug. By eating we are relating to the consciousness of the food. It's the same with drugs. (Though some drugs can develop stronger relations.) Purity and corruption are perhaps misnomers. It's probably more of "what does this relate to?" As Chaol mentioned, oxygen is deadly to some life forms. What works for one may not work for another, depending on what is relative. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy shabazz! Quoting: VersionTwo How did we miss this news development??? Grandson of Malcom X killed in Mexico Thread: Malcolm Shabazz son of Malcolm X killed 2012 is when the lights come on, and the actors begin to be exposed for what they are. Quoting: Chaol It starts with the son of Malcolm Little (Shabazz) and his 60's fling and her extended family (all of these actors what you would call "CIA" and related operatives, each serving a grand purpose). I mentioned previosly that "we apologize" for this figure but "it will make more sense later". Now is the time. When a fascinating story is exposed then the branches of it come to light, along with actors' multiple characters and scenes. Your reality breaks down at this level, the stage crumbles. You no longer know what to believe. "As above, so below"; the world that you thought you knew so well suddenly becomes mysterious. The dream world opens. 'Truth' stranger than fiction. Why does it happen? The illustration of this unknown truth in physically-oriented exposures dictates the grandest illusion. Your perspective creates actors reading from this single script in response. The more popular it is (seemily good or not) the more likely it is to be a child of this illusion. Be it Coke, McDonald's, Facebook, Google, current affairs, Gaga, or whatever the 'hottest' person or thing is. There is no conspiracy save for the illusion of your own perspective. Welcome to the dream world. Didn't you know you were already here? (And could you imagine how 2012 would play out?) Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 74) "we apologize for this figure but it will make more sense later". I have seen this plan. I now understand how people can be influenced through their dream-scape. And their intuition. It is quite ingenious. A reverse trojan horse, so to speak. But one that destroys much, including the host. When a feeling comes from your gut, or a vision, can you work against it? So much is unraveling now. A dis-ease from within. All symbolic, of course. Very interesting. I have understood plenty of programming has been happening for quite some time. What's interesting is my Genius plan (for myself right now) but I use an Ec string for everyone......is to affect the dream-scape (since everyone is involved in it), so that all remember. A healing from within. All in our own perspective, of course. |
Chaol User ID: 1165113 France 05/21/2013 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way.. someone asked previously about what drugs were best. I don't want to give the impression that anything I am experiencing is influenced by any sort of drug. Quoting: Chaol Actually, I've never willingly tried anything psychotropic. For me, this includes marijuana, tobacco, caffeine, alcohol, and of course all other 'hard' drugs. Surprisingly, I've never had a cup of coffee or a beer before. (I consider these drugs, also. Ok, you can stop laughing now!) I would also add aspartame and some other neurotoxins such as fluoride (and their variants) to the list. I would not want anything to impair my thinking with certain drugs (even though food is a drug, nutrient, and chemical-delivery mechanism, it's of a different sort). I don't know if this is Chaol-influenced but I can certainly see the benefit of being as clear-thinking as possible. In one of my visions recently I could see that pretty much everyone in the US was under the influence of these drugs, especially through water. I have been drinking filtered, reverse osmosis or distilled water for probably 20 years. I haven't even been exposed to it much through showers or baths because I've usually had a home water filter. I wonder about the rain that waters food we eat, though? Much of the water we consume comes to us through our food. So if your food (or other beverages) has water that has neurotoxins such as fluoride but you drink water without, you can still get a dose of it. It depends on how you relate to it, I suppose. Certain drugs and chemicals may improve the lives of others. |
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Suisse24K User ID: 39003367 United States 05/21/2013 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If the sun is representative of our physicality. And if gold is an Earthly, physical representation of the Sun.. what might it all mean?" Quoting: Suisse24K 39003367 A question for the alchemists Hey Chaol, Chaol once talked about something related to philosopher's stone. I don't know if it was that or something else in that nature. What was it? He asked someone information about it briefly. Like how your ever seen or touched it. And lets assume gold is solidified sunlight or sun gas / rays? If one was to build a genius model to represent a philosophers stone or a box that turns sun light into solid gold. What do you expect that perspective will perceive? What ever takes the less energy. Perspective digs up treasure that turns out to be gold or philosophers stone. Or he invents a device that solidifies sun light. I guess its all perspective. any tips? |
Quest I On User ID: 39003367 United States 05/21/2013 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so in order to understand the world that we make for ourselves we must step back from it, breaking down physicality to find out what remains. Quoting: Chaol Is it difficult to conceptually understand? I would say no. But using it requires letting go of your current definitions for your reality, which is the difficult part. How has your perspective perceived the processes of "letting go of your current definitions for your reality" What changes can you summarizes. You had much to consider. Say your in the process of letting go of your current definitions for your reality, what changes does one perspective experience? > How soon will your perspective share a summary of your attempts at Ec? > How soon will the original version Chaol be present (2013)? And which Chaol is the original? > |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23635979 Netherlands 05/21/2013 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had told you (in an earlier post) that the seller could change his mind. Chaol then told us that if we focus on the seller, the car goes out of focus. So, my understanding, is to keep interacting with the car and don't worry about the seller. Chaol wanted you to figure out how you can get the car for free. It's still possible, I think. If the car is yours, what are you doing with it? How is it relating to the old owner? How could it better relate to the old owner? And can you make this happen now, in a small way? At this moment, I am not thinking that much about the car any more, other than that its picture is still my smartphone's lock screen. These last days I have been giving my financial situation some positive attention... spreadsheets with income and payments etc. Plus taking action so we don't get a bailiff (is that the correct word?) at our door. |