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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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All that can be said at this time has been said.
 Quoting: Chaol


Hmmm, I felt we just began... ;-)

Take care, hope to see you again later on!
 Quoting: tuuuuur




I felt it had just begun myself. I guess another version of Chaol is called for....he told us he would provide narrative during transition and that he would always find a way to communicate with us. So, I already am interacting with a symbol of him. No telling what will show up in a day or 2, heh!!!!

I've been reading about becoming a citizen of Germany. I thought I might qualify since my grandparents migrated from there. But, it looks like I won't!

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All that can be said at this time has been said.
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Hmmm, I felt we just began... ;-)

Take care, hope to see you again later on!
 Quoting: tuuuuur


I feel the same.
Now I am like the kid who just dropped the ice cream...

Chaol, I hope that you will be lurking in the background to check on our progress! hf
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All that can be said at this time has been said.
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Hmmm, I felt we just began... ;-)

Take care, hope to see you again later on!
 Quoting: tuuuuur




I felt it had just begun myself. I guess another version of Chaol is called for....he told us he would provide narrative during transition and that he would always find a way to communicate with us. So, I already am interacting with a symbol of him. No telling what will show up in a day or 2, heh!!!!

I've been reading about becoming a citizen of Germany. I thought I might qualify since my grandparents migrated from there. But, it looks like I won't!
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So how about becoming a dutch citizen? ;)
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All that can be said at this time has been said.
 Quoting: Chaol


Hmmm, I felt we just began... ;-)

Take care, hope to see you again later on!
 Quoting: tuuuuur




I felt it had just begun myself. I guess another version of Chaol is called for....he told us he would provide narrative during transition and that he would always find a way to communicate with us. So, I already am interacting with a symbol of him. No telling what will show up in a day or 2, heh!!!!

I've been reading about becoming a citizen of Germany. I thought I might qualify since my grandparents migrated from there. But, it looks like I won't!
 Quoting: U3


So how about becoming a dutch citizen? ;)
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That would be the easiest for me since I'm married to a Dutch man. However, we aren't together so I'd have to finance the whole thing myself. My Genius hasn't produced the funds yet!
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All that can be said at this time has been said.
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Hmmm, I felt we just began... ;-)

Take care, hope to see you again later on!
 Quoting: tuuuuur


I feel the same.
Now I am like the kid who just dropped the ice cream...

Chaol, I hope that you will be lurking in the background to check on our progress! hf
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In the meantime, we have enough Neo's, that read these threads, that can contribute quite a bit!!!!!
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Wtf..I'm confused. Why are you quoting yourself? How many f Chaol is there? Is one allowed to duplicate an already existing nickname in GLP??

Are you the Thai person he hijacked the shell? 300 over pages discussing and regurgitating the same thing over and over again to come to this realization is really strange.

I knew there sruwas something fishy. Not that I went straight to the last page. I'm actually still on page 180 something but I keep seeing Chaol repeating (spoon feeding) his teachings in different analogies, I thought I'd take a quick peek on the more recent replies to see if anyone has manage to go back in time :P by using Ecsys.

Has the Atheist left this world for good?? Or is he looking for a suitable body to hijack?

If you're reading this "the real Chaol". You're welcome to use my body for awhile. I'll be waiting for you in my dream. Just dont forget to lift the toilet seat up when taking a piss...

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Certainly!
 Quoting: Chaol


I am totally freaked out!

The past couple of days of my life has being really strange without being over exaggerating.

Suddenly I feel like the world is revolving around 'me'. Its like it needed my validation to exist. Dreamlike if I may. Everyone seems like characters in my own movie and me being the main cast at the centre of everything. I feel naked literally and really weird.

I also kinda think and talk like what you would sound like in your threads.

Logic based on a perspective I am not seperated from all I perceive.

I notice the relationship of things around me become more clearer. Like they actually know they're part of my perspective. A dream so real I'm finding hard to disbelieve. This has been going on for ages I believe but now I'm kinda finding out why. Consciously dreaming if I may. The result of my carefree existence being a precursor to realizing the science behind it.

Thank you Chaol!

Pip Squeak
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This morning I dreamt that I was sleeping and somehow felt whenever I try to wake up, a jolt of insecurity like the fear of dying engulfed me.

Everytime I try waking up in my dream while being asleep in my dream I couldn't because of this fear of dying.

I wish I could describe it much better but this is the best way I can.

Wtf all this suddenly? I used to not remember anything I dream but now it's getting heavy.
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This morning I dreamt that I was sleeping and somehow felt whenever I try to wake up, a jolt of insecurity like the fear of dying engulfed me.

Everytime I try waking up in my dream while being asleep in my dream I couldn't because of this fear of dying.

I wish I could describe it much better but this is the best way I can.

Wtf all this suddenly? I used to not remember anything I dream but now it's getting heavy.
 Quoting: Pip Squeak





Welcome to Chaol's world. afro
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All that can be said at this time has been said.

It has been a pleasure communicating with all of you and discussing these things.

My awareness of practically everything under the sun has increased exponentially since day 1, and you all have something to do with that.

That you for being a part of my journey, and I am glad to be a part of yours and know that deep down it is our single journey.

Some things will not make sense just yet, but it is there to be understood if we relate to it. And so time marches on, and new worlds are conveyed. We will always have perspective, so let us use it wisely.

With great hope and happiness, I will see some of you in a few months.

Take care :)
 Quoting: Chaol


hf
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[snips]
I notice the relationship of things around me become more clearer. Like they actually know they're part of my perspective.
[snips]

Pip Squeak
peace
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I really like this!
Tomorrow I'll interact keeping this in mind. Thanks.

[still up, awfully late at night... downloading Ubuntu...]
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[snips]
I notice the relationship of things around me become more clearer. Like they actually know they're part of my perspective.
[snips]

Pip Squeak
peace
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I really like this!
Tomorrow I'll interact keeping this in mind. Thanks.

[still up, awfully late at night... downloading Ubuntu...]
 Quoting: Ambra 42438075




Good luck. Let me know what you think.
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It's too bad Chaol has left us again, this didn't occur to me until after he had left:

I kept getting tripped up around the original "sounds" assigned to the neuronicons and I let it keep me from adequately assigning an auditory component to beyond just about 12 or so characters. I'll spare you all the other junk I tried before coming to this...

Ok put as simply as I possibly can.. I decided that the neuronicons should(could) sound like this:

For symbol:
+S "Sigh" (S+(High-H)) represented better imo as "Si"
S "Sue" (S+(Neutral -Ntral)) represented better imo as "Su"
-S "Sow" (S+(Low-L)) represented better imo as "So"

iNteraction:
+I "Nigh" (N+(High-H)) represented better imo as "Ni"
I "New" (N+(Neutral -Ntral)) represented better imo as "Nu"
-I "No" (N+(Low-L)) represented better imo as "No"

Possibility:
+P "Pie" (P+(High-H)) represented better imo as "Pi"
P "Poo" (P+(Neutral -Ntral)) represented better imo as "Pu"
-P "Poh" (P+(Low-L)) represented better imo as "Po"

Logic:
+L "Lie" (L+(High-H)) represented better imo as "Li"
L "Lue" (L+(Neutral -Ntral)) represented better imo as "Lu"
-L "Low" (L+(Low-L)) represented better imo as "Lo"


So, now we have a way to think +S/S that isn't "A" as in cAt. The auditory component of +S/S could now be written as "SiSu" and pronounced almost as it looks, "sigh-sue". "OO" like in tOO would now be "SiNu" pronounced Sigh-New and more obviously mean +S/I. Etc... simple right?

Btw, these are used EXACTLY as any one (or more) component(s) of "The Genius".

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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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MM, your chart is impressive. I'm still thinking about it so I don't have a comment yet. I like the idea of spelling them more phonetically! Thanks for sharing this. hf



OK, since I'm changing everything, in how I relate to the internet, I'm going to delete Gumpy (and all my blogs)) in the coming days. (I've had my email account since I got on the internet, 10-11 years ago, sigh! It's going too.)

So, if anyone wants any of the links to Ecsys materials, now is the time to grab them. As far as I know, I have all the links to the various Ecsys materials found on the net. And Pip Squeak, you might want to take a look at the archived Ecsys websites linked there. I think you will go nuts over them!

[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
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All that can be said at this time has been said.

It has been a pleasure communicating with all of you and discussing these things.

My awareness of practically everything under the sun has increased exponentially since day 1, and you all have something to do with that.

That you for being a part of my journey, and I am glad to be a part of yours and know that deep down it is our single journey.

Some things will not make sense just yet, but it is there to be understood if we relate to it. And so time marches on, and new worlds are conveyed. We will always have perspective, so let us use it wisely.

With great hope and happiness, I will see some of you in a few months.

Take care :)
 Quoting: Chaol


Thanks for every thing Chaol hf
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Haha..

Just feel like I'm at the center of the universe. My universe that is.

I swears I didn't read any of the post before me when I posted my last message.

Which also includes Chaol's short departure message.

I know, you think I'm joking. He'll be back in a few months as he'd said so.

Go and realize your dreams guys!

He's probably spreading the teaching in another shell...so to speak.
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MM, your chart is impressive. I'm still thinking about it so I don't have a comment yet. I like the idea of spelling them more phonetically! Thanks for sharing this. hf



OK, since I'm changing everything, in how I relate to the internet, I'm going to delete Gumpy (and all my blogs)) in the coming days. (I've had my email account since I got on the internet, 10-11 years ago, sigh! It's going too.)

So, if anyone wants any of the links to Ecsys materials, now is the time to grab them. As far as I know, I have all the links to the various Ecsys materials found on the net. And Pip Squeak, you might want to take a look at the archived Ecsys websites linked there. I think you will go nuts over them!

[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
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Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
The future owes the past the present..
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MM, your chart is impressive. I'm still thinking about it so I don't have a comment yet. I like the idea of spelling them more phonetically! Thanks for sharing this. hf



OK, since I'm changing everything, in how I relate to the internet, I'm going to delete Gumpy (and all my blogs)) in the coming days. (I've had my email account since I got on the internet, 10-11 years ago, sigh! It's going too.)

So, if anyone wants any of the links to Ecsys materials, now is the time to grab them. As far as I know, I have all the links to the various Ecsys materials found on the net. And Pip Squeak, you might want to take a look at the archived Ecsys websites linked there. I think you will go nuts over them!

[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I'd say I am part of your perspective, heh!!!!

I started out with a nickname of Unit3. I pretended I was an ET unit sent to Earth. It also sounds like Unity.

Then after several months, I shortened to U3....can't really remember why other than I like to change things up every so often. What surprises me is how often I get asked about my nickname and how 'others' have so many ideas about it.

So, wanna tell me about yours? ;o)

Getting rid of a perspective that bothers you? How are you planning on doing that, if you don't mind me asking. I have several options I use, with varying degrees of success.

I think you will like looking at the Ec charts, the 4 forces chart and the Code of Ecsys on the archived websites...among other goodies to be found there.

In fact, once you learn how to use the Ec language, it won't take you a day to make an element of your perspective irrelevant.
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All that can be said at this time has been said.

It has been a pleasure communicating with all of you and discussing these things.

My awareness of practically everything under the sun has increased exponentially since day 1, and you all have something to do with that.

That you for being a part of my journey, and I am glad to be a part of yours and know that deep down it is our single journey.

Some things will not make sense just yet, but it is there to be understood if we relate to it. And so time marches on, and new worlds are conveyed. We will always have perspective, so let us use it wisely.

With great hope and happiness, I will see some of you in a few months.

Take care :)
 Quoting: Chaol



Hi Chaol, I thought you were putting all your material into a book? What happened with that?
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All that can be said at this time has been said.

It has been a pleasure communicating with all of you and discussing these things.

My awareness of practically everything under the sun has increased exponentially since day 1, and you all have something to do with that.

That you for being a part of my journey, and I am glad to be a part of yours and know that deep down it is our single journey.

Some things will not make sense just yet, but it is there to be understood if we relate to it. And so time marches on, and new worlds are conveyed. We will always have perspective, so let us use it wisely.

With great hope and happiness, I will see some of you in a few months.

Take care :)
 Quoting: Chaol


hf
 Quoting: Gespenst


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All that can be said at this time has been said.

It has been a pleasure communicating with all of you and discussing these things.

My awareness of practically everything under the sun has increased exponentially since day 1, and you all have something to do with that.

That you for being a part of my journey, and I am glad to be a part of yours and know that deep down it is our single journey.

Some things will not make sense just yet, but it is there to be understood if we relate to it. And so time marches on, and new worlds are conveyed. We will always have perspective, so let us use it wisely.

With great hope and happiness, I will see some of you in a few months.

Take care :)
 Quoting: Chaol



Hi Chaol, I thought you were putting all your material into a book? What happened with that?
 Quoting: VersionTwo




The last I heard, he will be releasing 4 pdf's in November.
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MM, your chart is impressive. I'm still thinking about it so I don't have a comment yet. I like the idea of spelling them more phonetically! Thanks for sharing this. hf



OK, since I'm changing everything, in how I relate to the internet, I'm going to delete Gumpy (and all my blogs)) in the coming days. (I've had my email account since I got on the internet, 10-11 years ago, sigh! It's going too.)

So, if anyone wants any of the links to Ecsys materials, now is the time to grab them. As far as I know, I have all the links to the various Ecsys materials found on the net. And Pip Squeak, you might want to take a look at the archived Ecsys websites linked there. I think you will go nuts over them!

[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I'd say I am part of your perspective, heh!!!!

I started out with a nickname of Unit3. I pretended I was an ET unit sent to Earth. It also sounds like Unity.

Then after several months, I shortened to U3....can't really remember why other than I like to change things up every so often. What surprises me is how often I get asked about my nickname and how 'others' have so many ideas about it.

So, wanna tell me about yours? ;o)

Getting rid of a perspective that bothers you? How are you planning on doing that, if you don't mind me asking. I have several options I use, with varying degrees of success.

I think you will like looking at the Ec charts, the 4 forces chart and the Code of Ecsys on the archived websites...among other goodies to be found there.

In fact, once you learn how to use the Ec language, it won't take you a day to make an element of your perspective irrelevant.
 Quoting: U3


The number 3 holds a special place in my heart. It's because I was born on the 3rd day of the month. It's the number of mystics and also the eldest of odds. I always felt being heavens dearest ;)(dunno if this makes sense). Lucky perhaps?

Please do share any short cut mind exercises which I can practice immediately to change my perspective. As of now, I am just making anything which needs my dire attention (important urgent matters) irrelevant up to the last minute. I'm a last minute kinda guy. I don't think or worry too much of my problems up to the last minute. Kinda carefree with life. It's nothing to be proud of. Infact, I feel certain things needs planning so Sdoesn'tHTF later on. But once I've mastered the genius, I believe great things are destine for me. Just need to procrastinate a couple of days more till I finally get to sit down and absorbed all that I've plan to read and practice.

Thank you my dear perspective for the kind gesture..I wish your life transcends immediately into the dreamworld you've always dream of ;)

peace
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MM, your chart is impressive. I'm still thinking about it so I don't have a comment yet. I like the idea of spelling them more phonetically! Thanks for sharing this. hf



OK, since I'm changing everything, in how I relate to the internet, I'm going to delete Gumpy (and all my blogs)) in the coming days. (I've had my email account since I got on the internet, 10-11 years ago, sigh! It's going too.)

So, if anyone wants any of the links to Ecsys materials, now is the time to grab them. As far as I know, I have all the links to the various Ecsys materials found on the net. And Pip Squeak, you might want to take a look at the archived Ecsys websites linked there. I think you will go nuts over them!

[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I'd say I am part of your perspective, heh!!!!

I started out with a nickname of Unit3. I pretended I was an ET unit sent to Earth. It also sounds like Unity.

Then after several months, I shortened to U3....can't really remember why other than I like to change things up every so often. What surprises me is how often I get asked about my nickname and how 'others' have so many ideas about it.

So, wanna tell me about yours? ;o)

Getting rid of a perspective that bothers you? How are you planning on doing that, if you don't mind me asking. I have several options I use, with varying degrees of success.

I think you will like looking at the Ec charts, the 4 forces chart and the Code of Ecsys on the archived websites...among other goodies to be found there.

In fact, once you learn how to use the Ec language, it won't take you a day to make an element of your perspective irrelevant.
 Quoting: U3


The number 3 holds a special place in my heart. It's because I was born on the 3rd day of the month. It's the number of mystics and also the eldest of odds. I always felt being heavens dearest ;)(dunno if this makes sense). Lucky perhaps?

Please do share any short cut mind exercises which I can practice immediately to change my perspective. As of now, I am just making anything which needs my dire attention (important urgent matters) irrelevant up to the last minute. I'm a last minute kinda guy. I don't think or worry too much of my problems up to the last minute. Kinda carefree with life. It's nothing to be proud of. Infact, I feel certain things needs planning so Sdoesn'tHTF later on. But once I've mastered the genius, I believe great things are destine for me. Just need to procrastinate a couple of days more till I finally get to sit down and absorbed all that I've plan to read and practice.

Thank you my dear perspective for the kind gesture..I wish your life transcends immediately into the dreamworld you've always dream of ;)
The future owes the past the present..
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MM, your chart is impressive. I'm still thinking about it so I don't have a comment yet. I like the idea of spelling them more phonetically! Thanks for sharing this. hf



OK, since I'm changing everything, in how I relate to the internet, I'm going to delete Gumpy (and all my blogs)) in the coming days. (I've had my email account since I got on the internet, 10-11 years ago, sigh! It's going too.)

So, if anyone wants any of the links to Ecsys materials, now is the time to grab them. As far as I know, I have all the links to the various Ecsys materials found on the net. And Pip Squeak, you might want to take a look at the archived Ecsys websites linked there. I think you will go nuts over them!

[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I'd say I am part of your perspective, heh!!!!

I started out with a nickname of Unit3. I pretended I was an ET unit sent to Earth. It also sounds like Unity.

Then after several months, I shortened to U3....can't really remember why other than I like to change things up every so often. What surprises me is how often I get asked about my nickname and how 'others' have so many ideas about it.

So, wanna tell me about yours? ;o)

Getting rid of a perspective that bothers you? How are you planning on doing that, if you don't mind me asking. I have several options I use, with varying degrees of success.

I think you will like looking at the Ec charts, the 4 forces chart and the Code of Ecsys on the archived websites...among other goodies to be found there.

In fact, once you learn how to use the Ec language, it won't take you a day to make an element of your perspective irrelevant.
 Quoting: U3


The number 3 holds a special place in my heart. It's because I was born on the 3rd day of the month. It's the number of mystics and also the eldest of odds. I always felt being heavens dearest ;)(dunno if this makes sense). Lucky perhaps?

Please do share any short cut mind exercises which I can practice immediately to change my perspective. As of now, I am just making anything which needs my dire attention (important urgent matters) irrelevant up to the last minute. I'm a last minute kinda guy. I don't think or worry too much of my problems up to the last minute. Kinda carefree with life. It's nothing to be proud of. Infact, I feel certain things needs planning so Sdoesn'tHTF later on. But once I've mastered the genius, I believe great things are destine for me. Just need to procrastinate a couple of days more till I finally get to sit down and absorbed all that I've plan to read and practice.

Thank you my dear perspective for the kind gesture..I wish your life transcends immediately into the dreamworld you've always dream of ;)
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




hf

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Some reminders relative to Neo.Chaol's "current" direction with the thread.:
Hello Chaol, just want to thank you for one of the most interesting threads I've ever read. However, when you say:


You could convert sound, gamma rays, and other as-yet-undiscovered waves all you want but if you don't find a new way to cultivate a culture that does not care so much about endless profits then it will be all for naught.
How can we get rid of the parasitic oligarchy that rules this planet and refuses to allow advanced energy technologies?

How do you deal with a murderous kleptocracy (international banksters, oil companies, big pharma, military/industrial complex, etc.) that controls everything from medicine to the media?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090656


Greetings!

Perhaps I should have typed, "if YOU don't find a new way to cultivate a culture that does not care so much about endless profits then it will be all for naught"

Here's where I go into a longged discussion about "who's perceiving these things you mention" and "how can we change what is perceived?"

The real question may be, "Why do we resist our perceptions?"

What do you think?
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


I think you're trying to say we create our own reality.

Well, after living for 5 decades on this messed-up planet, I'm ready for another experience. But it seems easier said than done.

What am I missing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090656


Hmmm!

It's probably much more simple than is thought.

As I suggested above, we may often resist our perceptions. It sounds as though you may be doing a bit of that.

The more something is resisted the greater the likelihood that it would be further experienced.

Resistance is a type of focus.

I wouldn't really say that we create our own reality. I don't believe that would be accurate if we're talking about such things. However, it's easy enough to say and it conveys the general direction of the idea, I think.

The interesting thing is that out of 100 people that say it, no one can tell you how

Thanks!
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


I think you're trying to say we create our own reality.

Well, after living for 5 decades on this messed-up planet, I'm ready for another experience. But it seems easier said than done.

What am I missing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090656


Again!

Like most of us, you probably do things routinely. Every day you walk, talk, chew, look, drive, sleep, etc., the same way.

And thus, think, dream, perceive, and have pretty much the same kinds of experiences. And the world seems the same.

What would happen if, over the period of 1 week, you did things in a way you could not have predicted?

How much do you think your perspective (and world) would change?
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


What would happen if, over the period of 1 week, you did things in a way you could not have predicted?

Not trying to be obtuse, but give me an example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090656


For example!

Getting dressed for no reason and going outside with no particular goal in mind. When a thought occurs to you, carry it out (if you can safely).

Introduce randomness into your life for a short period of time. This will seem completely crazy, of course, but it will have the effect of causing you to dramatically shift perspective.

When your immediate environment interacts in the same way every day, you end up with pretty much the same representations.

Everything today is fairly similar to yesterday because that's how you have it set up.

Replace the structure you've built up over the years with a new set of rules in order to experience a different result.

Introducing the randomness weakens the structure you have already. Just be sure to introduce a new structure. Often, the structure is the routine that we go through at each moment.

Some examples: sleep next to the refrigerator for a night, skip to work, wrap speaker wire around your legs, call someone randomly, imitate the next animal you see, cook up a pot of sugar, wear crazy clothes or a fake mustache... all for no reason whatsoever.

Yes, it's crazy. But you need some crazy sauce in order to bring out the flavor of the new perspective.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


Even though it feels difficult to embrace the government industrial complex's wars, lies, and corruption along with their poisoning the air, water and food, as a thought experiment, I'll give it a try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090656


There will always be drama.

Attraction and repulsion is the nature of consciousness.

The problem arises when we think attraction and repulsion are two separate forces.

We may think that we're not attracted to the things we seem to hate, for example.

I'm suggesting that at times it may better suit us to know the extent of our own perceptions.

If we see lies, for example, we could think, "why do I feel that way?"

It is easy to get confused and think the we are our own focal point.

Our body is most relative to what we are, and it is us. But we often fail to see that what we are includes the entirety of our perceptions not just the most relative area (our body).

To embrace everything that we perceive is the difficult part. But parting our perceptions into good and bad creates an illusion quite difficult to embrace.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


and to push the point further:

Hi Choal,

In these posts you have made several references to how relative we are to our own bodies, Well in the ecsys model can we make little subtle changes to our bodies.

I was attacked by a Brazil nut which was eventually consumed but broke one of my teeth in the process.


I was wondering if i could change my perspective of the broken tooth to a good tooth?

Which leads me to wonder if this is possible, as to if we can make other changes, pimples, sunspots,skin color, hair color or are we locked in to our physical perspective?

Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129345


Greetings!

There are two ways of looking at this.

The usual way would be to focus on the broken tooth (or illness, or whatever you don't want in your experience). This actually makes the broken tooth more relative to your experience, as you are interacting with it more. It will probably weaken the integrity of the other teeth, as well, as you are "exploring" the possibilities of broken-toothiness.

As a side note, I think one thing that may surprise most people (from my experience) is how attracted we are to the things we say we don't want. When we choose to interact with something more, it becomes a part of our experience, expectation, and perspective. What would happen when doctors focused more on health instead of illness, preachers on good things rather than about evil or 'the devil', society focusing on education or well-being rather than conflict, wars, violence, etc. We have only to turn on a television to see the kinds of the things that many of us are attracted to, even if we think we don't want those things. What is more interesting to most people? To hear about someone's health or illness?

The other way would be to interact more with the teeth that are not broken. In this way, we evolve the perspective of healthy teeth. We allow the healthy state of teeth to interact.

Similar to focusing on where a "problem" student is doing well instead of on the problem itself, we can explore those things that we want to see more of.

But the real question is, how relative is the broken tooth to your reality? A broken tooth is more than a broken tooth, of course. It is (yes! here comes that word again) a representation of something else.

What else has changed in your life within 2-3 weeks before or after the tooth broke? Does any pain or other effects of the tooth coincide with other events or conditions in your life? (For example)

Also, if a healthy tooth suddenly appearing in your mouth is part of your logical narrative in your current perspective (e.g., would that make sense to you if it happened?) then it could happen.

More probable (if you're like the rest of us) is a gradual return to health that makes sense to you.

How to influence this with Ecsys?

Basically: represent your 'desire', make the experience real (set up rules for it), and interact with it.

For example, if you didn't have the broken tooth (or illness) what would you do? Perhaps the following scenario: using a camera (potential energy) take a hundred photos of your beautiful smile (representation), sharing and/or looking at those photos (interaction), picking out 13 and framing them (structure).

(It can be the same with illness or anything else. A simple question to ask yourself is, "what would I do if...?" Could be a small detail or something larger.)

In this scenario the tooth does not change (there is no tooth) but the perspective changes. Depending on your elements (particularly with how you represent what you want, and the interaction), the broken tooth or illness will become irrelevant.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


Adding to the tooth post!!!


Can we use these models to change any other health related problems?

Or even aging?

Thanks
 Quoting: Vegatech


To add!

It would be quite difficult to maintain the same frame of mind as one had in much younger years.

If you could open your mind instead of closing it as you get older, make stress irrelevant, and minimize the stress of your cells, ageing would not be much of an issue.

Observe youth (or children) and try to figure out how they see the world. Becoming older we make continuous conscious decisions to abandon our youth and make "getting older" more relative to us. What things do we adopt into our lives that represent ageing? Where did our child-like wonder and imagination go? Knowing becomes more important than not-knowing. We often exercise to resist the ageing process, which actually makes us age faster. Ultimately we, not nature, end up ageing ourselves.

Some questions to ask yourself:

How are you interacting or associating with the ageing process? How do you see yourself?

How are you representing being older? (Sending signals of maturity to your peers, covering up your grey hair, exercising often, etc)

What rules on ageing have you adopted? (Thinking about retirement, what you're not supposed to do after a certain age, etc)

Again, we often create the very things we resist.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


[snip]
Similar to focusing on where a "problem" student is doing well instead of on the problem itself, we can explore those things that we want to see more of.
[snip]

 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


To add!

This isn't "positive thinking" per se.

True "positive thinking" is coincidental, not intentional. Oftentimes what people think is "positive thinking" is actually resisting certain behaviors, thoughts, actions, conditions, etc, which is likely to create the conditions you are resisting.

When you want something to disappear make it irrelevant to your perspective. This is different from ignoring something.

When you want something to appear make it highly relevant to your perspective. This is the same as perceiving it.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


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Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I'd say I am part of your perspective, heh!!!!

I started out with a nickname of Unit3. I pretended I was an ET unit sent to Earth. It also sounds like Unity.

Then after several months, I shortened to U3....can't really remember why other than I like to change things up every so often. What surprises me is how often I get asked about my nickname and how 'others' have so many ideas about it.

So, wanna tell me about yours? ;o)

Getting rid of a perspective that bothers you? How are you planning on doing that, if you don't mind me asking. I have several options I use, with varying degrees of success.

I think you will like looking at the Ec charts, the 4 forces chart and the Code of Ecsys on the archived websites...among other goodies to be found there.

In fact, once you learn how to use the Ec language, it won't take you a day to make an element of your perspective irrelevant.
 Quoting: U3


The number 3 holds a special place in my heart. It's because I was born on the 3rd day of the month. It's the number of mystics and also the eldest of odds. I always felt being heavens dearest ;)(dunno if this makes sense). Lucky perhaps?

Please do share any short cut mind exercises which I can practice immediately to change my perspective. As of now, I am just making anything which needs my dire attention (important urgent matters) irrelevant up to the last minute. I'm a last minute kinda guy. I don't think or worry too much of my problems up to the last minute. Kinda carefree with life. It's nothing to be proud of. Infact, I feel certain things needs planning so Sdoesn'tHTF later on. But once I've mastered the genius, I believe great things are destine for me. Just need to procrastinate a couple of days more till I finally get to sit down and absorbed all that I've plan to read and practice.

Thank you my dear perspective for the kind gesture..I wish your life transcends immediately into the dreamworld you've always dream of ;)
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




hf

Just start learning the language of perception, known as Ec.
[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


...


Hehehe..i dunno whether i should go crazy but I guess you're part of my perspective as well.

Just curious with your nickname me (yea you) afro

If I may ask you so..is there any particular reason why you pick your nickname?

Will definetely take a look at the material as soon as I get rid of this one particular perspective that's been bothering me.

Well..its's really irrelevant to me (procrastinate for just another day).
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I'd say I am part of your perspective, heh!!!!

I started out with a nickname of Unit3. I pretended I was an ET unit sent to Earth. It also sounds like Unity.

Then after several months, I shortened to U3....can't really remember why other than I like to change things up every so often. What surprises me is how often I get asked about my nickname and how 'others' have so many ideas about it.

So, wanna tell me about yours? ;o)

Getting rid of a perspective that bothers you? How are you planning on doing that, if you don't mind me asking. I have several options I use, with varying degrees of success.

I think you will like looking at the Ec charts, the 4 forces chart and the Code of Ecsys on the archived websites...among other goodies to be found there.

In fact, once you learn how to use the Ec language, it won't take you a day to make an element of your perspective irrelevant.
 Quoting: U3


The number 3 holds a special place in my heart. It's because I was born on the 3rd day of the month. It's the number of mystics and also the eldest of odds. I always felt being heavens dearest ;)(dunno if this makes sense). Lucky perhaps?

Please do share any short cut mind exercises which I can practice immediately to change my perspective. As of now, I am just making anything which needs my dire attention (important urgent matters) irrelevant up to the last minute. I'm a last minute kinda guy. I don't think or worry too much of my problems up to the last minute. Kinda carefree with life. It's nothing to be proud of. Infact, I feel certain things needs planning so Sdoesn'tHTF later on. But once I've mastered the genius, I believe great things are destine for me. Just need to procrastinate a couple of days more till I finally get to sit down and absorbed all that I've plan to read and practice.

Thank you my dear perspective for the kind gesture..I wish your life transcends immediately into the dreamworld you've always dream of ;)
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




hf

Just start learning the language of perception, known as Ec.
[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


I noticed a few files are missing in the web archives site. Such as the pdf for the pronunciations. You happen to have a copy?
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hf

Just start learning the language of perception, known as Ec.
[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
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I noticed a few files are missing in the web archives site. Such as the pdf for the pronunciations. You happen to have a copy?
 Quoting: Pip Squeak



Enlarge this image and you will see the pronunciations. They are underlined. (Sometimes just staring at the chart is enough to get things rolling.)



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hf

Just start learning the language of perception, known as Ec.
[link to gumpylife.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3


I noticed a few files are missing in the web archives site. Such as the pdf for the pronunciations. You happen to have a copy?
 Quoting: Pip Squeak




I wish I did have that pdf. The site went offline about 2 mos. after I got here. ;(

Enlarge this image and you will see the pronunciations. They are underlined. (Sometimes just staring at the chart is enough to get things rolling.)



[link to 4.bp.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: U3




Here are some posts, from Chaol's threads, on Ec
[link to ecworksheet.blogspot.com]





Thank you, MM! hf

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Last night, some of you have already joined me in my country partook in our first sex magik, astral journey. It was wonderful to become one body with you and guide you to the alternate universe.

Soon the women with father my star children.


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