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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67927299 Bosnia and Herzegovina 02/11/2015 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67927299 Explain me a day which is like a year, a day which is like a month, a day which is like a week, a day which is like a usual day. Chaol, the OP, is not coming back. But if you would like me to answer, I would first need to understand your question. What do you mean? Actually you can, it is related to Time measure, different dimensions of time. Demons understand different dimensions of time. |
Chaom User ID: 67932005 Thailand 02/11/2015 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chaom, Quoting: MutantMessiah Does "being" Chaol still feel like a dream you can't recall or has processing/synthesizing the material led to a kind of reintegration? I ask, because you seem (and I feel)... more "complete" lately. I'm not sure, exactly. It seems more like a distant memory now. Am I becoming Chaol, or is Chaol me? I'm not sure what is going on, but it's an interesting ride. |
Chaom User ID: 67932005 Thailand 02/11/2015 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67927299 Explain me a day which is like a year, a day which is like a month, a day which is like a week, a day which is like a usual day. Chaol, the OP, is not coming back. But if you would like me to answer, I would first need to understand your question. What do you mean? If you are not a Demon, you cannot understand the question. Why do you perceive demons? |
Chaom User ID: 67932005 Thailand 02/11/2015 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67927299 Explain me a day which is like a year, a day which is like a month, a day which is like a week, a day which is like a usual day. Chaol, the OP, is not coming back. But if you would like me to answer, I would first need to understand your question. What do you mean? Actually you can, it is related to Time measure, different dimensions of time. Demons understand different dimensions of time. Is that in the demon handbook? I don't know anything about that. But why do you think time has different dimensions? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67927299 Bosnia and Herzegovina 02/11/2015 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67927299 Explain me a day which is like a year, a day which is like a month, a day which is like a week, a day which is like a usual day. Chaol, the OP, is not coming back. But if you would like me to answer, I would first need to understand your question. What do you mean? Actually you can, it is related to Time measure, different dimensions of time. Demons understand different dimensions of time. Is that in the demon handbook? I don't know anything about that. But why do you think time has different dimensions? Do you think that earth revolves around the sun or is it maybe following it? Do you think Earth is moving in eclipse or just going forward? Have you heard for curved space? How would time behave in curved space? |
Chaom User ID: 67932005 Thailand 02/11/2015 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you think that earth revolves around the sun or is it maybe following it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67927299 Do you think Earth is moving in eclipse or just going forward? Have you heard for curved space? How would time behave in curved space? I suppose if you had asked me a year or two ago I would have something to say but for me now, knowing what I now know, the questions seem irrelevant. It would be like asking, "If I poured a glass of milk and gave it to my uncle, would tomorrow be Thursday or Friday?" The questions presume that certain realities exist, such as curved space, space, time, eclipsing, etc. I can understand the concepts you are presenting but cannot provide answers in any way that might make sense in the context of the questions because my thinking has changed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1503374 Canada 02/11/2015 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The understanding of how and why first requires a recognition of it. The statement was made for effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65389000 We won't get into the validity of cause and effect (considering the illusion of time) but if you agree that everything is a representation of something else then what is it we're recognizing? Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived. So in what way can I not perceive my fingers type this? Can I perceive what I typed after I post? If time is an illusion, then so is cause and effect. Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1503374 Canada 02/11/2015 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illusions doing things with other illusions are still illusions, aren't they? We are so distracted with doing things we forget what we are being. Turn the sword on being then and see how that fairs. Sorry, I don't know what that means. The sword can kill everything except what is (be-ing). |
RE_LKing User ID: 48587438 United Kingdom 02/11/2015 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Chaom Illusions doing things with other illusions are still illusions, aren't they? We are so distracted with doing things we forget what we are being. Turn the sword on being then and see how that fairs. Sorry, I don't know what that means. The sword can kill everything except what is (be-ing). In my opinion(always lite entertainment) In this thread the sword is irrelevant unless you are using it in referenc to mean an ink based biro pen. Sarcasm isn't one of my strong points¤. The shield what cannot let metal atoms through makes all metal attacks obsolete, the cowardice nature of a timid species would then lie down and do the absolute most to do the bare minimum whilst still expecting to be paid for doing nothing? /end of rant. Wasn't at any of you guys. Much love X.Ooo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1288466 Canada 02/11/2015 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you like to talk about what is really going on, or should we just leave it at that? Quoting: Chaom Let's contiune on what is really going on If there is one thing that you could understand or change, what would it be? I would choose to understand the how of the illusion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1288466 Canada 02/11/2015 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sword can kill everything except what is (be-ing). In my opinion(always lite entertainment) In this thread the sword is irrelevant unless you are using it in referenc to mean an ink based biro pen. Sarcasm isn't one of my strong points¤. The shield what cannot let metal atoms through makes all metal attacks obsolete, the cowardice nature of a timid species would then lie down and do the absolute most to do the bare minimum whilst still expecting to be paid for doing nothing? /end of rant. Wasn't at any of you guys. Much love X.Ooo the sword is a representation of be-ing, so it is a metaphor for be-ing killing be-ing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66777011 United States 02/11/2015 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illusions could be anything. That does not mean they are anything other than illusions. Lie is a proxy for something that has no definition. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65389000 A lie would imply that there is truth to be told. But let's take an example. Can you tell me one thing that you think is a "lie"? That human beings are a single consciousness per body. So where does this "lie" come from? Anyone or anywhere? Is it written in a book somewhere? That's an odd question. It comes in the form of a false belief. Origin unknown. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66777011 United States 02/11/2015 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you like to talk about what is really going on, or should we just leave it at that? Quoting: Chaom Let's contiune on what is really going on If there is one thing that you could understand or change, what would it be? I would choose to understand the how of the illusion. Would you like to talk about what is really going on, or should we just leave it at that? Quoting: Chaom Let's contiune on what is really going on If there is one thing that you could understand or change, what would it be? I would choose to understand the how of the illusion. Or the true nature of the human condition. |
MutantMessiah User ID: 59772413 United States 02/11/2015 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be like asking, "If I poured a glass of milk and gave it to my uncle, would tomorrow be Thursday or Friday?" Quoting: Chaom Thursday, tomorrow is Thursday. Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66777011 United States 02/11/2015 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be like asking, "If I poured a glass of milk and gave it to my uncle, would tomorrow be Thursday or Friday?" Quoting: Chaom Thursday, tomorrow is Thursday. If someone routinely gave their uncle milk on Thurs, the question would make sense. To someone somewhere, this question makes sense and applies. |
RE_LKing User ID: 48587438 United Kingdom 02/11/2015 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my opinion(always lite entertainment) In this thread the sword is irrelevant unless you are using it in referenc to mean an ink based biro pen. Sarcasm isn't one of my strong points¤. The shield what cannot let metal atoms through makes all metal attacks obsolete, the cowardice nature of a timid species would then lie down and do the absolute most to do the bare minimum whilst still expecting to be paid for doing nothing? /end of rant. Wasn't at any of you guys. Much love X.Ooo the sword is a representation of be-ing, so it is a metaphor for be-ing killing be-ing. Be-ing killing be-ing If we believe there is no death, what is actually being killed? Or is this waay over my head and I should just go back to reading in silence?? X.O |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1503374 Canada 02/11/2015 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my opinion(always lite entertainment) In this thread the sword is irrelevant unless you are using it in referenc to mean an ink based biro pen. Sarcasm isn't one of my strong points¤. The shield what cannot let metal atoms through makes all metal attacks obsolete, the cowardice nature of a timid species would then lie down and do the absolute most to do the bare minimum whilst still expecting to be paid for doing nothing? /end of rant. Wasn't at any of you guys. Much love X.Ooo the sword is a representation of be-ing, so it is a metaphor for be-ing killing be-ing. Be-ing killing be-ing If we believe there is no death, what is actually being killed? Or is this waay over my head and I should just go back to reading in silence?? X.O We could consider it lite entertainment |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1288466 Canada 02/11/2015 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: RE_LKing In my opinion(always lite entertainment) In this thread the sword is irrelevant unless you are using it in referenc to mean an ink based biro pen. Sarcasm isn't one of my strong points¤. The shield what cannot let metal atoms through makes all metal attacks obsolete, the cowardice nature of a timid species would then lie down and do the absolute most to do the bare minimum whilst still expecting to be paid for doing nothing? /end of rant. Wasn't at any of you guys. Much love X.Ooo the sword is a representation of be-ing, so it is a metaphor for be-ing killing be-ing. Be-ing killing be-ing If we believe there is no death, what is actually being killed? Or is this waay over my head and I should just go back to reading in silence?? X.O We could consider it lite entertainment what is appears to kill (replace) what is in every instant. Is that not what you perceive? |
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RE_LKing User ID: 48587438 United Kingdom 02/11/2015 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466 the sword is a representation of be-ing, so it is a metaphor for be-ing killing be-ing. Be-ing killing be-ing If we believe there is no death, what is actually being killed? Or is this waay over my head and I should just go back to reading in silence?? X.O We could consider it lite entertainment what is appears to kill (replace) what is in every instant. Is that not what you perceive? Admittedly my perception grows daily, the current perception is, what appears to kill (replace) being replaced with being. Don't get me wrong, in a few months if re-reading these threads ever pop up I will face palm. I suppose just the nothing?? If that makes sense be-ing(nothing) killing(nothing to be killed so nothing) be-ing(nothing) All this talk about nothing sure makes me want to do something to forget the illusion of the nothing.. |
ERE3 User ID: 51113205 United States 02/11/2015 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Roberts, Jane:The Nature of Personal Reality, pgs. 184-186. [link to fromseth.wordpress.com (secure)] "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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Chaom User ID: 66722005 Thailand 02/11/2015 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503374 You're making two statements: "Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived." and "...there is no cause and effect" Do you mean there is no cause-and-effect, only effect? What is an effect without a cause? Now it seems we are talking in circles. |
Chaom User ID: 66722005 Thailand 02/11/2015 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It would be like asking, "If I poured a glass of milk and gave it to my uncle, would tomorrow be Thursday or Friday?" Quoting: Chaom Thursday, tomorrow is Thursday. If someone routinely gave their uncle milk on Thurs, the question would make sense. To someone somewhere, this question makes sense and applies. Yes, so the answer could make sense in one perspective but it is not a valid answer overall. We could talk about the curvature of space in a way that makes sense, but I don't believe such curvature exists because there are other explanations that seem to make much more sense. Last Edited by Chaon on 02/11/2015 10:37 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65389000 Canada 02/12/2015 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503374 You're making two statements: "Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived." and "...there is no cause and effect" Do you mean there is no cause-and-effect, only effect? What is an effect without a cause? Now it seems we are talking in circles. Are you suggesting that everything that exists can be perceived? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65389000 Canada 02/12/2015 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503374 You're making two statements: "Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived." and "...there is no cause and effect" Do you mean there is no cause-and-effect, only effect? What is an effect without a cause? Now it seems we are talking in circles. Are you suggesting that everything that exists can be perceived? What requires that cause exists? |
Chaom User ID: 66722005 Thailand 02/12/2015 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503374 You're making two statements: "Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived." and "...there is no cause and effect" Do you mean there is no cause-and-effect, only effect? What is an effect without a cause? Now it seems we are talking in circles. Are you suggesting that everything that exists can be perceived? Sorry, but could you tell me how you presume that it was suggested from the statement? I'm curious. |
Chaom User ID: 66722005 Thailand 02/12/2015 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503374 You're making two statements: "Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived." and "...there is no cause and effect" Do you mean there is no cause-and-effect, only effect? What is an effect without a cause? Now it seems we are talking in circles. Are you suggesting that everything that exists can be perceived? What requires that cause exists? We are most certainly talking in circles :) "What is an effect without a cause?" is not to imply that validity of either of cause or effect, but suggesting that "cause and effect" are inter-dependent. Last Edited by Chaon on 02/12/2015 01:46 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65389000 Canada 02/12/2015 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course you can perceive the effect of fingers typing and text appearing. That is precisely what I stated. Cause can not be perceived so of course there is no cause and effect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503374 You're making two statements: "Cause can not be perceived. Only effect can be perceived." and "...there is no cause and effect" Do you mean there is no cause-and-effect, only effect? What is an effect without a cause? Now it seems we are talking in circles. Are you suggesting that everything that exists can be perceived? Sorry, but could you tell me how you presume that it was suggested from the statement? I'm curious. To step back, yes I meant there is only effect. To me, effect is synonymous with 'is-ness' for lack of a better term. To answer the question you are curious about, I misread your post, and questioned what I thought you wrote rather than what you actually wrote. |