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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
Chaol

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Ok class.

Does anyone know what happened the last time Earth met Elenin?

And the time before that, all over the world?

"Shifts" in perspective are usually associated with weather changes. Why would this be?
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I am going to say that I hope it's a big party and we are all invited.

Is weather the planet's emotions?
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You could say that it's a different expression of the physical energy that surrounds it.

The landscape has an effect on the space above it.

And so does the civilization that uses it.

So, for example, there is one Empire State Building on the ground and an other one in the sky, near where the one you can see is.
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Strange thought. Chaol - you are comprised of your perspective. I am comprised of my perspective. Now I'll slice this in half for simplicity. I (my perspective) am a 'piece' of your perspective. My perspective is nested in yours and yours is nested in mine. If I do the math correctly and remove the arbitrary separations, there can only be one perspective that appears to be made of many perspectives. 'you' are a piece of the lone perspective coming here to teach 'me' another piece of the lone perspective how to manipulate perspective consciously. At a greater scale I am teaching myself something about myself that was always there but not previously relative to my 'individual perspective'
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That's about right.

You could say 'teach' or you could say 'make relative'.
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Could you tell us some details about these 4 elements, the formulas and the relationships, and the structure of your language?


Hello! Surely...

The four elements are ion, axon, chaon, elementon. (There is a 5th, but it's not used.)

Each can have a numerical value and context value. They are 1, 2, 3, 5, respectively.

An ion is structure.
An axon is potential energy.
A chaon is interaction.
An elementon is representation.

The basic formulas are:

* 1+2=3
* 2+3=5
* 5-3=2
* 3-2=1

So, for example: an ion element + an axon element = a chaon element (1+2=3)

To illustrate this example, let's say that a building is an ion element (structure; 1). The space inside the building is an axon element (potential energy; 2). So when you add these two elements together you get interactivity (chaon; 3).

You simply identify what element (of the 4) something is then you can extrapolate conjectures about its relationship with something else. You can also add more formulas onto the result to get more detailed extrapolations.

This is an example done for illustration. The system is used for the very simple as well as the very complex.

The basic formulas could be easily translated into workable For example, 3-2=1 could be translated as, "if we provide less potential energy than our interactions require, our time perspective is reversed." (As potential energy is being structured more than it is not.) Such a model can be used for what would be called time travel (although time is not really what is thought).

The benefit of such a base system allows anyone to use it to make their own extrapolations.

Thanks.
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The four elements are ion, axon, chaon, elementon. (There is a 5th, but it's not used.)

Let me guess the fifth element ..... it's called


laugh
moron !

spock
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Is that a structure or potential energy?
Writer's Block
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Is that a structure or potential energy?
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It's a perfectly erect structure with lots of potential!

:O
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Consider me your guide to the other side. Your brother from an other mother!

(It may prove useful to print out the Ecsys material in case you want to read it while you're sleeping. Every page of this forum, if you're so inclined, is helpful.)

See you on the other side, everyone!
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Is it a Farewell, Chaol?

I think we will need more assistance now than ever, as things go faster.

hiding
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Assist others, and you will be assisted.

Things are not really going faster. But more crazy stuff is becoming more relative to your current experience, so it may seem that way (that time is speeding up).

You can look at things from the perspective of your current physical self, or you can look at things from what you are becoming more of.

If the former, then consider the following expression:

[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]

Each enclosed circle represents a time-perspective (date), each unenclosed circle represents a space-perspective (world).

The larger circle on the bottom left represents September 29, 2011. Then, the last circle is October 28, 2011.

September 29 is the date when the Earth is shaken, not stirred, like a Bond.

October 18 (in the middle) is the date that we cross Earth's orbit.

October 28 is the date that Earth crosses our path.

It is also the date that a new cycle on the Mayan calendar ends, and the date of the end of Hebrew calendar (5772, which correlates to the height from the top to the bottom of what you call the Great Pyramid, in inches).

There are lots of other correlations as well, but the point is that any energy can have a physical expression, as 'crop circles', limestone pyramids, stone calendars, etc.

Such energies can also be expressed as heavenly bodies.

It's not the someone created the structures in the past, and they are coincidentally relevant to this day. The structures are 'created' now and completely relevant for now.

If they were not relevant for now you would not be able to perceive them. So, we perceive things that are entirely relevant to us now.

If the latter, then there is really no need to think about how any of this will affect you physically.

Dream about it, instead.
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I don't mean to take over this thread, but I'm pretty sure -- and Chaol should correct me if I am wrong -- that you can map for yourself a gentle awakening. Instead of the "crash" that is being predicted for some, simply map waking up on an easy, sunny morning with a wonderful day ahead of you. Something like that.
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:)
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[snips]

ha, best part (DNA - to be released in a future version of the Ecsys website due to concerns regarding mis-use of this information)

[snips]
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Perhaps the "aha!" moment for some would be the response to the question, "What if the structure of DNA was not a double-helix?"
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Following up on 'crop circles', ALL of your (legitimate) crop circles are regarding this 'shift' to the dream world.

These were not created by aliens or other beings.

These are your own impressions.

It gives you an idea of how your dream world and physical world* are the same, and becoming more obvious.

*As I've mentioned before, both worlds are physical.
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Take it day by day and you'll be fine.

"The only thing to fear is fear itself"

In each moment, look for opportunity.

Consider whatever may happen as 'growing pains'.

There is no real advice I can give you that would pertain to everyone, other than to pay attention to your dreams.

Take care, and I hope to see you soon :)
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Thankyou Choal
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Thankyou Choal
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+1000
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Following up on 'crop circles', ALL of your (legitimate) crop circles are regarding this 'shift' to the dream world.

These were not created by aliens or other beings.

These are your own impressions.

It gives you an idea of how your dream world and physical world* are the same, and becoming more obvious.

*As I've mentioned before, both worlds are physical.
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Very interesting on the crop circle. When you get a moment can you explain the center of the design and the head of the snake?
Thanks.hf
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As much as I'd like to just take this as a bit of fun, the crop circle freaked me the hell out.

:)

This morning when I left my flat, my daughter spotted a catapillar ... I've never seen one like it! It was h-u-g-e, green, and I noted how it had a little sticky out bit at the back...

.. Just like that crop circle :S

Growing pains when things don't go so well, right?

(Today has been a great day for Genius work though!)

Edit: And I guess Bye Bye for now Chaol? :( I'll miss you! Will it be on this forum we'll pobably meet again, or...?

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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
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You blew it right there.

"I" is the very essence of consciousness.

Debunked...next...
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As much as I'd like to just take this as a bit of fun, the crop circle freaked me the hell out.

:)

This morning when I left my flat, my daughter spotted a catapillar ... I've never seen one like it! It was h-u-g-e, green, and I noted how it had a little sticky out bit at the back...

.. Just like that crop circle :S

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Cool synchronicity!
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In case not everybody has seen this thread:

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

[snip]
Question: Go into detail about a few of these surprises.
Response: No doom from elenin. its not a comet, or not totally just a comet.

[snip]
Question: so what are you talking about happening like first contact or something like that?
Response: as far as elenin, i just hope we have some ham radio operators out there who can listen to it. we need to learn about ourselves and our heritage. elenin may help with this.

On Page 9, the post by "linen" at 3:40 p.m. gives a summary of what OP told us. Fascinating information!
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In case not everybody has seen this thread:

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

[snip]
Question: Go into detail about a few of these surprises.
Response: No doom from elenin. its not a comet, or not totally just a comet.

[snip]
Question: so what are you talking about happening like first contact or something like that?
Response: as far as elenin, i just hope we have some ham radio operators out there who can listen to it. we need to learn about ourselves and our heritage. elenin may help with this.

On Page 9, the post by "linen" at 3:40 p.m. gives a summary of what OP told us. Fascinating information!
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Thanks I'll check it out. hf
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(snip)

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

(snip)

I agree, interesting thread, very reassuring.
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(snip)

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

(snip)

I agree, interesting thread, very reassuring.
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Agreed, thanks.
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"I" is the very essence of consciousness.

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[Note: I may disappear any time within the next day or so as I prepare for my August 3 departure, so I may not have a chance to respond to all questions.]

Obviously, our (your) scientists haven't figured out what consciousness is.

Although it would make sense that "I" = consciousness, it does not make it true.
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Very interesting on the crop circle. When you get a moment can you explain the center of the design and the head of the snake?
Thanks.hf
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I will explain some of it.

[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]

The center of the expression represents your transitioning to the dream world.

The two worlds are becoming one.

Take a look at [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

and note the dates I've mentioned above, starting with September 29th. So, the middle sphere would be October 18th (when my orbit crosses yours) and the last sphere would be at the end of October (when your world crosses my path).

Just count the spheres. The size and position of the spheres mean something else, but perhaps you can figure it out.

The snake form is an other correlation with the dream world. In your ancient legends (such as your Bible) there is a serpent.

The original meaning of "sin" is nothing bad, it's just forgetfulness because you don't really remember your dreams. (I'm sure you can find this original definition somewhere.)

You are "punished" for your "sin" because you simply don't know that you're dreaming. If you remembered that you're dreaming then you'd realize that you can manipulate your experience (and, thus, no punishment).

Eating from the 'tree of knowledge of (remembering and forgetting)' is the simple act of dreaming.

You have other stories where someone eats an apple and falls into a deep sleep.

Snakes, in the oldest sense, represented "potent symbolic value". Dreams are thought of as symbolic, so the serpent form represents dreams. Other peoples attached 'deceit' to them, because they can also be deceitful.

Some legends are of a red dragon such as Nibiru. This serpent form also represents the dream world. The "planet of the crossing" can be thought of as crossing over into the dream world, not just crossing your orbit.

If you read some of your 'ancient' texts in this light they would make a lot more sense.

So, at the 'serpents' head the two worlds become one.

Hope this helps.

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Again.. YOU create these crop circles, not aliens from an other planet.

The dream world is physical, as I've mentioned before.

It is already around you, and it will encompass you in the months to come.

This is more of your natural state.

It is the state your scientists have been trying to recreate in the laboratory, programmers have been trying to recreate with software and robots, science fiction and fantasy authors have been imagining, and the state you depend on for your waking life.

You will be astounded by what you are doing (what you "will do").

You will be able to do everything that I've talked about, such as traveling through time and space and much, much more.

Is this not what you dreamed of?
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Thank you so much Chaol for sharing your knowledge with us. I would like to know if religion and all of the other political and governmental systems were formed by a higher part of us to gradually evolve while experiencing duality, or were there entities separate from us that had an agenda to create these systems of enslavement? If it's in our hands, how do we change the current system of work, government, and so on...?
Are these changes going to take place on their own in the next 2 years or do we have to do anything to make it happen?

Thanks again!
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Why are you leaving on August 3rd? Is there something special about that date? (Besides it being my birthday blink )
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Yes, thank you very much for the crop circle explanation. hf
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The dream world is physical, as I've mentioned before.

It is already around you, and it will encompass you in the months to come.

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Oh! Like a tesseract!

Now it's time for a little Carl Sagan:
Link: [link to www.dailymotion.com]

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Google search: Images: "tesseract"

[link to www.google.com]
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Tesseract animation:

[link to www.google.com]

abduct
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Very interesting on the crop circle. When you get a moment can you explain the center of the design and the head of the snake?
Thanks.hf
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I will explain some of it.

[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]

The center of the expression represents your transitioning to the dream world.

The two worlds are becoming one.

Take a look at [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

and note the dates I've mentioned above, starting with September 29th. So, the middle sphere would be October 18th (when my orbit crosses yours) and the last sphere would be at the end of October (when your world crosses my path).

Just count the spheres. The size and position of the spheres mean something else, but perhaps you can figure it out.

The snake form is an other correlation with the dream world. In your ancient legends (such as your Bible) there is a serpent.

The original meaning of "sin" is nothing bad, it's just forgetfulness because you don't really remember your dreams. (I'm sure you can find this original definition somewhere.)

You are "punished" for your "sin" because you simply don't know that you're dreaming. If you remembered that you're dreaming then you'd realize that you can manipulate your experience (and, thus, no punishment).

Eating from the 'tree of knowledge of (remembering and forgetting)' is the simple act of dreaming.

You have other stories where someone eats an apple and falls into a deep sleep.

Snakes, in the oldest sense, represented "potent symbolic value". Dreams are thought of as symbolic, so the serpent form represents dreams. Other peoples attached 'deceit' to them, because they can also be deceitful.

Some legends are of a red dragon such as Nibiru. This serpent form also represents the dream world. The "planet of the crossing" can be thought of as crossing over into the dream world, not just crossing your orbit.

If you read some of your 'ancient' texts in this light they would make a lot more sense.

So, at the 'serpents' head the two worlds become one.

Hope this helps.
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So I did a little look up of the tradition of Halloween and found it's the remembrance of the fall of Lemuria. Listen to this and see how it will play with this dream world planned for the end of October.

[link to thegreenduck.com]

"The legends further tell us that a year later in the autumn when the Pleiades was exactly overhead again marking the first anniversary of the destruction of Lemuria, the survivors called forth their elders from the other side using their usual necromancy in order to seek advice.

Since the elite elders could no longer incarnate consciously into a civilization which no longer existed (conscious reincarnation is a bit trickier than it sounds), it became an annual rite for the survivors, when the Pleiades was exactly overhead, to call forth the spirits of their dead elders for advice.

And thus the tradition began that the dead walk the face of the Earth and talk to humans when the Pleiades is exactly overhead each autumn."
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Interesting, SW.

There is an other article that explores the myths that may be the basis for Halloween. It is called, eerily enough, "Witches, Comets and Planetary Cataclysms".

Here it is in a 21-page pdf: [link to www.thedotconnector.org]
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Chaol, my IP block has been banned. Are there any other forums you check?
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No.

I previously posted an introduction on the David dIcke forums but there was no response.
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Is this why you choose godlike to post your info?or you knew from the beginning everything will be posted here?? hf

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