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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
Chaol

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No. These are not the dooms you are looking for.

You have to wait a couple of days for that.

But there is more shakin' than the kind you find on USGS.

The British Empire's former meridian is coming to life again.
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but none of us felt it....no "shaking"

to me that is an example of what I call a "facile" response

and don't get me wrong, I am a big fan
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Understood, and thanks.

However, new kinds of physicality require new kinds of thinking.

You can have one without the other but you wouldn't know it.

We can learn to think in new ways if we want.

We really don't want to "let go" of it. But we're certainly given multiple opportunities to do that.

Perhaps we need a wake up call.

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but none of us felt it....no "shaking"

to me that is an example of what I call a "facile" response

and don't get me wrong, I am a big fan
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This isn't a violent shaking of your house. (That's why I said you would get "the doom you are obviously expecting on October 1".)

(It's continues to amaze me how many people really want "doom" to occur. But anyways...)

The rocks at this particular "canary in the gold mine" have been displaced (shaking, like apples from a tree) and the magma is now flowing rapidly.

The point is that the "solidus" has been reached (for an important layer) as of September 29 underneath this particular volcano string first. (I thought it was amusing to put it in the Canary Islands, but maybe it's just a dry wit.)

This means that the pressures underneath your feet (the Earth) are becoming high enough to melt much more rock (thus creating much more magma).

There is a big difference underneath your feet between today and last week. You won't see this type of activity on USGS, though.

Earthquakes are the least of our concerns :)

It's much more efficient (energy-wise) to whisper to volcanoes than increase earthquake activity.

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but none of us felt it....no "shaking"

to me that is an example of what I call a "facile" response

and don't get me wrong, I am a big fan
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1382064


This isn't a violent shaking of your house. (That's why I said you would get "the doom you are obviously expecting on October 1".)

(It's continues to amaze me how many people really want "doom" to occur. But anyways...)

The rocks at this particular "canary in the gold mine" have been displaced (shaking, like apples from a tree) and the magma is now flowing rapidly.

The point is that the "solidus" has been reached (for an important layer) as of September 29 underneath this particular volcano string first. (I thought it was amusing to put it in the Canary Islands, but maybe it's just a dry wit.)

This means that the pressures underneath your feet (the Earth) are becoming high enough to much more rock (thus creating much more magma).

There is a big difference underneath your feet between today and last week. You won't see this type of activity on USGS, though.

Earthquakes are the least of our concerns :)
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Hey Chaol, sorry to bother, but in the 8th page of this thread you have posted this:


If anyone is interested in HD photos, video, and other multimedia from the world I live in, please express your interest and it will be provided.

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Can you provide a pic of your world? Maybe from a animal, or a city?
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Can you provide a pic of your world? Maybe from a animal, or a city?
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Hi.

I've also discussed this at greater length at subsequent pages.

What do we usually do with evidence?

What good is it when it goes against our (core) beliefs?

We already have plenty of evidence for quite a bit of "high strangeness" but, alas, none of it is 'true' or real.

If you really feel that you need a photo from my world then think of these posts as entertainment (or "BS", if you'd prefer) and consider me batshi7 insane but the posts somewhat interesting.

We do not perceive the unexpected until there is a logical progression from here to there.

And, with certain things, that has not happened yet.

That's sort of what I am doing with these posts but there is certainly no 'logical progression' yet for most of what I'd like to tell you and show you.
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The things Bashar says here : [link to www.youtube.com]

are very similar to what your saying of this physicality and dream state, just thought I bring it to your and everyones attention.
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Following on...

Decent, clear and close-up photos exist of what you'd call UFOs or alien beings.

But the real question would be, "Are you able to perceive them?"

What happens if an "alien" knocked on your door. You'd open your door, but then what would your experience be?

You are surrounded by such things, but there is no logical progression to the experience/perspective so you do not yet experience or perceive it.
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Can you provide a pic of your world? Maybe from a animal, or a city?
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Hi.

I've also discussed this at greater length at subsequent pages.

What do we usually do with evidence?

What good is it when it goes against our (core) beliefs?

We already have plenty of evidence for quite a bit of "high strangeness" but, alas, none of it is 'true' or real.

If you really feel that you need a photo from my world then think of these posts as entertainment (or "BS", if you'd prefer) and consider me batshi7 insane but the posts somewhat interesting.

We do not perceive the unexpected until there is a logical progression from here to there.

And, with certain things, that has not happened yet.

That's sort of what I am doing with these posts but there is certainly no 'logical progression' yet for most of what I'd like to tell you and show you.
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Sorry Chaol, you got me wrong... Perhaps it was my bad english fault lol

I'm just curious about how your world looks like, if the animal are the same from the Earth, the people, you know?

It's pure curiosity, don't get me wrong! hf
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Please - can you expand on Oct. 1 just a bit?
Much Thanks
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'The British Empire's former meridian is coming to life again.' quoting Chaol


How do you define meridian Chaol? Are you referring to time-zones? Or the Empire at it's peak? Another interpretation? Please clarify.
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'The British Empire's former meridian is coming to life again.' quoting Chaol


How do you define meridian Chaol? Are you referring to time-zones? Or the Empire at it's peak? Another interpretation? Please clarify.
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You got it! [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Please - can you expand on Oct. 1 just a bit?
Much Thanks
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The Earth is already expanding well enough on October 1 :)

It's quite close. If you're worried about being safe there's no need to.

If you're curious surely you can be curious one more day.
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Please - can you expand on Oct. 1 just a bit?
Much Thanks
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The Earth is already expanding well enough on October 1 :)

It's quite close. If you're worried about being safe there's no need to.

If you're curious surely you can be curious one more day.
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brilliant thread - 'nuf said, except maybe, many thanks, my friend...
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Please - can you expand on Oct. 1 just a bit?
Much Thanks
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The Earth is already expanding well enough on October 1 :)

It's quite close. If you're worried about being safe there's no need to.

If you're curious surely you can be curious one more day.
 Quoting: Chaol


brilliant thread - 'nuf said, except maybe, many thanks, my friend...
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Certainly. It's been a pleasure.

And good luck during your visit tomorrow.
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Can you provide a pic of your world? Maybe from a animal, or a city?
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Hi.

I've also discussed this at greater length at subsequent pages.

What do we usually do with evidence?

What good is it when it goes against our (core) beliefs?

We already have plenty of evidence for quite a bit of "high strangeness" but, alas, none of it is 'true' or real.

If you really feel that you need a photo from my world then think of these posts as entertainment (or "BS", if you'd prefer) and consider me batshi7 insane but the posts somewhat interesting.

We do not perceive the unexpected until there is a logical progression from here to there.

And, with certain things, that has not happened yet.

That's sort of what I am doing with these posts but there is certainly no 'logical progression' yet for most of what I'd like to tell you and show you.
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I understand what you are saying Chaol, but could you post the pictures anyways? Humor us maybe? Please! :)
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(It's continues to amaze me how many people really want "doom" to occur. But anyways...)

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Doom?? Anyone remember THIS?

[link to www.youtube.com]

One for the Brits, anyway...
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Please - can you expand on Oct. 1 just a bit?
Much Thanks
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The Earth is already expanding well enough on October 1 :)

It's quite close. If you're worried about being safe there's no need to.

If you're curious surely you can be curious one more day.
 Quoting: Chaol


brilliant thread - 'nuf said, except maybe, many thanks, my friend...
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Certainly. It's been a pleasure.

And good luck during your visit tomorrow.
 Quoting: Chaol


had to pause for a moment at your reply (most genuinely & pleasantly surprised)~ thanks again for such an elegant presentation. difficult to express how the "elementary, my dear watson!" thought comes to mind when contemplating this thread, as tho, each of your posts can really only leave one with a sense of 'but of course, it all makes perfect sense!' (words, bah, so shamefully inadequate at times - so be it).
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We have been seeing so many false prophecy on this site that I became desensitized when I read about another doom date. A while ago I started marking in my calendar all predictions and when the X date arrives another prediction falls apart.
This is what I have for October:

Oct 11:
prediction by ET_MAN (2 years ago):
Thread: Remember thread back in 2009 by ET_MAN? Predictions for October 2011

and also this:
Thread: Thank You, Godlike Productions....and now the End Shall Come.

Oct 10 - Oct 13:
Huge CME predicted by Patrick Geryl

Oct 16:
Elenin closest distance from Earth

Oct 21:
The End by Harold Camping:
[link to www.sfgate.com]

Oct 28:
End of Mayan calendar.

Now I added your date. Undoubtedly if we have 9.0 EQ or 100 ft tsunami this will count. I ask you a permission to raise BS flag on Oct 2 if nothing remarkable happens in our physical reality.
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(It's continues to amaze me how many people really want "doom" to occur. But anyways...)

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Hi Chaol

Big fan, long time reader.

I think a lot of people want "doom" to occur because deep within themselves they know what is happening. They use doom because they feel that it is the only way change will be forced upon them, giving themselves no choice but to change. The "choice" of change is perhaps a perspective in itself, but being open to the changes and preparing yourself for them is no doubt for the best. This however, perhaps another perspective, requires a lot of effort.

People would far rather be forced into facing their fears and giving up their (perceived) safety than making the "choice" to face them on their own.

I think ultimately people want doom for this reason. And no doubt this attitude has allowed ourselves to be taken over in this world by "TPTB". No doubt an intended lesson on our journey.

Everything is perspective. People don't like my example; but a "Westerner" would say "terrorists" are bad, often middle eastern related countries and that "world powers" should do everything to stop it.

The "terrorist" believes he is correct due to his religion in many cases (or perceived understanding of the content of the religion) and perhaps due to the likes of "Westerners" invading their country. The "terrorist" believes he is doing the right thing.

Who is correct? Neither. It is a matter of perspective.

Luke
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(It's continues to amaze me how many people really want "doom" to occur. But anyways...)

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Hi Chaol

Big fan, long time reader.

I think a lot of people want "doom" to occur because deep within themselves they know what is happening. They use doom because they feel that it is the only way change will be forced upon them, giving themselves no choice but to change. The "choice" of change is perhaps a perspective in itself, but being open to the changes and preparing yourself for them is no doubt for the best. This however, perhaps another perspective, requires a lot of effort.

People would far rather be forced into facing their fears and giving up their (perceived) safety than making the "choice" to face them on their own.

I think ultimately people want doom for this reason. And no doubt this attitude has allowed ourselves to be taken over in this world by "TPTB". No doubt an intended lesson on our journey.

Everything is perspective. People don't like my example; but a "Westerner" would say "terrorists" are bad, often middle eastern related countries and that "world powers" should do everything to stop it.

The "terrorist" believes he is correct due to his religion in many cases (or perceived understanding of the content of the religion) and perhaps due to the likes of "Westerners" invading their country. The "terrorist" believes he is doing the right thing.

Who is correct? Neither. It is a matter of perspective.

Luke
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If we don't learn to watch for the unexpected, how will we successfully work within our new perspectives?

Your mind is everywhere and no where at once. So actually "thinking out of the box" is easier than you think.

This isn't just entertainment. It's actually an important exercise for all of us.
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Hi Chaol,

Your request and possible awe of the different perspectives, though not to your surprise…..never ceases to amaze how text can have arise so much emotion. Definitely appreciate your openness and respect despite.

I have a couple of questions if you will kindly consider answering…

Are you connected in any way to Abraham Hicks (website)… and also with “Healing Communication” [..] website


With love and appreciation, EL
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Hi!

Great thread Chaol!

Where you born on this planet?
Or should one ask, is part of your perspective focused in that same way most of us can only few our selves, born here, growing up, learning (slowly) all in a very simplistic linear timeline/perspective.
Is the main difference that most of your focus is aimed at perspectives most of us do not dare looking at/living in? Lack the fantasy dreaming of?
And is only a small part of your focus about this human perspective we earthlings are so blindly engaged in.

Because in a way this would not make you any different then any other person 'on this planet', only difference would be that your focus broke free and largely expanded where most of us stay in the same cage and narrow viewpoint/perspective/dream-state scenario.

Is it correct that the large part of the trick in expanded perspective is to simply recognize dreams and their freedom as true realities to live in/by?

Most people know dreaming usually takes place in a few minutes but it often feels like you've been there for hours. In this manner, one can live life's and learn stuff in Earth minutes, right?

Then the very key would be to recognize dreams as true space of developing and learning and most important as something that is merge-able with what is commonly known as daily Earth life, or in your words; daily Earth perspective.
This could drastically catapult individuals or groups of people to a higher way of living and experiencing life, right? If one would finally see that everything one needs can originate at free will from it's own being.
Eventually one would stop dreaming or only dream, what's the difference right? Then what maybe eventually would stop is the need to sleep in order to live richer/dream.

So, is the most of your expanded perspective/reality or place you experience originating from, or belonging too actually this what we call dream-state, that what most of us refuse to take for real?
Something you do in an aware and controlled manner for your personal advantage and way of living.
Question remains how this dream-state is a shared experience you or anyone from your world would then experience as a world or society of it's own.
Maybe this is where -attracting energies, and how all thoughts are energy- comes in to play.

I theorize that most of us feel they need to go trough this dream-state unaware or in other words sleeping, because they cannot or refuse to handle the immense freedom and wealth that lies hidden in their higher perspectives.

It is known (i also have experienced this my self) that Edgar Cayce would use this moment of falling asleep to connect with parts of our reality most of us are totally unaware of.
He would not fall a sleep but stay in a semi awake/dream state to transfer knowledge from the greater realms in to our more narrow earthly realm/perspective.
He would help people with all sorts of problems, mostly health and relationship related. (of course, psychical health is all about relationships.

One question came to mind when you replied to someone with: "must be some good stuff you're smoking".
Would you say that some drugs when applied correctly would help to learn about this expanded perspective more effectively? Such as DMT, which is known to be a chemical produced naturally in our body and is claimed to play a big role in dreaming.

What brings me to my last question; if you where born here, how did you wake up? Did you wake up by your self, or could you say outside events or substances helped you to reach greater alternative perspectives.

Thanks for all your great information and alternative way of viewing and presenting life to us.
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Great post! applause2


Your words immediately reminded me of this guy's thought-provoking idea's:




R.I.P. for the real Wubbo Ockels. He was a true icon of my country, and a great front-fighter for sustainable energie/technology and humanism.

"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

Thread: LADIES & GENTLEMEN: I PRESENT to YOU OUR NEW SUN !!
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Thanks fellow Dutch man (or woman?) for taking the time to read my post and respond, and thanks for the good video's!

peace

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Hi Chaol. You find yourself in Thailand these days eh?

There are the occasional threads that really stand out on GLP. Some for pure entertainment, some because you think they are trying to say something important. Your old threads are of course one of these or both, not sure which.

I remember reading your website (seems to be down down?). Trying to grasp your content. I think I partly "got it" on an abstract intellectual level (although I have not read it for a couple of years now). But failed miserably to truly grasp or experience your words. Out of interest do you feel your message has really been fully comprehended and lived by anyone. Any one contact you about it. If there is any thing to it I am not sure we are wired right to perceive it.

I have no idea if you are a visionary or insane, or both, but you are no idiot. That is for sure. But still you have descended into largely indecipherable replies in this thread. The common tactic of the deceitful. I don't care either way. Still loving it and I will happily read what you write trying to discern metaphor and fact apart and alike.
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I remember reading your website (seems to be down down?).
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The site works if you omit the www part in the url, so just ecsys.org.
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I was wondering about the game that was supposed to be made to help understand the ecsys system.
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I was wondering about the game that was supposed to be made to help understand the ecsys system.
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Tomorrow will be EPIC. Chaol is legit.
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Please - can you expand on Oct. 1 just a bit?
Much Thanks
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The Earth is already expanding well enough on October 1 :)

It's quite close. If you're worried about being safe there's no need to.

If you're curious surely you can be curious one more day.
 Quoting: Chaol


brilliant thread - 'nuf said, except maybe, many thanks, my friend...
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Certainly. It's been a pleasure.

And good luck during your visit tomorrow.
 Quoting: Chaol


very spooky, chaol - how did you know, and since you apparently were aware of what was to transpire for me today, you must have known how i would ineffectively respond to this particular perceptual relationship. the bizarre thing was, i had completely forgotten about the post you had made in response to mine, until this evening when i came back onto glp.
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The Earth is already expanding well enough on October 1 :)

It's quite close. If you're worried about being safe there's no need to.

If you're curious surely you can be curious one more day.
 Quoting: Chaol


brilliant thread - 'nuf said, except maybe, many thanks, my friend...
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Certainly. It's been a pleasure.

And good luck during your visit tomorrow.
 Quoting: Chaol


very spooky, chaol - how did you know, and since you apparently were aware of what was to transpire for me today, you must have known how i would ineffectively respond to this particular perceptual relationship. the bizarre thing was, i had completely forgotten about the post you had made in response to mine, until this evening when i came back onto glp.
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I noticed this and I wondered if you and he had been in private contact.

Seemingly, not?

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