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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Interesting ;)
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Awesome find Mutant.
Many striking similarities/parallels to Chaol's message.
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
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Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
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Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


/jealous, is it too late for me to jump on the "lets make it more relative to me" bandwagon? ^^
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to miqq,

“Any solid object is made solid by the creator of that object,and the creator of that object agrees that it is solid,so it stays solid.But the truth is when you go to sleep tonight,your bedroom will disappear or it will fuzz out and the light in your refrigerator will fade,because the moment that you go to sleep you are no longer observing your room,
and the moment you no longer observe your room,it fuzzes out.”
— Ramtha


In this example, the room is more than the room you see (or observe).

The room is everywhere, as is your breath or the sound of your voice.

To speak more plainly:

When you're not looking at the room, it isn't there because it doesn't need to be. There is no need for you to perceive beyond your perception. And your perception is all you could possibly know.

When you leave the room to go outside and sit under a tree, the room "refashions" itself as the tree and what you experience.

In this way there is only one object in the universe. And that is your perspective.
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5877556,

When we think the answer is something specific we are already experiencing it in our reality.

Even if it is just 'in your mind' it is as valid as physical experience.

There's no need for it to represent itself again in your reality (physically) because it has done so all ready (in other ways).

Be open to whatever it may be and let it come into your physical experience.
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MutantMessiah,

Me next! :D

It is all just a coincidence, right?

Probably.
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1562550,

Pure coincidence ;)
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
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No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


/jealous, is it too late for me to jump on the "lets make it more relative to me" bandwagon? ^^
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Don't be so fast to be jealous!

When someone first gets inside your head (telepathy) it is a rather freaky experience. This has been going on with me and another now for a couple of years. At first, you try to dismiss it with logic -- it's just coincidence, or seeing patterns you want to see, or lucky guesses. Then as it goes on and the coincidences and lucky guesses pile up, when you cannot possibly dismiss it with logic anymore... you start wondering if you have finally gone insane. Since I know I'm no more or less insane than most, I then started to do research -- again, grasping for the logic behind it.

Along the way you find yourself vacillating between marvel and wonderment, and feeling like you are laid bare and there's no thought in your head that is private anymore. That can get annoying, uncomfortable, etc.

But, now I am marveling that Chaol seems to be able to do it too (whether deliberately or not) ... I'm okay with it because a lot of what Chaol writes about are concepts I've also been exploring, starting around the same time Chaol began posting, long before I discovered his threads. Yes, these threads are very relative to me. Amazingly relative. Chaol is simply putting together for me some of the missing and finer pieces. Hence why I was so willing to jump right in and create a representation and give it all a shot!
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5877556,

When we think the answer is something specific we are already experiencing it in our reality.

Even if it is just 'in your mind' it is as valid as physical experience.

There's no need for it to represent itself again in your reality (physically) because it has done so all ready (in other ways).

Be open to whatever it may be and let it come into your physical experience.
 Quoting: Chaol


That's logic that I can follow.
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1562550,

You haven't seen it yet but would you like to know how it's done?

Imagine a "stranger over the internet" telling the average Gloria their innermost secrets and details about their life (stuff even they don't know yet).

What do you think the emotional and psychological response would be?

Sometimes it is more helpful to ignore most of 'reality'.

And this supreme ignorance we call logic and sanity.

To see 'beyond' we must become insane while re-defining what logic is. The same as you would experience if you suddenly appeared on a world 435 light years away.
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
 Quoting: Chaol


I just read OTR's mind. He wants to know how you read other's minds.
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1288466,

I'll try to be more clear in future.

However, "accuracy" (or whatever it'd be called) is sacrificed for it.
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1288466,

And OTR just read your mind! Unfortunately, no one knows how the 0s get into a box of Cheerios lol
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1288466,

I'll try to be more clear in future.

However, "accuracy" (or whatever it'd be called) is sacrificed for it.
 Quoting: Chaol


;-)
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And OTR just read your mind! Unfortunately, no one knows how the 0s get into a box of Cheerios lol
 Quoting: Chaol


You just gave me an awesome idea for a new cereal. I will call it The Matrix and it will consist of 1s and 0s.
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1288466,

And OTR just read your mind! Unfortunately, no one knows how the 0s get into a box of Cheerios lol
 Quoting: Chaol


You just gave me an awesome idea for a new cereal. I will call it The Matrix and it will consist of 1s and 0s.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


or a See Real, whichever you prefer.
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You just gave me an awesome idea for a new cereal. I will call it The Matrix and it will consist of 1s and 0s.

And every box comes with two prizes? A red bag and a blue bag?
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You funny.
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1288466,

I believe Shakespeare would say that poor Yoricks mum would "buy nary" a one.

Ok, yours consists of more amusement.

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1288466,

I believe Shakespeare would say that poor Yoricks mum would "buy nary" a one.

Ok, yours consists of more amusement.
 Quoting: Chaol


"buy nary" how did I ever become this clever? I like this part of me.
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"buy nary" how did I ever become this clever? I like this part of me.

Wonderful! Then we have an Accord! And so it is.

What other clever things can you think of in answer to your implied question, "How does telepathy work?"
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I wouldn't want to scare anyone with "the truth".

It is not telepathy.

It is something far deeper.

But something you wouldn't be able to accept right now.

(If you were able to accept it, you'd already be "there".)
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1288466,

The answer is in this post: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Here:

Existence is like an ocean.
Being is like the summit of each wave.
Not resisting itself, it does as it is.
It forgets itself, and is more than it is.


and in other places.

It's really all about you.
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Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


/jealous, is it too late for me to jump on the "lets make it more relative to me" bandwagon? ^^
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Don't be so fast to be jealous!

When someone first gets inside your head (telepathy) it is a rather freaky experience. This has been going on with me and another now for a couple of years. At first, you try to dismiss it with logic -- it's just coincidence, or seeing patterns you want to see, or lucky guesses. Then as it goes on and the coincidences and lucky guesses pile up, when you cannot possibly dismiss it with logic anymore... you start wondering if you have finally gone insane. Since I know I'm no more or less insane than most, I then started to do research -- again, grasping for the logic behind it.

Along the way you find yourself vacillating between marvel and wonderment, and feeling like you are laid bare and there's no thought in your head that is private anymore. That can get annoying, uncomfortable, etc.

But, now I am marveling that Chaol seems to be able to do it too (whether deliberately or not) ... I'm okay with it because a lot of what Chaol writes about are concepts I've also been exploring, starting around the same time Chaol began posting, long before I discovered his threads. Yes, these threads are very relative to me. Amazingly relative. Chaol is simply putting together for me some of the missing and finer pieces. Hence why I was so willing to jump right in and create a representation and give it all a shot!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


I see what you're saying, I suppose this seems "fun" because I'd be giving permission. I know the feeling you're describing though. More so recently. hf
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
 Quoting: Chaol


I just read OTR's mind. He wants to know how you read other's minds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


*She, and you'd have read it perfectly :P
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
 Quoting: Chaol


I'd like to know if coincidences are "a broken clock is right twice a day", or "there is no spoon".

If "magic" is real, or if "this is all there is"?

And if opening one's perspective is safe? How to undo what's been done? How to not do anything needing to be undone again?
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"buy nary" how did I ever become this clever? I like this part of me.

Wonderful! Then we have an Accord! And so it is.

What other clever things can you think of in answer to your implied question, "How does telepathy work?"
 Quoting: Chaol


Not sure it would be clever, but if everything is in the mind...wouldn't telepathy, represent one part of the mind understanding what another part of the mind was thinking, pretending there was some type of separation between the two representations, or that the two representations actually exist?
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If anyone can, 1288466 can!

"How do the 0s get into a box of Cheerios?"

So, we have your new cereal that consists of 1s and 0s.

If 0s represent "nothing" and 1s represent "something", how can we get the 0s into the box?
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
 Quoting: Chaol


I just read OTR's mind. He wants to know how you read other's minds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


*She, and you'd have read it perfectly :P
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Sorry OTR, those other bits you were thinking of just seemed so masculine. My mistake.

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