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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
Chaol

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[snips]

ha, best part (DNA - to be released in a future version of the Ecsys website due to concerns regarding mis-use of this information)

[snips]
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Perhaps the "aha!" moment for some would be the response to the question, "What if the structure of DNA was not a double-helix?"
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Following up on 'crop circles', ALL of your (legitimate) crop circles are regarding this 'shift' to the dream world.

These were not created by aliens or other beings.

These are your own impressions.

It gives you an idea of how your dream world and physical world* are the same, and becoming more obvious.

*As I've mentioned before, both worlds are physical.
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Take it day by day and you'll be fine.

"The only thing to fear is fear itself"

In each moment, look for opportunity.

Consider whatever may happen as 'growing pains'.

There is no real advice I can give you that would pertain to everyone, other than to pay attention to your dreams.

Take care, and I hope to see you soon :)
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Thankyou Choal
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Thankyou Choal
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+1000
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Following up on 'crop circles', ALL of your (legitimate) crop circles are regarding this 'shift' to the dream world.

These were not created by aliens or other beings.

These are your own impressions.

It gives you an idea of how your dream world and physical world* are the same, and becoming more obvious.

*As I've mentioned before, both worlds are physical.
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Very interesting on the crop circle. When you get a moment can you explain the center of the design and the head of the snake?
Thanks.hf
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As much as I'd like to just take this as a bit of fun, the crop circle freaked me the hell out.

:)

This morning when I left my flat, my daughter spotted a catapillar ... I've never seen one like it! It was h-u-g-e, green, and I noted how it had a little sticky out bit at the back...

.. Just like that crop circle :S

Growing pains when things don't go so well, right?

(Today has been a great day for Genius work though!)

Edit: And I guess Bye Bye for now Chaol? :( I'll miss you! Will it be on this forum we'll pobably meet again, or...?

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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
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You blew it right there.

"I" is the very essence of consciousness.

Debunked...next...
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As much as I'd like to just take this as a bit of fun, the crop circle freaked me the hell out.

:)

This morning when I left my flat, my daughter spotted a catapillar ... I've never seen one like it! It was h-u-g-e, green, and I noted how it had a little sticky out bit at the back...

.. Just like that crop circle :S

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Cool synchronicity!
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In case not everybody has seen this thread:

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

[snip]
Question: Go into detail about a few of these surprises.
Response: No doom from elenin. its not a comet, or not totally just a comet.

[snip]
Question: so what are you talking about happening like first contact or something like that?
Response: as far as elenin, i just hope we have some ham radio operators out there who can listen to it. we need to learn about ourselves and our heritage. elenin may help with this.

On Page 9, the post by "linen" at 3:40 p.m. gives a summary of what OP told us. Fascinating information!
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In case not everybody has seen this thread:

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

[snip]
Question: Go into detail about a few of these surprises.
Response: No doom from elenin. its not a comet, or not totally just a comet.

[snip]
Question: so what are you talking about happening like first contact or something like that?
Response: as far as elenin, i just hope we have some ham radio operators out there who can listen to it. we need to learn about ourselves and our heritage. elenin may help with this.

On Page 9, the post by "linen" at 3:40 p.m. gives a summary of what OP told us. Fascinating information!
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Thanks I'll check it out. hf
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(snip)

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

(snip)

I agree, interesting thread, very reassuring.
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(snip)

I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question
Thread: -- I am In The US Navy Space Command And I Have Been To Elenin -- Ask Me A Question

(snip)

I agree, interesting thread, very reassuring.
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Agreed, thanks.
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"I" is the very essence of consciousness.

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[Note: I may disappear any time within the next day or so as I prepare for my August 3 departure, so I may not have a chance to respond to all questions.]

Obviously, our (your) scientists haven't figured out what consciousness is.

Although it would make sense that "I" = consciousness, it does not make it true.
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Very interesting on the crop circle. When you get a moment can you explain the center of the design and the head of the snake?
Thanks.hf
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I will explain some of it.

[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]

The center of the expression represents your transitioning to the dream world.

The two worlds are becoming one.

Take a look at [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

and note the dates I've mentioned above, starting with September 29th. So, the middle sphere would be October 18th (when my orbit crosses yours) and the last sphere would be at the end of October (when your world crosses my path).

Just count the spheres. The size and position of the spheres mean something else, but perhaps you can figure it out.

The snake form is an other correlation with the dream world. In your ancient legends (such as your Bible) there is a serpent.

The original meaning of "sin" is nothing bad, it's just forgetfulness because you don't really remember your dreams. (I'm sure you can find this original definition somewhere.)

You are "punished" for your "sin" because you simply don't know that you're dreaming. If you remembered that you're dreaming then you'd realize that you can manipulate your experience (and, thus, no punishment).

Eating from the 'tree of knowledge of (remembering and forgetting)' is the simple act of dreaming.

You have other stories where someone eats an apple and falls into a deep sleep.

Snakes, in the oldest sense, represented "potent symbolic value". Dreams are thought of as symbolic, so the serpent form represents dreams. Other peoples attached 'deceit' to them, because they can also be deceitful.

Some legends are of a red dragon such as Nibiru. This serpent form also represents the dream world. The "planet of the crossing" can be thought of as crossing over into the dream world, not just crossing your orbit.

If you read some of your 'ancient' texts in this light they would make a lot more sense.

So, at the 'serpents' head the two worlds become one.

Hope this helps.

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Again.. YOU create these crop circles, not aliens from an other planet.

The dream world is physical, as I've mentioned before.

It is already around you, and it will encompass you in the months to come.

This is more of your natural state.

It is the state your scientists have been trying to recreate in the laboratory, programmers have been trying to recreate with software and robots, science fiction and fantasy authors have been imagining, and the state you depend on for your waking life.

You will be astounded by what you are doing (what you "will do").

You will be able to do everything that I've talked about, such as traveling through time and space and much, much more.

Is this not what you dreamed of?
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Thank you so much Chaol for sharing your knowledge with us. I would like to know if religion and all of the other political and governmental systems were formed by a higher part of us to gradually evolve while experiencing duality, or were there entities separate from us that had an agenda to create these systems of enslavement? If it's in our hands, how do we change the current system of work, government, and so on...?
Are these changes going to take place on their own in the next 2 years or do we have to do anything to make it happen?

Thanks again!
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Why are you leaving on August 3rd? Is there something special about that date? (Besides it being my birthday blink )
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Yes, thank you very much for the crop circle explanation. hf
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The dream world is physical, as I've mentioned before.

It is already around you, and it will encompass you in the months to come.

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Oh! Like a tesseract!

Now it's time for a little Carl Sagan:
Link: [link to www.dailymotion.com]

 Quoting: Chaol


Google search: Images: "tesseract"

[link to www.google.com]
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Tesseract animation:

[link to www.google.com]

abduct
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Very interesting on the crop circle. When you get a moment can you explain the center of the design and the head of the snake?
Thanks.hf
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I will explain some of it.

[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]

The center of the expression represents your transitioning to the dream world.

The two worlds are becoming one.

Take a look at [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]

and note the dates I've mentioned above, starting with September 29th. So, the middle sphere would be October 18th (when my orbit crosses yours) and the last sphere would be at the end of October (when your world crosses my path).

Just count the spheres. The size and position of the spheres mean something else, but perhaps you can figure it out.

The snake form is an other correlation with the dream world. In your ancient legends (such as your Bible) there is a serpent.

The original meaning of "sin" is nothing bad, it's just forgetfulness because you don't really remember your dreams. (I'm sure you can find this original definition somewhere.)

You are "punished" for your "sin" because you simply don't know that you're dreaming. If you remembered that you're dreaming then you'd realize that you can manipulate your experience (and, thus, no punishment).

Eating from the 'tree of knowledge of (remembering and forgetting)' is the simple act of dreaming.

You have other stories where someone eats an apple and falls into a deep sleep.

Snakes, in the oldest sense, represented "potent symbolic value". Dreams are thought of as symbolic, so the serpent form represents dreams. Other peoples attached 'deceit' to them, because they can also be deceitful.

Some legends are of a red dragon such as Nibiru. This serpent form also represents the dream world. The "planet of the crossing" can be thought of as crossing over into the dream world, not just crossing your orbit.

If you read some of your 'ancient' texts in this light they would make a lot more sense.

So, at the 'serpents' head the two worlds become one.

Hope this helps.
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So I did a little look up of the tradition of Halloween and found it's the remembrance of the fall of Lemuria. Listen to this and see how it will play with this dream world planned for the end of October.

[link to thegreenduck.com]

"The legends further tell us that a year later in the autumn when the Pleiades was exactly overhead again marking the first anniversary of the destruction of Lemuria, the survivors called forth their elders from the other side using their usual necromancy in order to seek advice.

Since the elite elders could no longer incarnate consciously into a civilization which no longer existed (conscious reincarnation is a bit trickier than it sounds), it became an annual rite for the survivors, when the Pleiades was exactly overhead, to call forth the spirits of their dead elders for advice.

And thus the tradition began that the dead walk the face of the Earth and talk to humans when the Pleiades is exactly overhead each autumn."
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Interesting, SW.

There is an other article that explores the myths that may be the basis for Halloween. It is called, eerily enough, "Witches, Comets and Planetary Cataclysms".

Here it is in a 21-page pdf: [link to www.thedotconnector.org]
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Chaol, my IP block has been banned. Are there any other forums you check?
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No.

I previously posted an introduction on the David dIcke forums but there was no response.
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Is this why you choose godlike to post your info?or you knew from the beginning everything will be posted here?? hf
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Take a look at the moon
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I guess OP is gone. It seems I have a lot of reading to do.
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I guess OP is gone. It seems I have a lot of reading to do.
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Also note some of the really good stuff that is being posted to the general forum regarding Elenin. Quite a bit of it parallels what our OP has been telling us.
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I guess OP is gone. It seems I have a lot of reading to do.
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Also note some of the really good stuff that is being posted to the general forum regarding Elenin. Quite a bit of it parallels what our OP has been telling us.
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I don't know if I am just making up associations in my head, but some of the posters seem to be using key words, such as "angle" (put between quotation marks in the text) and, a sentence later, "perspective" and "perception". ????
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I guess OP is gone. It seems I have a lot of reading to do.
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He will be back
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I love this thread! Is fair to say that I miss OP, yet I genuinely feel so very at peace and comfortable and optimistic just looking at it, despite some of the material being quite challenging. I click on this thread and it is almost as if I have entered an other room, or space, without leaving my seat; is as if there is a unique atmosphere which I can readily feel. So much substance, it almost feels physical, solid. More real than 'real', in a dreamy kinda way.

I wonder what adventures Choal is experiencing, and how all the posters are fairing with Genius an Ec. I feel a sense of connection to all you faceless, nameless people and love it that I never needed to see you, shake your hand, hug you or know even the slightest about you to feel it. You are all part of the dream that i am awaking TO.

I thank Choal and all the posters who have contributed to such an enjoyable awakening process. Of course the constraints of this language limit my ability to express myself accurately. On that note, I am still very keen to continue learning neuronics...but feel I would advance so much further with an other to bounce ideas between...anyone feel the same? Need a study buddy?





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