I think the reason people, including Chaol, say that this is all an illusion is because we are fooling ourselves. Everything is artificial, we build property on top of existing beautiful nature to provide an illusion of a new beautiful environment.. then we say "O, this is beautiful" ILLUSION. We try to convince ourselves we are smarter, better than the next person when we are all the same, ILLUSION. We have created time, space, etc.. these are concepts ILLUSIONS. These illusions have been building ontop of 1 another for centuries to the point where we find it difficult to trace back to what is REAL. So we live in 1 big illusion that we've created for ourselves. Noone is really to blame, we just are taking the artificial life and lifestyle we created and BELIEVING in it. So we believe and KNOW nothing. If there was no money, gov't, laws, religions, houses.. nothing artificial to live by, what do you think our focus would be? We tire because of the resistance to what is real, we are hungry because we want to feed our material bodies to provide energy to do material work and gain material things. But outside of all that.. there is REALITY