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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
miqq

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miqq,

I am not familiar with Ramtha. It'll be a couple of weeks before I can go to the website, but I'll take a look.
 Quoting: Chaol


OK, thanks.
An interesting article:
"The Observer Collapses the Field of Energy"

[link to ramtha.com]

Quote:
“Any solid object is made solid by the creator of that object,and the
creator of that object agrees that it is solid,so it stays solid.But the
truth is when you go to sleep tonight,your bedroom will disappear or
it will fuzz out and the light in your refrigerator will fade,because the
moment that you go to sleep you are no longer observing your room,
and the moment you no longer observe your room,it fuzzes out.”
— Ramtha
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@1562550

It sounds like you just didn't notice is before.

But, that's kind of the same thing as a "timeline jump", if there ever was such a thing.
 Quoting: Chaol


There is no way, NO WAY we could not have noticed this. This is not like my suddenly noticing small pieces of art nailed to the telephone poles I walk by every day. Nope.

The restaurant was twice the size it used to be -- and an entire wall was gone, where it opened up into the new space. Twice the amount of tables, etc. Twice the size.

We go to this restaurant about once a month!

The hubby and I walked in, looked around, looked at each other, and both said at the same time, "What the...??"
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
Chaol

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1502395,

Are you as open to possibility as you'd like to be?

Chaosl
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I "feel" like I have questions but ffs... I'm not even sure what to ask anymore.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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1502395,

Are you as open to possibility as you'd like to be?

Chaosl
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I am unsure what that means but NO feels like the correct answer.
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1491886,

If a bag of used underwear mysteriously shows up on your doorstep, are you looking inside?

If you are in a hurry to drive somewhere and see an interesting sign on a side post, are you stopping to take a look?

Are you willing to accept that you might be ignoring the answer or possibility you seek?
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1491886,

If a bag of used underwear mysteriously shows up on your doorstep, are you looking inside?

If you are in a hurry to drive somewhere and see an interesting sign on a side post, are you stopping to take a look?

Are you willing to accept that you might be ignoring the answer or possibility you seek?
 Quoting: Chaol


yes i can totally accept that i may be ignoring the answer or possibility I seek.
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1491886,

If a bag of used underwear mysteriously shows up on your doorstep, are you looking inside?

If you are in a hurry to drive somewhere and see an interesting sign on a side post, are you stopping to take a look?

Are you willing to accept that you might be ignoring the answer or possibility you seek?
 Quoting: Chaol


yes i can totally accept that i may be ignoring the answer or possibility I seek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556


but i am also much more open than I was not too very long ago.
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Thread: DON'T DIE

Interesting ;)
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Oh, oh...
Me next! :D
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
miqq

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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Is that easy?
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Oh, oh...
Me next! :D
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


I am still slogging through the thread -- but reading the PDF version someone posted (on page 179), which includes only Chaol's posts. So (assuming you've been following the thread a lot longer) tell me, does Chaol do this with everyone?

I am just curious. It doesn't upset me; it amuses me. It could be syncronistic coincidence... it could be telepathy... whatever it is, it's amusing and fun to ponder.
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Thread: DON'T DIE

Interesting ;)
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Awesome find Mutant.
Many striking similarities/parallels to Chaol's message.
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
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1562550,

Have you noticed yet that it's 3x bigger than originally?

Or have you noticed that it is a Korean restaurant?

And that it is is sewing place?
 Quoting: Chaol


No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


/jealous, is it too late for me to jump on the "lets make it more relative to me" bandwagon? ^^
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to miqq,

“Any solid object is made solid by the creator of that object,and the creator of that object agrees that it is solid,so it stays solid.But the truth is when you go to sleep tonight,your bedroom will disappear or it will fuzz out and the light in your refrigerator will fade,because the moment that you go to sleep you are no longer observing your room,
and the moment you no longer observe your room,it fuzzes out.”
— Ramtha


In this example, the room is more than the room you see (or observe).

The room is everywhere, as is your breath or the sound of your voice.

To speak more plainly:

When you're not looking at the room, it isn't there because it doesn't need to be. There is no need for you to perceive beyond your perception. And your perception is all you could possibly know.

When you leave the room to go outside and sit under a tree, the room "refashions" itself as the tree and what you experience.

In this way there is only one object in the universe. And that is your perspective.
Chaol

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5877556,

When we think the answer is something specific we are already experiencing it in our reality.

Even if it is just 'in your mind' it is as valid as physical experience.

There's no need for it to represent itself again in your reality (physically) because it has done so all ready (in other ways).

Be open to whatever it may be and let it come into your physical experience.
Chaol

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MutantMessiah,

Me next! :D

It is all just a coincidence, right?

Probably.
Chaol

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1562550,

Pure coincidence ;)
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
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No but I am open to possibility.

Two nights ago I dreamed I was going to live in Korea -- South Korea, to be specific. Also my daughter came by to borrow sewing machine this weekend, and I told her she needed to find a sewing store and pick up some machine oil for it.

Hope you are enjoying the view inside my head. :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


Is that easy?
 Quoting: miqq


Can you clarify your question? Are you asking if it is easy to get inside my head?

I'd say possibly... though I only know of one other person who can do it quite so easily as Chaol seems to be able to do it. Then again perhaps Chaol is not doing it on purpose or even aware he is doing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1562550


/jealous, is it too late for me to jump on the "lets make it more relative to me" bandwagon? ^^
 Quoting: OverTheRainbow


Don't be so fast to be jealous!

When someone first gets inside your head (telepathy) it is a rather freaky experience. This has been going on with me and another now for a couple of years. At first, you try to dismiss it with logic -- it's just coincidence, or seeing patterns you want to see, or lucky guesses. Then as it goes on and the coincidences and lucky guesses pile up, when you cannot possibly dismiss it with logic anymore... you start wondering if you have finally gone insane. Since I know I'm no more or less insane than most, I then started to do research -- again, grasping for the logic behind it.

Along the way you find yourself vacillating between marvel and wonderment, and feeling like you are laid bare and there's no thought in your head that is private anymore. That can get annoying, uncomfortable, etc.

But, now I am marveling that Chaol seems to be able to do it too (whether deliberately or not) ... I'm okay with it because a lot of what Chaol writes about are concepts I've also been exploring, starting around the same time Chaol began posting, long before I discovered his threads. Yes, these threads are very relative to me. Amazingly relative. Chaol is simply putting together for me some of the missing and finer pieces. Hence why I was so willing to jump right in and create a representation and give it all a shot!
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5877556,

When we think the answer is something specific we are already experiencing it in our reality.

Even if it is just 'in your mind' it is as valid as physical experience.

There's no need for it to represent itself again in your reality (physically) because it has done so all ready (in other ways).

Be open to whatever it may be and let it come into your physical experience.
 Quoting: Chaol


That's logic that I can follow.
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1562550,

You haven't seen it yet but would you like to know how it's done?

Imagine a "stranger over the internet" telling the average Gloria their innermost secrets and details about their life (stuff even they don't know yet).

What do you think the emotional and psychological response would be?

Sometimes it is more helpful to ignore most of 'reality'.

And this supreme ignorance we call logic and sanity.

To see 'beyond' we must become insane while re-defining what logic is. The same as you would experience if you suddenly appeared on a world 435 light years away.
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OverTheRainbow,

What would you like to know or say?
 Quoting: Chaol


I just read OTR's mind. He wants to know how you read other's minds.
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1288466,

I'll try to be more clear in future.

However, "accuracy" (or whatever it'd be called) is sacrificed for it.
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1288466,

And OTR just read your mind! Unfortunately, no one knows how the 0s get into a box of Cheerios lol
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1288466,

I'll try to be more clear in future.

However, "accuracy" (or whatever it'd be called) is sacrificed for it.
 Quoting: Chaol


;-)





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