Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

What is Chaol's message here? (But to change the meaning of your current physicality requires that you do something that you probably do not want to do.)

How would you apply the message to your perspective, to break free from solid surroundings, to redefine what it means to be "me".?

Is this the change we feel coming?

How easy you make it all sound!

I don't think any of us implied that we're relying on Chaol for these changes- just that we sense something different, and want something different.

Your post reads more like a textbook than something that's applicable to the real world. I've found that making changes is messy business because reality has so many variables; it's not just me (at the moment). I can intend and do all I want, but the rest of the world has to catch up. And until they do, it's absolute chaos.

I have some thoughts on applicable methods.

One action that can help you obtain more control over your experiences is to actively control what you are feeling in any moment - using the feeling of appreciation or excitement as your anchor point. You can do this by recalling an experience you had which filled you with either of those emotions. Go beyond just remembering and try to re-experience it by feeling it also within your body - how it felt to laugh, how your body feels when excited, the surge of energy, the wide-awakeness, etc. Get to the point where you can re-immerse yourself in the experience of it. If you've had no experiences that you are able to do this with, then you can use imagination by conjuring up day dreams that excite you or watching a movie that excites you, gets you into a state of appreciation or excitement. You can even create a word or symbol that you look at when feeling this way until you've done it often enough that just looking at the symbol or thinking the word immediately brings the sensation of appreciation or excitement back. Eventually, you become so familiar with the sensation of either emotion, that you can recall it at will immediately without needing a symbol or the effort of recalling the past.

Once in either emotional state, take a quiet moment to memorize the sensations you experience within your self - how it feels, like you are wearing a suit of excitement or appreciation. Like you are emitting an energy - become familiar with the sensation of it, it can be your anchor. This will become your predominant energetic state, and when you deviate from it, you will notice more quickly (as in be in conscious awareness of how you are reacting to things), and you will be able to bring yourself back to the preferred state quickly. Things brings you in control of your energy.

This new energetic state will become your dominant state. When you deliberately bring yourself to it and focus on it, you will be making it stronger which will attract more of the same energy to you. Since at any time you could be emitting a complex arrangement of frequencies, this controlling of your predominant frequency would begin to influence others around you as they begin to resonate with that frequency. It would be like hitting a tuning fork and that tuning fork begins to make nearby tuning forks vibrate, although much less. If other tuning forks nearby are vibrating at a different frequency, they could influence the original tuning fork unless the original one is itself hit continuously so it can emit its own frequency.

This makes sense more if you imagine yourself and every person to be a source of energy. You have the infinite spectrum of energy available to you and your system of beliefs is the filter that you place over this infinite energy to filter out all but what you believe. For example, someone can believe elves live in the center of the Earth, but you don't believe in elves or a hollow earth, so you filter out this energy. As the other person resonates with this belief, it cannot trigger a harmonic resonance within you, because your belief filter has blocked this frequency - there's no energy coming in at that particular frequency to resonate with. If you open yourself up to the possibility, then your filter may open a bit and you start perceiving information about elves or a hollow Earth. Then it is your choice whether to reject it or go with it (this is just a fun example). Every belief is a choice. Every interaction you have with anything is a reflection of a belief. All of it is attracted to you based on the energies you radiate. You stand at the center of your own universe. You can never truly know what anyone else perceives because all of what you perceive is you - your reflections. Interactions with other people are possible because at least part of your energies are in alignment - they resonate. Change this energy you are emitting, then the interaction changes. That's where the control of energy mentioned above comes in handy. Go back to this energy, change the way you respond to things you perceive based on how you would prefer to respond, not based on your reflexive reaction - this reaction is betraying a belief, a belief that you can change if you can recognize what it is. For instance, if you want to punch someone in the face because they tossed an insult at you, then let your imagination do it so the desire passes through you, then recall your anchor point emotion and proceed from there. This is your point of inspiration. Your inspiration will lead you where you want to go.

Lol.. the rest of the world?

I relate to your post and your other respondents.

I think that is why I stopped checking these threads for updates daily, and tried to get on with my life. I just couldn't figure out how to apply what I have learnt here to (for example) my health issues, I was hoping if I just ignored them (made them less relevant) they would go away. But they are hard to ignore.

I also struggled with how to combine what I have learnt from this thread and being a mother. I am not at all satisfied with the domestic duties and organizational aspects of being a parent, and I continue to send my kids to school where I know they are taught what to think, not how to think. I don't yet know how to live within this culture yet be not of it...except in my thoughts.

I too feel like I am just waiting for something to happen. Something that will provide the impetus of change and new foundations for living my life, and guiding my children in a way which makes more sense than this current reality, and in a way that just feels right.

Sometimes this cyber reality feels more real and meaningful than my waking life, it is comforting to know that others feel the same. Although I have never touched, seen or heard any contributors to this thread, you have all helped greatly expand my concept of me. And I can't think of any other 'growth' experience that I value higher. So thank you all.

Same here. I feel like "my life is in standby" as well, for some years already.

Some things start to go well though (since January I got my dream car (I know that's materialistic... ;-) ), and since a few weeks I got what comes close to my dream job).

I have some thoughts on applicable methods.

One action that can help you obtain more control over your experiences is to actively control what you are feeling in any moment - using the feeling of appreciation or excitement as your anchor point. You can do this by recalling an experience you had which filled you with either of those emotions. Go beyond just remembering and try to re-experience it by feeling it also within your body - how it felt to laugh, how your body feels when excited, the surge of energy, the wide-awakeness, etc. Get to the point where you can re-immerse yourself in the experience of it. If you've had no experiences that you are able to do this with, then you can use imagination by conjuring up day dreams that excite you or watching a movie that excites you, gets you into a state of appreciation or excitement. You can even create a word or symbol that you look at when feeling this way until you've done it often enough that just looking at the symbol or thinking the word immediately brings the sensation of appreciation or excitement back. Eventually, you become so familiar with the sensation of either emotion, that you can recall it at will immediately without needing a symbol or the effort of recalling the past.

Once in either emotional state, take a quiet moment to memorize the sensations you experience within your self - how it feels, like you are wearing a suit of excitement or appreciation. Like you are emitting an energy - become familiar with the sensation of it, it can be your anchor. This will become your predominant energetic state, and when you deviate from it, you will notice more quickly (as in be in conscious awareness of how you are reacting to things), and you will be able to bring yourself back to the preferred state quickly. Things brings you in control of your energy.

This new energetic state will become your dominant state. When you deliberately bring yourself to it and focus on it, you will be making it stronger which will attract more of the same energy to you. Since at any time you could be emitting a complex arrangement of frequencies, this controlling of your predominant frequency would begin to influence others around you as they begin to resonate with that frequency. It would be like hitting a tuning fork and that tuning fork begins to make nearby tuning forks vibrate, although much less. If other tuning forks nearby are vibrating at a different frequency, they could influence the original tuning fork unless the original one is itself hit continuously so it can emit its own frequency.

This makes sense more if you imagine yourself and every person to be a source of energy. You have the infinite spectrum of energy available to you and your system of beliefs is the filter that you place over this infinite energy to filter out all but what you believe. For example, someone can believe elves live in the center of the Earth, but you don't believe in elves or a hollow earth, so you filter out this energy. As the other person resonates with this belief, it cannot trigger a harmonic resonance within you, because your belief filter has blocked this frequency - there's no energy coming in at that particular frequency to resonate with. If you open yourself up to the possibility, then your filter may open a bit and you start perceiving information about elves or a hollow Earth. Then it is your choice whether to reject it or go with it (this is just a fun example). Every belief is a choice. Every interaction you have with anything is a reflection of a belief. All of it is attracted to you based on the energies you radiate. You stand at the center of your own universe. You can never truly know what anyone else perceives because all of what you perceive is you - your reflections. Interactions with other people are possible because at least part of your energies are in alignment - they resonate. Change this energy you are emitting, then the interaction changes. That's where the control of energy mentioned above comes in handy. Go back to this energy, change the way you respond to things you perceive based on how you would prefer to respond, not based on your reflexive reaction - this reaction is betraying a belief, a belief that you can change if you can recognize what it is. For instance, if you want to punch someone in the face because they tossed an insult at you, then let your imagination do it so the desire passes through you, then recall your anchor point emotion and proceed from there. This is your point of inspiration. Your inspiration will lead you where you want to go.

HOTH

I went on a long journey recently to visit a friend. It seems clear to me that what happened was I instantly translocated to be in his physical presence. However, my brain needed a logic and conspired to imagine the car I got into, a series of actions called 'driving', a varied landscape and a sense of time and only then did I allow myself to arrive in my friend's presence.

I went on a long journey recently to visit a friend. It seems clear to me that what happened was I instantly translocated to be in his physical presence. However, my brain needed a logic and conspired to imagine the car I got into, a series of actions called 'driving', a varied landscape and a sense of time and only then did I allow myself to arrive in my friend's presence.

Following Marshwiggle's post. We always follow a certain set of rules to accomplish whatever we do in this illusion. We already know its an illusion that's why the rules have been made for things to "happen".

Having a clean body would not be automatic because we know what happens when people don't wash themselves. So to get clean we follow some set of rules in place that can make this possible: bath, shower, swimming whatever. So these rules make it possible to get clean. Whenever someone discovers a new way to clean and demonstrates to is how it's done, then we all jump on board and follow those new set of rules. It's all about accomplishment following a set of rules in this illusion.

I don't know but I was looking at the sky last night and remembered Chaol saying "when you look at the sun, you look at yourself". Although there was no sun but the clouds were breathtakingly beautiful just contemplating that I was looking at myself as I looked at the sky. But really why are clouds so breathtaking. Can't you just look at them forever. Always in motion. It even showed me a formation of a heart shape yesterday but I'm sure that was definitely me giving myself a wink so to speak.

I hope we all try to figure out how to break down this illusion of life to the barest minimum. What I'm trying to say is, even if we don't figure out what it's all about, let's give it a damn good try! We have had all the pointers necessary from Chaol and others. We still need more but lets work with what we've got (like we're already doing I guess)

Trust me, life gets very exciting for lazy old me when I think about these things!

Thanks for reading.

I don't know but I was looking at the sky last night and remembered Chaol saying "when you look at the sun, you look at yourself".

I really only come to glp for these threads, to check up on Chaol's latest teaching and my peer's observations. I find it fascinating that we've been advised over and over again that we need only "be" the change we want to see in our realm of existence. Yet, we still focus on what we do not prefer and make that more relative.

I guess my time on glp is spent refreshing my recent threads and creeping Chaol's username to see if he happened to log on... lol (stalkerish I know). I noticed Chaol had logged in at least twice yesterday morning (from my perspective early in the am then closer to noon) and at least once this morning so far and yet he still has 1737 posts. Chaol, I appreciate you coming on and seeing what's up, but why no additions to your thread?

The (next) "nexus" point is tomorrow (from detroit michigan) right? Or today elsewhere (for those already living the 26th).

If I(we) am(are) to adequately "experience" the "change" I'd(we'd) have to perceive it as already present. Yet I find myself constantly evaluating my now for minute transitional identifiers to point at and say "aha! there it is"...

I've had dozens of these moments since I started evaluating my nows for the change. My waking life has truly become like a dream... I notice (often) in conversation that I am aware of what the other person will say next, I'll say it first (sometimes) and they will advise that they were about to say it. Other times, I let them say it and allow the subtle satisfaction of knowing I had already been aware. The most profound experience (as of late) has been when I do not interact (overtly) but instead silently question another internally, only for the "other" to respond as if I had asked verbally.

It is not like a feeling of deja vu, but instead as if I am resting in a groove and the pattern is already obvious.

Anyone else having similar experiences in the last few months?

Have you used the exercises in the other thread to reach the sun? Has anybody else noticed that when you are on the sun or are "being" the sun, that when you gaze out from that position that all of the heavenly bodies within the rays of your influence are bright? That the sun never sees the "dark" side of a celestial body?

What is Chaol's message here? (But to change the meaning of your current physicality requires that you do something that you probably do not want to do.)

How would you apply the message to your perspective, to break free from solid surroundings, to redefine what it means to be "me".?

Is this the change we feel coming?

A few pages back, chaol asked someone what "relative" means to them. I would like to suggest that "relative" means significant or important.

If something has no significance at all, it is irrelative. If something is important, then it is relative.

Sorry. I meant to use the words "relevant" and "irrelevant". I can't go back and edit the prior post, so please substitute these for "relative" and "irrelative".

Hi. Here is the thread:

Meeting in the new Dream reality
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

Sorry to say that you'll need to start from the first post and go most of the way through it.

It is good that you are also studying this thread, because it will give you a basis from which to spring into the more advanced activities.

You're gonna have questions! That is okay. Perhaps you could post to the "Dream Reality" thread and keep it bumped.