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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Sorry for the delay, Im the poster who is working on the program.

I originally typed out a massive post explaining everything only to get IP banned after hitting submit.

Changed my IP typed a medium sized post, hit submit, IP was banned again.

Third time, I upgraded my account, typed a small post explaining it all, hit submit and it didn't work!?!?!? Also Yes im a fool for not saving my post lol anyway!

Fourth time at 12:21am trying a new image host -.-


IMAGE ( [link to i1358.photobucket.com] )


The image above roughly shows the program and how you translate your words into EC, the aim of the program is to let the user create a custom dictionary in EC.

I will do a better write up tomorrow sorry guys/gals, Ive just typed too much, I need to leave the screen before I go mad.
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I loved it! The format is direct to the point and easy to follow. Excellent job.
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Sorry for the delay, Im the poster who is working on the program.

I originally typed out a massive post explaining everything only to get IP banned after hitting submit.

Changed my IP typed a medium sized post, hit submit, IP was banned again.

Third time, I upgraded my account, typed a small post explaining it all, hit submit and it didn't work!?!?!? Also Yes im a fool for not saving my post lol anyway!

Fourth time at 12:21am trying a new image host -.-


IMAGE ( [link to i1358.photobucket.com] )


The image above roughly shows the program and how you translate your words into EC, the aim of the program is to let the user create a custom dictionary in EC.

I will do a better write up tomorrow sorry guys/gals, Ive just typed too much, I need to leave the screen before I go mad.
 Quoting: LeKing



I loved it! The format is direct to the point and easy to follow. Excellent job.
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Agreed. His work is truly a gift.

Do you have a feel for the language yet? I don't. I'll probably just have to experiment to begin with.

I couldn't figure out how to drive a car...until my dad told me, one time, to back the car out of the drive-way. That did it for me. I got it.

So, my plan is to just try ordinary things I'm used to before the GREAT ADVENTURE!!!!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 10/24/2012 09:00 PM
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What is it about the illusion that frightens you? That you won't ever be free of it?
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since we have only experienced this illusion for 'all of our life' we are afraid of what lies there waiting for us when we decide to step out of it, because we have never known anything different.
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This doesn't even compute for me.

Isn't the whole point of the Language is so we can create a storyline to where we want to go? We won't create anything we haven't known. It's not possible.
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since we have only experienced this illusion for 'all of our life' we are afraid of what lies there waiting for us when we decide to step out of it, because we have never known anything different.
 Quoting: Unit3




This doesn't even compute for me.

Isn't the whole point of the Language is so we can create a storyline to where we want to go? We won't create anything we haven't known. It's not possible.
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Please come back. You didn't leave your comment! I want to know what you have to say.
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53 times round the sun Sue here u2efine
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I'm the youngest here? 22.
 Quoting: Gespenst


Na, as far as we know, Chaol is 12.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


baby
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There are some amazing 5, 6, 7 and 8 year olds on the planet right now.



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Na, as far as we know, Chaol is 12.
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I left my age before but deleted it. A few less than double that.

But it doesn't matter so much, does it? :)
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the story is a lie.

Have you ever experienced anything outside of this illusion? Is there anything outside of this illusion?
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One other viewpoint is that natural knowledge was occulted and subverted by those who would dominate, while quashing it's availability to the general citizenry.


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Interesting viewpoint... I like it.
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Me too, well said!
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Na, as far as we know, Chaol is 12.
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I left my age before but deleted it. A few less than double that.

But it doesn't matter so much, does it? :)
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Nope, it really doesn't :)
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Na, as far as we know, Chaol is 12.
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I left my age before but deleted it. A few less than double that.

But it doesn't matter so much, does it? :)
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I suppose it could, if we were going out for a beer.
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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53 times round the sun Sue here
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Sue! You're Sue! How do you do? :)
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I do really well, thanks, Kath :)
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Anyone else trying the Expanded Perspective Exercise?

I'm a bit stuck with changing the value of the elements.
For instance, if I'm thinking of getting from here to there...

Symbol - car
Interaction - road
Possiblity - landscape
Logic - get in and out

So, if I choose to keep the symbol, the car, I'm stuck with ideas to change the interaction and the possibility.
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I am a 31 year old boy.
hf
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


33 year old Laura here btw 5a
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53 times round the sun Sue here u2efine
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I'm the youngest here? 22.
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I'm 22! hf
Cat
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53 times round the sun Sue here
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Sue! You're Sue! How do you do? :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


I do really well, thanks, Kath :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


Anyone else trying the Expanded Perspective Exercise?

I'm a bit stuck with changing the value of the elements.
For instance, if I'm thinking of getting from here to there...

Symbol - car
Interaction - road
Possiblity - landscape
Logic - get in and out

So, if I choose to keep the symbol, the car, I'm stuck with ideas to change the interaction and the possibility.
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These were me, I got logged out
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53 times round the sun Sue here
 Quoting: Marshwiggle

Sue! You're Sue! How do you do? :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


I do really well, thanks, Kath :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


Anyone else trying the Expanded Perspective Exercise?

I'm a bit stuck with changing the value of the elements.
For instance, if I'm thinking of getting from here to there...

Symbol - car
Interaction - road
Possiblity - landscape
Logic - get in and out

So, if I choose to keep the symbol, the car, I'm stuck with ideas to change the interaction and the possibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


These were me, I got logged out
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I'm not sure if I can help much but remember (bear in mind) the car could be a possibility and the landscape could be the symbol so it should be easier to manipulate when you remember that.
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I LOVE Neuronics! Chaol was right, it works very fast in changing perceptions. Just made up a string this morning and won myself a tenner on the lottery 5a
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Sue! You're Sue! How do you do? :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


I do really well, thanks, Kath :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


Anyone else trying the Expanded Perspective Exercise?

I'm a bit stuck with changing the value of the elements.
For instance, if I'm thinking of getting from here to there...

Symbol - car
Interaction - road
Possiblity - landscape
Logic - get in and out

So, if I choose to keep the symbol, the car, I'm stuck with ideas to change the interaction and the possibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


These were me, I got logged out
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I'm not sure if I can help much but remember (bear in mind) the car could be a possibility and the landscape could be the symbol so it should be easier to manipulate when you remember that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26270017


So, do you mean that it would be effective to simply swop them round, rather than think up new elements? Thank you, Friend
And glad to hear of your win :)

Last Edited by Marshwiggle on 10/25/2012 01:59 PM
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I do really well, thanks, Kath :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


Anyone else trying the Expanded Perspective Exercise?

I'm a bit stuck with changing the value of the elements.
For instance, if I'm thinking of getting from here to there...

Symbol - car
Interaction - road
Possiblity - landscape
Logic - get in and out

So, if I choose to keep the symbol, the car, I'm stuck with ideas to change the interaction and the possibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26100408


These were me, I got logged out
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I'm not sure if I can help much but remember (bear in mind) the car could be a possibility and the landscape could be the symbol so it should be easier to manipulate when you remember that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26270017


So, do you mean that it would be effective to simply swop them round, rather than think up new elements? Thank you, Friend
And glad to hear of your win :)
 Quoting: Marshwiggle




Anything really can be any of the elements from your perspective. The car can be a symbol (wow, nice car); interaction (used in getting to a destination); possibility (you can literally end up anywhere); logic (arriving at a destination). So when you feel stuck, you can change it till it suits what you're trying to achieve. It's not really easy to explain in words.

Remember we're not trying to create anything because nothing is created but perceived. I'm not sure what this expanded perspective exercise is meant to really do but from what I've learned of Neuronics, I can propose (purely as an example!):

Always need an input and an output, so

Input high symbol (car); output high interaction (driving the car through roads etc) so Neuronicon will be OO as in BOOK
Input high interaction (going past the different landscapes, scenery); output high possibility (you can literally end up anywhere!) so Neuronicon will be OR as in SORT
Finally you can input neutral possibility (again the car can be used as a possibility since its an object and any object really is just a possibility); and output high logic (get to desired destination in the desired time) so Neuronicon will be SUMI.
Now these three neuronicons now form a string that represents what you want to perceive. Learn their pronunciations and their shapes and you're well on your way.

I'm still learning and I hope to learn even more but I must say the stuff really and truly works not just because I won some money for my lunch today :)
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Sorry for the delay, Im the poster who is working on the program.

I originally typed out a massive post explaining everything only to get IP banned after hitting submit.

Changed my IP typed a medium sized post, hit submit, IP was banned again.

Third time, I upgraded my account, typed a small post explaining it all, hit submit and it didn't work!?!?!? Also Yes im a fool for not saving my post lol anyway!

Fourth time at 12:21am trying a new image host -.-


IMAGE ( [link to i1358.photobucket.com] )


The image above roughly shows the program and how you translate your words into EC, the aim of the program is to let the user create a custom dictionary in EC.

I will do a better write up tomorrow sorry guys/gals, Ive just typed too much, I need to leave the screen before I go mad.
 Quoting: LeKing



I loved it! The format is direct to the point and easy to follow. Excellent job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1633800




Agreed. His work is truly a gift.

Do you have a feel for the language yet? I don't. I'll probably just have to experiment to begin with.

I couldn't figure out how to drive a car...until my dad told me, one time, to back the car out of the drive-way. That did it for me. I got it.

So, my plan is to just try ordinary things I'm used to before the GREAT ADVENTURE!!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


Feel'n...I said yes! I have/has been using Ecsys system for almost a year and still learning new way. I found myself that work for me, I always remember and apply the 4 Code of Ecsys (1. House of Orbia 2. House of Kosmosis 3. House of Chaos 4. House of Thoht)in daily basis whether I am at work, home and etc. Genius system does worked.

I work in IT dept. and my jobs is to test the program before to put into production. Yes and agreed...he did excellent job and I look forward to use it.
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33 year old Laura here btw 5a
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53 times round the sun Sue here u2efine
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I'm the youngest here? 22.
 Quoting: Gespenst


I'm 22! hf
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21 = I WIN!

My name is also Jesse... dance
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Sorry for the delay, Im the poster who is working on the program.

I originally typed out a massive post explaining everything only to get IP banned after hitting submit.

Changed my IP typed a medium sized post, hit submit, IP was banned again.

Third time, I upgraded my account, typed a small post explaining it all, hit submit and it didn't work!?!?!? Also Yes im a fool for not saving my post lol anyway!

Fourth time at 12:21am trying a new image host -.-


IMAGE ( [link to i1358.photobucket.com] )


The image above roughly shows the program and how you translate your words into EC, the aim of the program is to let the user create a custom dictionary in EC.

I will do a better write up tomorrow sorry guys/gals, Ive just typed too much, I need to leave the screen before I go mad.
 Quoting: LeKing



I loved it! The format is direct to the point and easy to follow. Excellent job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1633800




Agreed. His work is truly a gift.

Do you have a feel for the language yet? I don't. I'll probably just have to experiment to begin with.

I couldn't figure out how to drive a car...until my dad told me, one time, to back the car out of the drive-way. That did it for me. I got it.

So, my plan is to just try ordinary things I'm used to before the GREAT ADVENTURE!!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


Feel'n...I said yes! I have/has been using Ecsys system for almost a year and still learning new way. I found myself that work for me, I always remember and apply the 4 Code of Ecsys (1. House of Orbia 2. House of Kosmosis 3. House of Chaos 4. House of Thoht)in daily basis whether I am at work, home and etc. Genius system does worked.

I work in IT dept. and my jobs is to test the program before to put into production. Yes and agreed...he did excellent job and I look forward to use it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1633800




Dang! Almost a year? I really appreciate this. I'm thrilled to get to talk to someone that has done it this long.

So you just use Genius with the Code basically? I'm using Genius and code also. I interact with anything new that pops up the best I can. And, that's about it so far but I can say, things definitely keep popping up on a more regular basis.

I don't quite understand the rest of the information on the website yet. It's kind of hard for me because I've used my own way for making symbols and it seems easy to me.

Do you do the input/output thing too?

Thanks again.

hf
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The only way I can learn anything is to give it a real go. I'm very lazy (my own opinion) so I don't always give it the real go it deserves. But with anything that excites me, I want to know all about it!
Didn't make a proper genius model till about 2/3 weeks ago and just started on Neuronics about a week ago. But I think I have got the basics because I either had a shift in perspective due to the genius model, or I was hungry enough for the knowledge to start to apply it.
If you study it even at a glance, the concept is easy to get. One of the most basic rule about the neuronicons is that there is an input and an output for each icon. This is the way it works. So it's not a matter of choice. It's a given.

This is what I have understood so far. Please correct me if I'm on the wrong track.
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There are some amazing 5, 6, 7 and 8 year olds on the planet right now.



[link to youtu.be]
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Thank you for this, by the way, Unit - it blew me away!
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Anything really can be any of the elements from your perspective. The car can be a symbol (wow, nice car); interaction (used in getting to a destination); possibility (you can literally end up anywhere); logic (arriving at a destination). So when you feel stuck, you can change it till it suits what you're trying to achieve. It's not really easy to explain in words.

Remember we're not trying to create anything because nothing is created but perceived. I'm not sure what this expanded perspective exercise is meant to really do but from what I've learned of Neuronics, I can propose (purely as an example!):

Always need an input and an output, so

Input high symbol (car); output high interaction (driving the car through roads etc) so Neuronicon will be OO as in BOOK
Input high interaction (going past the different landscapes, scenery); output high possibility (you can literally end up anywhere!) so Neuronicon will be OR as in SORT
Finally you can input neutral possibility (again the car can be used as a possibility since its an object and any object really is just a possibility); and output high logic (get to desired destination in the desired time) so Neuronicon will be SUMI.
Now these three neuronicons now form a string that represents what you want to perceive. Learn their pronunciations and their shapes and you're well on your way.

I'm still learning and I hope to learn even more but I must say the stuff really and truly works not just because I won some money for my lunch today :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8552005


Thanks, AC, for your comments. I've not got into neuronics yet - just took a brief look a year or so ago.


I understand the Expanded Perspective Exercise to be very important - it's like something amazing is hidden behind a veil and I can't quite perceive it - yet!
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There are some amazing 5, 6, 7 and 8 year olds on the planet right now.



[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: Unit3


Thank you for this, by the way, Unit - it blew me away!
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YW. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

He is amazing and there are others I know personally or know of, who don't have YT vid.

We are surrounded. scared

lmao

Last Edited by ERE3 on 10/25/2012 07:10 PM
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Chaol,

Thank you for teaching us why the birth certificate is such an important symbol and the strange form of logic that applies to it.
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Hello!

I have been living in this world for some time now.

I came from a place also named Earth, much like this planet. There are a number of differences between my home and yours.

I thought it would be interesting to share a few things with you that are relatively common knowledge where I am from. My reasons for doing so will probably be more apparent in the future.

* Consciousness does not exist (but relationships do)
* Matter is gravity that has been structured
* We are not human (we are perspectives)
* When the totality of something cannot be grasped, it appears infinite.
* Space is not physical
* There is no "now" or "here", but relationships.

We use a kind of language like you use numbers here. Numbers, representations of abstract concepts, were 'invented' to work more easily with the world around us. Our language is no different.

If it were invented today it would probably be thought of as existing in parallel with science. A new kind of science.

This language also enables the shifting of perspective like a kind of mental technology. Some of you may find it quite interesting.

If anyone is interested in learning more please let me know.

Thanks.
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No thanks, not interested. Prove that consciousness does not exist.
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Am I a "starseed"
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If your query was for me, I do not know what a starseed is so would not be able to properly respond.
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Thank you Chaol for your answer. You are probably right.
About tree on Mars. That's impossible.......Oh! Wait
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The physical Earth is larger, of course, but the surface is mostly water.

Mars has very little visible surface water.

More high-resolution photos of the more populated areas of the planet would produce better images of forests.
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I would read every single post and absorb all the information and energy I could.

Edit: And now, after reading your posts, I see that I would limit my perspective by doing so.
 Quoting: Unit3


There was a time when such beings were worshipped as gods. Today would be no different.

I'd rather just be a guy in a cafe, or just a stranger on the bus.

And, most likely, your perspective would indeed be limited. The 'value' would be satisfied externally, much in the same way we can accomplish amazing physical feats ourselves but would probably rather watch an athlete do it.





GLP