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Message Subject Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Poster Handle Unit3
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The former is easily measured the latter is less-so.

Why not make it more specific? For example,

"I can go out of my body to ______ after I ________ and breath rhythmically for _______ minutes."

When you define it...
 Quoting: Chaol

I see what you're saying and agree. Thank you. I 've not been specific enough.


The reason we cannot is because it would require us to become a different kind of human being.

Do you realise what these abilities would mean for your current life? Would you be ready for constant sennight sickliness when rapidly changing betwixt worlds? Seeing things that the person next to you does not see?

You'd have to change your whole personhood to get to that state.

Think about what it would mean and you're half-way there.
 Quoting: Chaol

I do think about it, often. I wonder if I'd have to "die" or get(pretend to be?) mentally "insane" in the objective perspective to obtain what I am looking for. I am feeling out a good balance of subjective "inter-dimensional" travel and living a "normal" life. I'd like to allow my wife (a devout atheist) and family(christian based apatheists) to remain relevant. I do see them slowly changing perspective as I do (since they are values of myself)... and where they had previously said I was misunderstanding reality, they're beginning to show a glimmer of understanding.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda

The "I'd like to allow my wife (a devout atheist) and family(christian based apatheists) to remain relevant." part may be quite difficult, unless of course you're willing to change an entire world (this one) to bring them closer to your new one.

Or you can find a way to do it in ways that are relevant to them. Making it a game, for example.
 Quoting: Chaol

My Wife and Family, as I perceive them "here" are already recurring characters in my outer-realm experience. Similar to the way the cast followed Dorothy to Oz(a realm she experienced in a spontaneous oob). Repeating patterns of relevancy seen through a kaleidoscope of perspective.

(thanks again Chaol)
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda

Jesse, do you have any idea how your family follows you into the outer-realm experiences? I feel I have one family member that I can bring along with what I'm going to present next as my Genius goal, but I'm not sure about my husband.

Chaol said to make it a game, but I don't think I know how to do this with another realm. Any ideas?
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