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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
Marshwiggle

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Does a soul have to exist to have feelings? If so, perhaps your definition of a soul and Chaol's definition of perspective may be the same thing.

hf
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I like that, Jesse
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Rather than a lion's head on the body of a woman, imagine a bar magnet. Better yet, imagine a magnet in the shape of a long cylinder, standing on end. Now, imagine copper wire being wound around this magnet. The south pole is at your feet. The north pole is your head. The south pole sucks up energies from below, the north pole radiates those energies outward. The copper wire conducts electricity, which also causes the paths of energy to swirl up the cylinder, rather than move in a straight line.

Can you not see how this is the key? The bridge? The portal?

THIS is what is represented by a symbol from 30,000 years ago, before it was corrupted into all sorts of scary imagery. That imagery may very well have been dramatized in order to keep you away from knowing something.
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Good post :)
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double post again, not me, it's GLP

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I didn't see it, but did Dodec ever re-emerge from the dream to share what he/she knew?

:D
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I wish!

Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh!

Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


coffeecup
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I'm still here lurking about.

I attempted the dream world exercises once again, however when I close my eye I see nothing. So visualizing Sekhmet and making it "feel real" was a no go for me.

So sorry, dodec doesn't "know"...... yet

I'm still working on a lot of things and will share my progress, but as of now I have nothing noteworthy to tell.

I am of course always here to answer any question or clear up confusions if I am able to.




Actually, to keep spirits high, I'll start posting something every day that I think will help the community.


Tip 1: At one point Chaol said learning the ecsys language was not even possible until the fundamentals of the genius are completely understood.
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Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something.

Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true.


And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths.

If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game.
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Everything is nothing and nothing is everything.
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Why and when did nothing decide it wanted to be everything?

Thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27574130


Nothing wants to be nothing.

To answer what I think was the intent of your question. It was shortly before red decided it wanted to be a colour and water decided it wanted to be wet.
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If you are what you say you are, then you should be able to forsee the future.. My question is, on dec 21st, will the ascension occur or will some other worldy event occur? please tell me your insight Chaol as I am sure you know the answer already.
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Hi,

Chaol is gone until early Dec. (the 9th I think). I am sure he will answer your question when he does return.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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I have not claimed to be Chaol anywhere I this thread. I have not said I am from X, i said I was of X, as each and everyone of you are too. Being of X gives me no more credentials than any other here. You have created a unique value for that relationship where there is none. With you also being of X you will see how the answer that "you who asks" was not misleading.
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I didn't say you claimed to be Chaol. However, someone posted who thought you are Chaol.
 Quoting: Unit3


Looks more likely that part of the message was to me and the last sentence was directed at Chaol as he directed it to him by name.

I am not sure who could answer about ascension as I doubt anyone knows what it actually refers to. If Chaol does not support evolution it would seem unlikely that we will expect some form of ascension. It's more likely we will all experience something that is most logical to our perspective.
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You might want to re-read that post and see if you interpret it differently. I just responded to it and let them know Chaol is gone for now.

In the meantime, here's a great review (from Chaol's teachings), to keep in mind.

"For neuronic exercises there's the Code of Ecsys. By practicing one or more the following simple exercises every day you are learning how to remove physical constraints from your reality. Here's a summary of the Code:

House of Orbia
Respect the logic of others. Try to understand whatever you resist. Exercise 'unlogic' by asking yourself, “How could I be wrong?”

House of Kosmosis
Explore what is outside of your usual perspective. Do things you would not ordinarily do.

House of Chaos
Be honest with the people and things around you. The more transparent you are the more you are connecting with your perceptions.

House of ThohT

Make your thoughts and desires physical in a small way. Symbolize your internal reality in your physical reality."



And I'll just add that I get on one knee (sometimes both knees), daily (or whenever I feel to do so), and give thanks. I have much to be thankful for.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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What is my real name? Tell me where I live and personal message me if you are what you claim to be? I hate liars. I know there are real powerful beings in our world but why here.
bsflag
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Hello!

Here is one more. bsflag

The funny thing is is that if 10 persons from the year 2520 started to post in this forum, they'd still get the same flags.

And if they told you they could receive communications from their devices in real time from the year 2520, they'd get a couple of more.

Thanks.
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hf
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hfhf
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I didn't see it, but did Dodec ever re-emerge from the dream to share what he/she knew?

:D
 Quoting: * * *





I wish!

Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh!

Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


coffeecup
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He, he! Glad to see you here today!
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to.
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I didn't see it, but did Dodec ever re-emerge from the dream to share what he/she knew?

:D
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I wish!

Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh!

Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


coffeecup
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He, he! Glad to see you here today!
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I'm lurking :)

Working on the Farpoint thread today abduct
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I wish!

Marshwiggle seems MIA as well. Of course, I'm impatient! Heh!

Edit: Actually, I could name several that seem MIA!!!!!!
 Quoting: Unit3


coffeecup
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He, he! Glad to see you here today!
 Quoting: Unit3


I'm lurking :)

Working on the Farpoint thread today abduct
 Quoting: CatCarel





Yay! Another pops in!

hf
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I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to.
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Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message?


hf
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I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to.
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Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message?


hf
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It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then.
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I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to.
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Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message?


hf
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Hey your avatar as skin is nice but i get like game door bars going down when i saw it ... I bought nivea scrub again.
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coffeecup
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He, he! Glad to see you here today!
 Quoting: Unit3


I'm lurking :)

Working on the Farpoint thread today abduct
 Quoting: CatCarel





Yay! Another pops in!

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


(checking in every day, not much to say/add and don't connect to the Sekhmet thing unfortunately)
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And i got #@&% at looking at eilat on google maps , dunno why.
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Everything operates in cycles based on mathematical probabilities. Do you think Chaol would not operate following the rules of the universe?
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And? What are those rules? Why every September 9?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


You have created the relationship. What do you think the logic behind it is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

In other words, you don't know why Chaol arrives early every September and then leaves every mid-November.

If I knew, I would not have asked. You offered to answer questions. Using my logic and seeing the possibilities, you are not very good at this.

Interaction is over with. I don't care to play your game.
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Ok I'm back with my kiddy gloves on to discuss Chaol's comings and goings. I think I assumed you were all paying more attention.

Chaol comes and goes on prominent Nexi. By now we all know that nexi represent spaces for possibility. What creates these spaces? Based on what we have learned so far, the relationship (geometry) between two or more representations creates the space for possibility, the same way binaural tones work. So what are the major representations that are always associated with Chaol's comings and goings? Seems they always sun-related, with expressions on planet earth, physically, socially, etc.

Feel free to add any other relationships (patterns) that you feel are pertinent.
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You op are a lying sack of dogshit! Prove me wrong PLEASEbsflag5a.
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"ascension" would be the equivalent of a greatly expanded perspective.
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It is safe to assume we all know that we are perspective. Acknowledging that, perhaps you could elaborate substituting something in the place of perspective. How does one expand on themself?
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And? What are those rules? Why every September 9?
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You have created the relationship. What do you think the logic behind it is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5877556

In other words, you don't know why Chaol arrives early every September and then leaves every mid-November.

If I knew, I would not have asked. You offered to answer questions. Using my logic and seeing the possibilities, you are not very good at this.

Interaction is over with. I don't care to play your game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


Ok I'm back with my kiddy gloves on to discuss Chaol's comings and goings. I think I assumed you were all paying more attention.

Chaol comes and goes on prominent Nexi. By now we all know that nexi represent spaces for possibility. What creates these spaces? Based on what we have learned so far, the relationship (geometry) between two or more representations creates the space for possibility, the same way binaural tones work. So what are the major representations that are always associated with Chaol's comings and goings? Seems they always sun-related, with expressions on planet earth, physically, socially, etc.

Feel free to add any other relationships (patterns) that you feel are pertinent.
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Think sun-moon magnetic relationships. These two representations are of major relevance to this perspective.
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Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something.

Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true.


And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths.

If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game.
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375


Dodec does know ;)

It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise.

Thanks!
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Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something.

Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true.


And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths.

If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game.
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375


Dodec does know ;)

It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise.

Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


This is a great and probably more well received reminder. I've tried to get participants to find their own evidence. It turns out that the least required energy (path of least resistance) is to place blame on someone else instead of finding the things that you already know deep down.
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Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something.

Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true.


And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths.

If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game.
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375


Dodec does know ;)

It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise.

Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


Many of you have made tremendous changes in perspectives over the years that I have posted. It's very refreshing.

Is anything in this thread true?

Probably not :)

The truth is beyond perception.
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He, he! Glad to see you here today!
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I'm lurking :)

Working on the Farpoint thread today abduct
 Quoting: CatCarel





Yay! Another pops in!

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


(checking in every day, not much to say/add and don't connect to the Sekhmet thing unfortunately)
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I didn't think I was either until things in my waking reality changed so drastically, I figured out a way to slow my Genius down. Remember, we are interpreting things according to our understanding. That doesn't mean they are True.

Edit: Glad you popped in. You were a catalyst in my understanding of the Genius. ;D

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I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to.
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Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message?


hf
 Quoting: Unit3


It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487466




Why is that? And I'll add I'm not trying to dismantle your message. I am trying to understand it.
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Also, it is important to keep in mind that Chaol sees his job as creating values in our perspectives in order to accomplish something.

Much like the Oracle told Neo he was not the one in order to alter his perspective, we should probably assume that it is a possibility that Chaol has said things that are not completely true.


And of course, always assume this is a game and that Chaol lives in his mom's basement. It is up to each of us to find our own truths and to explore and discover. Unwavering faith leads to relying on others and makes us lazy. You cannot change YOUR perspective from SOMEONE ELSE's truths.

If you can not make them 100% relevant by believing them through your own investigation and discernment then you will never succeed in this game.
 Quoting: Dodec 20177375


Dodec does know ;)

It was never stipulated that what you know would appear to have been discovered in the dream state or via the dream exercise.

Thanks!
 Quoting: * * *


Many of you have made tremendous changes in perspectives over the years that I have posted. It's very refreshing.

Is anything in this thread true?

Probably not :)

The truth is beyond perception.
 Quoting: Chaol

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This is very helpful Gespenst. Thank you.


hf
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a quick google would tell you that
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I have no quarrel with any part of my perspective. Even the part of my perspective that is you attempting to dismantle my message. I am not married to my perspective, it flows as it needs to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1503907


Could it be looked upon as clarifying the message?

hf
 Quoting: Unit3


It could, but the particular portion that you chose to bold wrt transparency would appear strangely out of context then.
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Why is that? And I'll add I'm not trying to dismantle your message. I am trying to understand it.
 Quoting: Unit3


As ever I am here to answer your questions while Chaol is away. I am self proclaimed human being representing my perspective here. Use your own discernment when considering my replies.





GLP