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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
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Greetings.
 Quoting: Chaol


Greetings.

But it would be much easier to create the library anew. This wouldn't be the same thing, of course.
 Quoting: Chaol


Would it be worth creating a new library in ones mind, or visiting the library off to the right inside the Sphinx Hall?

Also how would you acquire "knowledge" into your new library? I struggle to explain what I'm trying to get across here with words, but hopefully you understand, if not I can expand.

I struggle to connect to the Sphinx Library, if creating a new would be easier, that would greatly benefit my self and others I'm sure.

Whenever someone asks a question I quickly refer to some books in my library and type as fast as I can.

I did't write it. Someone else did.
 Quoting: Chaol


Is your library the same one you instructed to visit below, or do you use a personal library?






Below is a quote of Chaols from the meeting inside the Dream reality thread, there is alot of knowledge waiting to be had and attained from the thread, 48 pages really isn't a lot.

Even just reading something and knowing something is possible allows more possible probabilities to expand.

Horus-on-the-Horizon reveals itself to you now.

It does this by revealing its true nature, as Horus of the Two Horizons; the rising and setting sun.

For you, the rising sun has been the physicality of your world since the time the Egyptian 'sphinx' appears.

 Quoting: Chaol


For our next location we will explore the secrets of the waking world.

The fire of the dream world, "Sekhmet", has a twin. It is symbolized as the protector of the physical world. You will know it as the Great Sphinx.

The two representations are from an older, forgotten time'space. Much more 'ancient' than Egypt and both important values in physical perspective.

The structure in Egypt is one of several physical structures whose complex represents physicality itself.

It is here that we will meet. Inside of Sekhmet's twin in Egypt.

The main hall of this structure is fairly deep underground and connects with most of the other structures around it. (It's really all one giant structure rather than what you see on the map or in pictures. Much of what is above-ground is a type of power source, however.) The main hall is about 50 feet high and 25 feet wide. The length is a bit difficult to describe (as it transcends the usual physicality) but just imagine that it's about 100 feet long with deeply unfocused light at the end. There are various inscriptions on the wall all the way up, with their original colors intact. Off to the side of this hall is a small room filled with books. There is light everywhere from various points on the walls. (The library may be dark at times, depending on how well you allow yourself to see what is there.)

From now, you can meet me in this place.

To get there, imagine Sekhmet inside of the main hall facing the length of the hall. It may help to imagine that you are Sekhmet. When you are in the hall feel free to walk around.

(I describe it above as it's not the easiest place to get to. You will know you are there by the vividness of the experience.)

We discuss the books on the shelves and the inscriptions on the walls. (You will be able to read most of the books, and the inscriptions are accessed by the sound of your thoughts. It is up to you to figure out how to reaching the higher ones.)

There is a lot of knowledge here and understanding to be had. There is also a replica of the timeline of modern civilization (that is in what you call the Great Pyramid) that extends from a few thousand years in past to several hundred years in future. There is also a type of city with lagoons and other interesting features accessible from these chambers that we may explore at an other time (however, you are welcome to find it yourself if you're enterprising).

We can meet there frequently, as you may need to revisit multiple times. Unfortunately you may not be able to do much unless I am there to 'hold the door open' for you (for this particular experience), but I will try to extend myself to everyone's perspective.

If we meet together it would be in the library. I'm not sure that we can experience others in the main hall but it may be possible. Strange things happen in the main hall. (Though danger is irrelevant to all.)

If you will, tell us here about what new understanding or experience you have had inside of 'the great sphinx'. (Note that I do not retell the name here, as it has great power in the physical world. But you are free to make up your own name for it.)
 Quoting: Chaol


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@ Jesse [MM] and Marshwiggle
hf

I understand where you're coming from. What I am looking to grasp is how is it that I come to properly define my initial intent for the symbol. Most of the time, it seems what we want and what we intend are out of synch. It's been (for me) that when considering my symbol for a genius, I find myself not really being clearly aware of what I want. As I see it, what I intend on experiencing is so vague because I am not really provided a frame of reference for what I intend. I've come to the conclusion that representing what I'd imagined was a desired experience comes tainted by my lack of focus.

I suppose (you're right) it's the whole "what's next is what takes the least amount of energy to come next" thing. The symbol (and associated experience) would likely evolve further as my "true" intent becomes more logical.
 Quoting: Ambra 30351928




Jesse, I don't know if this helps, but I notice you said the following:

"I am not really provided a frame of reference for what I intend."

You used the word provided. Are you expecting the frame of reference to come from somewhere besides yourself? I am having a hard time seeing how you don't feel you know your true intent. To me, I set my true intent. I am not having any trouble with that part. The only part I have trouble with is understanding how I already do this naturally.
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda


Yes, I do genuinely have the "feeling" that I am "provided" an experience from somewhere beyond my ability to perceive. I know (intelectually) that it is, as you point out, already within my perspective.

My intent is ambiguous, because I don't (yet) understand the framework to clearly define it. I can use the genius easily (so far) for things that are already relative (also easy to define). Now, the ones that I had perceived as less relative have been more varied and vague (like kinda happening but not quite).

Chaol reminded me to focus on the overall structure of relationships surrounding the desired experience. I suppose I'd forgotten to look at it that way.

rockon
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So you're actually trying to expand your perspective to something new?
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Brain development software and equipment.

[link to altered-states.net]

Snippets:

Developing the corpus callosum:

"These hemispheres are connected by the corpus callosum. It serves as a conduit or a bridge between both sides. This bridge can literally be exercised and strengthened until it is physically larger and more capable of transmitting data, thoughts and feedback between hemispheres.

The famous clairvoyant healer Edgar Cayce was found to have an unusually large corpus callosum, but could it be that everyone else simply has not developed this hemispheric bridge?"


Software:

"unique product line has been engineered to incorporate some (or all) of the following psychoacoustic technologies depending on the product.

Professional hypnosis from a certified hypnotherapist
NLP - NeuroLinguistic Programming
Brainwave Entrainment Technologies - Hemispheric synchronization using binaural beat frequencies/ binaural beats
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lucid dreaming:

"YOUR MISSIONS: Six Missions designed to systematically awaken, train and develop your dreaming awareness

TRAINING ZONE: Memory, Audio, Visual, Tactile, Aromatic, Kinesthetic, Motion (20 Motion Simulators)

WISDOM: Framework, Advanced Concepts, Related Topics, Tips & Tactics, and Strategy"

"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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This is very helpful Gespenst. Thank you.


hf
 Quoting: Unit3


Just another interesting thing from the same quote:

It is not my intention to be "right". Sometimes I am intentionally wrong about things, or make mistakes, or even manipulate you for my own purposes.
 Quoting: Gespenst




Wow. Hadn't seen that or maybe don't remember it. Anyway, thanks again.

I'm still thinking about the first one you posted where he says truth is beyond perception. Why do I accept that statement? Yet, I know the mind fills in the blanks.

But then somewhere, Chaol says the only way to expand your perspective is to see something you've never seen before. I just don't know how that is possible. The mind will always come up with an answer.

There are studies of anthropologists who report on tribes who can't see things like a ship (because it isn't in their framework) or a lady who left the Amazon jungle for the first time. She saw a man riding a donkey and it scared her because she had never seen a half human and half animal before.

For myself, I have found "spaces" I call voids. There are no symbols, nothing, but there is some texture or some awareness of a sort. It might be a feeling of deep peace or awareness of presence. What is Chaol's definition of Truth? Anybody know?
 Quoting: Unit3


That which cannot be perceived. (i.e., is independent of perspective.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Thank you.

I'll get back to you on this if you're open to a discussion of it. I'm not sure if this is something you prefer to discuss once certain basics are understood.

Could you let me know?
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Greetings.
 Quoting: Chaol


Greetings.

But it would be much easier to create the library anew. This wouldn't be the same thing, of course.
 Quoting: Chaol


Would it be worth creating a new library in ones mind, or visiting the library off to the right inside the Sphinx Hall?

Also how would you acquire "knowledge" into your new library? I struggle to explain what I'm trying to get across here with words, but hopefully you understand, if not I can expand.

I struggle to connect to the Sphinx Library, if creating a new would be easier, that would greatly benefit my self and others I'm sure.

Whenever someone asks a question I quickly refer to some books in my library and type as fast as I can.

I did't write it. Someone else did.
 Quoting: Chaol


Is your library the same one you instructed to visit below, or do you use a personal library?






Below is a quote of Chaols from the meeting inside the Dream reality thread, there is alot of knowledge waiting to be had and attained from the thread, 48 pages really isn't a lot.

Even just reading something and knowing something is possible allows more possible probabilities to expand.

Horus-on-the-Horizon reveals itself to you now.

It does this by revealing its true nature, as Horus of the Two Horizons; the rising and setting sun.

For you, the rising sun has been the physicality of your world since the time the Egyptian 'sphinx' appears.

 Quoting: Chaol


For our next location we will explore the secrets of the waking world.

The fire of the dream world, "Sekhmet", has a twin. It is symbolized as the protector of the physical world. You will know it as the Great Sphinx.

The two representations are from an older, forgotten time'space. Much more 'ancient' than Egypt and both important values in physical perspective.

The structure in Egypt is one of several physical structures whose complex represents physicality itself.

It is here that we will meet. Inside of Sekhmet's twin in Egypt.

The main hall of this structure is fairly deep underground and connects with most of the other structures around it. (It's really all one giant structure rather than what you see on the map or in pictures. Much of what is above-ground is a type of power source, however.) The main hall is about 50 feet high and 25 feet wide. The length is a bit difficult to describe (as it transcends the usual physicality) but just imagine that it's about 100 feet long with deeply unfocused light at the end. There are various inscriptions on the wall all the way up, with their original colors intact. Off to the side of this hall is a small room filled with books. There is light everywhere from various points on the walls. (The library may be dark at times, depending on how well you allow yourself to see what is there.)

From now, you can meet me in this place.

To get there, imagine Sekhmet inside of the main hall facing the length of the hall. It may help to imagine that you are Sekhmet. When you are in the hall feel free to walk around.

(I describe it above as it's not the easiest place to get to. You will know you are there by the vividness of the experience.)

We discuss the books on the shelves and the inscriptions on the walls. (You will be able to read most of the books, and the inscriptions are accessed by the sound of your thoughts. It is up to you to figure out how to reaching the higher ones.)

There is a lot of knowledge here and understanding to be had. There is also a replica of the timeline of modern civilization (that is in what you call the Great Pyramid) that extends from a few thousand years in past to several hundred years in future. There is also a type of city with lagoons and other interesting features accessible from these chambers that we may explore at an other time (however, you are welcome to find it yourself if you're enterprising).

We can meet there frequently, as you may need to revisit multiple times. Unfortunately you may not be able to do much unless I am there to 'hold the door open' for you (for this particular experience), but I will try to extend myself to everyone's perspective.

If we meet together it would be in the library. I'm not sure that we can experience others in the main hall but it may be possible. Strange things happen in the main hall. (Though danger is irrelevant to all.)

If you will, tell us here about what new understanding or experience you have had inside of 'the great sphinx'. (Note that I do not retell the name here, as it has great power in the physical world. But you are free to make up your own name for it.)
 Quoting: Chaol

 Quoting: LeKing



I believe the "new" library is us constructing our own language.
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
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I think this is a great exercise. I've been trying to figure it out.

Here's what I'll say in answer to your quesiton:

I give meaning to everything I perceive.
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I give meaning to every time I see 11:11 on a digital clock (which is annoyingly often; about time to do something constructive with it... ;-) )
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol




I think this is a great exercise. I've been trying to figure it out.

Here's what I'll say in answer to your quesiton:

I give meaning to everything I perceive.
 Quoting: Unit3


I use a form of the Genius constantly, without thinking about it, most of the time. It's since doing it consciously that I've realised this. I have so much faith that it will work and it usually does, very quickly!

For instance =

Today I have moved across the country -
Symbol - my car
Space - the landscape
Interaction - road, other cars, buildings etc
Logic - a strange series of key-turning, stick-moving and peddle-pressing!

I have also created a feeling of pleasure in my body -

Symbol - brownish soft object about five square inches
Space - metal appliance in my kitchen
Interaction - heat elements, plate, yellow oily stuff
Logic - once symbol is ejected out of the appliance, yellow oily stuff is spread onto it, I put it into my mouth, chew and swallow!

Strange, but these Geniuses work (almost) every time :)
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol


If the Genius is a map from one perception to another, here are some examples of changing environments:

Preschool: a few hours a day, begin to interact with others and experience a form of independence
(Genius 1)

Kindergarten-Elementary school: all-day classes, making of friends and developing own identity, exploration of mental knowledge
(Genius 2)

High School: Many classes, positive and negative interactions with others, emphasis on future direction and goals, testing of personal limitations and boundaries
(Genius 3)

College: Sudden decrease in class length and time spent in classroom environment, emphasis on independence and self-reliance, interaction with others from diverse backgrounds, work towards 'mastery' of particular subject
(Genius 4)

Post-College: could have similar geometry to any previous Genius, depends on lifestyle choice.

These illustrate the progress of knowledge and autonomy during first 20-ish years of 'life'.

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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol


Entering the dreamworld
Symbol - Queen size bed
Space - Bedroom
Interaction - Trying to gain an inch of mattress and pillow, while cats are faster than me as they jump over
Logic - Turning to left side of body, closing eyes and following colored shapes, until waking consciousness fades away
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Happy End of the World, everyone :)
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Happy End of the World, everyone :)
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Same to you.
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Happy End of the World, everyone :)
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kitty See you on the other side!
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Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol




I think this is a great exercise. I've been trying to figure it out.

Here's what I'll say in answer to your quesiton:

I give meaning to everything I perceive.
 Quoting: Unit3



Forgot to add that I interact with my environment, esp, the things I strongly like or dislike.

And happy end of the world? Yes, I'm looking forward to it, heh!
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Happy End of the World, everyone :)
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Yay!
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Happy End of the World, everyone :)
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Happy End of the World to you too!
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Happy End of the World, everyone :)
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I am teyerd my love, gravity is what it is not. Why has never left, I am here......lets do this

AND(DNA)the "dream" ISIS





















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Update for 11/27

3 quantum experiments to keep in mind while viewing this thread:

1. double slit [link to www.youtube.com]

The act of perceiving something causes the the wave of possibilities to collapse manifesting an experience.

2. [link to www.youtube.com]

everything is connected

3. superposition

something unobserved exists in all its possible states
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


For #1, would that not imply that each observer has their own wave of possibilities?

For #3, if it is unobserved then it would not relate to anything and would not thus have a state.
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In other words, you don't know why Chaol arrives early every September and then leaves every mid-November.

If I knew, I would not have asked. You offered to answer questions. Using my logic and seeing the possibilities, you are not very good at this.

Interaction is over with. I don't care to play your game.
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Ok I'm back with my kiddy gloves on to discuss Chaol's comings and goings. I think I assumed you were all paying more attention.

Chaol comes and goes on prominent Nexi. By now we all know that nexi represent spaces for possibility. What creates these spaces? Based on what we have learned so far, the relationship (geometry) between two or more representations creates the space for possibility, the same way binaural tones work. So what are the major representations that are always associated with Chaol's comings and goings? Seems they always sun-related, with expressions on planet earth, physically, socially, etc.

Feel free to add any other relationships (patterns) that you feel are pertinent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487466


Think sun-moon magnetic relationships. These two representations are of major relevance to this perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487466


Nexus = Solar Flare + Chaol leaving/returning

The Nexi exist because of his interaction with solar activity
 Quoting: CatCarel


Sol represents this particular brand of physicality. Everything physical (as we know it) has its 'origin' there.

Every 'level' of physicality has a sun, you could say. From the particles on up to the universe.

The potential energy of the sun is made relative through interaction (solar activity).

However, this activity is as much in your body as in what appears to be the center of your solar system.

In one way it's the same thing.

In an other, perhaps more practical, way it's a connection. (In this way you can reach other possibilities of physically-oriented experience.) It's one reason you could stand next to it and not burn (although your clothes and equipment may, as they have a less-relative 'sun' at their center).

The universe is, indeed, your body in all respects.
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Does he create the solar flares? Otherwise, how is there one on that exact date every year?
 Quoting: Unit3


The same way you can tell about what time you'll be hungry.

The activity on/of your sun is the same activity in/of your body.
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Update for 11/27

3 quantum experiments to keep in mind while viewing this thread:

1. double slit [link to www.youtube.com]

The act of perceiving something causes the the wave of possibilities to collapse manifesting an experience.

2. [link to www.youtube.com]

everything is connected

3. superposition

something unobserved exists in all its possible states
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


For #1, would that not imply that each observer has their own wave of possibilities?

For #3, if it is unobserved then it would not relate to anything and would not thus have a state.
 Quoting: Chaol


Yup and yup. But for #3 one could say "no energy is independent of perspective(observation)". Until something is observed it seems to sit out there (as a possibility) un-rendered waiting to become logical (enough to be rendered).
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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alas my numbers don't match, but then again... maybe no one's do. Till the next lotto drawing

We Ride....
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Sure. Not if you think of it in the traditional sense.

Why not see your numbers match right now, in a different way?
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I think someone should start an advanced ecsys thread and hopefully Chaol can pop in there and teach us some more. I particularly would like to learn more about mental symbols, ecsys on the fly, predicting the future and visualization techniques. I don't really know how to start a thread though.
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Personally, I'm not leaving the space Chaol created. I like being in his Genius map. If anyone starts another thread on this material, then that is creating another space. Also, I think Chaol does enough for us so I wouldn't dare ask him to go teach in my thread. Just sayin'

I don't understand why you don't just post what you are interested in here such as mental symbols, ecsys on the fly, etc:?


Edit: And quite frankly, if one doesn't understand the basics I just mentioned above, then I don't think it's time to move to advanced information. And Chaol has actually mentioned it's not time to move on until we understand some things.

Also, he has mentioned 2013 a few times and that he will tell us more. He is waiting to reveal something to us. I have no idea what it is, but I'm content to play with my Genius plans and see what I can learn. After all, we are really trying to learn HOW we create our reality.

And, as far as I know, only 3 people have actually accomplished anything with their Genius plans. That would be tuuuuuuur, Cat and the poster that just moved to Canada. Marshwiggle and I both are unsure of our results and I know I'm waiting on Chaol to return for feedback to see if I had results or a personal experience.
 Quoting: Unit3


I think many of us have a good understanding of the basics to move up a notch.

A small notch ;)

(Far many more persons have accomplished something with their Genius. Some speak up, though.)
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Ok I'm back with my kiddy gloves on to discuss Chaol's comings and goings. I think I assumed you were all paying more attention.

Chaol comes and goes on prominent Nexi. By now we all know that nexi represent spaces for possibility. What creates these spaces? Based on what we have learned so far, the relationship (geometry) between two or more representations creates the space for possibility, the same way binaural tones work. So what are the major representations that are always associated with Chaol's comings and goings? Seems they always sun-related, with expressions on planet earth, physically, socially, etc.

Feel free to add any other relationships (patterns) that you feel are pertinent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487466


Think sun-moon magnetic relationships. These two representations are of major relevance to this perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1487466


Nexus = Solar Flare + Chaol leaving/returning

The Nexi exist because of his interaction with solar activity
 Quoting: CatCarel


Sol represents this particular brand of physicality. Everything physical (as we know it) has its 'origin' there.

Every 'level' of physicality has a sun, you could say. From the particles on up to the universe.

The potential energy of the sun is made relative through interaction (solar activity).

However, this activity is as much in your body as in what appears to be the center of your solar system.

In one way it's the same thing.

In an other, perhaps more practical, way it's a connection. (In this way you can reach other possibilities of physically-oriented experience.) It's one reason you could stand next to it and not burn (although your clothes and equipment may, as they have a less-relative 'sun' at their center).

The universe is, indeed, your body in all respects.
 Quoting: Chaol



Yes, otherwise, we couldn't perceive it. And since it all operates by "laws," I think we are proving there is a Universal Source.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Update for 11/27

3 quantum experiments to keep in mind while viewing this thread:

1. double slit [link to www.youtube.com]

The act of perceiving something causes the the wave of possibilities to collapse manifesting an experience.

2. [link to www.youtube.com]

everything is connected

3. superposition

something unobserved exists in all its possible states
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


For #1, would that not imply that each observer has their own wave of possibilities?

For #3, if it is unobserved then it would not relate to anything and would not thus have a state.
 Quoting: Chaol





And yet, some perceive, even to the point of knowing how to do so, by using symbols within the mind.

I think we have proven a Source....which is a network of symbols. Otherwise, how can our world, who does not know how it arranges these symbols, still perceive?

The symbols exist or how can it be explained that we are able to arrange them into geometrical relationships?

Infinity exploring the finite.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
alas my numbers don't match, but then again... maybe no one's do. Till the next lotto drawing

We Ride....
 Quoting: DODEC 20177375


Sure. Not if you think of it in the traditional sense.

Why not see your numbers match right now, in a different way?
 Quoting: Chaol





I love that thought! ^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
I think someone should start an advanced ecsys thread and hopefully Chaol can pop in there and teach us some more. I particularly would like to learn more about mental symbols, ecsys on the fly, predicting the future and visualization techniques. I don't really know how to start a thread though.
 Quoting: Not-Chaol 5877556


Personally, I'm not leaving the space Chaol created. I like being in his Genius map. If anyone starts another thread on this material, then that is creating another space. Also, I think Chaol does enough for us so I wouldn't dare ask him to go teach in my thread. Just sayin'

I don't understand why you don't just post what you are interested in here such as mental symbols, ecsys on the fly, etc:?


Edit: And quite frankly, if one doesn't understand the basics I just mentioned above, then I don't think it's time to move to advanced information. And Chaol has actually mentioned it's not time to move on until we understand some things.

Also, he has mentioned 2013 a few times and that he will tell us more. He is waiting to reveal something to us. I have no idea what it is, but I'm content to play with my Genius plans and see what I can learn. After all, we are really trying to learn HOW we create our reality.

And, as far as I know, only 3 people have actually accomplished anything with their Genius plans. That would be tuuuuuuur, Cat and the poster that just moved to Canada. Marshwiggle and I both are unsure of our results and I know I'm waiting on Chaol to return for feedback to see if I had results or a personal experience.
 Quoting: Unit3


I think many of us have a good understanding of the basics to move up a notch.

A small notch ;)

(Far many more persons have accomplished something with their Genius. Some speak up, though.)
 Quoting: Chaol




Yeah, I was just fishing, heh!!!!

That's exciting....let's do move it up! WhoooHOooo!
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Now that we've briefly discussed use of the Genius how about we talk about ways that we use it in our everyday lives, without realizing it?

Take what you know about how to make a Genius model and apply it to the world that is all ready around you.

This is a tricky one but it is the step that leads up to more advanced uses of Ecsys.

I'll start with a hint:

Everything of your perception is a symbol
 Quoting: Chaol


YES.

Also, I appreciate your use of the word "of" here. Everything of my perception. Good stuff.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Update for 11/27

3 quantum experiments to keep in mind while viewing this thread:

1. double slit [link to www.youtube.com]

The act of perceiving something causes the the wave of possibilities to collapse manifesting an experience.

2. [link to www.youtube.com]

everything is connected

3. superposition

something unobserved exists in all its possible states
 Quoting: dodec 20177375


For #1, would that not imply that each observer has their own wave of possibilities?

For #3, if it is unobserved then it would not relate to anything and would not thus have a state.
 Quoting: Chaol


Yup and yup. But for #3 one could say "no energy is independent of perspective(observation)". Until something is observed it seems to sit out there (as a possibility) un-rendered waiting to become logical (enough to be rendered).
 Quoting: Jesse Sovoda



Which gets us back to the question of existence and non-existence. It doesn't exist until it is perceived. We use symbols so we can perceive it. Where do the symbols and/or the knowledge to use them come from?

In our world, we use them without even knowing how. So, they exist.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka





GLP