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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

 
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where art thy Chaol?

How can one know if they are ready for the acsension?

thank you
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What ascension is that?
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[snips]

Would that sound a fair reasoning or have i left any holes behind?
If it is fair, then it begs the question: The only way to reach the singular perspective of no wishes is the one through which you know how to (and) have every wish come true?

Please forgive my confusion :)
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Why would one want to reach a singular perspective?

Then the experience would be nothing.
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where art thy Chaol?

How can one know if they are ready for the acsension?

thank you
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also, Chaol, is there any significance behind 11:11, also can you tell me some interesting things about Thoth and the emerald tablets?

thanks
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No, not really. They're just numbers.

What would you like to know about the emerald tablets?
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Jesse, Unit3 thank you for your answers.
You helped me clarify what my question is.
So, there you go!

I asked if it would be possible for somebody from this world to live his/her life by rendering irrelevant any wishing in it. That is, "i dont desire something to experience, or fear something else to experience and therefore i have no reason to wish for something to come true or not to come true."

It is not something that i personally desire for myself, since I don't know why should i wish for such a thing.
I only asked to see if it could have been a 3rd option to the genie tale, or if it is impossible to happen and therefore was not an option to the tale for good reason.

All that because I got the understanding that learning the GENIUS is about having a wish and know how to make it come true, so i guess that maybe we can never cease to wish. Once one has mastered the GENIUS he would then be able to have a wish come true (experience it) after a wish that came true, which will be followed by another wish that will come true until kingdom come.

But on a different note though, i (re) read Unit3's favourite quote (which is one of my favourites too) and here is how i understand her reply.

If your perspective is split between good and bad (which makes you wishing for good or bad), then obviously you cannot have a singular (no good/no bad) perspective of reality. But if this singular perspective does not contain the source of wishing (the good/bad "thing"), then it makes me think that indeed Chaol, as Unit3 claims, through the teaching of GENIUS helps you to understand how you perceive (now, with your dual perspective) by making your wishes come true, but at the end of the road (singular perspective) and somehow inconceivable to us today, you will catch yourself of running out of wishes.

Would that sound a fair reasoning or have i left any holes behind?
If it is fair, then it begs the question: The only way to reach the singular perspective of no wishes is the one through which you know how to (and) have every wish come true?

Please forgive my confusion :)
 Quoting: panoukos

No problem with confusion. We learn by asking and we learn by teaching. I'm glad you're trying to get something straight in your mind. I do it all the time. And wait until we get into learning the language...I'll probably drive you guys nuts, LOL!

Okay, here's what I understand.

The reason we are learning how to use the Genius is so we can see HOW we create our perspectives. Once we see HOW we create.....then we are in a different level of awareness.

Once we are at that level of awareness, we know we are creating illusions, and that's a whole different thing than creating because we want something.

It makes it easier to see HOW you are creating and also that you are creating one single perspective, if you don't have whole lot of "good" and "bad" perceptions.

So there are really 2 things we are working on to get to Chaol's level. We are learning good and bad are not so good and bad. And, we are learning how we create our ONE SINGLE PERSPECTIVE. There is only one perspective.....mine! (or yours).

And really, once you see that good/bad is getting in the way of seeing your one perspective, it sort of takes the juice out of good/bad.

Well, it does if you really want to experience another level of awareness, imo.
 Quoting: Unit3


Some notes:

Perspectives aren't created. It's more of an experience.

The magic of "perspective" is that it is comprised of all other perspectives. Imagine a room full of bottles, each pointed in different direction until all directions are covered. Your bottle is pointed in a particular direction and that is your perspective. You can try to change the direction your bottle is pointed to but the moment you do you jump to an other bottle whose direction is all ready the one you were going to point to.

In this example all perspectives 'exist' all ready.

All of these perspectives seem to exist at once.

Every perspective is connected with every other perspective because there is one perspective (called Nothing). It is impossible to experience "nothing" because it is beyond perspective. It is beyond perspective because it cannot be experienced from or contained within one particular perspective.

When you have one perspective you have nothing to relate to and, thus, nothing.

Really, there is only the illusion of perspective rather than absolute perspective. The only absolute perspective is that which is beyond itself and need not exist.

A perspective comes from the bottles interacting with one-another. (This is an illusion, though.) Take away one perspective and you 'destroy' the balance of them all (though this is not possible). They all depend on one-another because they are all the same illusion.

So in order for your bottle-perspective to seem to be it must be all possible perspectives (or, as it may be said, your perspective must contain all other perspectives).

You are as much a singular perspective now as you will ever be. An "expanded perspective" would entail knowing/understanding/experiencing going from bottle to bottle (rather than not knowing) and doing it consciously. As this is simultaneous you may experience what seems like multiple perspectives at once. However this is still one bottle-perspective in the same way you are experiencing that now with all of the perspectives of your physical body.
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If "Time" really is an Illusion, how does one go from one place, or another, in a second, without any help from machines and anything technological?
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Time is as much of an illusion as the timepieces that we have invented to keep track of it.

The more it relates to something else the more real it seems.
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Yeah. I don't know enough about time to be able to tell anybody much about it, but technology on the "outside" is actually a mental process that we see as a tangible piece of equipment. It is a symbol emerging from thought. So, using technology on the "outside" is the very same as using it on the "inside".

Somewhere in these threads, Chaol mentions that technology that we use is all alive and as "human" as we are.
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Indeed.

And only aliens could produce alien technology ;)
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Chaol, I love marijuana.

What is your perception on marihuana?

Thank you
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I don't really have anything to say about it.
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There is only one perspective, but that single perspective fragments into countless other perspectives.
Each fragment is a world unto itself. Each fragment is a unique perspective. But, just as described in ideas of a "holographic universe", each fragment also contains the whole.

Something I didn't comprehend years ago, but I think that now I do, is that new information will alter a fragment. New information will change a perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853315


If there is only one perspective, fragmented into countless (but finite) perspectives and if each fragment/perspective contains the whole, then where the "new" could/would come from?

Chaol has stated that nothing is created (and therefore nothing dies*), which means that "new" does not exist. "New", doesn't change perspectives


However, please allow me to supplement your thought

As I think of it, or understand it, is that in order to have "a" perspective it requires to have "a" question and "an" answer. If one has no questions (because he knows everything maybe), then there is no perspective (or, you can say "directionless", or has everything in his perspective). The same applies, I assume, if you have unanswerable questions or answers that you dont know the question. Or else we can say, it is not in your perspective, it doesn't exist, because you cannot relate a question to an answer. "This", does not exist because either you dont know what "this" is, or because you haven't asked what "this" is. If you have, then "this" exists, in your perspective.

As we all know, the "meaning in ("my") life" is situated where "my" questions point it to be. By changing questions -that "I" ask in "my" life- "I" change the "meaning in my life" (or what I define meaning in my life) and thus perspective.

In that context, I understand the "expanded perspective" as the process by which you somehow keep on asking questions after answers, until you decide to arrive to conclusions, where is the place one rests because he got bored of thinking, as they say and wants to live :)

With the same token, methinks, if i change questions, I change my reality. So, the questions I ask determine the "size" of my reality or how expanded my big picture/reality is.

The way you form these questions is through letters/words in a logical manner (grammar/syntax), creating something like a string of symbols, which makes it important consequently, to know what words/symbols to use for the purpose.
Let's not forget the truism that even the deepest secret in the universe will be told in a language that we understand and with words that we already know and exist.

The above of course refer to what I understand (bring into my perspective :)), or misunderstand, when i read Chaol writing about "the perspective...". I hope it helped, if i have not misunderstood Chaol and not been boring.


*If immortal is something that never dies, then the only immortal is the one that has never been born. So, if nothing has been born (created), then everything is immortal. This is how Chaol has suggested us to think of him, afew pages back if I remember.
 Quoting: panoukos


Perspective is afar from questions and answers.

You can be quite knowledgeable and still not know what your perspective is comprised of.

It's more about the geometry of relationships than about knowing things or understanding the meaning of your life, answering questions, and making decisions.

It is safe to assume that 99.9999% of the time we have no idea what our perspective is. There's so much to 'calculate' to understand what it is made of, so to speak.
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How long would we have if the note was a calculation based on the speed of the expansion of the universe a a 5 of light speed and the note is from somebody in another universe coming at us at a speed that is,
a) slight slower than light speed so we get a 3 hour window to prevent a collision.

b) slightly faster than the speed of light so we get the news 3 hours after the collision has already taken place.

How would the notes differ?
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What expansion are you referring to again?

And what collision?
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In my dream last night I knew exactly how to assign value to things to make it useful to my experience. When I woke up I could not remember how I did it.
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Try writing it down next time (in the dream) ;)
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I believe the "new" library is us constructing our own language.
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But how would you acquire "knowledge" into your new library/language? again I struggle to explain what I'm trying to get across here with words.

When we create our new language or in EC if you made a neuronicon for "a book of this worlds true history" how would you access it?

Or even a neuronicon for "a full length feature visualization with full control to perceive this worlds true history"

A book wouldn't be as fun for comparison.

Inside the Sphinx's library I have seen others reports of books and "movie" things.
 Quoting: LeKing



Remember, the knowledge is already here. Acquiring it only has to make logical sense to you.

Aren't you already acquiring the knowledge if you're in the Sphinx library? Or are you saying you want in it some kind of media?

Maybe you 'discover' a galactic internet connection to the Sphnix Library and develop software to retrieve it to convert into movies!
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The act of perception is creation itself.
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Wonderfully simple.
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
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The illusion within the illusion.

No real people need be used for the drama, either. A television signal is enough ;)

(And no signal need be used...)

But that's a story for some other time.
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Hi Chaol and welcome back!

Chaol said:
(Non-existence is so.. boring and is the most-resisted idea there is because it implies no relationship with anything.)

We are looking for a way to relate to something. It does not matter how

If we are incapable of not forming relations with anything because we are perspective, how are we capable to fear it (resist it)? How do we know it is boring, since nothing has ever been (because it can't, by default) in that state?

Is it boredom that prevents us from being there or impossibility?

Why do we need this most resisted idea to perform that which we are incapable of not performing it, anyway?

Also, in a different note, would you say that I live in a "with my Genius" state, when I think and act on the first thing that comes to my mind at all times (not necessarily coinciding with "reflex")?

Edit: I wrote the above before I read your answers to my previous posts.
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To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
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You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
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If you read it is it being written?

Or are you just reading it.
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Hi.

Death, to the few who really subscribe to X in my world, is more of a myth. It seems real when you see or know of others 'tune out' but we also know that the experience of it is different from what it appears to be.

We're sad to see people go, of course. And in a way it's the end of that person's life (or relevance in the world) so they are missed.
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Do you have any immortals there?

We reportedly have some here and I know of a couple of the ways reported of how they attained it.

Also, there is a lot of talk here that immortality is just about possible now, with all the innovations in medicine.

Almost every body part can be replaced in some way and with the additional use of robotics, it's looking like we could establish it as the norm.
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Btw, does anyone know what Chaol meant by 'GLP is not on the internet'?

Will add a link to the post; forget which thread it was.
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Anyone remember Chaol saying we'd probably not be using the internet by last december?
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


Yes. And in late October of that year, SOPA was introduced.

This website was one of many on 'the list' to be taken offline.

Some changes have been made since then and now your internet is safe and sound.
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Has he actually said he doesn't like his world as much as ours?
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


Yes, he said this just before he left. A new poster asked him quite a few questions about his world. It's not too far back in this very thread.
 Quoting: Unit3


Thanks, I'll look for it
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I found it and also rememberd another question I have. If Choal creates his perspective, why does he need a nexus point to travel back and forth between worlds? There is something I'm no understanding (or Chaol isn't) about our perception creating powers.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 218)
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The nexus point is a value in my perspective ;)
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How is there perspective without consciousness?
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Can you define consciousness?
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Btw, does anyone know what Chaol meant by 'GLP is not on the internet'?

Will add a link to the post; forget which thread it was.
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Anyone remember Chaol saying we'd probably not be using the internet by last december?
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


Yes. And in late October of that year, SOPA was introduced.

This website was one of many on 'the list' to be taken offline.

Some changes have been made since then and now your internet is safe and sound.
 Quoting: Chaol




Thank you. ;o)
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How is there perspective without consciousness?
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Can you define consciousness?
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I can now. It's the result of relationships between symbols.
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How is there perspective without consciousness?
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* We are not human (we are perspectives)

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Does your girlfriend know what you are?
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Human? Yes :)

 Quoting: Chaol


In truth, Chaol sometimes contradicts himself :)
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


Are you using the above as an example of a supposed contradiction?

"Does your girlfriend know what you are?" is pretty ambiguous.

I don't mind clarifying a contradition, as long as the question is clear.
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Yes, he said this just before he left. A new poster asked him quite a few questions about his world. It's not too far back in this very thread.
 Quoting: Unit3


Thanks, I'll look for it
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I found it and also rememberd another question I have. If Choal creates his perspective, why does he need a nexus point to travel back and forth between worlds? There is something I'm no understanding (or Chaol isn't) about our perception creating powers.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 218)
 Quoting: Unit3


The nexus point is a value in my perspective ;)
 Quoting: Chaol




Okay, so when you use the Sun as a nexus point, you use it on certain dates....seemingly, Nov 17. If this is so, what value have you assigned to that date?
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His dates have been off before. He will be back soon now and answer these questions, heh!!!!
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Intentionally misleading.

As I mentioned, I will at times manipulate for my own purposes of bringing your world closer to my own.

An example of this would be if I told you that Auntie Sally was coming on June 3rd.

I know that Auntie Sally won't arrive until mid-September but you would not understand how the preparations you usually make for Auntie Sally are needed on June 3rd even if she is not coming.

If you knew that she was not coming then you would not prepare the biscuits.

If I told you who was coming instead of Auntie Sally you would ask questions well beyond June 3rd, and we'd never get anywhere.

It is not that I want to hide something but sometimes things are exceedingly difficult to make sense of.

So Auntie Sally is arriving June 3rd. Do you need help with the chaos biscuits?
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@Marshwiggle. In the example you gave of Chaol contradicting himself, he can't really say he is an alien because our worlds are merging.

He must also be very human looking if he can hang out in our world on the streets and not have black ops. show up, LOL!

So, I would say the term human is appropriate with the understanding that we are quickly moving away from physicality.
 Quoting: Unit3


I don't think he's ever described himself as an alien lol!

What I meant was he says 'we are not human' then he says his girlfriend knows him to be human.
Confusing!
 Quoting: Marshwiggle


I'm as human as you are :)

It is convenient to think of ourselves as human even though we're mostly composed of alien biology.

We're mostly non-human while calling ourselves human.

Confusing, indeed.
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I thought I'd better start over reading Chaol's posts and look what I just found:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Everything truly exists. Like I mention above, When something cannot be fully perceived, it appears infinite.

Our language also enables us to perceive these alternate realities, if we want. One alterate realm is this one.

You exist in multiple realms now, at every moment. You could traverse hundreds of thousands of different possibilities in one day without knowing it.

So most of those bold statements are my understanding (before I met Chaol) of myself as spirit.

Edit: Found a contradiction:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 2)

"The answers" in the universe apply to everyone, not just an infinitesimally small percentage of the population.

We look to scientists for these answers because they're doing things that we don't understand. It is no different than how (in the past) we look to the religious elite for the answers.

But the answers are not found in science or religion or any one particular aspect of the schools and politics that we have created.

The answers are universal and have more to do with consciousness and perception.

I think Chaol believes in universal law.


And this poster asked Chaol how could there not be consciousness....Chaol asked him what consciousness is to him. Here are both their answers:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 2)

Consciousness to me..hmm that would be my own perception of myself, my awareness of my own being.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757374


Excellent!

Then the question for you then is, What do you consider your "self"?

If it is your body, then what do you do with a part of your self when you clip your nails or cut your hair? If it is only the 'living' part of your body that you consider your self, where does your self go when you lose a pound?

What is your self when you are dreaming?

"Self" by itself is a bit difficult to pin. Perhaps because the usual basic assumptions about what self is could be expanded.

If it is "awareness of my own being" as you mentioned, then what does it mean to be aware of another being?

Thanks.
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 Quoting: Unit3


The website is meant as an introduction to this particular forum.

The language I use is specific for the intent. For the website, it is to use language and terms that people are more likely to understand.

As we move along in our understanding I will change the language and terms so that new (or as I say, more accurate) understandings come into play.

From the website there is one law (although I would not really call it a law), Ecsys Prime.
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His dates have been off before. He will be back soon now and answer these questions, heh!!!!
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Intentionally misleading.

As I mentioned, I will at times manipulate for my own purposes of bringing your world closer to my own.

An example of this would be if I told you that Auntie Sally was coming on June 3rd.

I know that Auntie Sally won't arrive until mid-September but you would not understand how the preparations you usually make for Auntie Sally are needed on June 3rd even if she is not coming.

If you knew that she was not coming then you would not prepare the biscuits.

If I told you who was coming instead of Auntie Sally you would ask questions well beyond June 3rd, and we'd never get anywhere.

It is not that I want to hide something but sometimes things are exceedingly difficult to make sense of.

So Auntie Sally is arriving June 3rd. Do you need help with the chaos biscuits?
 Quoting: Chaol




I'm not meaning to indicate you hide anything. What I am trying to say is dates don't matter.
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I thought I'd better start over reading Chaol's posts and look what I just found:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Everything truly exists. Like I mention above, When something cannot be fully perceived, it appears infinite.

Our language also enables us to perceive these alternate realities, if we want. One alterate realm is this one.

You exist in multiple realms now, at every moment. You could traverse hundreds of thousands of different possibilities in one day without knowing it.

So most of those bold statements are my understanding (before I met Chaol) of myself as spirit.

Edit: Found a contradiction:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 2)

"The answers" in the universe apply to everyone, not just an infinitesimally small percentage of the population.

We look to scientists for these answers because they're doing things that we don't understand. It is no different than how (in the past) we look to the religious elite for the answers.

But the answers are not found in science or religion or any one particular aspect of the schools and politics that we have created.

The answers are universal and have more to do with consciousness and perception.

I think Chaol believes in universal law.


And this poster asked Chaol how could there not be consciousness....Chaol asked him what consciousness is to him. Here are both their answers:

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 2)

Consciousness to me..hmm that would be my own perception of myself, my awareness of my own being.
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Excellent!

Then the question for you then is, What do you consider your "self"?

If it is your body, then what do you do with a part of your self when you clip your nails or cut your hair? If it is only the 'living' part of your body that you consider your self, where does your self go when you lose a pound?

What is your self when you are dreaming?

"Self" by itself is a bit difficult to pin. Perhaps because the usual basic assumptions about what self is could be expanded.

If it is "awareness of my own being" as you mentioned, then what does it mean to be aware of another being?

Thanks.
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 Quoting: Unit3


The website is meant as an introduction to this particular forum.

The language I use is specific for the intent. For the website, it is to use language and terms that people are more likely to understand.

As we move along in our understanding I will change the language and terms so that new (or as I say, more accurate) understandings come into play.

From the website there is one law (although I would not really call it a law), Ecsys Prime.
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You know, I keep forgetting you have to keep changing the language. Thanks for reminding me once again.

I wish I didn't need the website but I do for now. I still get a lot out of it.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
To understand how you create perception look back at the airplane picture on the ecsys website. Now let's substitute today's events to make things more clear. When you have all of the props (the school, ambulances, police, SWAT team, a story about a shooter) and actors (grieving parents, grieving teachers, news media, other students) you don't actually need any harmed children. That part of the story is like the airplane. You will never see any real evidence that any children were actually harmed, because they were not harmed, it's not necessary because the other relationships tell you it must be real.
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You're real, I'm real, Chaol is real...I bet every poster on this thread would say they are real.
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If you read it is it being written?

Or are you just reading it.
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It's being written while I read it.


Btw, whenever you have a chance, we are waiting for you in the dream thread.

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
[snips]

Do you feel Chaol has complete control of all of his perspectives?
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I'm barely scratching the surface, so to speak.

As I've explained it earlier it would be as if you took a trip to an other planet and explained your world's monetary system.

Some people may be generally fascinated with such a system (should they have only vague concepts of exchanged value in their world) but for me it's just normal. I'm not "an economist" but rather someone quite normal in my world who happens to use "money".

Others may despise the idea (rightfully so).

Instead of calling them dollars maybe you will call them units to suit local tastes. You adopt your explanation to make it a bit easier to understand.

I can explain some things about it and know a little bit about "derivatives" and other instruments but I'm by no means an expert.

Right now we've just gotten off of counting (1, 2, 3...) and the nature of buying and selling (the Genius) and are moving to more advanced topics such as interest (some of what we're getting into on the past couple of pages).

Although I must say we have enough material for the next 50 years. There is so much left to explain :)





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