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Message Subject Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Poster Handle Chaol
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Death, to the few who really subscribe to X in my world, is more of a myth
 Quoting: Chaol

what this myth is about? and what purpose does it serve?
 Quoting: panoukos


There are stories about death and physical change. Like any myth, I suppose the purpose is to tell a story using the most basic of concepts.

Externalizing the desire or want provides us with new perspective. So "wishing" could actually make what we want (or think) more clear.
 Quoting: Chaol

Sure, but as you said:
It may be difficult to define what it is you actually want.
So, if defining a wish precedes the perspective, and if somebody who doesn't (know how to) wish, stays on his "default" perspective, then it makes me wonder, not only how and by whom the First wish was produced, but also what is the actual wish (which has produced my current perspective) that I am seeking to experience?
It couldn't be from "me" (because if I don't know how now, i couldn't know "back then")
Would that be right?
 Quoting: panoukos


Nothing precedes the perspective.

One does not come before the other.

Think of the new perspective as having an effect on all directions (past/present/future).

There is no default perspective. We experience what is most relative to us, all things considered.

The knowledge of knowing how (to wish, or whatever we want to call it) does not dictate the experience. It is experienced regardless of whether or not we think we know what we are doing.

Why would one want to reach a singular perspective?

Then the experience would be nothing.
 Quoting: Chaol

I don't know. My post was simply following you on this:
"It's all your perception. If some of your perceptions are good while others are bad, then it is difficult to see your reality as a single perspective."
Not that my following on you was not false (you didn't reply to it anyway)
 Quoting: panoukos


If the intention is to reach a singular perspective (as a state of being) then the experience would be nothing, as there would be no conflict or drama. There would be nothing to perceive.

However, if the intention is to consider your reality as varying aspects of what you are then it would be difficult to do so if you wanted to attract some values while resisting or rejecting others.

We can consider ourselves as being all things in our perspective without the emptiness of actually being a single perspective.

Apologies for not being more clear about this.

You are as much a singular perspective now as you will ever be. An "expanded perspective" would entail knowing/understanding/experiencing going from bottle to bottle (rather than not knowing) and doing it consciously. As this is simultaneous you may experience what seems like multiple perspectives at once. However this is still one bottle-perspective in the same way you are experiencing that now with all of the perspectives of your physical body.
 Quoting: Chaol

Do you identify "singular perspective", "expanded perspective", "experiencing what seems like multiple perspectives at once" with "the experience would be nothing"? Or have I misread you here? Please clarify

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my posts.
 Quoting: panoukos


By "You are as much a singular perspective now as you will ever be," I mean that the illusion of perspective is an illusion. A singular perspective dictates that nothing is there with which to compare, and thus to know. So we are all ready what we seek, if we are seeking a singular perspective.

We are all ready "nothing" and this "something" is an illusion.
 
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