Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.

Yes. I would suggest starting with the Genius. And then when you've got it moving to Ec. (You would then approach Ec differently and have a new kind of language all ready in its infancy to your waking mind.)

Yes! At the same time, I am using a Genius to become aware that there is no subconscious.

Hi.

Imagine them as collections of "Possibility". You can do with it what you will.

There's nothing negative or positive about them.


There's less interaction in the waking world, so the lag time appears to be longer. So you use the space that you're all ready in differently. (As you're in the dream world all ready. But of course we don't call it that. It's just reality.)

That's about it.



heh. I would suggest that when you see something, see it anew rather than what you think it to be.

In each perception is your entire perspective. But if you look at something and thing, "I've seen that before" then you are in a way implying that you know of its total reality all ready (when actually it is not known).

Look into the things that you think you know all ready and see what you've been missing.

I hope the above bit of advice of somehow useful for you.

Ah! OK, thanks.


Also, you had posted a few days ago that you would be providing narrative. I didn't find the post yet, but I assumed at that time, it meant you would be here on GLP.

Now that I know you will be leaving, when you posted about providing narrative, what was your meaning?

(I volunteer to be in the Dream World as a contact to bring messages back here for you, heh!)

Chaol

I am having trouble understanding the term difference of the square of possibility and possibility in X prime. Can you provide an example to illustrate the term?

Thanks
Nichols

The bleed through today was unmistakable.

Noch

Ohhhh, ok. Thanks.

Hi.

For ease of explanation, we could say that Genius = subconscious, and a model = a reverse-engineer of reality.

We use something very similar to the Genius model to map out our reality. It is how we come to perceive of it. The basic building blocks, if you will.



The Genius is your perspective. It's not something that you have, per se. But something that you are (or seem to be, as I would say).

Perspective = two things coming together and interacting.

two things (Symbol) coming (Logic) together (Possibility) and Interacting.

Perspective = consciousness. Where ever there is interaction there is consciousness. (And all things interact with all other things.)

So if you break down consciousness into its parts you'd see something very similar to a Genius model. (The 4 elements and how they work together is my translation from Ec.)


We could write an entire volume on just the above question.

For this, let's pull out attraction/repulsion (otherwise known as interaction, and perhaps the other side of the gravity of science books someday).

As something 'disappears' it is attracted/repelled. So while it disappears (becomes less relative) it also is rolled into your current perspective.

This is because your perspective is 'composed' of what I call the 4 elements. Your perspective 'uses' these same 4 ingredients over and over again, creating what seems like an endless variety of stuff.

So XISUSI becomes less relative and SOWUEIS becomes more relative. When actually they are the same thing, just interpreted differently.

So the force of repulsion (going away) is the same as the force of attraction (getting close). It needs not exist because it exists as much as it possibly can in your current perspective. But you make two different interpretations (one becoming less relative and one becoming more relative).

So you could ask if your friend John no longer exists when you turn the corner.

Yes, John need not exist in your perspective when you turn the corner because John was never there to begin with.

You have only the values of what you call "John" that came together (via the Genius method), interacted with the other values in your perspective, and then reformulated into something else as the values of "John-PLUS-currentPerspective" became less relevant.

So it wasn't just John that you met. In fact, you had never before met this John because the values that make up John had never before interacted in that particular way. It is the reason why you had an experience. You could say that you have a sense of time because you are going through an infinity of variations. (Apologies, but I am unable to explain this part further in a way that many could grasp.)

If you did not interact with the bottom of his shoe, it did not exist. You saw his right side only in the reflection on the glass? His right side did not exist either. All of these values come into play when you are interacting with them, and not before or after.

It is Ecsys Prime and that we perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive.

The beauty is that you didn't perceive him at all, and you weren't walking. (The illusion is the most efficient conservation method, though no one really likes to think about illusions.)

"You say that nothing exists outside my current perspective and yet that all exists in my current perspective."

It need not exist.

I hope this clarifies it a bit.

Because it is the one that is easiest to experience, all things considered.

No need to worry about missing it.

The experiences on either side are equal, but different of course.

Nothing bad will happen to you if you miss it, and nothing good will happen if you don't.

It's based on your interpretation of your experience, I suppose.

You mean nothing good will happen if we do cross the bridge? That's a typo up above?

Aren't the 2 worlds going to split off into infinity?

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A symbol that is disassembled by someone else is still as valid as the one you had intended. It's just doing its interaction thing ;)

For your intention, try something more of a by-product of what you want rather than exactly what you want. You want to get a new steering wheel for your new car, for example.

So a steering wheel could be more relative to your current perspective than a new car. But the new steering wheel dictates than the respective car be had. So then it becomes more like, "I got your new steering wheel! It was easy because you were stitching one up last week. But unfortunately I had to get this car first because it fits in it. I hope you don't mind."

Not "new car" but if "Driving my New Car off the lot" then how about getting into an accident with your new car? It's a strange thing to intend, but it could work well.

(Of course, the accident could be avoided. You're just using it as a path rather than the final destination. This is what you also may miss when someone messes up your symbol.)

There's nothing wrong with making multiple models for your intention. But I would recommend doing that after you've got a grasp of the basics and changing it when you've come upon a 'rest stop' on your Genius map. That means something happened that manifested your intention (however small) in your perspective. For example, you made a model for your car. Then you received a brochure of the car in the mail. Time to alter your model. (As at each point you have a new perspective.) It need not be a major change. Just something to show that you recognize that you are on the right path.

For your second model I would suggest making it something different. Your Genius all ready knows what you are making relative. (Even thinking about it brings you closer to similar perspectives.) So why not something that you don't think is related? Like going on holiday for 7 days? And then at your 3rd jump you realize that you've got to find a place to put your new car while you're gone.

Don't forget your Logic

Last Edited by Chaol on 01/15/2013 12:31 PM

I believe you're getting it yet +D

The potential of something is drama indeed.

But I was also saying that some things in your perspective come and go. Like in an orbit.

Yes, I got the first part. And, thanks! Heh!

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We shall see :)

I just hope we don't realize the actors in our world but yet be fooled by their meta-acting.

Hi. May I ask where you see the phrase, "square of possibility"?

One can dream, LOL!

Why wouldn't you want us to realize the actors in our world?

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No, not a typo.

Any infinities are your world being born anew.

Yes, there are splits but the splits are in your world.

All a representation, of course.

The splits in our world are a representation?

But, if nothing good happens if we don't cross the bridge, then how can you say the experiences on either side are equal?

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The actors are beginning to be realized (as I mentioned a year ago as a theme for 2012) and the idea that "all the world's a stage" but we must realize the-game-within-the-game.

The actors want you to know they're acting.

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Because in both worlds, good and bad are irrelevant.

It's your interpretation that matters.

(Nothing bad, but also nothing good. Up to you.)

Some way I've missed what all this means. I don't suppose you can direct me to where you mentioned this theme for 2012?

I've only been here a couple of months.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 01/15/2013 12:49 PM

OK. So your work to merge the worlds is just based on your desire for you and your gf?

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Here: Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 74)

It is something that happens anyway. I just increase interactions in order that it happens "sooner" and in a certain way.

Without the interference I suppose it would be an other 30 years. (The second bridge.)

Chaol, could you check this Genius before you go?
Thanks.

The real desired goal is awareness there is no subconscious.

GENIUS MAP

Desired perception: Take a breath and realize the health of my body.

Symbol: A penny with orange marks on it
Space: The driveway of the house where the white dog lives
Interaction: People, cars and weather.
Logic: On Tuesdays, when I take a breath and realize the health of my body, I will raise my eyebrows 3X in a row, real fast. On Wednesdays, when I take a breath and realize a book represents my dream house, I will wiggle my ears 3X very fast. On Thursdays, when I take a breath and realize I am in the Dream World, I will do a Tarzan yell.


Additional interaction: Made-up word, nirwee=awareness there is no subconscious. Will say this word in a sentence every time I walk by and look at the penny. Also, the first time I see Chaol in the Dream World, I will say it.

We have ques. for you in this thread, Chaol.
Thanks




Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": July 18, 2012 - The Return of the Gods (Page 29)

You use that kind of symbol quite often. Have ye an other, m'lady?